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Weighing up 2015 Rugby Wynne Gray

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JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
04 Dec 2014, 23:28
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04 Dec 2014, 23:28#1

A year from now all people will be talking about post Rugby World Cup is the winning nation and how the All Blacks did.

Those two may intersect on October 31 at Twickenham in the first successful defence of the Webb Ellis Cup in which case the fervour will go on as New Zealand hosts civic festivities and the NZRU holds its annual awards.

If it's another nation on the victory march, there will be fallout in New Zealand even though we have convinced ourselves we have grown up in our attitude towards defeat.

The remarkable sequence overseen by Steve Hansen and directed by Richie McCaw in the last three years is lifting expectations even more. Any change to that pattern will provoke inflamed reactions.

Let's not go there though, let's take it on the chin for our often lampooned national figure and believe the Chinese horoscope which says 2015 will be the year of the sheep.

Here's a rundown on the top 10 sides in World Rugby's latest ratings list which will see the tastiest pool play in the tournament coming in Group A with England (4th), Australia (5th) and Wales (6th) alongside Fiji and Uruguay.

All Blacks: The best all-round team, a two-time winner but no offshore titles. In a weak pool with Argentina the only threat before the cut-throat playoffs. Shades of 2007 or the year of the sheep?

Springboks: Cracked the code at Ellis Park with their template of a furious onslaught backed by goal-kicking. Need more depth and Jean de Villiers, Eben Etzebeth, Francois Louw, Fourie Du Preez and others to be fit.

Ireland: Have coach Joe Schmidt to steer the charge, points in the bank if Johnny Sexton holds his nerve and a pack with grit and technique to stay in the scrap.

England: Best pack with more to come when a lengthy injury list clears. The halo hovers over Manu Tuilagi's return to midfield and George Ford is the five-eighth messiah for now - after Farrell, Cipriani, Burns and Any Other.

Wallabies: Israel Folau is a golden glow from the back but the Wallabies have to find some hammer in the scrum otherwise they will reverse out of the tournament. Quade Cooper, James O'Connor, Kurtley Beale are being hyped - too bad they can't scrum.

Wales: Beaten semifinalists last time, threat when Sam Warburton, Jamie Roberts, George North and Rhys Webb hit their marks backed by Leigh Halfpenny's radar. Defence is tight, coach Gatland is a wily campaigner.

France: Will be the smartest dressed squad which can cover some messy attitudes. Pool play will not faze them with Ireland, Italy, Canada and Romania. Hard to see them beating three runner-up finishes.

Scotland: A resurgence is beckoning or so the theory goes after a couple of resolute productions in November. Face a struggle to get out of their pool if Samoa turns up while Japan will be prickly.

Argentina: Should qualify for the playoffs and have the experience of Four Nations footy to prepare them for that task. Have found a strong five eighth, Nicolas Sanchez, to support a hardworking pack.

Samoa: When they made their tournament debut in '91, they dusted Wales, Argentina and gave the Wallabies a hard time. If they get their administration sorted and reinforce their roster they may bring some dangerous form.

NZ Herald

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
04 Dec 2014, 23:43
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04 Dec 2014, 23:43#2
 England best pack - yeah right
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Dec 2014, 10:57
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06 Dec 2014, 10:57#3
 Sorry to say but their pack is at least as good as the one we had on tour.
Snapster this is not England at full strength. We need to be realistic here. Play matfiled and oupa and we are toast. 
We need some guys back in the mix.
England WILL be stronger come RWC time and we need to get our house in order or LOSE. The delusional kbbs think all is well but are in for a rude awakening. Oh how they will lamen t and say as one - if only we had listened to Beeno!
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
06 Dec 2014, 11:41
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06 Dec 2014, 11:41#4
 Beeno: those who predict disaster are almost always wrong but when disaster finally happens they are the first to declare : "I told ya".
"The world is turning to crap!"
It looks like he has found the evidence
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Dec 2014, 11:49
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06 Dec 2014, 11:49#5
 JW I am not predicting disaster I am predicting success for England is current trends continue! It all depends which way you look at things.I make no prediction right now about the Boks. Who knows what Meyer will do - he lost the plot this year.OZ simply have to shore up their scrum to have a chance. Only the Boks pack can if correctly selected get the better of the English pack. The wee abs dont have that sort of power! I really dont think they will get a RAWs RWC again this time round! 
JW
Just_winCaptain18,570 posts
06 Dec 2014, 11:57
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06 Dec 2014, 11:57#6
 Beeno: ABs have some big boys ready to deal out some tough tight five rugby but this is not our main emphasis. 
Poms are probably going to rely on traditional forward dominance & occasional sharp play in the backs.
Boks are still trying to find themselves. A few weaknesses in the pack; weaknesses at 9 12 13 in the backs.  They have a lot of work to do to get that straightened out.
 ABs are more diversified but we will see how it goes. We have the best overall team but no one knows what will happen in the RWC.  It is a tournament which is like the wheel of fortune, there are too many variables to predict the outcome. I would be happy of the ABs weren't the favorites for a change but given that we have beaten everyone that's not likely .
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