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Welsh B side to take on the Boks

Started by Saffolk 34 REPLIES921 VIEWS· 16 Aug 2023, 17:09
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SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Aug 2023, 17:09
#1
16 Aug 2023, 17:09#1
These are always hard games to navigate - Boks have everything to lose, Welsh zero to lose but then again we can’t read too much into these warm up games as none of the players will be going flat out in fear of injury
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
16 Aug 2023, 17:39
#2
16 Aug 2023, 17:39#2

It's really just a waste of time. None of these games have been used purposefully. Unless Erasputin has been bluffing hard, and the Boks rock up at the WC with a total overhaul in gameplan and starting xv, he's done utterly nothing. Wales on the otherhand will benefit more from the reps. 

KI
kingcornPro3,695 posts
16 Aug 2023, 17:50
#3
16 Aug 2023, 17:50#3

So far the boks are 4/5. But a lost by such a big margin is hard to swallow. 

Then, the boks should never experiment and should always aim to win the game, especially against this Welsh side. 

Just hope they don't get sucked into Warren ball. We have the personel out wide and should put the Welsh away comfortable 

DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
16 Aug 2023, 19:01
#4
16 Aug 2023, 19:01#4

We have a big glass jaw, and a very soft underbelly. We are not so good that a team like Wales cannot win. It doesn't depend on how good we are, we are there for the taking. It depends on if Wales are man enough to go hunting. A soft passive test pads the Bok calendar. 

BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 Aug 2023, 20:56
#5
16 Aug 2023, 20:56#5

Dripping Contempt for the Boks by Deus. He can't disguise it. Glass jaw, soft underbelly. 

Go and join Rooitwit and support the Welsh. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
16 Aug 2023, 23:07
#6
16 Aug 2023, 23:07#6
Beeno Doos is the most negative boring and ignorant prick that has ever graced this board A fucking parasite
BE
Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Aug 2023, 07:33
#7
17 Aug 2023, 07:33#7

It is strange about Deus. Briuant political comments, very odd rugby comments. 

DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
17 Aug 2023, 09:04
#8
17 Aug 2023, 09:04#8

Odd? Everything verifiable in game film. Thus far, this season, as always, the karp only drown themselves in egg when they have challenged me. Saddex's one big attempt, first ever, was a colossal disaster. 

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
17 Aug 2023, 09:48
#9
17 Aug 2023, 09:48#9
"It's really just a waste of time. None of these games have been used purposefully. Unless Erasputin has been bluffing hard, and the Boks rock up at the WC with a total overhaul in gameplan and starting xv, he's done utterly nothing. Wales on the otherhand will benefit more from the reps." I'm not so sure. In a recent interview, Nienaaber said the following...paraphrasing... "We know it's been very tough on the guys to have a different team each week. But we now have about 3 games heading into the WC during which to build combinations." I mean, 3 games? It doesn't inspire me with confidence. Heading into the RC we should have known what our best team would be for WC and we should have been refining those combinations all of this year already. I mean, that is what everybody else is doing. You don't see the kiwis still wondering about their squad...or changing their team very much this year. Why do we have to? And the omission of Jantjies, in my view, is a clanger of decision. Probably the biggest mistake I can think of.
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
17 Aug 2023, 09:52
#10
17 Aug 2023, 09:52#10
Faf...Elton...AE...Willemse Tell me that isn't our best combination.

DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
17 Aug 2023, 12:06
#11
17 Aug 2023, 12:06#11

Faf used to be a disruptor, but now he is just a podgy poor man's Januarie. He can't kick, can't pass. His only asset was pressure. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Aug 2023, 16:53
#12
17 Aug 2023, 16:53#12
YAWN
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
17 Aug 2023, 17:32
#13
17 Aug 2023, 17:32#13

Why don't you review the wonky kicks of Faf in the 2019 WC Saddex, It would prove enlightening, had you eyes to see. Almost as enlightening as your lesson on Mostert and the final goal-line stand. 

BE
becsPro4,378 posts
17 Aug 2023, 17:37
#14
17 Aug 2023, 17:37#14

Biggar and Liam Williams are out of the match on Saturday. 

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
17 Aug 2023, 18:30
#15
17 Aug 2023, 18:30#15
Apparently Biggar has a Back irritation and Williams a tight hamstring….precaution for WC.
MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
17 Aug 2023, 18:34
#16
17 Aug 2023, 18:34#16
Deus Faf might be having a drop in form, but not a guy you would leave behind….he is improving.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Aug 2023, 18:39
#17
17 Aug 2023, 18:39#17
Faf was great in his last game - Doos speaks shit every time he opens his ignorant mug
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
17 Aug 2023, 18:49
#18
17 Aug 2023, 18:49#18

Mpower, Faf is not good. You can have a guy like Faf, playing like he did in 2016 to 2018, but only if you have a Du Preez for when you need a real 9.

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
17 Aug 2023, 19:05
#19
17 Aug 2023, 19:05#19
Nah I feel faf is a excellent scrum half…there is also enough video footage ( not from years ago) that show his worth…he is still a disrupter, although his Kicking game can be a bit inconsistent, it’s still of a high standard, Aggressive defender, amazing runner with ball in hand, great service from behind the scrums….just because he has lost a bit of form, you can’t just discard the guy or say he is useless….to many variables to consider.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Aug 2023, 19:15
#20
17 Aug 2023, 19:15#20
Faf is a great 9, was the best 9 in the game in 2019
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
17 Aug 2023, 19:30
#21
17 Aug 2023, 19:30#21

Faf has never ever been a top 10 9 at any point in his lifetime, and he never will be. His distribution is always sloppy. He has a very short range, he even struggles with passes a few metres away. His kicking has always been poor. We saw it throughout 2018 to 2019. All the way through the World Cup. Faf's only positive was an ability to pressure the opposition. He doesn't do that anymore. He has been quite emphatically outplayed from 2021 to 2023. In fact, the way we saw New Zealand's 9s control the game against us, especially the second half, was quite depressing. We don't have a world class 9 on that level. However, we have several options better than Faf. Faf and Libbok are worse than Lambie and Reinach on the 2014 EOYT. That's saying something. If this is the route Erasputin wants to go, he is in for a rude awakening. I'd rank this duo as the worst ever halfback pairing for the Boks. I can't think of anything less skilled or dynamic, or capable on even a rudimentary level. It's awful. The net result is awful rugby. 

MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
17 Aug 2023, 19:44
#22
17 Aug 2023, 19:44#22
Well not so very long ago the Two combined quite nicely, resulting in a try for Libbok….but yes they have not been playing together for long, so naturally there will be miss haps….our whole approach is a bit up side down this time around, but so is other teams also with losing important players…we must just adapt as best we can….Let’s hope Rassie has got some secret plan with all of these unexplained and bizarre decisions that happened….Is there a Method in the Madness ?
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Aug 2023, 19:48
#23
17 Aug 2023, 19:48#23
Mpower don’t bother responding to that ignorant prick His pathetic negativity about virtually every SA player is nauseating and so far from the truth I’m done with the twat - utter waste of time responding to the twat
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
17 Aug 2023, 20:08
#24
17 Aug 2023, 20:08#24

Spoken like a true neo-lib. I can't hold my own in a debate, so I'll just push my fingers into my ears and scream the offence away until I turn purple. Saddex, you've been effortlessly dismantled. Spare us the yawns, if you're truly done, then just be silent. If I don't want to acknowledge something, I don't need to go looking for attention like a little toddler in announcing how much I don't care, I simply don't say anything. If only your owners raised you properly. 

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
17 Aug 2023, 20:12
#25
17 Aug 2023, 20:12#25
How on earth has Faf never been in the top 10? Deus, I'm not sure what you want the players and coaches to do. Should they all just go home and forget about rugby?
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Aug 2023, 20:22
#26
17 Aug 2023, 20:22#26
Plum you seem surprised It’s fucking Doos Remember this clown had us believe that when PSDT won world player of the year that in Doos’s world he was ranked 19th, so in effect behind the Sri Lankan blindside at the time
MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
17 Aug 2023, 20:31
#27
17 Aug 2023, 20:31#27
Faf is definitely top 10…Rugby is a fast paced and Highly Skilled Brutal Sport….that is why we love it so much : ) Because the game is this way, it is very very difficult to keep that level of consistency under the immense pressure….Faf just like Fourie, are Die Hard guys with skill…Fourie was a more consistent performer, but had lapses to….So faf is definitely a guy you want on your side just like Mostert…Video Footage don’t lie : )
DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
17 Aug 2023, 20:32
#28
17 Aug 2023, 20:32#28

PTSD was ranked 19th for production. That's not an opinion, that's an unbiased fact on the basis of what he did. 

As per what I want from the players? I want a 9 who can pass reliably and with range. I want a 9 who can kick accurately. We don't play off if 10, therefore it's imperative that our 9s have fundamental skills. We don't need runners, we need fundamentals. We have too many runners who cannot execute basic skills. I don't think I'm reaching for the stars here. 

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Aug 2023, 20:46
#29
17 Aug 2023, 20:46#29
YAWN
MP
MpowerPro5,061 posts
17 Aug 2023, 20:55
#30
17 Aug 2023, 20:55#30
Hendrikse and Williams is the guys coming thru… there basics skills is fairly good but not better than Faf,s…Reinach has the same amount of Basic skills …Are you suggesting that they are all inadequate?
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Aug 2023, 21:14
#31
17 Aug 2023, 21:14#31
No Mpower all our 9’s are useless all our players are useless except Kwagga who is by far our most valuable player despite effectively never starting a game But he is that special that he is able to influence the game while warming the bench or sitting in the stands as he will be doing on Saturday
PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
18 Aug 2023, 10:37
#32
18 Aug 2023, 10:37#32

A 9 that can pass far and fast is nice.

But it's not as beneficial as having a 9 that passes close to the level of the best passer and adds more value in other facets.

Let's also remember the perfect WC final that Faf played. A consummate, dogged, and inspiring professional.

Faf's highlight reel!!!???? I challenge anyone to provide a highlight reel as downright badass as Faf's.

Not in the top ten but guided SA to a WC and Lions win? 

Very difficult to agree with.



DE
Deus Ex LemurPro2,355 posts
18 Aug 2023, 12:17
#33
18 Aug 2023, 12:17#33

But it's not as beneficial as having a 9 that passes close to the level of the best passer and adds more value in other facets.

I can make a highlight real three times longer of him missing passes. Easy passes. He doesn't add much value elsewhere. Likes to get penalties now. Or yellows cards. He has ventured onto petulance now. Faf is a 4/10 scrumhalf. 

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
18 Aug 2023, 14:08
#34
18 Aug 2023, 14:08#34

I have watched a lot of Faf and for some reason, I don't recall all those missed passes.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
18 Aug 2023, 14:11
#35
18 Aug 2023, 14:11#35
Faf is a class act one of the best 9’s in the game We are blessed with so many good 9’s right now but Faf is still our best
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