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What can one say about the Hapless Stormers?

Started by clevermike16 REPLIES427 VIEWS· 02 May 2015, 22:01
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
02 May 2015, 22:01
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02 May 2015, 22:01#1

The only logical thing to say is they deserved to lose.   There are various reasons why that can be said, but I would just confine it to the clearly obvious issues:-


*   A team who has a bench flyhalf that failed with four penalty kicks at goal - some real sitters - needs to lose.  How they can persist with Coleman - who is not better than a Vodacom Cup player and when he came on the Stormers were doomed.


*   When Springboks in the team lose ball possession repeatedly - at least one of which led to a Cheetahs try - the players should be identified and dealt with Harshly.  The Chief problems in the team centers around Kolisi and Burger - the latter buggered up at least three times in that regard.  That being said the ball handling of most of the players was at times atrocious.   


*   Their line outs went pear-shaped because neither of their hookers have a clue how to make accurate throw-ins.  In a number of cases the balls went straight over the line outs because of inaccuracy.


*   There defense was putrid and for players to throw their hands in the air when they missed tackles are serious jokes.   


*   Aimless kicks give opponents the opportunity to run at the team and the defence was not up to standard.  The kicking game of the Stormers were putrid - the joke is when loosies try and take over the kicking role.


*   Other than Vermeulen the other loosies do not know how to play at breakdowns - how to protect balls at breakdowns and how to effect turnovers.


 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 May 2015, 22:22
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02 May 2015, 22:22#2
 Ou maaaikie that we would have to say first is that they are 1000 times less hapless than the frot guppies.I agree re the throwing in of bongi. scurra was much better.
leyds is not up to much in my book and we need Rhodes back and Kolisi out.
What should habve been a comfortable win became a loss through bad luck and some crucial mistakes. It happens.
What is noticeable is that the Lions, Cheetas and now also the Bulle have moved well ahead of us in attacking skills.
I would rate the teams as follows in terms of all round skills.:LionsCheetasBulle StormersSharks.
The Stormers and Sharks are the last two SA franchises to embrace a balanced game plan. The Stormers have shown some improvement but are still well behind the other three.
Burger had a good game so no knocking the legend please ou maaaikie. Hasnt Burger embarassed you quite enough since his return!!








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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 May 2015, 22:29
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02 May 2015, 22:29#3
 Burger's cover defence was awesome...and he is the best handling loosie in SA by miles. Our weaknesses are obvious....both wings, particularly Kotze, Coleman and the useless Schreuder whose non appearance at the base is only rivalled by Reinach.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
02 May 2015, 22:35
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02 May 2015, 22:35#4
 Faf De Klerk is our scrummie. Lightening quick in getting his line away and very dangerous.
Whitely Kriel and Tecklenberg continue to impress.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
02 May 2015, 23:11
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02 May 2015, 23:11#5
I agree, he gets the ball on its way like lightning and he is an old style breaking scrummie....a joy to watch.  
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JeromeVClub Pro492 posts
03 May 2015, 00:39
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03 May 2015, 00:39#6
 The better team on the day won. The Cheetah's are not a team that can be taken lightly considering the way they played in the past. They can be unpredictable with ball in hand, Joe Pietersen really knows much about the Stormers system because he's played in the Stormers for a few years, i thought he controlled the game nicely. Another former WP player Michael Van der spauy, he done the hard yards and really stepped up in this match for the Cheetah's, good on him.

I noticed a lot problems in attack, Handling errors lost alot of momentum for us which is nothing new, when there's too many clumsy players that is always going to be expected. I wouldn't be too critical of the team though, there was a few positive signs in the tight five and between the backs but it wasn't enough to bounce back because the way the team is setup.

Allister Coetzee is not willing think outside the box which is an issue, he needs to experiment with the players more. Notshe and Pat Howard should get more game time, they are too talented to leave out.

-  Johnny Kotze is too slow on the wing who is not exciting to watch, they need a winger with more pace with a decent sidestep, EW Viljoen is an option that they need to look at. 

- Jean Kleyn has nothing to offer as a lock, he's done nothing much in the past as well. It's a typical example of why there's not enough variety between the forwards, Coetzee needs to get rid of him as well. 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 May 2015, 01:44
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03 May 2015, 01:44#7
 There is a huge difference in intelligent comments made on the match today.   The resident village idiot refused to admit that on the day players lost ball possession and went bananas with a generalized defence - not based on what actually happened today. 
Beeno saw what happened and came up with some really constructive and factual comments.   Jerome did extremely well in his comments as well.   
How can one ever discuss anything on rugby issues with a person that cannot understand what happened in matches and then went on the rampage about other players to divert attention away from the factual situation?          
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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
03 May 2015, 01:52
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03 May 2015, 01:52#8
Hapless indeed .
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 May 2015, 01:55
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03 May 2015, 01:55#9
Look you corny old Ballito reject, the day you understand what I am saying is the day I know I have become too obvious. I guess you missed Burger's masterful commitment of the defence and offload for a try.
Meanwhile you loooove Coetzee charging head first into the first defender and killing the movement. 
Stupid is too kind.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 May 2015, 02:31
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03 May 2015, 02:31#10
 BS as per normal - the idiot at work again.  What the hell has Coetzee to do with the fact that Burger lost ball possession twice?  Matter of fact the idiot brought in Coetzee to divert attention away from the real situation in this case.  
I saw and understood the roll played by Burger in his pass that lead to the try of Leyds. However, the way Burger lost ball possession is not acceptable and he did it twice.  
The day anybody can discuss rugby issues on this site with our local village idiot - is in the distant future.   Rugby intelligence on his part is totally absent and consist of personal attacks and diversions brought in with no bearing on the game in question.
The simple question is - did Burger lose ball possession twice, yes or no?   The simpleton cannot understand that basic question.         
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 May 2015, 02:39
#11
03 May 2015, 02:39#11
The " roll played by Burger".....hahaha.....what "roll" was that Moronic? 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 May 2015, 03:10
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03 May 2015, 03:10#12
I referred to his roll in the try scored by Leyds.  Burger's carrying of the ball and pass were very effective in that case.  Do you understand English or are you too dim to understand what was written.   
I asked clearly - did Burger lost ball possession twice?   The other case was did he try to kick balls twice - the one rolling over the dead ball line - leading to a scrum in Stormers territory - the other one just as ineffective?
Hell did you missed those four mistakes on Burger's part - Village idiot?    
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 May 2015, 03:16
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03 May 2015, 03:16#13

Bwaaaaahahhahaha...the penny remains stuck.  Here's a hint was it a white cheese bread roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

...or was it your flour covered soft roll?

 

 

 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 May 2015, 03:43
#14
03 May 2015, 03:43#14
 Answe r the pertinent questions Dofdoos - you stupid cur.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 May 2015, 04:39
#15
03 May 2015, 04:39#15
The pertinent ones.....okay let's see.......hmmm. Nope all I see is a fool who still doesn't get his role on the Board.  
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 May 2015, 05:35
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03 May 2015, 05:35#16
 I used the wrong word and suddenly that is the main issue - because our piss-poor thinker refuses to answer questions on rugby.  I rest my case.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
03 May 2015, 06:00
#17
03 May 2015, 06:00#17

Well lets get two birds with one stone.....here's your egg roll

 

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