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Whatching the games involving the Bulls and Sharks this morning

Started by clevermike19 REPLIES468 VIEWS· 29 Apr 2016, 15:59
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Apr 2016, 15:59
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29 Apr 2016, 15:59#1
I again came to conclusion that 
*   replacing Ludeke had a massive positive iro the game played by the Bulls players and the fact that they do not just kick away balls anymore - like was a constant in their case; and
*   the Sharks has done better than expected by playing a mor comprehensive game themselves. 
The loss of the Sharks can be blamed on two liabilities in their team - namely Esterhuizen and Coenie Oosthuizen - but there are real signs on performance improvement - for which Du Preez as backline coach must receive praise.   
Mozart went ballistic when other people agreed there are signs of improvement of our Super Rugby teams - but that is entirely due to his jeremiads about the fact that his forecast of a serious decline in SA Rugby  because of the departure of the short-sighted coaches and experienced players would have ghastly consequences.  So far it was the contrary to what he predicted and the present scenario shows the damage done by dolt coaches like Meyer, Ludeke and Coetzee did to rugby in SA.  Mozart must be in mourning.
         
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
29 Apr 2016, 18:00
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29 Apr 2016, 18:00#2
 Things looking better all round ou maaaikie and Bulle improving markedly.It also great to preport that Tru*mp will be the GOP presedential candiate an ou maaaaikie will have to suck the lemon under a mountain of egg! Ha hahahahahahahaha
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Apr 2016, 18:57
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29 Apr 2016, 18:57#3
Nope. The Sharks played exactly the game I have advocated. Were  it not for April missing a few and kicking a few directly into touch in an otherwise encouraging appearance....the woeful hands of the du Preez twins....the hands and  defence of  Esterhozen.......they could and should have won that game. That said the Chiefs made similar mistakes showing lack of intensity.

The Bools ran over a woeful Force team. There is very little one can reliably take from that game Step, Snyman and Lieberstein any time ...looked good. But how can we know, they were playing against palookas. The Bools backline still crabs across the field when defended...they got their go forward because of Kleenex tackling. Play a team that makes its tackles and I fear we will be back to normal service.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Apr 2016, 20:03
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29 Apr 2016, 20:03#4
 The Sharks did not produce the rubbish you advocated.  The ball was indeed carried by the backline players - which never happened when White was around - it always ended with Steyn - who routinely kicked balls away aimlessly.   
There is a huge difference between the games the two played compared to the junk produced under the previous coaches.  However, you specialize in crap suppositions and prefer to make forecasts as if you are an authority on issues,  Let me dearly remind you that the Crusaders played that same team and won by 1 point - as far as I can remember.  
The crap follows when you have been proven wrong - like you always are.    
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
29 Apr 2016, 21:12
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29 Apr 2016, 21:12#5
Every time I see an SA forward player offload to set up a try I'm reminded of Meyer's "We don't have the skills to play that way." Kinda sums up how clueless that guy really was. RG Snyman. My gf is a Bulls supporter and I think she has crush. He is ugly.as.all hell, so I guess it must be his play that she likes. Gotta say, I'm sold thus far. Future Bok for my money. Helps us put our views on Lood and PSD into perspective. He's looking our best lock this year. Stole some balls today too. Seems it is possible for a lock to shine outside of a kick dominated game plan. Read an article earlier where Richie McCaw said that P Divvy's Boks were the best team he's ever faced. Unrelated, but interesting nonetheless.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Apr 2016, 22:45
#6
29 Apr 2016, 22:45#6
I agree Plum Snyman is playing better than Lomp or Stephanie at the moment....and contributing as much as Mostert with a touch more physicality. etzebeth towers over them all though.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Apr 2016, 23:03
#7
29 Apr 2016, 23:03#7
 Nothing new from our ret ard.    Du Toit is doing very well also and that is a fact our local fool will never admit.      
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
29 Apr 2016, 23:05
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29 Apr 2016, 23:05#8
 PSDT is doing quite well for WP...better than I dared to hope for. He and Eben was the best pair up till Eben's injury.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Apr 2016, 23:16
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29 Apr 2016, 23:16#9
Stephanie has been functional, not dominant. But better than Lomp who has been ineffective, slow and vulnerable at the lineout.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Apr 2016, 23:42
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29 Apr 2016, 23:42#10
 Look fool - when are you come up with something positive about players for a change.  Du Toirt is at present the highest rated lock in Super Rugby in the absence of Etzebeth,
I would rather judge a player on actual performance - not prejudice.    
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Apr 2016, 23:52
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29 Apr 2016, 23:52#11
I'm a fool when I come up with something positive for a change? You talk funny. Tok tell us about your university degree....oops you don't have one? Hmmm I have 3 and you have the temerity to call me a fool....hahaha.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Apr 2016, 00:03
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30 Apr 2016, 00:03#12
What the hell has my personal issues got to do with a discussion on rugby issues,  It has zero to do with you what my qualifications are and I am not going to discuss it on this site.  
From a rugby perspective you are indeed a fool.  Your idea of the players are so badly out of date and prejudicial that nobody can really believe your repetitive drivel.       
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
30 Apr 2016, 00:21
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30 Apr 2016, 00:21#13
 "What the hell has my personal issues................".

You have personal issues? So, at last, that is that confirmed then.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,272 posts
30 Apr 2016, 00:25
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30 Apr 2016, 00:25#14
 
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
30 Apr 2016, 00:46
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30 Apr 2016, 00:46#15
 "...my personal issues.."
Fire away , I'm here to assist.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Apr 2016, 00:55
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30 Apr 2016, 00:55#16
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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,272 posts
30 Apr 2016, 01:05
#17
30 Apr 2016, 01:05#17
The Bulls looked good today. The Australian conference remains the weakest. 
There is no standout Australian team at the moment- so whoever wins their table is probably going to lose lots of local derbies and get a poor seeding into the finals  
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Apr 2016, 01:26
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30 Apr 2016, 01:26#18
 The Force were shockingly bad. That first try from the kick ahead, there was no defence at  all, never mind a defensive wall. How can a team playing in Super Rugby be that bad? I have seen few Aussie games this year but what I have seen looks like a big dip from prior years.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
30 Apr 2016, 09:07
#19
30 Apr 2016, 09:07#19
 And all the stories about the talk of teams being shockingly bad after not seeing the matches.    This is amazing - the moron talks about players and teams where he has not seen the matches. 
But then his forecast about how poor the SA teams will be without the useless lot who were in the WC last year.  Even where the SA teams lost it was normally by small margins - not by the disgustingly poor shows of for instance the Stormers in the play-off last year.  
The Bulls this year are twice the team without the useless Matfield and the Sharks without the Du Plessis, Fat Fransie and the donkey Alberts.           
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
30 Apr 2016, 09:33
#20
30 Apr 2016, 09:33#20
PSDT has been excellent for the Stormers, functional my arse.
Esterhuizen s defence was fantastic....one miss does not define him.
The du Preez twins hands had nothing to do with the loss....their carries with ball in hand far out weighed the odd ball being bashed out of their hands.
The twins are great


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