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Willemse struggling at 12

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Jan 2026, 21:48
#41
08 Jan 2026, 21:48#41

"Never mind HasBeen I comprehend exactly what you are saying, you see Julius as the new Gerber. You also see Pead succeeding at the Sharks, even though he is playing for the Lions."


Another deliberate lie...either that or your reading comprehension is shot...

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Jan 2026, 22:12
#42
08 Jan 2026, 22:12#42

What’s the deliberate lie and what was the other lie.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
08 Jan 2026, 22:17
#43
08 Jan 2026, 22:17#43

DW is a brilliant fullback and flyhalf . . . but an even better #12. If you need proof of that, just search for the video of the Springboks biggest ever victory against the All Blacks . . . and watch it.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Jan 2026, 22:20
#44
08 Jan 2026, 22:20#44


"What’s the deliberate lie and what was the other lie."


Beenz: "JJ reminds me somewhat of Daniel Gerber.

Great swerve and change of direction. Good acceleration and certainly doesn't look slow!


You:

  1. Yes JJ is just like Danie Gerber….hahaha
  2. ...you see Julius as the new Gerber.


Either your comprehension is shot or you are deliberately twisting the facts...lying...take your pick.



SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Jan 2026, 22:20
#45
08 Jan 2026, 22:20#45

Spot on Rooi - pretty obvious to most of us but clearly beyond a few on here

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
08 Jan 2026, 22:21
#46
08 Jan 2026, 22:21#46

"What’s the deliberate lie and what was the other lie."


Moffie, I don't there's a single poster childish enough to play one of your stupid little "he said no I said no he said" games. Maybe a Servile Gimp will try and help you out here but I'd be surprised if one of them even tried. Just score yourself the point and tell us what it us now . . . 32-0 I think?


LMAO!


We all know you're a liar, just as we all know you're a lifeless loser. Deal with it and try to move on.


Oh and grow up. A 78 year old man acting like an 8 year old is pretty sad for the rest of us to witness.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Jan 2026, 22:31
#47
08 Jan 2026, 22:31#47

Well I guess it doesn’t translate to you in rock.


JJ reminds HasBeen somewhat of Gerber….and he then strengthens that claim by citing 3 Gerber attributes….swerve, change in direction and pace.


I come back with sure JJ is just like Danie Gerber…..meaning he isn’t at all like Danie Gerber,


Where’s the lie.


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Jan 2026, 22:33
#48
08 Jan 2026, 22:33#48

"Well I guess it doesn’t translate to you in rock."


Try pulling your head from your own arse for a change...and stop being disingenuous...

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Jan 2026, 22:33
#49
08 Jan 2026, 22:33#49

Actually Vaccine quite vigorous at 78 and not a loser….former lead director of 2 Fortune 100 companies and CEO of 3 Fortune 500 companies. Tell us again if you are not too embarrassed, what were you?

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Jan 2026, 22:43
#50
08 Jan 2026, 22:43#50

No where is the lie HasBeen is saying he sees many of Gerbers attributes and I respond he is just like Gerber….meaning I don’t see it. Where’s the lie.


You throw that word around as if it has no weight ….prove it.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Jan 2026, 22:44
#51
08 Jan 2026, 22:44#51

Nice edit but tell us where’s the lie….explain it. Tell you what, I’m off to play 9 holes….think about it and explain the lie.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
08 Jan 2026, 22:55
#52
08 Jan 2026, 22:55#52

Whoosh! I don’t have time to waste on such nonsense...go ahead and go mindfck yourself into a victory...I hope you are more honest with your golf scorecard.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
08 Jan 2026, 23:48
#53
08 Jan 2026, 23:48#53

"I hope you are more honest with your golf scorecard."


LMAO!


Yeah right!


Can you picture Moffie on the golf course? It would go something like this . . . the fourball is walking off the green and the scorer is writing in the scores . . .


Scorer: "Okay, so that's a bogey for me, a double bogey for Jim and a par for Sam. How about you, Moffie, should I just give you a ring?"


Moffie: (sputtering) "A ring? Try again, son, I shot a 5 on that hole."


Scorer (incredulous) " A 5? You were in the rough off the tee. I saw you play at least two shots in the rough . . . then you topped it over the green, duffed the return chip and three-putted. How in the name of all that is holy did you score a 5?"


Moffie (red-faced) "Liar! I can integrate x squared and I ran 3 Fortune 500 companies! My education was better than yours, my house is bigger than yours and my car is faster than yours. It was a 5 . . . or maybe even a par 4. Wait, it was 4, not 5."


Scorer: "Oh for Pete's sake . . . a 4??? And how come you're using a Titleist ball now when you teed off with a Callaway"?"

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jan 2026, 02:17
#54
09 Jan 2026, 02:17#54

So Vaccine too much of a coward to tell us about your great accomplishments in life? I wait to hear your superior record….You are so quick to call others losers. I can’t wait to hear what a winner has done.





MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jan 2026, 02:26
#55
09 Jan 2026, 02:26#55

As for you Draad you happily call another poster a liar and then shame….your time is too precious to prove your point. Hasbeen basically said Julius has a lot of Gerber’s attributes and my response simply denied that in a completely standard way. No lie. No reason for the attack out of the blue and now the pathetic self pitying truculence.



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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Jan 2026, 06:51
#56
09 Jan 2026, 06:51#56

I did explain, you are just trying to twist out of your misrepresentation of the facts...I'm not going to spell it out for you.

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
09 Jan 2026, 07:01
#57
09 Jan 2026, 07:01#57

Love reading these threads during my morning gym.


I wish I was like you, Rooi...and could gather up so much hatred and focus it. Could really use that sort of motivation as I test my limits in the early morning hours.


Alas, I'm just not like that.


Give me single hit on my THC vape, a podcast about some obscure topic and that's all I need to fight my way through my routine.


I hope that all you knuckleheads are keeping fit too.



MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jan 2026, 17:08
#58
09 Jan 2026, 17:08#58

You explained nothing Draad and you don’t have the guts to admit you lost the plot. But I’m pretty sure you’ll think twice next time before carelessly calling another poster a liar. Straighten up and fly right.

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
09 Jan 2026, 18:47
#59
09 Jan 2026, 18:47#59

We all know Damian Willemse is a good rugby player. That is obvious.


The real argument is about his best position. Under Rassie, Willemse has mainly been used at fullback, with him occasionally playing at 12 or Flyhalf.


That is not by accident.


Yes, his performance at 12 in the Wellington game, was good. What is conveniently left out is that the game really opened up once he moved back to fullback and AE came on at 12.


From fullback he has more space, more time, and a better view of the field. He identifies space well, links into the line at the right moments, and his cover defence is outstanding.

There is also a contradiction here. If Willemse is such a brilliant long term 12, why has he not replaced de Allende after all these seasons??


Saying it is because de Allende is so good undermines the claim that Willemse is clearly better at 12. You cannot argue both at the same time.


Either Willemse is a specialist 12 who should have taken that jersey already, or he is a world-class fullback who can cover 12 when needed.


Rassie’s selections up till now, clearly point to the second option.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Jan 2026, 19:00
#60
09 Jan 2026, 19:00#60

In fact Willemse’s career was in jeopardy after he had essentially failed at 10….it was resurrected by the move to 15.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Jan 2026, 00:08
#61
10 Jan 2026, 00:08#61

"You explained nothing Draad and you don’t have the guts to admit you lost the plot. But I’m pretty sure you’ll think twice next time before carelessly calling another poster a liar. Straighten up and fly right."


Nah, it wasn't careless...words have meaning...BTW, how was the golf?


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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
10 Jan 2026, 01:35
#62
10 Jan 2026, 01:35#62

Mpower I’ll give you a little clue why Willemse has been mostly employed at 15 for the Boks……de Allende


Glad to be of service pointing out the blatantly obvious

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Jan 2026, 01:48
#63
10 Jan 2026, 01:48#63

Great….,I cheated.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Jan 2026, 09:05
#64
10 Jan 2026, 09:05#64

"Great….,I cheated."


That was uncalled for from me. I apologize for that and I concede that the lie was probably more mocking sarcasm than an attempt at an outright lie.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
10 Jan 2026, 15:07
#65
10 Jan 2026, 15:07#65

Well played Draad…we’re good.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Jan 2026, 15:30
#66
10 Jan 2026, 15:30#66

We are all to eager put the liar tag on someone.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Jan 2026, 15:30
#67
10 Jan 2026, 15:30#67

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