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World Rugby agree with points made in Rassie Erasmus’ video - report

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Oct 2021, 12:10
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25 Oct 2021, 12:10#1

Durban - It appears that behind the scenes, World Rugby agree with most of the points made by Rassie Erasmus in his famous video assassination of Aussie referee Nic Berry during the series against the Lions, and it is further understood that the video was leaked into social media from Australia, and not by Erasmus.

These claims were made by a South African Sunday newspaper known to have close links to Erasmus, SA Rugby’s Director.

Erasmus and SA Rugby were charged with bringing the game into disrepute and the hearing for the two parties is to take place on October 30 and 31.

Rapport newspaper claims that World Rugby concurs with Erasmus on 23 of the 26 errors he highlighted in Berry’s officiating of the first Test, which the Springboks lost.

Erasmus has always maintained that he did not leak the video to the public and that it was only meant for the eyes of SA Rugby CEO Jurie Roux, the Bok coaching staff, Berry, and World Rugby’s refereeing department.

Videos such as the one made by Erasmus are commonplace in rugby when frustrated coaches want feedback after matches but this is the first time one of them has gone public

While there is no proof, it is suspected that the video was uploaded on social media from Australia. As things stand, World Rugby has to prove that Erasmus deliberately leaked the video if they are to make the charges against him stick.

It is increasingly looking like Erasmus’s hearing is going to fizzle out into a non-event and, at most, he is in for a slap on the wrist and possibly a fine.

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MpowerPro5,061 posts
25 Oct 2021, 13:57
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25 Oct 2021, 13:57#2
Wonder how the video got to Australia? If that’s the case, it suspiciously looks like a setup.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Oct 2021, 16:36
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25 Oct 2021, 16:36#3

More egg looks to be landing on unhinged Rassie haters Mozzzzz and the Org. 

Bwahahaha hahaha. 

Whoever leaked the video did the Rugby a huge favor. 

Cheats like Berry need to be made an example of. 

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
25 Oct 2021, 16:49
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25 Oct 2021, 16:49#4

What of the biased reffing in favour of the Boks? Is that good for World Rugby? Funny how those were never picked up. Yes, we need to make these "cheats" accountable. Before someone gets hurt!

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kingcornPro3,695 posts
25 Oct 2021, 16:57
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25 Oct 2021, 16:57#5

Hmm, the plot thickens. 

Have any  of you heard of the cloud? Rassie could have uploaded it to Vimeo but forgot to put the private filter on  etc. 

But don't forget about that sketchy Youtube account JacoJohan which Rassie retweeted. So to me it looks like Rassie is playing games here. 

Also, the report is a Tabloid paper, or Fake news, so  don't trust their credibility either. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Oct 2021, 17:16
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25 Oct 2021, 17:16#6

Rapport is not what would normally be considered a tabloid...definitely not fake news...not a fan of the rag, but Rapport is as MSM as it gets.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Oct 2021, 17:21
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25 Oct 2021, 17:21#7

Team Erasmus launch their weapons …..Erasmus announces he is traveling with the team to add pressure….time will tell. But I’m guessing World Rugby reviewed the tape 2 months ago. If  they thought it made Harrassmiss look good I suspect they would have disposed of the matter with less exposure.

Having reviewed the tape myself it was a nothing burger.

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kingcornPro3,695 posts
25 Oct 2021, 17:53
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25 Oct 2021, 17:53#8

It also looks like Rassie will be back in the coaches box, so Saffex will be happy at least. 

Just hope we can win all 3 games and then we have another 6 months to wait before we can start enjoying test rugby again. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
25 Oct 2021, 22:57
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25 Oct 2021, 22:57#9
Rassie the rugby genius
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
26 Oct 2021, 10:41
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26 Oct 2021, 10:41#10

Team Erasmus launched what?    Another wild assumption I am afraid.     Mozart has been making his own unproved assumptions continuously when it concerned  since 2018 and  has been wrong every time.     

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Oct 2021, 11:12
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26 Oct 2021, 11:12#11

So Mozzz thinks at least 23 errors made against the Boks is a "nothing burger"!  What a statement from one who is supposedly a Bok supporter.

As for the OrgAss I don't support crooked reffing. When nz lost to France I said that it was a forward pass.

However, if supporters of other teams can't stand up against any crooked reffing they do bear much responsibility for what happens.

Somebody needs to leak all Rassie's clip he has sent to the IRB toget her with any IRB responses.

Lets bring all this conniving, cheating etc out into the light. Rugby will be all the better for it.



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SebPro2,680 posts
26 Oct 2021, 12:26
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26 Oct 2021, 12:26#12

Beeno there's a huge difference between a ref's genuine error and intentional cheating.

The try from forward pass of France's against NZ in 2007 not picked up by Wayne Barnes was not intentional, viewed TMO he realised he had made a mistake and admitted so but the law in those days prohibited him to disqualify it.

Wayne Barnes has revealed how his mistake in the 2007 Rugby World Cup quarter-final spurred him on to become one of rugby’s top referees.

In a wide-ranging interview with Radio Sport’s D’Arcy Waldegrave – which you can watch in full above – Barnes talks about his career at length, including, of course, that famous decision in the All Blacks‘ quarter-final defeat to France, where a missed forward pass which led to a French try proved crucial in France’s eventual 20-18 victory.

Now one of the world’s most highly-rated referees, who was given the bronze medal match between the All Blacks and Wales at the 2019 Rugby World Cup, Barnes says the public criticism and his own drive to improve made him a superior referee.

“Everyone improves over time. I went into the 2007 World Cup probably only refereeing three or four test matches, and I’ve now refereed about 90, so you learn from those games – like New Zealand v France, and of course I’ve learned from my mistakes in that game.

“You’re 28 years old, at the start of your career – I guess it was a bit of a motivator to do a bit better. That’s how I definitely saw it, and this World Cup for me, nobody was talking about Wayne Barnes’ performance, so maybe 12 years of experience has helped do that.”

Barnes also revealed the ultimate reason for his blunder when missing the forward pass, saying that he immediately knew he had made an error when he saw it on the stadium’s screen, but the laws in 2007 did not allow the Television Match Official to overturn the decision.

“Of course it was [a forward pass] – we’ve all seen it. You know it’s a forward pass about two or three seconds later when you look up on the screen and you see it, the problem was that the TMO protocols were different then, and that’s probably part of the reason why they’ve changed it.”

Barnes, who was voted the 2019 World Rugby referee of the year, pointed to one of England’s tries being ruled out in the semifinal against the All Blacks due to obstruction as a ruling he wouldn’t have been able to make in 2007.

“The referee would have given that in 2007 because he didn’t see it clearly, and then we’d be talking about the referee. But Nigel Owens went upstairs to Marius Jonker, and they made the right decision. That’s where we’ve evolved as a sport over the last 12 years – we get the big calls right, more often than not.”


 


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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
26 Oct 2021, 12:49
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26 Oct 2021, 12:49#13

I wonder what we should think of South Africa's 9 forward passes this season, none of them have been called. Some very blatant forward passes. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
26 Oct 2021, 17:45
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26 Oct 2021, 17:45#14

Slobolobsky, Barnes missed a blatant forward pass. Yes of course it could have been incompetence. Point was I called it as a wrong decision.

Others like poor ROOITWIT would stamp his foot and complain bitterly that the poor ref was being criticized.

With Berry we had the situation where less than every 4 MINUTES, on average, a decision went incorrectly against the Boks.

Such consistently wrong calls speak to any rational fair minded person as Bias/Cheating.

Now we have the orgASS  wringing his hands very upset that some refs missed penalizing the Boks. I can only imagine how poor orgASS must have been traumatized!

BWAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA. 

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SebPro2,680 posts
26 Oct 2021, 18:43
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26 Oct 2021, 18:43#15

Ja Beeno the !st, Organ grinds his teeth whenever Rassie succeeds as with Moz...I can see right through their plastic mac's...Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum...Little Sir Echo.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
27 Oct 2021, 23:08
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27 Oct 2021, 23:08#16

A most unsavory duo Slobolobsky. 

They have gone completely off the rails. 

Now I see I am going to have to knock some sense into Mozzz about the value of free and fair elections it seems. For a clever chappie he sure can go off the rails. 



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
27 Oct 2021, 23:28
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27 Oct 2021, 23:28#17

HasBeen…..the time to worry about things being ‘free and fair’ is before the election. Once a winner is declared it’s done and dusted.

Trump did some some important things and the handling of the Covid economy was textbook. But he shot himself in the foot in the Covid briefings and then blew himself up in slow motion in the first debate.

For Trump to win all he needed to show was a thimbleful of empathy, he certainly didn’t need to to be combative as his handlers suggested. And so we get the Committee Called Biden, an inept, disfunctional presidency. Irritating!

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
28 Oct 2021, 06:34
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28 Oct 2021, 06:34#18

Josè has done what exactly? Regressing the Boks is something only a fake fan would appreciate or defend. I'm a Bok fan, that's the difference between me and you. 

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Oct 2021, 09:48
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28 Oct 2021, 09:48#19
I know you are fucking stupid omelette so for the 100th time this is what the rugby genius Rassie has done for the Boks Took us from 7th to number 1 in the rankings Beat NZ in NZ Won the RC Won the WC not only winning it, thrashing England in the process Winning the Lions series If that’s not impressive enough in your eyes then you are even more of a dumb cunt than we take you for
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kingcornPro3,695 posts
28 Oct 2021, 13:08
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28 Oct 2021, 13:08#20

I have to agree with you Saffex,  I might not always like what Rassie  does but he is effective getting average players to perform. It is not pretty, it does display skills, but it wins matches. I know  when we were under snorre, Dick Muir displayed the same tactic with kick  and chase. 

I'm also happy  to see that in the final  all  blacks  game we were able to vary it a  bit and not just  kick the whole time. 

But I don't always agree with Rassies selections or tactics, but hopefully  we can build further and hopefully win the Rugby Championship next year, but right now I want us to win all of our last 3 games. 

Wales and England will be challenging, scotland may also throw a few spanners in their but for me the most threatening is England  right now even though they have opted to  replace their veterans

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
28 Oct 2021, 18:55
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28 Oct 2021, 18:55#21

England will be tough, but in recent years Wales were more problematic for the Bokke...will probably be the same this year.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
28 Oct 2021, 20:13
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28 Oct 2021, 20:13#22

Look for 100 box kicks, especially now that Harrassmiss is now er ‘available’.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
28 Oct 2021, 20:25
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28 Oct 2021, 20:25#23
Rassie gets most of his selections right Especially when everyone is fit his starting 15 is pretty much mine 15. Willie 14. Kolbe 13. Am 12. de Allende 11. Mapimpi 10. Pollard 9. Faf 1. Kitshoff 2. Marx / Mbonambi 3. Malherbe 4. Etzebeth 5. Lood 6. Kolisi 7. PSDT 8. Vermeulen That is pretty much spot on and with his bench it’s pretty much spot on with Ox, Marx/ Mbonambi, Nyakane, Koch, RG, Kwagga, Jantjies, Jantjies and Willemse. Plus squad inclusions of Fassi, Jessie Kriel, Reinach, Hendrikse, Thomas du Toit, Wilco Louw, Moerat, v Staaden, Wiese and the du Preez twins is good My only selection issues lie with the selection of Mostert, but if RG was fit Mostert would not make the match 23. Also not a fan of past it Frans Steyn and don’t buy into Wiese being better than Dan du Preez, Roos. Also starting Kwagga at 7 or 8 is a joke
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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
31 Oct 2021, 10:42
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31 Oct 2021, 10:42#24

Leaking, leaking, leaking... It seems a SA rugby characteristic.

Gold is leaking out of SA just as a video was leaked just as rumours have been leaked out of a private WR meeting, WR known for their love of secrecy.

It is leaking.

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