SASaffolk
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SASaffolk Captain30,741 posts
08 Dec 2021, 22:00#2
No ways does Itoje deserve to be there
Kolisi has had an outstanding year
Politics plays no part in rugby selections outside of SA
Kolbe played no rugby this year so he can’t be considered
08 Dec 2021, 22:49#4
TAgh lost the scrum battle in the lion series, don’t understand that choice. Kolbe is also my pick above Jordan. Maro is good, but there is better in form locks them him. I would like to see Tomas “ Ole” lavanini next to Eben. Both storm troopers. Yes and kitzie for Jones.
SASaffolk
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08 Dec 2021, 23:10#5
Kolbe over any wing but unfortunately he spent most of the year injured
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08 Dec 2021, 23:15#6
I’d have Lood, AWJ, Retallick, Willemse, Whitelock and Henderson over Itoje
SASaffolk
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09 Dec 2021, 00:02#8
Disagree give me Lood over the over hyped Itoje anyday
I see nothing from Itoje other than nuisance value - adds no physical clout
The most hyped player in the game, closely followed by Farrell
Nothing clumsy about Willemse
09 Dec 2021, 00:36#9
Willemse is a big dude but not Mobile enough. Lood is a better lineout jumper than Itoje. Itoje gets more turnovers and is more mobile. Being so massively big and slow, has definite draw backs.
SASaffolk
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09 Dec 2021, 00:40#10
Itoje is no more mobile than Lood
Lood is more physical than Itoje
09 Dec 2021, 00:42#11
Bye the way Where is Augenoffner?
09 Dec 2021, 15:07#15
I agree, if he can get the anger monkey of his back he will flourish as a Rugby player.
MOMozart
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09 Dec 2021, 17:55#16
It’s reassuring to see that the selectors never bought the Dud hype and recognized Kerevi’s dominance over Dud Allende. That midfield dominance was probably the biggest factor in Oz’s victory over the Boks.
SASaffolk
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10 Dec 2021, 00:19#19
Kerevi never dominated DA and that’s a fact
Kerevi was good during the RC but DA was good against the Lions and by the end of the EOYT he had firmly established himself as the best 12 in the game again
Kerevi edged him mid year but that’s it
Right now DA is the best 12 in the game
SASaffolk
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10 Dec 2021, 00:32#20
I see Wales have selected de Allende as their 12 in their world 15, they also include Kitshoff, Kolbe and Mbonambi
SASaffolk
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10 Dec 2021, 01:02#22
What bullshit - DA giving England the test - what utter hogwash
DA was by far the best centre on the field in all 3 of the EOYT
Fact
SASaffolk
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10 Dec 2021, 12:34#26
We have been over the DA and Jantjies misunderstanding to death and to blame DA is insulting given the circumstances.
The only reason you are fingering DA is because you ignorantly can’t stand him
The same player who is so shit he makes the team of the year side
The selection of these players like DA and PSDT for world sides and players of the year is really embarrassing for you - but of course you are right and the rugby world is wrong
If only you realised that this very equation makes you look so rugby stupid but you don’t
SASaffolk
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11 Dec 2021, 23:43#28
Bullshit that sounds like the analysis of a 5 year old
DA was outstanding this year so much so I have him displacing Jean as our best Bok 12 ever
SASaffolk
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12 Dec 2021, 01:57#30
Nope you are lying I never said any of those were better than Jean
And yes I am 100% serious in saying DA replaces Jean as my best Bok 12 of all time
Jean was great but DA is better. Jean was more astute, DA is more effective and invaluable to the side
Summed up perfectly by the very astute Greenwood saying you stop DA you stop the Boks - he is invaluable
SASaffolk
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13 Dec 2021, 22:58#35
You are lying Moz you said I said JJ was better than Jean - I never did.
I stand by what I said about JJ in that year he made Conrad Smith look like a school boy. He looked very promising but I at least then had the balls to admit he failed later lacking the hard edge
I said Serfontein looked better than Jean did as a youngster which is true - Serfontein won U20 world player of the year. Serfontein is easily as good as Jean and has leaving for France as a youngster to blame for not establishing himself as a great Bok 12. He is a fantastic player - so again you lied
Biggest lie of all was saying I rated Olivier over Jean. I was a huge fan of Olivier, he was a class act but only as Jean’s understudy
You lied on every front - I know what I say about players - I know my players and where they rank in my mind
Jean used to be my best Bok 12 of all time but DA has eclipsed him
13 Dec 2021, 23:29#36
I am sorry to say, but DA must do much more to eclipse Jean. Jdv attacked the gain line more, created more try scoring opportunities and the “ Intercept King”come on...yes his defence was sometimes not up to standard, but still a bit better then DA.
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13 Dec 2021, 23:40#37
Mpower you know fuck all about the game
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14 Dec 2021, 20:25#40
So in fact what you are saying is that you are lying?
I never said JJ was better than Jean - all I said was that he would go down as better than Joubert and co not that he was better and then I conceded I was wrong
I never said Serfontein was better than Jean - that’s another lie. I said aged 21 Serfontein was better than Jean as a 21 and that’s a fact which I stand by. But even you are not stupid enough to conclude that a players career is defined at the age of 21. Unfortunately Serfontein chose France so we will never know who would have turned out better Jean or Serfontein. My money would have been Serfontein as he has a better skill set
And then finally the lie of Olivier over Jean - complete bullshit
I’ve said all along that Jean was my best Bok 12 of all time but has now been surpassed by DA