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World team of the decade includes 3 Springboks

Started by Mozart24 REPLIES1,188 VIEWS· 17 Mar 2021, 05:45
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Mar 2021, 05:45
#1
17 Mar 2021, 05:45#1

.....but only the Beast from our 2019 team, a player pundits here thought was too old. Seems the experts are not that impressed by the Duds:


A total of six nations are represented in the World Rugby Men’s 15s Team of the Decade in association with Mastercard, selected by the star-studded panel with seven players from New Zealand, three from South Africa, two from Ireland and one each from Australia, Italy and Wales. The Team of the Decade boast a total of 1 637 test caps between them.

1. Tendai Mtawarira (RSA) 
2. Bismarck du Plessis (RSA) 
3. Owen Franks (NZL) 
4. Brodie Retallick (NZL) 
5. Sam Whitelock (NZL) 
6. David Pocock (AUS) 
7. Richie McCaw (NZL) 
8. Sergio Parisse (ITA) 
9. Conor Murray (IRE) 
10. Dan Carter (NZL) 
11. Bryan Habana (RSA) 
12. Ma’a Nonu (NZL) 
13. Brian O’Driscoll (IRE) 
14. George North (WAL) 
15. Ben Smith (NZL)

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Mar 2021, 07:58
#2
17 Mar 2021, 07:58#2

A really good team selected by the experts,  bit the fact is that  any such team  is always questionable  since some players like Parisse and O'Driscoll  made their name before 1911.   Owen Franks at tight-head?    

As to your heroes - where is Matfield, Burger and Vermeulen in that team dimness?    

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Mar 2021, 17:25
#3
17 Mar 2021, 17:25#3

Face it nobody would really choose Parisse ahead of Vermeulen. You still can’t accept Vermeulen was integral to our WC win, can you?

Victor and Jean would be ahead of Whitelock and Nonu in many teams.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Mar 2021, 18:14
#4
17 Mar 2021, 18:14#4

When did I say he was not integral to the Springbok final win?    Victor in the 2001- 2010 might have made the squad - after his retirement and he came back into the Springbok squad he would make the list of biggest spoiler of own reputation ever/    The same apply to De Villiers whose career as a Springbok started to fade away in 2014,       

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
17 Mar 2021, 18:15
#5
17 Mar 2021, 18:15#5

"Face it nobody would really choose Parisse ahead of Vermeulen. ( and it put the rest of the choices in question too) You still can’t accept Vermeulen was integral to our WC win, can you?

Victor and Jean would be ahead of Whitelock and Nonu in many teams."

Not for the decade...they were hanging by the skin of their teeth by 2015...had it been the decade starting 2005, then hands-down...player of the decade is a stupid exercise due to this.

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
17 Mar 2021, 19:32
#6
17 Mar 2021, 19:32#6

Jean's best year was 2013. Injury ruined his run under Meyer. Victor was excellent under Meyer, and our best and most impactful lock. Lood and Steph never did reach the level he set in 2014 and 2015. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
17 Mar 2021, 19:49
#7
17 Mar 2021, 19:49#7

Jean was also terrific in the 2011 WC....Draad you are looking at this as if a candidate had to play the whole decade or much of the decade. Clearly given choices like BOD it’s the high point players achieved in the decade.  In that sense  both Victor and Jean have strong credentials.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Mar 2021, 20:46
#8
17 Mar 2021, 20:46#8
Whitelock ahead of Etzebeth is a joke as is the inclusion of average McCaw and softy North
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
17 Mar 2021, 21:14
#9
17 Mar 2021, 21:14#9

Player of the decade is too stupid on too many levels to mention...and it's even more stupid trying to explain it....nuff said.

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Mar 2021, 22:17
#10
17 Mar 2021, 22:17#10
Parisse ahead of Vermeulen for sure Vermeulen has been a very good player but Parisse was on another level
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,234 posts
17 Mar 2021, 23:06
#11
17 Mar 2021, 23:06#11
Mccaw played opensider most of his career around the rucks, often on the wrong side. Steph DuToit could be at 7, and Mccaw moved to 6. Pocock was good, but also a 6. 
Fourie Dupreez and Matfield were also good around 2010/11 at the start of the decade - and perhaps the best in their positions. 
Marx has probably been better than Bismaark when both played at their best. 
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,234 posts
17 Mar 2021, 23:06
#12
17 Mar 2021, 23:06#12
dup
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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
17 Mar 2021, 23:10
#13
17 Mar 2021, 23:10#13
McCaw is the most hyped player ever At best a solid player and great leader Great player he was not
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kingcornPro3,695 posts
18 Mar 2021, 13:43
#14
18 Mar 2021, 13:43#14

Hmm, interesting to see  how they selected this team given that Matfield and  Bakkies probably one of the best lock combos ever. But Whitelock over Matfield, not sure. Although, Matfield  was 37 in 2015 and probably peaked back in 2007 to 2011. But technically could still make the team. 

Ma u  Nonu was good but not a great though, De Villiers, De Allende or even Sunny Bill was better  than him. 

Brian O Driscol  is probably the most annoying person to listen to. Winges all the time and again, not sure if he should be on the list

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
18 Mar 2021, 15:42
#15
18 Mar 2021, 15:42#15

Interesting that whenever people pick a team that Moffie doesn't like then they're stupid people who don't understand rugby but just let them leave out Pieter-Steph du Toit and suddenly they're the experts!

I bet the people who selected Pieter-Steph as SA Player of the Year twice, World Player of the Year and Player of the 2019 RWC are stupid.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
18 Mar 2021, 15:56
#16
18 Mar 2021, 15:56#16
Whoops....there goes the thread!
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
18 Mar 2021, 18:51
#17
18 Mar 2021, 18:51#17

Tell me, stinking liar, are you denying you screwed up that other thread and only went and fixed it after I pointed it out and you edited your emabarrassing blunder?

Hmmm?

No need for any of your normal evasive and cowardly behaviour, just answer the question . . . honestly . . . if that's possible for a deceitful and manipulative old loser like yourself.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Mar 2021, 19:15
#18
18 Mar 2021, 19:15#18

KC

The team was for the period 2011 yo 2020.    Both Bakkies and  Matfield  retired from rugby in 2011,   When they came back to play in 2013 and 2014 respectively both were total disasters - Bakkies step out voluntarily before he could really damage his reputation - Matfield stayed on and did the exact opposition,   To summarize both were substandard and would not make a world Z team in that decade.   

Mozart hates Du Toit because he was a selection threat to his hero Matfield - who by 2014 was  an embarrassment.      

  

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AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
19 Mar 2021, 02:05
#19
19 Mar 2021, 02:05#19

Du Toit was never a threat, he was effortlessly handled by the Japanese and outplayed by Victor in Super rugby. Case closed. Steph had yet to show us he is test quality. 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
19 Mar 2021, 04:14
#20
19 Mar 2021, 04:14#20

Wahahaha....according toTokkie the decade doesn’t include 2010. Is this the funniest post ever.......hell it gets my vote. Any more as funny as this and I’d be prepared to call call Dud Toit the GOAT.

Whoops there goes the thread!

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Mar 2021, 10:18
#21
19 Mar 2021, 10:18#21

Mozart 

When did the 20th century start?  On 1 January 1901.   When did the  21st century  start on 1 January 2001/  Decades work on the same system idiot  supreme..

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Mar 2021, 10:18
#22
19 Mar 2021, 10:18#22

Mozart 

When did the 20th century start?  On 1 January 1901.   When did the  21st century  start on 1 January 2001/  Decades work on the same system idiot  supreme..

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
19 Mar 2021, 10:21
#23
19 Mar 2021, 10:21#23

Kindergarten Imbecile

Victor was a joke in Super Rugby and a worst joke on test level after he returned from retirement. 

Hell - Dave says you are stupid - my description of you is much more accurate.   

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Mar 2021, 01:04
#24
20 Mar 2021, 01:04#24

Tell that to the Billions who celebrated the new Millennium on January the first 2000. The old pedantic convention that the decade starts in years ending in one is nonsense anyway....based on not counting year zero. But our time comes from Christ’s birth....from the first day, not the first year. It’s an old mistake that has become a convention, now thankfully discarded by all except a few pedantic souls.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
20 Mar 2021, 07:13
#25
20 Mar 2021, 07:13#25

The old convention is the only one that counts - nothing else.    In which century are we now - the 20th or 21st century?    Are you always  stupid when caught out?    

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