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Worst Tackle Ever

Started by Devil's Advocate40 REPLIES1,942 VIEWS· 21 Sept 2021, 11:44
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DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
21 Sept 2021, 11:44
#1
21 Sept 2021, 11:44#1

There is a South African born player, Ryno Pieterse, who is making international news.... and it's all for the very wrong reasons.

This is quite possibly the worst tackle that I think I have ever seen, at professional level...…

In my opinion, it was nothing short of a disgusting act to seriously hurt another player 

Not only was it a very late tackle, but just look how he contacted the opponent

What sanction do you think this player deserves for this tackle?

Horror Tackle


AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
21 Sept 2021, 12:12
#2
21 Sept 2021, 12:12#2

You get contact like that in the NFL every week. 

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
21 Sept 2021, 14:32
#3
21 Sept 2021, 14:32#3

"You get contact like that in the NFL every week"

Ahhh … I see, of course

So Lucu just simply forgot to put any of these on.....

Shoulder Pads

Hip Pads

Thigh Pads

Knee Pads

Elbow Pads

Tail Pads

Flak Jackets

Stockings

Facemask

Mouth Guard

Gloves

Air filled interior pocket helmet

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
21 Sept 2021, 14:34
#4
21 Sept 2021, 14:34#4

LMAO!

Is it possible that Omlett knows less about NFL than he does about rugby?

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,230 posts
21 Sept 2021, 14:37
#5
21 Sept 2021, 14:37#5

I don't see anything wrong with that tackle. 

AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
21 Sept 2021, 14:47
#6
21 Sept 2021, 14:47#6


AU
AugenöffnerPro6,974 posts
21 Sept 2021, 14:48
#7
21 Sept 2021, 14:48#7

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-1MQ0Cnbhs

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Sept 2021, 15:10
#8
21 Sept 2021, 15:10#8

Well technically there was nothing wrong with the tackle itself…it was to the chest area and the tackler tried to wrap his arms. But he hit the kicker late and in the air. He himself was in the air so he was committed after a certain point….but I think there was a slight hesitation before he went in, he could have pulled out.

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
21 Sept 2021, 15:16
#9
21 Sept 2021, 15:16#9

"I don't see anything wrong with that tackle" 

Each to their own.....you are most definitely in the minority

I suspect a very long sanction will be handed down for this

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
21 Sept 2021, 15:19
#10
21 Sept 2021, 15:19#10

 "But he hit the kicker late and in the air"

This was my point as well moz

"He himself was in the air so he was committed after a certain point….but I think there was a slight hesitation before he went in, he could have pulled out"

Fully agree, this was definitely avoidable in my opinion

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
21 Sept 2021, 15:29
#11
21 Sept 2021, 15:29#11

Yes I agree ... there's nothing wrong with that tackle.

It's a beauty.

DaLindy should take notes.

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sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,230 posts
21 Sept 2021, 16:20
#12
21 Sept 2021, 16:20#12

At worst, it was a late tackle. However, the tackling technique is fine. 

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,230 posts
21 Sept 2021, 16:24
#13
21 Sept 2021, 16:24#13



sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,230 posts
21 Sept 2021, 16:26
#14
21 Sept 2021, 16:26#14



DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
21 Sept 2021, 17:17
#15
21 Sept 2021, 17:17#15

It's interesting regarding the people who have the view or opinion that this tackle was perfectly fine and legal....

I don't see why Ryno would find the need to apologize to Lucu personally after the game, and once again on his social media account, after the match.... if he did not think it was such a big issue himself.

Not just that.....some very senior pundits and refs are not agreeing with you at all.... with one world cup final ref personally calling for a "very very long ban" to be given.

I also see one national newspaper is now already saying that Ryno faces a possible 52 week ban for this specific tackle and incident ....

Interesting indeed, because if anything... this just re-emphasizes how we all see the game so differently

BE
becsPro4,378 posts
21 Sept 2021, 17:39
#16
21 Sept 2021, 17:39#16

Yes all the comments I’ve seen previously have called for a years ban and the like. 

Odd to see the comments on here stating otherwise.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
21 Sept 2021, 19:05
#17
21 Sept 2021, 19:05#17

So Lucu just simply forgot to put any of these on.....


It misses the keypoint: the receiving player has no expectation  he could be targeted by such a move as it does not belong to rugby.

He was caught lacking awareness he could be subjected to such vile treatment. Awareness of it could have changed the outcome, especially as he was kicked the footsie, which opens opportunities to protect himself at the expense of the tackling player's health.

That is a primary risk: if this trend settles and treads, players will come with full consciousness and will protect themselves.

The immediate red card served the purpose of making it clear this kind of move does not belong to rugby.

A move that by the way served no purpose in terms of the rugby game. No chances of countering the kicking , no chances of getting a turn over, nothing. Impossible to provide any game based foundation to the move. It served no purpose.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
21 Sept 2021, 19:07
#18
21 Sept 2021, 19:07#18

It's interesting regarding the people who have the view or opinion that this tackle was perfectly fine and legal....

The irony is that a guy with a moniker devil's advocate makes a conventional point while others try to deny the quality of the move.

TH
TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
21 Sept 2021, 19:09
#19
21 Sept 2021, 19:09#19

You get contact like that in the NFL every week.


What happens in other sports happens in other sports. At the moment, underground fight clubs allow eye gouging, biting, stampeding and the rest. It bears no incidence on the game of rugby.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 Sept 2021, 19:14
#20
21 Sept 2021, 19:14#20
Great hit
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
21 Sept 2021, 19:22
#21
21 Sept 2021, 19:22#21

It's a shocker but nowhere close to worst ever. Certainly no worse than CJ Stander on Pat Lambie or Sam Warburton on Vincent Clerc or Alesana Tuilagi on Jean de Villiers . . . or countless other horrific tackles in the amateur era.

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Sept 2021, 21:19
#22
21 Sept 2021, 21:19#22

Unfortunate timing, and awkward result, but not even close to being deliberately dirty. 


He apologized for the end result, does not mean that was the intent...if he gets more than 6 weeks, it's woke BS...the player was in the air becayse of a kick, he wasn't jumping to take a kick...it's an unfortunate split second timing issue...should not have even been red.

PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
21 Sept 2021, 21:48
#23
21 Sept 2021, 21:48#23

The player was in the air and it was late. For being in the air you can probably say red fair enough. In all other aspects it's a legal hit. If that's a 52 week ban, well...best make another law that limits how hard you're allowed to tackle someone.

PA
PakieCaptain17,321 posts
21 Sept 2021, 21:54
#24
21 Sept 2021, 21:54#24

I think what may be the problem for him is intent. I agree with others that he could have avoided the hit - bit of a "he's kicked it but fuck it, I'm gonna nail him anyway" moment it would seem.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,230 posts
21 Sept 2021, 22:30
#25
21 Sept 2021, 22:30#25
If they do penalize him it has to for either or both:

1) High Tackle
2) Late Tackle
If someone kicks the ball and goes a few inches off the floor how is someone supposed to time it when they tackle the person. 

Otherwise, just jump just before someone is about to tackle you, and you are in the air. 

If anything, it was a late tackle. 

The technique was fine. 
DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
22 Sept 2021, 08:02
#26
22 Sept 2021, 08:02#26

Some great comments and opinions on this

This definitely did deserve a red in my opinion though.... no question

This tackle is very similar to a intercept attempt.... get the timing wrong and the opponent is still in the air, you are screwed.... get the timing wrong on the intercept try and it's a deliberate knock on...…

It's all down to the timing, and can get bad for the player involved  when it goes wrong

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
22 Sept 2021, 14:20
#27
22 Sept 2021, 14:20#27

Bad timing shouldn't get you banned for a year...IMO going to be difficult to prove intent.

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
22 Sept 2021, 14:44
#28
22 Sept 2021, 14:44#28

It's going to be very interesting to see what sanction gets handed down here

Not good that it has been given so much worldwide exposure either..... it just adds more pressure to set "some" example

ST
Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
22 Sept 2021, 14:45
#29
22 Sept 2021, 14:45#29

Dreadful tackle and deserving of a considerable ban.

Its bad enough hitting a player in the air with that much forces , but whats even worse had that opposing player been grounded that would of direct contact to the head. You simply cannot tackle that high.

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
22 Sept 2021, 16:57
#30
22 Sept 2021, 16:57#30

Agreed Stav

Also, comparing anything like this to the NFL is just plain stupid

DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
22 Sept 2021, 17:12
#31
22 Sept 2021, 17:12#31

Split second stuff...it's easy to judge it from tv footage,  whole different kettle of fish from the player's perspective. Brian Lima had a few similar...looks bad, but there's a fine line.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Sept 2021, 18:35
#32
22 Sept 2021, 18:35#32
Anger’s theory is he was flying at the players head and it’s only the player jumping that prevented him from contacting the head. But actually the kicker had jumped before the tackler launched…so you can discard that theory.
It was clearly an aggressive tackle, meant to shake up the player ….which he probably should have aborted, although as you point out Draad, it was split second.
This was rugby in the 20th century and would have been lauded.
ST
Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
22 Sept 2021, 19:34
#33
22 Sept 2021, 19:34#33

The kicker was airborne fractionally before the tackler jumped but you can say the player tackle was already committed, but its irrelevant, there is no ifs or buts, that tackle was too high and it wasn't even a marginal thing.

You have to been aiming waste high with your tackles to allow for the fact that the player with the ball may either intentionally or unintentionally lower his body height try to evade/ride/absorb the tackle.

This is the 21st century and we know impacts to the head can cause severe and life changing injuries. People should not be risky brain injuries just for entertainment value.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Sept 2021, 20:10
#34
22 Sept 2021, 20:10#34

‘Waste’ high…..how high is that, as tall as a garbage bin or perhaps a dump. LOL! He was aiming at the players chest, because the kicker was in the air when he committed.

ST
Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
22 Sept 2021, 20:28
#35
22 Sept 2021, 20:28#35
"‘Waste’ high…..how high is that, as tall as a garbage bin or perhaps a dump. LOL!"
LOL! as if someone at your age doesn't know what waste high means.

"He was aiming at the players chest, because the kicker was in the air when he committed."
If he went that high because the player was in the air then it was a deliberate decision to tackle a player in the air. Either way a 100% stone cold red card.
Stop trying to defend the indefensible.


MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Sept 2021, 20:44
#36
22 Sept 2021, 20:44#36

I know what ‘waist high’ means. Stop trying to defend the indefensible….game, set and match!

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
23 Sept 2021, 11:38
#37
23 Sept 2021, 11:38#37

Stav, I can see you shaking your head in disbelief but yes, Moffie is actually this childish.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
23 Sept 2021, 15:03
#38
23 Sept 2021, 15:03#38

Says Peeper who made an unsuccessful career out of  attacking posters for their spelling. The hilarious part is spelling software would normally have saved this dunce, but he contrived to actually spell a real word.

Then hilariously when I fed him ‘garbage dump’ he still didn’t get it. One of the most  embarrassing gaffs, all conducted in the usual Anger self  righteous tone…..an apt fate for a pompous Irish schoolmarm.


ST
Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
26 Sept 2021, 10:39
#39
26 Sept 2021, 10:39#39
Ah I get it now. I deserve abit ribbing for that one in fairness. Still classic Moz though, make sure to concentrate on grammar instead of having to actually debate someon e.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
26 Sept 2021, 21:08
#40
26 Sept 2021, 21:08#40
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