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Squealing Stompie crybabies fined . . .

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
15 May 2013, 10:56
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15 May 2013, 10:56#1

The Hapless Stompies have been found guilty of bringing the game into disrepute and breaching the SANZAR code of conduct after their officials launched into a typically tearful Stompie tantrum against a linesman in the match against the Hurricanes on April 26.

 

You can read the article here.

 

The Stompies have to pay a fine of $A15000 (about R137000) and they also had to issue a grovelling apology to the linesman who was subjected to their disgusting verbal abuse, Sheldon Eden-Whaitiri.

 

Glad to see that these pathetic whiners are no longer getting away with their never-ending bitching and blubbering every time a ref's decision goes against them. Well done SANZAR!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 May 2013, 11:03
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15 May 2013, 11:03#2

Rooinek

Thanks for the info - they should dedut the fine from the salary of Coetzee - to punish him for moaning - whie he makes shit team selections.

By the way - that complaining referee was wrong repeatedly  and he should have been read th riot act as well - but the issue herewas abuseof him - during the game and that was really what caused the fine.   Wonder whether he was not read the riot act afterwards - but we will of course never know about it. 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
15 May 2013, 11:17
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15 May 2013, 11:17#3

Ou Maaik, firstly I'm not sure if you're referring to the same incident because the abuse that the Stompies were fined for was directed at the linesman, not the ref.

 

Secondly, all refs (and linesmen and TMOs) are subjected to reviews of their performance after every game so we don't need players, fans, officials or indeed message board contributors to whine non-stop about all their mistakes. People who are far more qualified than you or I are already monitoring performances and ensuring that we get the best possible officiating.

 

I'll say it again, the current professional rugby refs are the best qualified people on this planet to officiate in rugby matches and anyone who has a problem accepting that fact should find some other sport to follow.

 

I find all this bitching and moaning about referees to be nothing short of pathetic and I'm afraid to say that my fellow South Africans (and the Stompie Blowhards in particular) are the worst culprits.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 May 2013, 11:27
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15 May 2013, 11:27#4

Roionek

I was referring to the line judge - not the referee.   I never before saw him reffing any full game - and it is unlikely that it would happen,  since there are referee assessments and sometimes the outcomes become public knowledge.  The referees are then not used for a while - eg Berry - but Berry was a referee, and he was on ice for more than a month before he was given another game to ref - that probably was his punishment for his major flop in the Chetahs - Stormers game.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 May 2013, 12:03
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15 May 2013, 12:03#5

Bwahahahhahahaha typical rooitwit grovelling. When oh when will ou rooitwit ever become more than a doormat for biased refs and officials.
What ou rootwit has never realised is that unless there is protest these twits get away with murder. Hence the eminent Prof Tim Noakes calling for an investigation after the Bryce Lawrence debacle. Evil abounds when good men do nothing.

Well done Stormers keep telling these guys were to get off.  Perhaps some other franchises should step up to the plate as well!  Together we can solve the problem! 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
15 May 2013, 12:56
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15 May 2013, 12:56#6

Baboon-ou, just so I'm clear, when you refer to the Bryce Lawrence "debacle" are you referring to the disgraceful and embarrassing episode where the shrill and indignant squealing of blubbering and excuse-making half-wits like you - together with vitriolic Facebook campaigns and even death threats - caused a decent rugby man to give up his profession because he feared for his life if he ever reffed in South Africa again?

 

Is that the "debacle" you're referring to?

 

A truly shameful chapter in South African rugby!

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 May 2013, 14:01
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15 May 2013, 14:01#7

rooitwit obviously the widespread condemantion of bycy's diabolical ref displalys has passed over your head as has his sacking by th IRB etc etc.

It would serve little purpose, given we are dealing with a "mind' closed more closly than a vice, to spend more ime on the matter.

However rooitwit allow me to post some thoughtful opinions by Saffa fans in respect of their views regarding refs (Unlike the dormat rooitwit these fans are standing up and expressing their rightful displeasure at unacceptable levels of offication -Rooi how about posting that niceblack and white pic of you again!)

 

Johann Greyling · Top Commenter · Rand Afrikaans University What a load of rubbish! The fact that the 'so-called' officials are so 'untouchable, is contributing directly to frustrations etc. boiling over...
I hear of more and more people not watching anymore because of pathetic officiating! Steven Bresler · Top Commenter · Sea Point Boys High Listen, the only time that player are put in that situation is when the "officials", get it wrong game after game. The guy on the sideline needs to get more involved, the game is very quick now and no matter how fit the ref is, they can't keep up. Time to start thinking of 2 refs on the pitch. Anyway, like the IPL, the format is too long. Let's play 1 game against each team and top 4 get into semi's, maybe then look at midweek games, then we will see who can run with the pack or pisses like a puppy. Jan Fenenga · Top Commenter · Technikon Witwatersrand Pathetic, the refs are protected by ZANZAR. It's them who bring the game into disrepute. I have never heard of a ref being fined yet they often admit to their mistakes. The Australasian referees particularly · Top Commenter · Honeydew Printing College Greg ,when players make mistakes over n over ,they get replaced simple as that .
I acknowledge that refs are human after all but some mistakes seems to be deliberate and decisions are bias .I think ZANZAR needs to rethink their methods when selecting refs to officiate games of less of a common interest .I don’t know how we gonna get around this coz NZ n Aussie refs are suspect Maybe get some Northern Hemisphere refs or something .we might not get rid of the mistakes but at least it will effect both teams n not just one all the time....... Greg Townes · Top Commenter They should be fined as well if found guilty. Hopefully the Stormers pointed this out to ZANZAR as well. Hennie Kuit · Works at Molo Afrika Speech Technologies and what about the crude language (audible on TV) used by the Hurricanes towards the referee (Jafta) last Saturday in the game against the Kings.(Any comment rootitwit) Blaze Eigenmann · Top Commenter · Rhodes University and no recourse for penalising the official for such a blatantly and costly kak decision. Gavin Brown · Rhodes University settle down bukko, or you'll be fined next. Christo Botha · Belfast Hoërskool Its the refs who are bringing the game into disrepute - you can be sure that poor refereeing has been the highlight of this years Super Ref showdown. (Thats what its boling down to a Super ref showdown) Waide Guerini · Top Commenter · Westfields Primary School Well this is a load of bull. Mabey sankak should look into getting decent officials for Super Rugby and look at their disappointing factors in games more closely, if the players and staff are getting so frustrated try being a supporter.  Well there you have it . One could find much more coment like this if needs be. Oh when oh when will rooitwit graduate from being the complete doormat!

 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
15 May 2013, 14:20
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15 May 2013, 14:20#8

Oh I see, so your response to my claim that South Africans are generally a bunch of blubbering crybabies when it comes to referees is to put up a selection of quotes from blubbering crybabies crying about refs?

 

Poor little dears. Sniff! What naughty referees! They're always so ugly to your poor Stompies. It's so unfair . . . I think I'm going to cry . . . boohoohoo!

 

Listen Baboon-ou, I'm sure I've told you this before but if you (or the other pathetic little ref-bashing crybabies) have any constructive suggestions to make . . . or if you know of better qualified refs . . . or if you're aware of some extra-terrestial species that doesn't make normal human mistakes . . . then by all means, let's hear about it. On the other hand, if all you're going to do is bleat and whinge and threaten to stop watching rugby if the referees don't miraculously improve, then rather just don't watch rugby . . . because this is as good as it gets.

 

Okay? Good. Then dry your little eyes and run along, Baboon-ou. There's a brave little chap!

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allblacknblueClub Pro233 posts
15 May 2013, 16:09
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15 May 2013, 16:09#9

Yea death threats are apart of the job when refing in SA that makes it easy to be impartial dont it. There are already so few reasons why a young bloke would want a career as a ref, so yeah lets just slam them and tell them we want to kill them and jump the fence to blind shot the poor bastard while he's working..... You really are a dumb shit arn't you benzip? What do you do for a job again?

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JeromeVClub Pro492 posts
16 May 2013, 03:19
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16 May 2013, 03:19#10

In this case they didn't specifically go into detail as to what was said that was offensive, however taking the frustration on the assistant ref by being verbally abusive isn't right. Players have to be careful what they say because they can easily become a target especially SA players, the player could've been more excessive to the ref. I can recall a other time this occured although nothing was done about it with the other teams. The majority of the people are only focusing on one side of the spectrum but not the other which is why didn't the assistant ref also get fined or at least fired for being terrible at reffing? For those of you who did watch the Stormers vs Hurricanes match in Palmerston North knows how poor the assistant ref and ref was. I watched it the second time and from what i can observe the communication between the assistant ref and the ref was in fact very bad, the assistant ref needs to get more involved not just put the flag up for touch. Franks did knock the ball out of the half back hands while the pass was being made that is a penalty he is not entitled to do that, they called for a knock on for the Stormers player instead, Franks was throwing punches but no yellow card?

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redsmanPro1,710 posts
16 May 2013, 04:48
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16 May 2013, 04:48#11

For 15K Id say it was worth voicing opinions about disgraceful cheating refs. The kiwis need to be put in their place re their injustices toward visiting teams. Its not just aussie teams that cop it obviously.

I have not doubt the RWC was rigged by partial reffing to give the homeside the MAX advantage and I would even bring Craig Jorbet into this conspiracy with his reffing in the GF v france.

Anyway the kiwis will find out soon enough whether thier teams are as good as they like to think or its actually been bent refs giving them a leg all these years.

Rootneck - Bryce has been a cheat for many a years prior to RWC just unfortunately Aussies are too good natured and accepting otherwise he would have had crossairs put on him long time ago.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 May 2013, 06:13
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16 May 2013, 06:13#12

RooiAAS I for one am not aware of any "extra-terrestial"(sic) species....nor is Oxford. Bwaaaaaaaaahahahaha.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 May 2013, 09:15
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16 May 2013, 09:15#13

Hey rooitwit I have some very constructive suggestions to make.

Strict action should be taken against miscreant refs. The culture of the refs beng beyond criticism should be overturned - in as much as players and managment get stick why should refs etc be exempt.

Action taken agains refs should be made known - ie transparency. Coaches should take up with the authorities bad refereeing more often and more vigourously. Refs should appear before tribunals much like players do. TMO should be able to overturn bad ref decisions. Captains should have three appeals to TMO per half.

Stats of all ref decisions should be anlaysed with a view to detecting bias. This should be reviewed by a panel and the right questions asked of the ref concerned an dthe appropriate disciplinary action etc taken.

Blatant mistakes costing a side a game should be reversed and the points adjusted accordingly. Refs again must explain themselves. Its too easy to fob things off. (Take the case of Honiss telling Smit to talk to his team and then allowing Ireland to score - later he admitted he had made a "mistake" - ban him for life)

Financial disclosure details should be made to the panel re assets etc and forensic audits done. The money trail will often tell a tale.

The tone at the top should change. Zero tolerence of ccorrupt and incomptetent refs.

Finally all nz refs should b ebanned in any games involving non nz side. 

The cesspool needs to be cleaned up and doing the above would soon restore integrity into the process.

Bent refs bring the game into disrepute fa rmor ethan the Stormers complaining

Follow this sound advice and all the problems would soon be pretty much sorted.

Beeno attempting the impossible- educating my good buddy rooitwit!.

 

CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
16 May 2013, 09:57
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16 May 2013, 09:57#14

Redsman ... are you still sobbong your eyes out over been spanked this past weekend???

 

Huh??

 

Do me a favour will ya ... grow a pair!!!

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
16 May 2013, 10:19
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16 May 2013, 10:19#15

My God but you're stupid, Baboon-ou!

 

 

Duh-huh! Il iket oreplyb eforeir eadt heo thep ersonsc omments!

 

Did you even read my post before you started spouting the same repetetive and ignorant garbage?

 

Refs are reviewed, chump, and action is taken against them when their performances warrant it. Frankly I'm amazed you don't know this.

 

Your suggestion that points are adjusted after the games is just so pathetically stupid that it doesn't merit any comment . . . other than to confirm that you're a moron and you clearly never played a game of rugby in your life.

 

Your next suggestion that referees bank accounts are audited and made public just demonstrates what a laughably naive world view you have.

 

The only comment you make that has any merit is the one regarding neutral refs which is something I commented on ages ago. I agree that SANZAR's decision to do away with mandatory neutral refs was extremely short-sighted  and all it has achieved is to get small-minded and amazingly stupid little conspiracy theorists like yourself all worked up and tearful every time a refereeing decision goes against your crap and overrated team.

 

Anyway, I can see that getting any information into your immensely thick skull is much too big a task for me, Baboon-ou, so you just keep on whining and squealing about refs like a weak-arsed little bitch . . . it's the one thing you do well.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 May 2013, 11:46
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16 May 2013, 11:46#16

Oh pease rooitwit try and engage a bit with what is being said. I am not talking about phony review systems where no action is taken there has to be some bite in all this, some transparancy. If you think what we have is working you simply have no clue.

A guy comes in from the sides at a ruck then hands in take the ball back and sharks lose opportunity near line. Nothing happens.

Endless examples of bad refereeing and you think this ticking the boxes approach is working. Bwhahahahahaha man how daft is that. (How was Honiss dealt with etc etc) How was bryce lawrences removal from the elite panel dealt with. Was there ever an apologhy offered. No its all hushed up and spin doctors rule.

Next nobody said financial details must be made public. I said made know to the panel. Hahahahhaha read what is said ya dope!!

By the way you had better be careful that baboon is pretty large and wee CC will be having a tantrum about it! He thinks he dictates how folk post here - a complete moron. Trust you are whipping him at chess?

Fact is it is widely accepted that the standards are up the pole and something needs to be done. There is widepread discontent. Only complete spineless jelly baby dormats like you role over and accept it all. Grow some rooitwit you are looking very lame right now!

I played first team rugby for a top school in Zim as an under 16. As we did A levels and some plugged you had guys up to 19 in the side.

I also am in complete agreement with Reds.

No more bleating please oaks the Stormers were right to protest and only their method can be criticised. However even here one appreciates that little can behappening via offical routes.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 May 2013, 11:56
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16 May 2013, 11:56#17

rooitwit says "their officials launched into a typically tearful Stompie tantrum against a linesman".

Now may I ask you rooitwit to provide examples of these "typically tearful Stompie tantrum(s) against a linesman" by these Stompie officals. Stormers have being going for many years so if its typical it should be very easy for you.

Lets hear from you rooitwit. No bluster, no tantrums, no sidestepping - just some solid evidence!

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allblacknblueClub Pro233 posts
16 May 2013, 12:00
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16 May 2013, 12:00#18

Wrong pic Rooinek, the monkey needs an eye patch to be as one eyed as benzip is. Greatz benzip you have sunk to new lows.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 May 2013, 12:07
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16 May 2013, 12:07#19

New lows? I thought I had conveyed ou mcaaaws escapade with the british madam before? Also I think his being called mccheat is widely know and used. Cant see any new lows re mcaaaw at all. Has he gone lower?

If you want a role model with cred , better look to guys like Dan Carter and Justin Marshall.
 

 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
16 May 2013, 12:33
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16 May 2013, 12:33#20

AB&B, truth is I feel a bit bad comparing Baboon-ou with a baboon. It's probably a bit unfair . . . so I apologize to all baboons everywhere!

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 May 2013, 12:37
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16 May 2013, 12:37#21

Meet rooitwit - he talks to baboons. Why am I not surprised.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 May 2013, 14:50
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16 May 2013, 14:50#22

What sort of ignorant, slope headed fool would post: "spouting the same repetetive and ignorant garbage?"

 

Imagine somebody so stupid that they can't spell "repetitive",  calling another poster ignorant. RooiAAS you make a living out of seizing on other posters' innocent mistakes. So do try to get the spelling right on your punch lines....especially if those lines refer to other posters as fools.

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ZiplineNewbie5 posts
19 May 2013, 18:13
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19 May 2013, 18:13#23

 Earlier before being fined I read that the Stormers were trying to distance themslves from the incident.

They said one of their staff should be fined and not everyone.Apparently he threatened the linesman.

 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
19 May 2013, 19:08
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19 May 2013, 19:08#24

I find that very easy to believe.

 

Most self-respecting teams would take that kind of punishment together but here we have the Stompies protesting their innocence while trying to shift all the blame onto one member of their staff.

 

What a disgraceful bunch of back-stabbing crybabies!

 

 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
19 May 2013, 20:07
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19 May 2013, 20:07#25

 What is of far greater concern to rugby was why did this guy react like this. In a court of law both sides of the story are heard. Here we dont know all that happened to incenses the guy. Its all hushed up. What is need is transparency. Was he incensed for a reason is the real issue. What was the cause of this. What is being done to ensure it doesnt happen again. Are the officals being dealt with et etc.

So the Stormers get in th neck and the culprits walk free yet again. We then wonder why things dont improve. This is the system ou rooitwit so heartily endorses!!!!

Ou rooitwit well he never quite sees the wood from the trees. Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha - but he can talk to baboons or so he thinks - Hahahahahahahaha

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
20 May 2013, 09:35
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20 May 2013, 09:35#26

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
20 May 2013, 11:19
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20 May 2013, 11:19#27

Hehe . . . nice one Ceradyne!

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
20 May 2013, 14:25
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20 May 2013, 14:25#28

Come on windpomp and ou rooitwit we did beat the sharks in the Currie Cup and in the Super 15. Its a bit harsh saying in effect the sharks are nobody.

Can the bulle beat the sharks I wonder. Alberts is back and isnt the game in Durbs.  No altitude to help. I sense an upset?

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
20 May 2013, 16:00
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20 May 2013, 16:00#29

Another one for you Beenbal. Unfortunately it is in Afrikaans, but I am sure you will get it:

 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 May 2013, 16:27
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20 May 2013, 16:27#30

Nothing unites the Board losers more than their jealousy of the Cape. But I can understand, having spent my early days in the Transvaal, going to the Cape was a sudden discovery of how rewarding life can be. As for the Pamplona escapees in rural England....my question is, does it feel any better?

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
20 May 2013, 18:20
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20 May 2013, 18:20#31

I guess that you will have to ask one of the Pamplona escapees in rural if you really wanted to know, Moz.. If you can find one, that is.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 May 2013, 01:44
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21 May 2013, 01:44#32

 Hahaha......which part doesn't fit Pamplona or the Clydesdale Pegasus?

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
21 May 2013, 08:51
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21 May 2013, 08:51#33

First it was Hakwa with his unfortunate use of pictures to undermine rugby facts now we have ou windpomp doing the same.

Very funny but nowhere near accurate. Rather than going to the bulle Bryan is heading off oversea for some big pay days. Bwahahhahahahaha dream on bulle and keep smoking that strong weed!

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