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Ed, could you pretty please.......

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
06 Jun 2019, 03:34
#1
06 Jun 2019, 03:34#1

delete Clean Cut's post "Redneck....the man"


The board has shown that it thrives on diversity of persona and opinion but it has also shown that it does not suffer dragging family or racism into its arena. His post is vile and disgusting and has absolutely nothing to do with rugby.

I would also appreciate if you make an example that we do not suffer racism by suspending his membership until after the RWC. That way everyone knows that you are serious and we're left to argue/debate amongst ourselves without the stench of racism being dragged along in front of our noses.


thank you.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
06 Jun 2019, 07:16
#2
06 Jun 2019, 07:16#2
Dense sticking his nose into other people's business again.
This was Dense's response on the Redneck thread (before everyone voiced their disapproval):

"Funnily enough the two posters, Moz and myself, who should have a lot to say about the subject matter have said very little and in my case nothing at all. It's not like I'm unaware of what's being said, I have read everything relating to the subject matter."


Not one word against the angry gay little man's deceitful tirade against me . . . in fact Dense sounds rather proud of the fact that he says nothing . . . and instead he tries to make it all about him and Moffie. Yet now that everyone else is up in arms, Dense takes it upon himself to be the board spokesperson in this regard and now - a week later - he is demanding that the Mods take down a post that he was bragging he had nothing to say about at the time.
Oh and Ed, if you are reading this, I'm not asking for the thread to be deleted or for the angry little gay man to be banned . . . I just asked that it be moved off the rugby section.
PS It doesn't look like there's any need to ban or suspend the angry gay little man because Klown seems to have tucked tail and slunk away all by himself.
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
06 Jun 2019, 08:39
#3
06 Jun 2019, 08:39#3

Denny ... you really are a spineless little shit.

Here you are defending a man that despises you with his every fibre. A man that has gone out of his way to embarrass you at every turn ... for years ... and years on end.

A man that you have spent the better part of 2 decades bitching about ... constantly crying about how he invaded your privacy ... posted pics on this site of you ... blah, blah, blah ...

Wow!!

Ok. I should have known that you suffer from “battered wife” syndrome and that a spine in your case is hard come by.

Let me guess ... you thought that by doing this you would draw him over to your side ... that he would thank you for the kind, supportive gesture ,,, and become a good friend of yours, right?

How’s that working out for you, huh ... “Dense”?

Haaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaa!!

I never pegged you for being stupid, but it seems I need to rethink that.

He is an arsehole. In fact I do not know of any that can match him.

Everything I mentioned in the post that you want banned, is true, and you know it.

Sabotaging the board .. throwing tantrums and skulking off for a year ... coming back and pretending to be someone else ... emotional pleas for acceptance while under the influence of booze ... all of it.  

Well ... you have shown where your loyalty lies ... you are on your own now, bud. Good luck.  

 

I gave him a hiding last week. A hiding like he has never had before. Bent him over my knee and spanked him bloody. So much so that he dived under the bed and sulked for a week.

Haaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaa!!

But as was expected ... this board is a very important part of his life ... one he cannot do without ... and he needed to find a way back.

How to do it though?????? How to save face after such a beating????? The big bad Redneck exposed as an arsehole, a weed, a loudmouth. What to do .. whatever do I to do?

Well ... he saw he had the support from guys like you Denny and the poo dipper Plum.

I’m not sure I could ever have shown my face on here again. Not after such a battering ... but there you have it. It’s just another part of his sparkling personality.

Feeling a little better now, Redneck?

Yes we know ... you really are a very nice guy ... you don't ever lie ... you are just a little misunderstood ... honest njun!!

Haaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaaaaa!!!



PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
06 Jun 2019, 08:50
#4
06 Jun 2019, 08:50#4

CC

How's ELE?

BL
bluebokPro3,977 posts
06 Jun 2019, 08:56
#5
06 Jun 2019, 08:56#5
My take on the matter. Move the Redneck post to the Trumpet and be done with it. As for the racist accusations, yup, CC has gone too far with his them vs us sentiment, but I see two ways of looking at that. The PC way, which is to say that we should not view the different races as separate, and that we should be colour blind and integrated. CC clearly does not share this sentiment and it is pretty clear that his opinion is that the different races should not mix and that there are different standards applied to the different races in South Africa. Or the factual way, which is to say that South Africa really is divided and the truth on the ground is that different races do view each other as separate and do not, the vast majority of the time, integrate naturally. CC's view on the matter may be wrong, depending on which way you look at it, but in my opinion, it is not racist, but rather something that can and should be debated. 
It certainly does not warrant him being booted from the site. 
Den, as I understand it, you are coloured, so I get that your view of what he has said differs from mine, and differs greatly from that of CC, but I really think we could talk about our differing views and possibly expand one another's views on the matter. If I seem condescending, I don't intend to be. I have great respect for the fact that you never use your race to try to bolster or influence your arguments in any way. As a testament to this, on reflection, I am even a little unsure that you are in fact coloured at all, if that is the case, then just ignore this last paragraph. 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Jun 2019, 09:12
#6
06 Jun 2019, 09:12#6

Oh please Dense Denise just zip it. Nobody wants CC  banned. 

All should just calm down and relax. 

Why the heck move the thread to Beeno's Trumpet!!! A place for the intelligent, discerning and informed poster after all. Move it to other if you must. 

The thread is about done and time to move on and lift the tone. Beeno of course is an example to ALL.

As for the toad dense Denise - how about an apology for saying I drove JW from the boat. Get off your high horse dense.


CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
06 Jun 2019, 09:33
#7
06 Jun 2019, 09:33#7

It really isn’t that difficult to understand my views on race.

I am pro white ... just as every black man is pro black.

I do not support anything that favours him unfairly over me or any of my people.

Never have and never will, however I am prepared to give him a shot at anything if he’s up to the task. No favours will be granted to help lighten his load though. He’s either up to it or he’s out. I do not believe in dishing handouts out.   

I do not agree with mixed race relationships that bring bastardized children into the world. Just as a leopard and a cheetah don’t copulate, neither should we.

I will not sing their national anthem ... nor will I embrace their flag as my own.    

I am not ashamed of my views at all. Why should I be?

I can easily live in peace with them.  Question is, can they with me. Seems not as they’re forever trying to do me and mine in.

If that is grounds for my banning then so be it. I am not going to change any of my views to please Denny, Redneck or anyone else on this board.  

Oh and any form of suspension will be viewed as a banning ... and no I won't sign on using a different name.

So go for it.


       

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
06 Jun 2019, 09:39
#8
06 Jun 2019, 09:39#8

Oh ... and thank you, BlueBok.

Your objectivity is appreciated.



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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
06 Jun 2019, 09:46
#9
06 Jun 2019, 09:46#9

Right, so Denny, whom I understand to be coloured, is a bastard for simply being born? By extension, so is everyone else in his family.

Having grown up around Yeoville/Hillbrow and having many coloured friends. No, friends is too soft. Brothers and family is the apt term. Since I was a child and up to present day, our bond has never weakened. As such there is just one thing I have to say to.

I feel very sorry for you.



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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
06 Jun 2019, 09:48
#10
06 Jun 2019, 09:48#10

I'm with Blue too. No bannings please...and CC, although I think you go too far at times, I don't think you are racist....it would be boring if our beliefs and comfort zones are never challenged...what happened to Her Drache BTW?

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
06 Jun 2019, 09:50
#11
06 Jun 2019, 09:50#11
Still trying to reason with the angry little gay man, Plum?
Good luck with that.
BTW, what is ELE? I hope the angry little gay man hasn't caused an Extinction-Level-Event!
CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
06 Jun 2019, 09:55
#12
06 Jun 2019, 09:55#12

No need, Plum.

I don't need your pity. I am more than content with my life and the way I see things.

You enjoy your dildos ... I have no need of them ... you enjoy shit on your pecker ... I find that off putting and not erotic at all.

You and I are very different.



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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
06 Jun 2019, 10:00
#13
06 Jun 2019, 10:00#13

Anyway, enough of this kak. 

I'm gonna try to start something more positive in Beeno 's section.

I think some of the regulars here will enjoy it.


PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
06 Jun 2019, 10:03
#14
06 Jun 2019, 10:03#14

CC if you knew you needed pity then you wouldn't need it.


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ChippoPro3,372 posts
06 Jun 2019, 10:15
#15
06 Jun 2019, 10:15#15
YAAWN
Denny moaning again to Ed.Den, why don't you buy a house next to Ed so that you can cook, clean, shine and polish everything that Ed needs you to?

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
06 Jun 2019, 10:18
#16
06 Jun 2019, 10:18#16

Huh?

Plum ... you offered it ... I didn't ask for it. That should have been the heads-up to not needing it. 

Try to wake up will you!!



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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
06 Jun 2019, 11:02
#17
06 Jun 2019, 11:02#17

"Dense sticking his nose into other people's business again."

FYI everything that appears in the public domain is everyone's business. Got that? Huh? I hope so. If you have private email I suggest now's the time to use it.

And BTW, have a look at how many times my name appears in CC's post for it to really become my business. My stance on dragging family onto the board is nothing new, that it happens to be your family is coincidental, my stance doesn't change, I'm not personally defending you, if it were anyone else's family I would feel exactly the same. 

Funny that you didn't accuse me of interfering when I gave you words of support after you had your last sanctimonious meltdown. 

Denny ... you really are a spineless little shit.

"Here you are defending a man that despises you with his every fibre. A man that has gone out of his way to embarrass you at every turn ... for years ... and years on end.

A man that you have spent the better part of 2 decades bitching about ... constantly crying about how he invaded your privacy ... posted pics on this site of you ... blah, blah, blah ... "

No Clean Cut I'm not defending him, I'm defending a principle( see my above comments) and to labour the point if it was about your family I would feel exactly the same. Get off the family thing man, have a go at each other, say what you want to about me or anyone else but leave family out of it. I hate it with a passion. I have also said that most of what you say about him is true, that what you're saying is nothing new and that numerous posters have said exactly the same over two decades. So how on earth am I defending anyone......I'm critical of the fact that family is once again drawn into an arguement....fullstop.

Same can be said of racism, I'll oppose it for as long as my arse points to the ground, I've had to suffer it until I left South Africa but I don't make a song and dance about it and neither do I crave anyone's sympathy but I do wish we could really listen to each other and have an open and honest discussion about it. I'm no shrinking violet but I curse myself for being conscious of Apartheid's effects the scars of which I will carry to my grave. And no I don't hate white folks as a matter of fact I don't hate anyone on this site but I will and have put my nuts on the line for my inner convictions.

Bluebok and Plum.....Respect!



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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
06 Jun 2019, 11:43
#18
06 Jun 2019, 11:43#18
"My stance on dragging family onto the board is nothing new . . ."
No it's not. Who could forget this classic:
"Perhaps if your father wasn't a drunk and had spent some more time with your mother then just maybe she wouldn't have had the need to service the next door neighbor. Kills a coupla birds with one stone cause then you would have known your real father."
We know Dense's stance on dragging family into these discussions in his typically low-class and common manner. It's plain for all to see.


CL
CleanCutPro9,905 posts
06 Jun 2019, 11:48
#19
06 Jun 2019, 11:48#19

Save the lecture for someone who cares, Denny.

We have heard your sob stories for too long now. Enough already. If it's not Redneck being a meany to you then it's me ... or apartheid ... or BeanDip ... or someone else on here. You will always find something to cry about. It comes with being spineless.

It seems Ed has held off on suspending me.

"Funny that you didn't accuse me of interfering when I gave you words of support after you had your last sanctimonious meltdown."

Your attempt to befriend Redneck by getting rid of me hasn't worked out quite as planed, huh? I doubt you would have won any buddy points with him anyway if you had managed it. My condolences. Better luck next time. 

Chump.


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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
06 Jun 2019, 11:50
#20
06 Jun 2019, 11:50#20

"Funny that you didn't accuse me of interfering when I gave you words of support after you had your last sanctimonious meltdown." 

So very true Denny...…...

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
06 Jun 2019, 11:57
#21
06 Jun 2019, 11:57#21

Don't you have cheese to sprinkle on something?

Go do your job, pizzaman!!



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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
06 Jun 2019, 12:19
#22
06 Jun 2019, 12:19#22

Befriend Koosie? Yeah right, now there's a laugh. Moz said more or less the same thing....was he also trying to befriend Koosie? Ever heard of common decency, doubt it but even if you did it wouldn't mean a thing to you. 

Tell me this though, and hence the reason for my silence on your original post....I gather you're making a call to arms, meaning you were hoping that I'd join you in a war of words against your ex mate........seeing you're so aware of what he said about us, his insults and his snooping, the photos and family conversations etc etc....if as you point out it is wrong my question is why didn't you say so at the time?.....why didn't you come to our defence and say so? Instead you turned your back on us and even went so far as to defend him. But now because he's stabbed you in the back you expect us to rush to your defence. Don't work like that mate, some of us live by the simple...scratch my back and I'll scratch yours......works well, you have a living example staring at you all day everyday of the week right here on site. Try it someday....trust me you'll discover some real friends.

Happy Chessing.

Over and out. I know when I'm wasting my time.



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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
06 Jun 2019, 12:26
#23
06 Jun 2019, 12:26#23

"My stance on dragging family onto the board is nothing new . . ."


No it's not. Who could forget this classic:
"Perhaps if your father wasn't a drunk and had spent some more time with your mother then just maybe she wouldn't have had the need to service the next door neighbor. Kills a coupla birds with one stone cause then you would have known your real father."
We know Dense's stance on dragging family into these discussions in his typically low-class and common manner. It's plain for all to see.
You're not the only one dealing in spades. After I warned you several times to leave my family alone over several different forums I eventually got sick of it and  responded with the above. Now shut-up Clown and suck it up....you got what you deserved. 


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
06 Jun 2019, 12:28
#24
06 Jun 2019, 12:28#24
"But now because he's stabbed you in the back . . ."
That's a spectacularly unique take on recent events.
Dense, I know you're a craven coward (not to mention a common low-class liar and a stinking hypocrite) but could you please put up some evidence of me stabbing the angry little gay man in the back?
I'm genuinely interested to know how you arrived at that conclusion.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
06 Jun 2019, 12:30
#25
06 Jun 2019, 12:30#25

Wehe, Dense's common, low-class and foul-mouthed nature exposed for all to see . . . and what has he got to fight back with? A big fat zero. 

I've been asking Dense literally for years to quote anything I've ever said that even begins to compare with that filth and here we are years down the line and we still have a big, fat zero. We just have Dense's word. The "word" of a proven liar.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
06 Jun 2019, 12:54
#26
06 Jun 2019, 12:54#26

Don't you have cheese to sprinkle on something?

Come to daddy …..

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
06 Jun 2019, 12:58
#27
06 Jun 2019, 12:58#27

Proven liar...…. LMAO

This comment coming from Piss Mint..... LMFAO

Fooking Hilarious

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
06 Jun 2019, 13:38
#28
06 Jun 2019, 13:38#28
Censure is just another form of fascism. It is my way or the highway. For them it is never a matter of “I don’t agree with you”. It is always a matter of “you don’t agree with me”. In other words, it is their way or the highway. They are never the ones who are prepared to compromise. If you don’t conform then you have to piss off. They always ascribe to the principle of free speech. The only problem is their interpretation of that particular principle. They interpret it as: “You are free to agree with me”. Only problem is that they attach this proviso to that freedom: “..... as long as you do not expect me to ever agree with you, since I am right by default and you are wrong, also by default”. The only thing that can solve a dispute/disagreement/argument/etc is discussion/debate. Censure/banning serves no purpose except a false sense of achievement and subsequent chest beating by the one who instigated the censure/banning.
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
06 Jun 2019, 13:51
#29
06 Jun 2019, 13:51#29

No Denny ... unlike you, I do not need to call on support.

The issues that I have with Redneck are between him and I ... and besides, you fight like a girl.

If I wanted a bit of muscle I would most certainly not call on you. I expect my comrade in arms to stay the course and not duck for cover at the first sign of trouble.

I don't even know why you involved yourself in our affair. It had nothing to do with you.

Your name was used as a weapon. It wasn't an invitation to partake.

Oh, before I forget. It's been nicely pointed out how you stooped to the same level as me by bringing family in as a weapon ... and yet here you are lecturing me. How come??

Tell me something ... this principle you speak of ... "No Clean Cut I'm not defending him, I'm defending a principle" ... why does it apply to me but not to you? Your comments to him about his drunk dad crossed the line big time, don't you think? 

Are you seriously so stupid to think that this would not come out?

You are a cowardly hypocrite.

"Get off the family thing man, have a go at each other, say what you want to about me or anyone else but leave family out of it. I hate it with a passion."

It seems you're a liar too. You said some nasty things and correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds as though you enjoyed every word of it.

Let me remind you of what you said. You know, just to feel the tone of it and compare it to this principle you keep referring to. The same principle you are now defending. The same principle that prompted you to have me banned or at least suspended.

"Perhaps if your father wasn't a drunk and had spent some more time with your mother then just maybe she wouldn't have had the need to service the next door neighbor. Kills a coupla birds with one stone cause then you would have known your real father."
Ring a bell??
What were you thinking, Denny? Doesn't that go against everything you supposedly stand for?

"I'm critical of the fact that family is once again drawn into an arguement....fullstop" ... Oh really???

I think you owe him and I an apology.

In fact seeing as you were so bold as to bring your request for my suspension before us all, I think it's only fair that you confess your hypocrisy to the entire board. Before us all.
I'm waiting.



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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
06 Jun 2019, 13:51
#30
06 Jun 2019, 13:51#30

Moving a topic to a more appropriate section of the forum is not censure.

There's only one person squealing about deletions and bannings and no-one else has supported him.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
06 Jun 2019, 14:33
#31
06 Jun 2019, 14:33#31

“Posted by: Rooinek (8359 posts)

Jun 06, 2019, 13:51


Moving a topic to a more appropriate section of the forum is not censure.”

I have no issue at all with the idea of moving a topic to a more appropriate section. None at all. Denny has asked for CC’s post to be deleted. Check his opening post. That is censure. 

I am against deleting posts and banning people. And I am dead against hypocrisy. I would not even be against deleting posts where I am on the receiving end. I only draw the line at shit involving one’s family and exposing personal pictures and information. 

One of our members once insulted my late father. I called him out on it but I never demanded the post to be deleted. In fact, I would rather have the post remain there to be seen as an example of how despicable the person can be at times. 

About my reference to hypocrisy..... The fact that he calls for the topic to be moved is, in itself, pretty hypocritical. Our friend seems to have forgotten  what sparked Moz, and subsequently him also, leaving SS. It was actually an argument following a thread by Moz being moved from the Rugby section to the General section. 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
06 Jun 2019, 15:24
#32
06 Jun 2019, 15:24#32
"Denny has asked for CC’s post to be deleted. Check his opening post."
Duh-huh!
Who do you think I was referring to when I said "There's only one person squealing about deletions and bannings and no-one else has supported him."?
Huh? Seriously now, who do you think I was referring to when I said that?
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
06 Jun 2019, 15:47
#33
06 Jun 2019, 15:47#33

It's not a trick question Ceradunce, who did you think I was referring to?

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
06 Jun 2019, 15:50
#34
06 Jun 2019, 15:50#34

Denny ... still waiting ... will the apology be coming soon?

I hope it's as heartfelt as your plea was for my banning.


CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
06 Jun 2019, 15:53
#35
06 Jun 2019, 15:53#35
I think we have a misunderstanding here. In a nutshell: 1. I am against banning posters. 2. I am against censure, ie deleting, editing, etc of posts. 3. I have no issue over moving posts/topics to more appropriate sections. 4. I realise that the mushroom man is under discussion, hence my reference to his opening post where he (a) imposed himself onto the spat between CC and yourself and (b) called for CC’s post to be deleted, which is censure, and (c) called for the moving of the thread. 5. He has once again, referring to 4(c) above, displayed his sheer hypocrisy by calling for something exactly for which he, at some stage, threw his toys out of the cot for.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
06 Jun 2019, 16:01
#36
06 Jun 2019, 16:01#36
No misunderstanding, just answer my question. When I said "There's only one person squealing about deletions and bannings and no-one else has supported him", which poster did you think I was referring to?
I just need the name of a poster. No essay with numbering systems required. Thanks.
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sharkbokCaptain23,218 posts
06 Jun 2019, 16:22
#37
06 Jun 2019, 16:22#37
@Ceradunce,
Do you think that fascism should be censored?  Is that restricting freedom of speech and thought, or exercising the right to protect freedom of speech and thought. 
Do you understand that law is the balance of rights between people?  Someones freedom is limited to the freedom of others.
For example, you have freedom of movement and space. You can swing your arms around in open space, but not if you are right by someone else. This would be restricting their freedom of movement and space. 
The middle ground people usually do not have issues with some minor censorship - but the far left and far right do. 
Take Folau, no matter how many times someone tries to beat sense into him, he cannot understand that he is disrespecting other people with his list of people that are going to hell- and plastering this over social media. No one is saying he can't believe this, but why must he insist on telling everyone about this. Most people have been to Sunday school and are afay with these type of stories.
With the application of laws, no one is 100% sure all of the time. However, no form of censorship would allow fascists (far left or right) to trample the freedoms of others.


Ceradyne

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Jun 06, 2019, 13:38

Censure is just another form of fascism. It is my way or the highway. For them it is never a matter of “I don’t agree with you”. It is always a matter of “you don’t agree with me”.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
06 Jun 2019, 16:55
#38
06 Jun 2019, 16:55#38
“Posted by: Rooinek (8363 posts) Jun 06, 2019, 16:01 No misunderstanding, just answer my question. When I said "There's only one person squealing about deletions and bannings and no-one else has supported him", which poster did you think I was referring to?” Denny, aka the mushroom man. My post was actually in response to the other reactions on Denny’s call for posts to be deleted
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Jun 2019, 18:10
#39
06 Jun 2019, 18:10#39

Sharktwit what you have to understand is that the Eath is the Lord's and all that dwell therein. 

This is HIS world as he made it. Folau was absolutely correct to bring the Word of God to those in danger of judgment. God says what is right and what is wrong  not some whacked out nutjob who is a perv to boot. 

We all know homosexuality is a sick perversion. If you don't k ow that you are a homosexual yourself. The aversion to homosexuality is ingrained in normal men who find the whole thing puke inducing. 

If you don't feel that disgust you are undoubtedly overtly or latently homosexual.

Always remember sharktwit EVERY KNEE SHOW BOW  AND EVERY TONGUE WILL CONFESS THAT JESUS CHRIST IS LORD. That Sharktwit includes a rag ing God hater like you who is hell bound unless you come to genuine repentance. I sincerely hope you will be saved. 

God bless. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
06 Jun 2019, 18:12
#40
06 Jun 2019, 18:12#40

Can anybody provide an executive summary of all the hot air and BS  going on?

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