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Trump Promises Christians they will never have to vote again

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
28 Jul 2024, 17:03
#1
28 Jul 2024, 17:03#1

If Christians vote for Trump, he promises to send them to Heaven. 
Christians for Trump (+ Heaven).

As religion will play less role in deciding elections, the Christians no longer want to play along with Democracy. 

Trump's base is strongest among the lesser-educated Christian white working class, particularly those over the age of 50. He has rallied his base into a frenzy with conspiracies, such as the 2020 election fraud hoax. Trump is not a traditional conservative, except for his preference for paying little to no tax. 

In many countries, Christians have slipped into the minority, making them less significant in democratic elections. This trend is also occurring in the United States, albeit at a slower pace. People under 50 are increasingly less religious and not affiliated with any religion.

The strong support Trump enjoys among the lesser-educated, older Christian demographic highlights a significant divide within American society. This divide is not only ideological but also educational and generational. The reliance on conspiracy theories and misinformation to galvanize this base raises concerns about the impact on democratic processes and the integrity of elections.

As the country becomes less religious, political parties will need to adapt their strategies. The Republican Party, in particular, may face challenges in maintaining its current base while also appealing to a broader, more secular electorate. This evolution will require a delicate balance, as alienating the traditional base could result in losing a significant portion of the electorate while failing to attract younger, more diverse voters could hinder future electoral success.

In conclusion, as religion plays less role in deciding elections - the Christians no longer want to go along with Democracy

This is why they love Trump, he is not Democratic - he is not a Western Democratic style of leader (left or right), more like an Islamic ruler. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
28 Jul 2024, 19:03
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28 Jul 2024, 19:03#2

Go get help...your TDS is interfering with your normal life...not to mention the pesky Christians...off to the gas chambers with the lot of them!!! How dare they!!!

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
28 Jul 2024, 19:49
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28 Jul 2024, 19:49#3

What does this blithering idiot even mean when he says they won't have to vote again in 4 years time?

"It'll be fixed" he says. What does that mean? He'll cancel democracy? He'll make himself president for life? He'll nuke the planet so no-one will be around to vote?

Please can one of our Trumpanzees explain what Bozo means when he says Christians won't have to vote again in 4 years time because "it'll be fixed".

Thanks in anticipation.

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
28 Jul 2024, 22:20
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28 Jul 2024, 22:20#4


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Jul 2024, 04:08
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29 Jul 2024, 04:08#5

A classical Trump remark taken by the hysterical left to mean voting ie democracy will be ended. But he actually says:

‘ Trump added: “You’ve got to get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again, we’ll have it fixed so good you’re not going to have to vote.”


My interpretation is we need your votes this time….next time the country will be in such good shape voting will be optional for any group…continuation will be a formality.


So once again the hair on fire left goes nuts. Tedious, childish stuff.

It would be more constructive if they told us how they intend to deal with the economy, all the economically sensible mergers they have stopped, the border, the wars, Taiwan, the fragmentation of global understanding and the crime which is destroying America’s cities.

But I guess it’s easier to misinterpret Trump and play the lie.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
29 Jul 2024, 10:13
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29 Jul 2024, 10:13#6

"My interpretation is we need your votes this time….next time the country will be in such good shape voting will be optional for any group…continuation will be a formality.

So once again the hair on fire left goes nuts. Tedious, childish stuff."

It's actually getting beyond childish, you are being far too polite Moz.

Check below, the comparison bet ween both these specific speeches that are posted.... 

Typical Media

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
29 Jul 2024, 10:28
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29 Jul 2024, 10:28#7
The obvious question then is why wasn't it "fixed" the last time this bungling buffoon got the chance? What will be different this time? Bozo's last disastrous term ended with him being impeached twice and then losing to the weakest candidate (2md weakest I guess) of all time followed by all the truly pathetic squealing and lies about a rigged election.
Why would it be any different this time? Why were christian votes even required in 2020 or 2024?
"You won't have to vote anymore my beautiful Christians . . . I love you Christians . . . I'm a Christian . . . I love you . . . "
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
29 Jul 2024, 10:39
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29 Jul 2024, 10:39#8

"But I guess it’s easier to misinterpret Trump and play the lie"

Now I see Google is being accused of removing certain crtiteria or information regarding Trump from it's search and auto-complete processes.... with quite a few examples provided

Disturbing if true

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
29 Jul 2024, 11:03
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29 Jul 2024, 11:03#9
Given Trump tried to overturn the last election, it is hardly a leap of faith to assume he will do so again.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
29 Jul 2024, 11:03
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29 Jul 2024, 11:03#10

Soap operas and distractions.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
29 Jul 2024, 11:06
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29 Jul 2024, 11:06#11

Yep

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
29 Jul 2024, 11:07
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29 Jul 2024, 11:07#12



Mozart

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Jul 29, 2024, 04:08

It would be more constructive if they told us how they intend to deal with the economy, all the economically sensible mergers they have stopped

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Competitor mergers are rarely ever sensible.
Reduced competition just creates Oligarchs, with richer shareholders.
It decreases demand for jobs, and ships more jobs to low-cost countries.

American society is being torn apart by corporate mergers, where the rich piggies get richer at everyone else's expense



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Jul 2024, 12:56
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29 Jul 2024, 12:56#13

This is typical BS from the Trump-haters.  What he said in the case the Democrats win his ime - here would be no demcoacy left to vote for in 2028.   The present regime did many unconstitutional things and was knocked down on most by the Supreme Court - so the solution would be the  Supreme Court number of Judges to 15 and approve dummies to ensure the Court allows the Constitution to be undermined and their will be nothing left of the Constituion by 2029.

All the recent Court rulings are based on the separation of powers and that the elected representatives of the people must provide the legisation governing  the Country and that administrative legislation in he forms of mandates and burueaucraic regulations impinge on the rule by the Executive and bureaucracy is abusing the principe. of Separation  of Powers principle - a key foundation of Democracy.

The Democrats is in alliance with the bureaucracy and they rule the country accordngly - while legislative control over illegalities ar brushed under the carpet by the Democratic politicins.  Bureaucracy is the key of operating dictatorships and a real curse on mankind  in the absence of proper control.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
29 Jul 2024, 13:22
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29 Jul 2024, 13:22#14

I always wonder why a buffoon like Sharktwit loves to make a jackass of himself on a daily basis.

The Demonrats have done all they can to destroy elections. 

Rampant fraud

Rampant censorship by Big tech and Globalist media.

Demonrats don't want voter ID and signatures. 

They don't want single day voting. 

Demonrats  want  fraud enabling mail in Ballots.

They want the fraud enabling Dominium voting machines. 

They import illegal aliens wanting them to vote. 

Now they disenfranchised 14 million Demonrats voters who voted for Biden in tbe primaries. 

They impose on the demonrat voter somebody who never won a single delegate! 

Be assured these serial cheats will cheat in November. They are such scum they are capable of anything, even murder of their opponent. 



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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
29 Jul 2024, 13:58
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29 Jul 2024, 13:58#15

Christians should not be allowed to vote. They are not sane people sharing the same reality of mainstream society. 

We are witnessing their last stand, the mutants of society



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Jul 2024, 14:00
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29 Jul 2024, 14:00#16
Most mergers are predicated on efficiencies that lead to lower prices,  new investment and new products. The consumer benefits. The downside is sometimes closed plants which can adversely affect small towns. But where this occurs it’s mostly just a pull forward of the inevitable.
Under most administrations this has been an orderly process with well established rules. Under Biden it’s been inscrutable and chaotic.
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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
29 Jul 2024, 14:13
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29 Jul 2024, 14:13#17

Is that your opinion (as a shareholder) or can you use established economic theory to substantiate?

Type into Google or Chat GPT - The advantages of competition in capitalism. 
Capitalism without strong competition, is just optimising for stock share value - not for the Democratic interests of society.

Look at the merger of Microsoft and Activision. The first thing they did after the merger was announce a job cut of 10% of staff- mostly in the US.

Then in about 1 year, we can expect a price increase because buyers have reduced choices. 
Then in another 1 year, another 10% of employees will get laid off.

But wait, Sharevalue has increased for Microsoft shareholders. 

America, once known as the best Democracy in the world is now in tatters as a society.
Sure the stock market looks great - especially after mergers. The bottom line is that most people are worse off than before the rise of these globalist American companies.

If America broke up all the monopolies, or oligopolies - it would benefit their society. The stock market is only one measure of success.

China's stock market is not great, but they are investing more back into their economy- instead of just being a piggy bank for the Oligarchs in America. They dont just have profit motives (or motives to be make the Oligarchs richer). 

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Jul 2024, 14:42
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29 Jul 2024, 14:42#18

I can substantiate this on the basis of personal experience.

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
29 Jul 2024, 14:59
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29 Jul 2024, 14:59#19
Still, it is only one person's subjective opinion or experience, and most people leading mergers benefit financially from their occurrence.
The body of knowledge in economics is a far more reliable indicator of what is in the best interests of democratic capitalism.

Why is America so torn and polarized as a society? It is not a coincidence it is happening at the same time as the American Oligarchs destroying Democracy. 
Corporate mergers are a form of authoritarianism—they destroy competition and freedom of choice. The market should decide marketshare, not the supplier.

It is akin to one media company buying all other media companies to create a monopoly on truth.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Jul 2024, 15:04
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29 Jul 2024, 15:04#20

Here’s an example of one of the supposed monopolies:

Employees at Google in 2010…24000

Employees at Google in 2024…182500.

It’s been a magnificent place to work and been part of massive advances for society. Sure the founders have made obscene amounts of money. But for every one of these guys there are a 100 who fail and lose their investment. 

As for your assessment of China vs the US, they are both successful economies, but very different. China is protected by low cost producer status in many products….but that role means costs have to be fanatically controlled. It suits a regimented society.

The US is the ultimate example of Schumpeter’s destructive capitalism:

‘ Schumpeter characterized creative destruction as innovations in the manufacturing process that increase productivity, describing it as the "process of industrial mutation that incessantly revolutionizes the economic structure from within, incessantly destroying the old one, incessantly creating a new one."’

Nothing is sacrosanct….for example northern cities, NY excepted, are withering, Southern cities like Miami are booming. Citadel, one of the most successful hedge funds took all its high paying jobs from Chicago and gave them to Miami. And some think Pritzker who negotiated this disaster for Illinois is a viable VP candidate.

Europe is moribund and some  of Germany’s key industries are under competitive threat…it’s hard to survive as a machine shop. Perhaps India will eventually challenge China, but I doubt it.

Whatever, the US will continue to lead via change and mergers are an important part of the process.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
29 Jul 2024, 15:04
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29 Jul 2024, 15:04#21

Sharktwit 2.4 billion people go under the Christian Banner. A mere 400 million "fools" are atheist.

Never mind other others who believe in God.

You are a whacked out insane minority. Bwahahahaha. 


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
29 Jul 2024, 15:12
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29 Jul 2024, 15:12#22

The economies of Western Nation states are being DELIBERATELY destroyed by Globalist. Western Civilization must be destroyed before the NWO can be implemented said that arch Open Border Globalist operative George Soros.

These big Corporates are part of the Globalist power base together with their media, Hollywood and much of academia.

When they also control government you get the disaster we see unf olding. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
29 Jul 2024, 15:32
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29 Jul 2024, 15:32#23
It could be argued that the innovation that is happening in America is from people who are a product of the old Democratic America, rather than the current Oligarchy economic authoritarian America. 

Google has grown through acquisition, but so could these companies have grown anyway without being acquired. Google acquired Deep Mind who could potentially have made an equivalent to Chat GPT ages ago. Some acquisitions by Google are just to destroy new competitors. 

Facebook acquired Instagram just before mobile devices overtook desktops. So while Instagram has grown - all social media platforms have grown since mobile became the main device to access the internet and video is much faster than it used to be on mobile.
Microsoft/Activision has not increased the US GDP. All it has done is shift more of it to Microsoft to ensure that power and wealth is keep in as few hands as possible.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Jul 2024, 15:54
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29 Jul 2024, 15:54#24

Conspiracy on the left, conspiracy on the right….sanity in the middle.

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
29 Jul 2024, 17:14
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29 Jul 2024, 17:14#25

Most people would prefer more competition than fewer competitors, so should this not be classified as the centre? 

How many people supported the merger of Microsoft and Activision? 
This is just undermining competition to maximise share value.  

If people voted on this, it would be hard to believe that at least 50% of people would support this.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Jul 2024, 17:40
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29 Jul 2024, 17:40#26

These things are done via rules, a popular vote is thankfully not the standard. The Justice  dept or FTC looks at the economic effects, paying most attention to possible reduction in competition.

They have their economists. The acquiring company hires its economist and a legal team, often comprised of prior FTC or DOJ lawyers. The opinion of these experienced experts is sought early in the process. Many deals never see the light of day because that opinion is negative.

If things move forward the DOJ may or may not challenge the merger. If they do the company or the DOJ will suggest remedies.

More economic modeling follows to see if the remedies work…they often require divestiture of competing subsidiaries. The parties are trying to find solutions.

This is the customary process which varies according to the Administration involved. But it’s usually not political and has worked quite well. Biden’s team is academic and inexperienced. The process has become much less transparent.

Meanwhile competition is much more global, very few companies can raise prices without market reaction. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
29 Jul 2024, 18:12
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29 Jul 2024, 18:12#27
What I am seeing is America turn into an Oligarchy, while the rest of American society is on average worse of now than 20 years ago. 

So we can talk theory for hours, but what I see in practise is the richest people are making the choices to do aquisitions. I cant see Democratic interests being considered, no one wants the Oligarchy cabal pulling the strings from behind the scenes.

Trump cited a riot at Jan 6th, but he never created the dissatisfaction in American society. 
Solve the economic problems, and many social conflict will just disappear .
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
29 Jul 2024, 19:21
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29 Jul 2024, 19:21#28

Inflation under Biden is the main reason people are dissatisfied. That occurred because, insanely, he was still pumping money into people’s pockets when the Fed was starting to contract the money supply. Both the administration and the Fed with its 500 economists miscalculated on inflation and were slow to react because they were acting politically. There’s the proximate source of the discontent.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
29 Jul 2024, 20:21
#29
29 Jul 2024, 20:21#29

SB

You have a poit that is the essence of most problems the people have in the USA and why 72% of te people said he Biden economc  policies is a disaster for them,   The issue is quite clear.   Th ultra-rich wants total control of the US and they have advance substantially.   

They use two methods  to control the USA:-

   *  They took over cotrol of the Democratic Party; and

   *   They use the media to influence people on all issues - easy snce they own or effecively control thee media componies.

I will give you a personal example as to 1 above - the moment they told the media they would not fund the election expenses of the DP, Biden was gone.   

I can gove you two examples what happened uder Biden

*     Soros compiled the mandates about the Open Border Policies of Biden - as well as the Law and  Order poicy as well.   His prganization wrote out the poiciws to be applied woth lawyers whose election promisses.being in line with the control of the Justoce Deppartment.      According to the WH Entry Log Soros has meetings with WH staff and reprsentatives of the Justice Department and Hom,eland Securty Deprtmnt to deal with implmentation of the policies hiis father wanted done.   

*      The Secretary of Energy meets at least once a month with Bill Gates to deal wih issues relating to Global Warming.and ensure his poliies are implemente,  

 That is why the pick Biden in 2020 as DP candidate and he was their dummy to perfection. and they would have used him as long as he can executes their policies,  However, the media has lied for years about his mental issues and either hide them or deny them when video's came out showing that Biden was incapable of being President .   It was only during the debate the decay waa clear and could not be denied anymore,   The person they picked in 2020 was Harris - so she will have to take over from Biden earlier than they had in mind. 

That is why the DP should not be allowed to remain in control in fitire.  If they are by 2038 there would be nothing of Democracy left in the USA.                     

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
30 Jul 2024, 18:29
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30 Jul 2024, 18:29#30

The plan to destroy America has been going on for many years. 

However under the Kenyan Muslim Globalist puppet Obummer things really acceletated. The debt doubled from 10 to 20 trillion.

Obummer embedded  his Marxist Globalist operatives throughout the executive branch and particularly the intelligence agencies and DOJ.

The Globalist stepped up their assault on the American Public via their fake news media and via academia and Hollywood. 

The American working and middle class were not doing well. 

Then the Trump miracle happened. The economy boomed, real wages climbed and employment reached record levels. The national debt reached a point where is was not increasing. 

Something had to be done to stop all this winning. So the Plandemic was cooked up. Trillions of debt was incurred to provide locked up people with an income although lockdowns are totally ineffective against a coronavirus. Ditto masks and social distancing.

Trump tried to get the economy opened but was resisted by demonrat Governors. 

So many small and medium sized businesses were wiped out as the large Globalist Corporates thrived. 

A rigged election saw Biden installed and things got worse. 

His handlers opened the borders on day one. Oil production was attacked and spending happened like there was no tomorrow.

Having had no new wars started while Trump in office the Ukraine war was instigated to get the Kickbacks and money laundering going. Well positioned investors in companies like Raytheon made a killing.

Soros funded judges released murderers, rapists and drug cartel members back onto the streets. 

15 to 20 million invaders, very largely young men entered into America. Billions were spent on funding the invaders before the American people. Real wages due to over supply deteriorated while inflation also hurt the working and middle class. 

To add insult to injury billions were spent defending Ukrsine"s border while the Southern Border remained open. Planes were used to fly in migrants.

So today the ordinary American lives in a  country with crippling debt 35 trillion and rising all the time. A country where living standards are in decline and the school system is collapsing. 

Security for those in the demonrat controlled cities is a huge problem. 

The threat of World War 3 gets ever closer. 

Moral degradation is everywhere.,poo on the streets as well as drug needs. Human traffickers of woman and children are making billions. Tens of thousands of children are missing.

Nobidy knows how many terrorists and Jihadists have entered the US and are getting ready to strike. Fentsnyl is the biggest killer of young people. 

All this is deliberate. Joe is tbe fall guy who because of his apparent Dementia will not face Justice. Demonrats elites will not install far left Marxist Globalist Harris who is worse than Biden but like Biden will follow orders. IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO ARE PULLING THE STRINGS THAT ARE THE PROBLEM. A SMALL GROUP OF SUPER WEALTHY GLOBALISTS

EUROPE FACES THE SAME PROBLEMS. 

The real struggle is not so much between Republicans and Demonrats. It's between Nationalts/Populists and Uniparty Globalists. The Demonrats could never have destroyed America to the extent they have without their Republican Globalist Uniparty colleagues. 

God help us all if the 2024 Election is again rigged to Elect Harris or whoever they finally install. Harris is likely to fade fast so they may toss her out. Apart from that only murdering Trump is the other option. 



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
30 Jul 2024, 20:03
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30 Jul 2024, 20:03#31

At last HasBeen begins to realize Trump might not win. But if anybody expressed any reservations a few weeks ago, they were globalist Satanic scumbags.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
30 Jul 2024, 20:31
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30 Jul 2024, 20:31#32
"....they were globalist Satanic scumbags..."Actually useful brainwashed idiots...Donald, warts and all, was still 100% better than any POTUS since Reagan...if it wasn't for the perceived/ projected/media created horse sh!t devisive nonsense, he's the best this century...his record is clear, yet ignored...emphasis is placed on his rough edges...well, sheeple wil sheep...even the normies thinking they are sharper than the rest...like Ron White said, "You can't fix stupid...it's forever!!!"

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sharkbokCaptain23,196 posts
31 Jul 2024, 01:39
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31 Jul 2024, 01:39#33

Chat GPT Opines...

What are your comments about this statement:

""" Most mergers are predicated on efficiencies that lead to lower prices, new investment and new products. The consumer benefits. """
ChatGPT

The statement that most mergers are predicated on efficiencies leading to lower prices, new investment, and new products, which ultimately benefit the consumer, is rooted in economic theory but is nuanced in practice.

From a theoretical perspective, the idea holds that by combining resources, companies can achieve greater efficiencies through economies of scale, reduced costs, and enhanced capabilities for innovation. This could theoretically lead to lower prices for consumers, increased product variety, and more robust investment in new technologies and services.

However, the real-world outcomes of mergers often depend on various factors:

  1. Market Power: Mergers in industries with few competitors can strengthen market power for the combined entity, potentially leading to higher prices and less consumer choice.
  2. Cost Efficiencies: While mergers aim to reduce costs through streamlined operations, these savings are not always passed on to consumers.
  3. Innovation: There's a dual argument that while some mergers can increase resources for innovation, others might reduce the incentive to innovate due to decreased competition.
  4. Regulatory Environment: The impact of mergers largely depends on the strength of regulatory frameworks in place to ensure that the efficiencies gained from mergers are indeed transferred to consumers.

In practice, the consumer benefits of mergers are highly contingent on the specifics of the merger, the industry's competitive landscape, and regulatory oversight. Therefore, while the statement has its merits in theory, the actual benefits to consumers can vary significantly.


America has been the flagship of Democracy. However, it seems there is an elite forming due to reduced competition. ChatGPT

The concern about an emerging elite due to reduced competition in America touches on significant issues related to economic concentration and its impact on democratic values. Here are a few aspects to consider:

  1. Economic Concentration: In several industries, the U.S. has seen a trend towards greater consolidation, where fewer companies hold increasing market shares. This consolidation can limit competition, leading to higher barriers to entry for new players and potentially higher prices for consumers. Over time, such concentration can accrue significant political and economic power to a small number of firms and individuals, which can influence public policy and economic outcomes in ways that might not align with the broader public interest.

  2. Impact on Democracy: The intersection of economic power and political influence is a critical concern for democratic governance. When a small elite accumulates significant economic power, they can also gain disproportionate political influence through lobbying, campaign contributions, and other means. This can lead to policies that favor these elites at the expense of wider economic equality and democratic fairness.

  3. Regulatory Response: The role of government regulation in curbing these trends is pivotal. Effective antitrust enforcement and regulatory policies are crucial to ensuring that markets remain competitive and that economic power does not translate unchecked into political power. These regulations need to be robust and adaptive to the changing economic landscape to prevent the formation of monopolies or oligopolies that can harm consumer interests and democratic processes.

  4. Broader Social Implications: Beyond economics, there's a broader debate about the social implications of a rising elite. This includes discussions on inequality, social mobility, and the potential for disenfranchisement of certain groups within society. The perception that "the system" increasingly serves a small, elite group can undermine trust in democratic institutions and processes.

Overall, while America champions democratic ideals, the interplay between economic practices and democratic health is complex and requires vigilant oversight and active policy intervention to maintain a balance that supports both economic vitality and democratic integrity.

Would reversing mergers and acquisitions to create more competition improve American societyChatGPT

Reversing mergers and acquisitions (M&As) to foster more competition could potentially yield several benefits for American society, but it also involves complex challenges and considerations:

Benefits

  1. Increased Competition: Breaking up large conglomerates can lead to increased competition, which often drives innovation, improves services, and lowers prices for consumers. Smaller, more nimble companies may be more inclined to innovate to gain market share.

  2. Reduced Market Concentration: Fragmenting large corporations can decrease market concentration, which helps prevent the dominance of a few firms over an entire sector. This can lead to a more equitable distribution of economic power and opportunities.

  3. Enhanced Consumer Choice: More competitors in the market typically mean more choices for consumers, not just in terms of products and services but also in terms of price points and quality levels.

  4. Job Creation: Smaller firms are often significant sources of job creation. Increased entrepreneurial activity and new business formation could follow from a more fragmented market structure.

Challenges

  1. Economic Disruption: Reversing M&As can be disruptive. Companies that have integrated operations would have to separate assets, personnel, and operations, which can be costly and time-consuming. This could lead to short-term job losses and economic instability.

  2. Legal and Regulatory Complexity: There would be significant legal challenges involved in unwinding mergers that were previously approved. This could involve protracted legal battles and substantial costs.

  3. International Competitiveness: Larger companies often argue that size is necessary to compete on a global scale. Breaking up large U.S. corporations might disadvantage them against large international competitors, particularly in industries like technology and pharmaceuticals where scale can be crucial for R&D and global distribution.

  4. Unintended Consequences: The process could inadvertently harm industries that benefit from economies of scale, where larger operations lead to more efficient production and lower prices for consumers.

Strategic Considerations

To effectively use demerger as a tool to improve society, policymakers need to carefully select targets where market concentration clearly harms consumer interests and stifles competition. This approach must be balanced with supportive measures to ensure economic stability and to foster a competitive yet fair market environment. Additionally, enhancing and enforcing existing antitrust regulations may sometimes be a more practical approach than reversing past mergers.

In conclusion, while there's potential for reversing certain mergers to improve competition and thereby benefit society, it's a complex strategy that requires meticulous planning, robust legal frameworks, and careful consideration of economic impacts.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
31 Jul 2024, 04:23
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31 Jul 2024, 04:23#34

Think about it this way….the acquiring company has to pay a substantial premium to the market price to make the acquisition. And the CEO is on the hook to make economic sense of paying the premium. Inevitably that includes efficiciencies leading to lower costs and synergies in  distribution, eg providing existing products wider distribution, sharing R&D and leveraging customer relationships.

Any changes to pricing will be constrained  by 2 players….the regulators and more importantly the customer. For example for grocery manufacturers getting a price increase through supermarket chains without a general inflation argument or specific cost increases is tough….and merged product lines are carefully tracked.

These are all reasonable theoretical arguments, but in practice better products with wider distribution and competitive pricing are closer to reality.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
07 Aug 2024, 21:34
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07 Aug 2024, 21:34#35

Makes sense ........................

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