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Quinton de Kock, older wiser, and chilled

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
14 Sept 2021, 07:37
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14 Sept 2021, 07:37#1

Quinton de Kock remains young at heart, but he’s getting old, and that’s okay, he’s “chilled” about it.

He’s also going to be a father, a prospect that neither frightens him nor causes much excitement – for now. “Very, very chilled, (there’s) still a long time to go,” he said about the prospect of fatherhood, along with wife, Sasha. “I’m still pretty easy, life still carries on for me. I’m not the one carrying the baby. Chilled, not nervous, not excited, or anything yet. It’s still a long time.”

Fatherhood awaits, but he’s already something of a father figure within the Proteas squad. Which is weird, because he still carries the baby face – notwithstanding the tufts of hair around his chin – wears a cheeky grin and appears to play in the same insouciant manner as when he started his international career as a 20 year old.

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“In the cricketing world I’m still, like, a youngster. But because of the nature of the team, a 28 year old is quite a senior in this team,” he said. In fact after David Miller, with 347, De Kock has played the next highest number of T20 matches in the South African squad – 227.

“There are a lot of new guys, guys who haven’t played a lot of T20 cricket, guys still learning their own game. A few years ago a 28 year old was a youngster in the team, surrounded by AB (de Villiers), Graeme (Smith) and those guys. Now it's the other way around. I’m chilled about it. I’m still 28, still very young in this game, still have a lot to learn and a lot to achieve in this game. I am 21 in my own heart, forever,” he chirped.

De Kock, after enduring a troubling year adjusting to the demands of working, living, training and playing while in bio-secure environments – which led to him taking a break from the sport – has shown a renewed appetite for the game and making runs in the last few months.

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He was the star of the West Indies tour, where South Africa won the Test and T20 series and having missed the ODIs, while completing a stint in The Hundred tournament, he has made important runs – including a 10th T20 International half-century in the second match – as South Africa claimed an unassailable 2-0 lead in the T20 series against Sri Lanka.

“I wish that what I know now, I knew when I was 21 or 22,” said De Kock, sounding older than 28. “I’m learning from past mistakes and experiences… I just want to score runs I guess. I’m now seen as one of the leaders in the batting line-up and I just have to hold on to that and be the best batsmen I can be.”

As he’s done so, his teammates have gradually come to terms with how to play on spinning surfaces, a critical aspect heading into a World Cup that it is anticipated will be played on slow, dry surfaces. “The guys have worked really hard and we are starting to see (good) signs. Especially to do it against Sri Lanka in their own conditions... all the batsmen have improved, they really showed a lot of people how to play spin.”

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De Kock is heading to his sixth ICC tournament at the T20 World Cup, and like impending fatherhood, he isn’t spending much time worrying about what’s to come. “I’m pretty chilled right now, it's still a month away,” he said.

“When it comes together at the World Cup, I’ll be excited for it. I’ll definitely be ready for it. My hunger to win a World Cup is always up there, especially with this team. I have a great feeling about this team, we are heading in the right direction.”


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Sept 2021, 08:48
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14 Sept 2021, 08:48#2

According to our most - in his own mind - celebrated member  - De Kock is a shit player who  should be replaced by Klaasen.    So wait for his response  to this one..  .   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Sept 2021, 03:35
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16 Sept 2021, 03:35#3
Very admirable….he’s chilled.
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ChippoPro3,372 posts
16 Sept 2021, 10:36
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16 Sept 2021, 10:36#4
Never seen de Kock and Wise in the same sentence before.Chilled maybe...
What a great player he is.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
16 Sept 2021, 13:05
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16 Sept 2021, 13:05#5

Not sure if he's a great player but I have no hesitation in saying he's a good player and you might think he's dumb, for mine I really don't care as long as he does what he's selected to do and that is to put runs on the board......which he does.

Go Quinnie you good thing!

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 Sept 2021, 13:17
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16 Sept 2021, 13:17#6
His main problem is that he performs better when he’s not the best bat in the side. Something Markram was supposed to balance out. Unfortunately, Markram seems destined to bat at four or five so it’s a case of waiting for a real #3 to emerge and cement his place. It’s just so weird. We have a world class top 6 but we can’t seem to string together a series of good batting performances in anything longer than a t20 match. TBH, I don’t envy the selectors and coaches right now. They’re making solid choices but just getting let down at every turn by the batters.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
16 Sept 2021, 13:21
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16 Sept 2021, 13:21#7

"We have a world class top 6...." 

Really? You can't be serious.

"They’re making solid choices but just getting let down at every turn by the batters."

Really?? How then do you explain the non selection of Janneman Malan?


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 Sept 2021, 13:29
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16 Sept 2021, 13:29#8
Can you think of a reason why they might not be showing him off? Think macro picture…
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
16 Sept 2021, 13:33
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16 Sept 2021, 13:33#9

Answer the questions.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 Sept 2021, 13:36
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16 Sept 2021, 13:36#10
I am/will. However, can you think of any reason why they’re not selecting one the best, potentially the actual best, younger batters right now?
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
16 Sept 2021, 13:40
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16 Sept 2021, 13:40#11

"I am/will."

Then go ahead,....what's holding you back.....I'm waiting.

Name the World Class top 6 and tell me why Janneman Malan has not been selected for the T20 WC


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
16 Sept 2021, 13:50
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16 Sept 2021, 13:50#12

HeHeHe......Hellllllllooooooooooooooo.........

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 Sept 2021, 13:52
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16 Sept 2021, 13:52#13
I gave you a clue, Denny. Macro strategy. Why provide opposition recent footage of our best young bat’s current technique? A potential tournament winner type bat. When you’re this close to a major competition… His ability and form aren’t in question by anybody. Literally nobody. If you really think that Boucher, Smith or anyone else in SA’s camp doesn’t know how good he is, you’re simply wrong. Now, I’m not saying that the above is necessarily the case. It’s just plausible and I wonder if you consider these types of scenarios?
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 Sept 2021, 13:58
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16 Sept 2021, 13:58#14
Wait, haha, Malan hasn’t been selected? You gotta be kidding?
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 Sept 2021, 14:02
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16 Sept 2021, 14:02#15
Oh fuck me!!! I just checked the squad! Haha that is nuts. No idea why he hasn’t been selected, Denny! To be fair, I didn’t even know that the squad had been released already.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 Sept 2021, 14:07
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16 Sept 2021, 14:07#16
I’d certainly swap Klaasen and Rassie for Rickleton and Malan. No question. My top six would be…. Quintie Rickleton Reeza Markram Malan Verrynne That is as world class as it gets.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
16 Sept 2021, 14:07
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16 Sept 2021, 14:07#17

Waffle waffle waffle.....you're talking shit.

I don't need your clues, I don't need your scenarios......I've asked you to answer 2 questions based on the statements you've made.

Obviously you cant answer them because you've made a total DIK of yourself.

The Proteas don't have a World Class top 6 and truth be told Boucher is as I have often said......  clueless.

There...I've helped you......no need to thank me.

How on earth you can think of Reeza Hendricks as being world class is unimag inable.


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 Sept 2021, 14:17
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16 Sept 2021, 14:17#18
Haha Tante I answered your questions quite fully. Calm down now. I know it’s tough when you don’t often “win”.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
16 Sept 2021, 14:33
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16 Sept 2021, 14:33#19

Good try..you didn't answer my questions....

Truth is you mouthed off, made a total fool of yourself  then realised you did ......U turned and tried to fob the whole thing off on the selectors.

You're struggling to redeem yourself after that fat lip of yours got the better of you again ...here..

"Quintie Rickleton Reeza Markram Malan Verrynne

That is as world class as it gets."





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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 Sept 2021, 14:41
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16 Sept 2021, 14:41#20
You’re welcome to tell me what you don’t like about any of the guys you don’t think are world class. I’m guessing that won’t be forthcoming? It never is
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
16 Sept 2021, 14:55
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16 Sept 2021, 14:55#21

You say you've played the game....hard to believe.

I don't want to embarrass you anymore, it's bad enough that you do that to yourself.

Here, let me help you again.......

Cricket, I hope you understand is a stats game...why don't you go and have a look at the "world class percentages" of the players that I haven't ruled out Hmmmm?

Two of them for example are yet to play T20 international cricket so how the hell are they world class?

Now stay down, don't dig yourself a deeper hole. 

Best you just swallow your pride.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 Sept 2021, 18:13
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16 Sept 2021, 18:13#22
Ok, so not even gonna give us a hint as to what about Reeza’s technique and ability is not world class? The floor is yours… Should be easy, I mean, if you’re that adamant.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
16 Sept 2021, 18:26
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16 Sept 2021, 18:26#23
Don’t talk stats to me either, you tit. You’re the guy that posted some BS about Lara or Tendulakar. Haha…stats!
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
17 Sept 2021, 12:07
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17 Sept 2021, 12:07#24
Tante…where’d you run to? I was hoping for a discussion on Reeza’s technique? Just be honest and say that you don’t have a clue and would be hopelessly out of your depth in assessing, even at a superficial level, anyone’s batting technique. I answered your questions fully. Literally gave you my top six, which I’d use in all three formats BTW. I also provided a speculative answer as to why Malan hadn’t been selected recently. Granted, the t20 squad having already been selected did slip under my radar. And here I am bud, now waiting for you to back up your statements with some insight. As usual, the board’s arch coward thinks of any excuse to hide her lack of knowledge of the game. No doubt your response will be(take your pick) *I'm done debating you *my ever-so-clever insights will be lost on you. *you’re a waste of time *I've already told you that stats stats stats Anything to avoid clarifying your statement. Come to think of it, out of all of the many cricket posts you’ve made…you’ve never offered anything that I can remember in the way of an analysis of batting or bowling. Haha #BetaLife
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
24 Sept 2021, 12:16
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24 Sept 2021, 12:16#25
I see that the world’s premier beta still refuses to regale us with his master class on Reeza’s technique. Haha
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
27 Sept 2021, 08:47
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27 Sept 2021, 08:47#26

Holymolli.....posting to yourself now Huh? Geeeez 4 in a row!!! 

Desperate for my opinion Huh? Well, you might have noticed I'm not desperate for yours.

Here, let me school you again......the Oxford dictionary's definition of World Class

"as good as the best in the world"

here's another.....

  1. (of a person, thing, or activity) of or among the best in the world."a world-class player" · [more]
  2. Get it now?

  3.  I doubt it. 
Let me school you again......Rickleton has not played at an international level, he needed to be on par with the best in the world to make that comparison. Your statement that he is "World Class" is utter BS.
The same can be said of Verryenne.......he has played international cricket but he hasn't played any T20 cricket and going by his stats in the format that he's played there's nothing to suggest that he is World Class.
Clearly you don't have a clue as to the meaning of "World Class"
As for your pinup boy Reeza Hendricks????
At 32 years and 4 months what is his claim to being World Class? At close to retirement age he has yet to play Test cricket.....does that tell you something??? I doubt it. 
But here's the thing.......you say you would drop Rassie van der Dussen to include the "World Class" Hendricks. Hendricks and Rassie are of the same age.
Suck on this...
Rassie van der DussenBatsman
  • Batting
  • Bowling
  • Fielding
Career Batting StatsRight Handed BatsmanFormatMInnNORAvgBFSRHS50s100s200sTest2019-1017161038.13141343.1798600ODI2019-29237104965.56122285.84123*910T20I2018-2926575636.00561134.7674*500
************************************************Reeza HendricksBatsman
  • Batting
  • Bowling
  • Fielding
Career Batting StatsRight Handed BatsmanFormatMInnNORAvgBFSRHS50s100s200sODI2018-2323255926.6272677.00102310T20I2014-3636199328.37808122.9074700

"Quintie Rickleton Reeza Markram Malan Verrynne

That is as world class as it gets."

Begone with you Tosser.



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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
01 Oct 2021, 09:44
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01 Oct 2021, 09:44#27
Aaaaaaah ok…now I see. Nobody is considered world class until they play international games. Are you for real with this nonsense? You telling me that (pick any cricketing great in any format) couldn’t be spoken of as being world class before they represented their country? Lol, Tante. Perhaps you should consider your premise before you storm out of the gates with it. I always considered you a bitchy and cowardly little wanker but now I’m strongly considering adding stupid to the list. Haha imaging watching a 16 year old Tendulkar hitting double hundreds against men’s teams and telling people you think he’s world class…and then Denny says “He’s not world class and shouldn’t be in the team because he has not yet been in the team.” Stop hanging around VisKop…you’re becoming a plank.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Oct 2021, 09:53
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01 Oct 2021, 09:53#28

Stop hanging around VisKop…you’re becoming a plank.

Good to see you resurface after what must have been a busy time...it's ok we understand...

Hang in there with Reeza.....a 28% average is world class huh?


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Oct 2021, 09:56
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01 Oct 2021, 09:56#29


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
01 Oct 2021, 10:35
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01 Oct 2021, 10:35#30
Is wasn’t that busy a time. I just get bored of pulling the fairy wings off of cowardly little flies. Still not a peep about Reeza’s technique, huh? Haha why don’t you just admit that you’d be way out of your depth. No? How about you re-post any post that you have ever made which shows you have some knowledge of either bowling or batting? Oh, wait…there is no such post.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
01 Oct 2021, 10:48
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01 Oct 2021, 10:48#31

"I would drop Rassie van der Dussen who averages 38% for world class 28% Reeza."

Here.... this must be you ...an egg magnet to the point of tears




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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
01 Oct 2021, 13:17
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01 Oct 2021, 13:17#32
So…no link today a post then? Cumon, it should be easy. I’m sure you’ve regaled the board countless times on the inner workings of some aspect of cricket? Gimmie just one…
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
04 Oct 2021, 09:34
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04 Oct 2021, 09:34#33
Wow, it sure is taking a long time to find that link…Tannie
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
06 Oct 2021, 04:54
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06 Oct 2021, 04:54#34

Actually to satisfy your angst I did try and find a couple I posted re batting and bowling, one was about De Kock and the other was about Dale Steyn after he announced his retirement. Those posts for whatever reason are not in the archives. 

Anyway, this issue is about you, not me. I simply asked you two questions and from thereon in you decided to embarrass yourself. Your face saving attacks are just feeble attempts to divert from the main argument. 

Allow me to help you. You're not the first and only one to have embarrassed yourself on this forum, it's happened to me and everyone else....that's not the problem. The problem gets out of hand when you continue to argue a dumb point instead of eating humble pie by pulling your head in and biting  your fat lip. You've succeeded in falling into a bottomless hole but it didn't stop there you've also managed to land yourself in quicksand.  Your problem is with the Oxford Dictionary not me and you are delusional for believing you're a cricket Guru, non of us are. Upper cutting yourself, venting your frustrations and cursing yourself only adds to your misery.

Here once again, the dictionary meaning of "World Class".....

  1. (of a person, thing, or activity) of or among the best in the world."a world-class player" · [more]
  2. Rickleton for example has yet to play in any form of international cricket so how the hell is he "world class"

  3. Feeling just a wee bit foolish now? Hmmmmm?

  4. Consider my response a favour. No need to thank me, I live to give.

  5. Over and out,


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
06 Oct 2021, 09:25
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06 Oct 2021, 09:25#35
Yes, Denny All I hear is “…beep beep cowardly garble beep beep.” You took all the time to post the above and yet you have zero time to give us even a cursory evaluation of Reeza’s technique. Haha would you like some help?
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
06 Oct 2021, 10:32
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06 Oct 2021, 10:32#36

The topic you blithering Buffoon was never ever about Reeza's technique.......that was just your sneaky way of deflecting the argument. Good try. Bwhahahahaa

You've had two goes at selecting a so called "That is as world class as it gets."

Don't further embarrass yourself with a third.

And while you're dealing with it define "World Class"

We wait with bated breath.




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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
11 Oct 2021, 09:50
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11 Oct 2021, 09:50#37
Well, it kinda turned into being about the technique and ability of the guys that I stated are world class with you disagreeing on grounds which I both shown to be fallacious. I’ve offered you the opportunity to clarify and to date you haven’t yet managed to. I know that it’s because you can’t. You’ll take ample time for much about everything else but heaven forbid you talk actual technicals. What an absolute loser.
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
11 Oct 2021, 10:40
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11 Oct 2021, 10:40#38

Define "world class"

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
11 Oct 2021, 14:20
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11 Oct 2021, 14:20#39

Able to perform adequately at the international level.

Now, Reeza's technique.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
11 Oct 2021, 23:41
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11 Oct 2021, 23:41#40

The Oxford dictionary's definition of World Class

"as good as the best in the world"

here's another.....

  1. (of a person, thing, or activity) of or among the best in the world."a world-class player" · [more]
  2. Why don't you just admit that you've goofed the whole thing you blundering blithering Buffoon?
  3. It's a pleasure watching you try to squirm your way around the actual truth, it's so much easier to admit you've made a goose out of yourself, go on, why try to defend the indefensible. 
Ego is your enemy, honesty is a friend....try it. We wait with bated breath.....c'mon take that first step.
"Able to perform adequately at the international level."

Here,your lifetime achievement award Bwhahahahahhaha

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