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A question to Trump groupies......

Started by Denny88 REPLIES987 VIEWS· 07 Jan 2026, 12:05
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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
08 Jan 2026, 19:15#21

"Listen you wee Drol, don't waste my time, there's a reason why you've posted 48,134 times compared to my 12,353 with the same joining time.


You live here, I live rent free in your head."


It's true. Moffie pretty much lives on this board. It's his life. The Grumpy Old Men are by some distance our two most prolific (and worst) posters.


What Dense is saying about living rent free in Moffie's head is also true. For those who don't know, Moffie and Dense were the best of mates once upon a time (as were Moffie and ou Maaik if you can believe that) but Moffie never forgave Dense when he stopped demonizing me on this board and took the trouble to get to know me. That broke Moffie. His hatred now for Dense is right up there with his hatred for PSdT, Stav, Rassie and anyone who criticises Bozo.


PS giMp's post count may seem meagre by the standards set by the Grumpy Old Men, but if you total up his other characters, he's probably right up there with them. It would be an interesting exercise counting up the posts of the giMp/Augenoffner/DoosXL/Alucard complex but I don't have the time or the energy to do it. There are just too many.

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Stavanger1
Pro4,532 posts
08 Jan 2026, 21:02#22

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
08 Jan 2026, 21:31#23

Vaccine rushes to Hysteria's defense. Hint to Vaccine. It’s all very well defending Hysteria when it’s really a sneaky attempt to get at me. But when Hysteria hails you joyfully in the String title and you don’t respond, as happened recently, it really makes her look like….what’s the word….a gatkruiper.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
08 Jan 2026, 23:25#24

Stav, she was more of a threat to the safety of others than Ashley Babit was...both horrible tragedies...

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bobbok...
Captain10,129 posts
09 Jan 2026, 03:24#25

Stav, she was more of a threat to the safety of others than Ashley Babit was...both horrible tragedies...

total bollocks assumption.

shame on you .

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
09 Jan 2026, 07:03#26

You don't fck around with cops pointing a gun at you, especially not try to run them over...no assumption...or explain to me how a women climbing through a window is more dangerous than one in a speeding vehicle.

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Xavi
Pro1,924 posts
09 Jan 2026, 10:13#28

"You don't fck around with cops pointing a gun at you, especially not try to run them over...no assumption...or explain to me how a women climbing through a window is more dangerous than one in a speeding vehicle."

Don't drive at law enforcement and don't storm capital buildings.

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bobbok...
Captain10,129 posts
09 Jan 2026, 11:01#29

Bollocks, he was to the side of the vehicle, almost parallel to the driver... the vehicle barely touched him.


Trump's SS ..... sies.

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Xavi
Pro1,924 posts
09 Jan 2026, 11:22#30

"Bollocks, he was to the side of the vehicle, almost parallel to the driver... the vehicle barely touched him."


Why lie? He was in front of the vehicle when she started moving forward.








DA
Devil's Advocate
Pro7,008 posts
09 Jan 2026, 11:30#31

https://x.com/i/status/2009307757728485636

Yep, saw this yesterday

She was recklessly and dangerously stupid to do what she did.....and she didn't deserve to die, but I cannot fault the ICE agent.

People seem to also believe that she was shot through the side window when the vehicle came past the agent.... this is not true..... she was initially shot straight through the front windscreen...... and the only way that could have happened, was if the vehicle was heading directly towards the ICE officer

Bollocks, he was to the side of the vehicle, almost parallel to the driver... the vehicle barely touched him.

Not even close to being parallel to the vehicle

DA
Devil's Advocate
Pro7,008 posts
09 Jan 2026, 11:31#32

Why lie? He was in front of the vehicle when she started moving forward.

Exactly Xavi, it's clear as day

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
09 Jan 2026, 11:34#33

There were 2 ICE officers...one at the side, other in front...the MSM is peddling the angle where you can only see the one at the side of the vehicle...you don't aggressively interfere with law enforcement while they are doing their duty.

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clevermike
Coach57,555 posts
09 Jan 2026, 12:03#34

The fact is that the Democrats are incitin g the non-thinkers to attack the poice or legal aithorities and that is what really is the problem. They hav e eben at it for years now and when Police get shot the Democrat poiticians afe not allowed by the families to attend funerals.


The death of anybody is regretted but ponsible conduct has consequences. Just a question - how man police officer have been murdered by criminals and Antifa this year already. I ha[ened often _ bt nver word frpm, the site unaticss.

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Stavanger1
Pro4,532 posts
09 Jan 2026, 13:48#35

This FAFO shit is an equally obnoxious to TDS, just another brainless meme that MAGA have which gives another excuse not to have to engage in any sort of critical thinking.


She was recklessly and dangerously stupid to do what she did.....and she didn't deserve to die, but I cannot fault the ICE agent.


Oh I can, why did he need to fire the gun at all.


People seem to also believe that she was shot through the side window when the vehicle came past the agent.... this is not true..... she was initially shot straight through the front windscreen... and the only way that could have happened, was if the vehicle was heading directly towards the ICE officer


That's not correct, we can see in the footage when the first shot is fired the position it came from, the ICE agent who fired the shoot is mostly obscured by another agent but we can see the gases emitted from the first shot and we can see the position of his feet and the position of the car wheel. It shows that the agent was at around a 45 angle angle to the side of the car. The bullet hole in the widescreen was towards the lower left hand side of the windscreen, which indicate it was from an angle to the side. So the initially shot was not straight through the front windscreen.


The video footage clearly shows the 2nd and 3rd shots are directly from the side the third might have even gone beyond directly beside her.


Why where they even necessary at the point, he's at any risk at that point and by hitting the driver he's potential creating another risk of a dangerously out of control car.


Bollocks, he was to the side of the vehicle, almost parallel to the driver... the vehicle barely touched him.


Yes he wasn't parallel at the time of the first shot and wasn't when she started moving the car but he wasn't directly in front either. It's difficult to ascertain if their was much contact at all. What we do know is that whatever contact there was if any had no affect on the ICE agent's ability to fire his gun three times, the 2nd and third shoot from a more or less fully upright position. We can also see the same ICE agent appeared to uninjured afterwards as as he able to walk around just fine.


Why lie? He was in front of the vehicle when she started moving forward.

Exactly Xavi, it's clear as day


Here's the thing we can't see the position of the drivers head, we don't know where she was focusing at the time. She might have been so focused on the ICE officer trying to open her door that she didn't see the agent directly in front or her, or she might have spotted him to late to do anything different or she did spot with a raised gun and instinctively thought she needed to contuine to try to get away as quickly as possible.


What's disgraceful about this incident is the Trump administration labelling this a case of domestic terrorism, their is absolutely no way they could no way what was going through the drivers mind in those few seconds and they have zero other evidence to otherwise collaborate that claim. They also have zero evidence to call one of the witnesses professional agitators. Absolutely despicable shit. As is the nonsense comparisons to the women who involved in storming the capital.

But regardless of politics for the moment, US law enforcement is simply too trigger happy. That was not a situation that warranted shooting someone.


I believe I saw some statistics, that in 2025, 1,301 people where killed after being shot by police officers in the US, compared to 2 in the UK. Even accounting for the population difference the US is simply off the scale.



DA
Devil's Advocate
Pro7,008 posts
09 Jan 2026, 14:40#36

Oh I can, why did he need to fire the gun at all.

Because she presented an immediate threat..... the vehicle was a weapon, and she utilised it.

The bullet hole in the widescreen was towards the lower left hand side of the windscreen, which indicate it was from an angle to the side. So the initially shot was not straight through the front windscreen.

I don't agree

Why where they even necessary at the point, he's at any risk at that point and by hitting the driver he's potential creating another risk of a dangerously out of control car.

Yeah... and she speeds away and kills a innocent pedestrian or other officer and then you will be blaming the officer for not stopping the initial threat.... you would never be happy with any outcome.

What's disgraceful about this incident is the Trump administration labelling this a case of domestic terrorism

I agree, that's a bullshit claim

They also have zero evidence to call one of the witnesses professional agitators

You don't know that, neither do I ..... although I doubt it is true

But regardless of politics for the moment, US law enforcement is simply too trigger happy. That was not a situation that warranted shooting someone.

You don't know shit Stav......

So she makes a run for it and they give chase..... and she ends up wiping out an entire family in a SUV just 4 blocks away ........ yet they had the opportunity to stop her there

You stop the initial threat......if you want to be stupid enough to ride, ram or direct your vehicle towards ANY officer of the law, in any way..... accept the consequences.

DA
Devil's Advocate
Pro7,008 posts
09 Jan 2026, 14:41#37

I believe I saw some statistics, that in 2025, 1,301 people where killed after being shot by police officers in the US

I wonder how many of those 1 301 officers deliberately spent months or years of training..... just to do that......

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Stavanger1
Pro4,532 posts
09 Jan 2026, 16:23#38

Because she presented an immediate threat..... the vehicle was a weapon, and she utilised it.


She wasn't an immediate threat, he was to the side of the car. There is no possible way of knowing if the victim was trying to deliberately hit the ICE agent with her car. Nothing that the footage or nothing that we so far know about her indicates she would of deliberately turned her vehicle into a weapon.


I don't agree


This isn't a thing you can disagree with there is literally footage of the where the shot was fired from and photo's of where the bullet hole in the windscreen, it clearly shows the first shot was not straight through the front widescreen. The office is clearly at a 45 degree angle his lower body is clearly to the side of the car.


Yeah... and she speeds away and kills a innocent pedestrian or other officer and then you will be blaming the officer for not stopping the initial threat.... you would never be happy with any outcome.


Yeah because there wouldn't be an armed masked militia force going around creating situations like this in the first place.


You don't know that, neither do I ..... although I doubt it is true


Had any investigation been concluded by that point, had any evidence being produced. Remember this came from Trump who when asked about his delayed response to the Charlotteville incident responded he liked to get all the facts first and he is clearly politicising it to cover his own ass.


You don't know shit Stav......

So she makes a run for it and they give chase..... and she ends up wiping out an entire family in a SUV just 4 blocks away ........ yet they had the opportunity to stop her there

You stop the initial threat......if you want to be stupid enough to ride, ram or direct your vehicle towards ANY officer of the law, in any way..... accept the consequences.


What I do know is that in no other western country would we see a police force act like that, outside exceptional circumstances where an armed response team is specifically brought into to make an arrest of a suspect believed to be highly dangerous or them potentially manning roadblocks in response to a terrorist incident, you're not going see a police officers wearing mask walk up in aggressive manner to a person in a stopped car shouting get the fuck out of the car, you're not going see another masked office point a gun at the person, and even if the a police officer was hit/glanced/pushed in the manner that ICE officer it would of still been very unlikely the officer would of discharged his firearm.


Not only did their behaviour likely create the situation where the women instinctively tried to flee and not only did they create a risk of someone being injured by creating an out of control car, but even the firing of the weapon was dangerous in itself, as there was another civilian on the other side of the car not far off being directly inline with officer who fired his gun.


The UK police would of for example not created that situation in first place, but facing a similar situation of a fleeing vehicles they would of likely simply called in the number plate on the car and sent someone round to her house to arrest her or at least caution her for dangerous driving. Yes there can be high speed pursuits in the UK but it's likely a criminal fleeing a crime or arrest, not some random civilian who will almost certainly pull over at the first sign of police light.


I wonder how many of those 1 301 officers deliberately spent months or years of training..... just to do that......


I dunno, but both the Trump administration and people like you defending it will only encourage more of it because these people will think they have immunity. I can also tell you the number is far lower for police in other western countries. Checks the number of death by police shootings in Ireland, and since 2020, the number is...1.

DA
Devil's Advocate
Pro7,008 posts
09 Jan 2026, 17:12#39

There is no possible way of knowing if the victim was trying to deliberately hit the ICE agent with her car.

Yeah, until she literally goes over him... that would confirm it for you.. but that's a bit late then don't you think... only that officer would know that.

This isn't a thing you can disagree with

LMAO...of course I can, I am disagreeing with your assessment of what you think happened.... and I still do.

What I do know is that in no other western country would we see a police force act like that

More of your often repeated speculations and assumptions

and even if the a police officer was hit/glanced/pushed in the manner that ICE officer it would of still been very unlikely the officer would of discharged his firearm

Yep... the officer must wait to go under the vehicle first before discharging his firearm

but even the firing of the weapon was dangerous in itself, as there was another civilian on the other side of the car not far off being directly inline with officer who fired his gun

Yep, agreed

I dunno, but both the Trump administration and people like you defending it will only encourage more of it because these people will think they have immunity

LMFAO....I'm not the one thinking that people go through years of training just to shoot someone legally.... when any normal citizen with a legal firearm can do it from Monday to Sunday



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Stavanger1
Pro4,532 posts
09 Jan 2026, 19:38#40

Yeah, until she literally goes over him... that would confirn it for you.. but that's a bit late then don't you think... only that officer would know that.


But that still wouldn't prove it, still could of been accidental.


LMAO...of course I can, I am disagreeing with your assessment of what you think happened.... and I still do.


The video footage clearly shows the first shot is not straight through the front window, we can literally see see where the ICE agent is when the first shot goes off at an angle. I swear to god its like a cult, you could argue black is white.


More of your often repeated speculations and assumptions


Would you just fuck off with this nonsense by now. No other western countries or wester aligned countries police discharge their firearms near as often as US law enforcement does.


Yep... the officer must wait to go under the vehicle first before discharging his firearm


The car was already in the process of going by him with the wheels appearing to full locked in turning motion away from him. Unless the car had magically properties and could instantly gets its wheels to point directly at him and also instantly change its current momentum, there was no physical way he could go under the car by the time he discharged his firearm.


LMFAO....I'm not the one thinking that people go through years of training just to shoot someone legally.... when any normal citizen with a legal firearm can do it from Monday to Sunday


No you're the idiot that thinks Nancy Pelosi was responsible for security on January 6th.


American police don't go through years of training its on average about 5 months so states are double that some are even less. ICE is similar enough with 5-7 months training.


Of course you are missing the point, I'm not saying they can't legally own a gun, what I'm saying is that a motivating factor (not the sole factor) for some to become police is that it will increase the opportunity and likelihood that the will legally be able to shoot someone in the line of duty.

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