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CeradynePro9,374 posts
10 Sept 2019, 16:20
#41
10 Sept 2019, 16:20#41
Eish. I am also not an Economics professor but I have passed Economics 101. Where do we start? “ "Economics 101", sure so Trump and you know more than the people who set interest rates. America is in massive debt simpleton, reducing interest rates will only worsen the problem.“ Trump wants to lower domestic interest rates. The USA debt that you are referring to is international debt and a higher domestic interest rate is not going to help that one bit. What lower domestic interest rate can do is it can stimulate the economy. A stimulated economy increases market activity domestically. That, in return raises earnings which increases taxes due. But higher domestic earnings also potentially result in That, in return, raises domestic spending which raises higher earnings by businesses which raises profits by businesses on which higher taxes are paid. So, it is a full circle process by which give still raise taxes but without raising the tax rate. Economics 101, as I said. “You must be extremely stupid to not understand why there is such a thing as interest rates, and why it can't just be reduced. ” I trust that my previous argument show that I do know why there is such a thing as interest rates and how it can be a tool to use in managing the economy. I do grant you that it can also be used as a political tool but I do not agree that Trump is using it as such. More about that later. “Trump wants to reduce interest rates (and increase debt), just so the economy can get an artificial boost for him to win the next election. Any slowdown in economic growth and your far right wing friend is gone” I’m afraid but you are missing the boat on this one. Trump has been advocating for lower interest and tax rates even during his 2016 election campaign, long before he even considered running in 2020 as well. That is why I said earlier that I doubt whether Trump is using it as political tool. Trump probably understands finances and international markets better than most if not all USA presidents since WWII. The US economy is not in an artificial growth cycle. It is in a real growth cycle. Employment figures alone should be the first hint but if that is not good enough for you then surely the return of manufacturing to the USA should be telling you something. Remember how Obama told everybody and their granny that those jobs are gone for ever and would never return. IMO, Obama knew fokol about international markets and finance.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Sept 2019, 17:41
#42
10 Sept 2019, 17:41#42

To put is succinctly Sharktwit has no idea about interest rates or anything really.

Your interest rates has a bearing also on your competitiveness. When competitors nation lower their interest rates and you don't their competitive improves 

So Germany and China lower rates to gain an advantage. 

There was no reason for the Fed to raise rates like they as their was zero inflation. Further the increased rates cost about 500 billion dollars a year. 

Trump was right to call the Fed out. 

Two things. We could well see the globalist dominated Fed raise rates near the election to crash the US economy and help defeat Trump. Trump very obviously is aware of this. 

If Trump nails a trade deal with China it is estimated the Dow will go up by 10,000 points. 

Hence the demonrats opposition to tarrifs. Their praying for a recession - its all on record.

To hell with what's good for American citizens. 

2020 is hugely consequential as to whether the USA survives as a free Republic or whether is goes full on marxist/globalist adopting mind blowing policy disasters.

TRUMP 2020 KAG! FOR THE SAKE OF THE WORLD AS A WHOLE. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
10 Sept 2019, 21:26
#43
10 Sept 2019, 21:26#43

Utter BS. The people who decide interest rates have by far the best knowledge of what is best for the economy. They might not be right 100% of the time, but they certainly know more than Joe Blogs. 

Otherwise, why have interest rates at all? If you don't understand collateral, then you do not have 101 of economics. 

If there was no interest rates, people would spend above their means (which is already happening). If there was no interest rates, people that save (instead of consuming) become poorer, which defeats the point of making a profit.

Search in Google about interest rates, and find people that are qualified in this area. I admit these people know a million times more than what I do. They provide strong arguments for when to reduce interest rates, and when to increase them. 

Trump's government continues to increase to the national debt. It is currently higher than what it has ever been. It is irrelevant if the debt is to other countries, debt is debt. 

The credit crunch recession was caused by irresponsible lending that was not based on real value (collateral). People spent above their means, and when confidence was lost- the economy crashed. This was the banks that did this. 

Some of the smart financial experts saw that the economy would crash before it did because they understand economics. They sold lots of investment assets and made a killing once the inevitable crash happened..... (The Credit Crunch)


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
10 Sept 2019, 21:54
#44
10 Sept 2019, 21:54#44
It will take years before the full extent of Bozo's utter incompetence is fully realised.
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
11 Sept 2019, 00:30
#45
11 Sept 2019, 00:30#45
'It will take years before the full extent of Bozo's utter incompetence is fully realized'. Whereas Obummer's incompetence..........the Arab Spring, destroying Libya, facilitating the advent of Isis, allowing Russia to walk into Crimea, ignoring the border crisis, regulating the starch out of US business and orchestrating the slowest recovery since WW2.........is already completely apparent.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 Sept 2019, 07:06
#46
11 Sept 2019, 07:06#46

There is something very pertinent in the SA Constitution - the function of the Reserve Bbank and that is protecting the quality of the Rand as a currency,  The Zumanoids wanted  to change it and used the Public Protector to recommend such a change,   It flopped because the Appeals Court declared that her recommendation was totally wrong.

The issue of debt of  Government of any country revolves around economic growth,   The additional income derived by Government from economic growth has a major role in repayment of the debt. In the sixteen years of Bus h and Obama administration the debt rose from circa $3,3 trillion to circa $21 trillion.   That was done while the printing presses ran wild printing money.

The only way that the problem can really be solved is through economic growth - which was way below par and even non-existent under Bush and Obama,   One of the key elements for economic growth is availability of loans at low rates to enhance borrowing capacity by the private sector to  fund projects with a direct link ensuring economic growth and increasing of Government real income.  

The other part of the issue is Government spending not only on social issues relating to housing and related problems but on infrastructure projects as well.   Wise Government spending on those type of projects also boost economic growth, but the Obama Administration did zilch to enhance economic growth through those means.

Even if Obama  could have had a third term he would have been rejected by the electorate.   If he was that popular he would have helped Clinton to win the presidency.  He tried his utmost in campaigning vigorously in the four Rust Belt states - Ohio a normal swing state won by Obama in 2008 and 2012, Michigan and Pennsylvania  (voted Democratic in every election since 1988)  and Wisconsin  (voted Democratic in every election since 1984), which the Democrats called the "Blue Wall".    The Democrats lost in all four states and Obama would also have lost in those four states because the blue collar workers rejected the Obama system totally and he would NOT have won a third term.  The comment from ordinary voters in Pennsylvania made on ABC news election night broadcast from Pennsylvania was " Jobs trump everything".   Even with jobs their standard of living declined by 22%  in the last 30 years,

The growth in Government debt from 2000 to 2016 was not linked to economic growth and trillions were spent on ineffective cost-covering issues.     

   

 

   

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 Sept 2019, 15:04
#47
11 Sept 2019, 15:04#47

Great points Mke and Moz.

These two clowns don't know that you raise interest rates to combat inflation. There was no inflation and NO valid reason to raise rates and by as much as they did.



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CeradynePro9,374 posts
11 Sept 2019, 17:55
#48
11 Sept 2019, 17:55#48

@Sharkbok. 

This is very interesting. Check this clip. It actually also links to the thread about John Bolton by our friend who also likes to refer to Trump as Bozo. Listen to what Ken Fisher says about Trump and the way he operates. Pay attention, in particular, to him talking about interest rates from about 8:00 onwards, where he says that he does not have a problem with the Fed cutting rates. 


Just a bit of info on Ken Fisher. He is the founder CEO of Fisher investments who have $112Bn under management. He has a personal net value in excess of $3Bn. 

"The firm has offices in Washington, California, Texas, the United Kingdom, Germany, Dubai, Australia and Japan, with further global expansion underway.


His prestigious Forbes “Portfolio Strategy” column ran from 1984 through 2016, making Ken the longest continuously running columnist in the magazine’s history. He now writes regular columns for USA Today, the UK's Financial Times , Germany's Focus Money, Italy's Il Sole 24 Ore, Denmark's Børsen, Sweden's Dagens Industri, Switzerland's Handelszeitun and the Netherlands' Telegraaf. Ken has authored 11 books on finance and investing, including 4 New York Times bestsellers."

Chances are that h e just may know a little more about world economics and interest rates and shyte than you and me put together. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
11 Sept 2019, 20:12
#49
11 Sept 2019, 20:12#49

Fisher probably didn't say enough pro Trump stuff to get our resident clown rooibozo to call him a fool. 

I could be wrong. 

Rooibozo must wonder how fools become billionaires whilst a genius like him barely makes it!  

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
12 Sept 2019, 14:32
#50
12 Sept 2019, 14:32#50

@Ceradyne,

This person does know more about finance than either of us. However, how objective is he? 

If someone sells ice cream, of course they are going to say ice cream is fantastic. 

Or are they going to say people should only buy ice cream when it is sunny? 

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The fact remains that if having no interest rates, or always having low-interest rates was the best option - then there would be no such thing as interest rates at all....

People that want to increase interest rates are doing so, to ensure that people do not overspend, and those get do save- get rewarded for this. 

Increasing interest rates has the effect of reducing a nation's debt. It brings the risk of loans closer to the real market value (Collateral). It makes an economy more stable, and less likely to crash.

If the economies crashed tomorrow, and the banks need to be bailed out again - then interest rates would be reduced to give the economy a short term boost.


Have you seen the movie with Christian Bale called the Big Short?  It is based on a true story, where a financial expert predicts the crash. Christian Bale identifies that the housing market is not based on market value and bets against the economy- and makes billions from it. 

The same thing happened before the credit crunch. The true experts identified what was going to happen before the actual crash, and turned it into an opportunity to make billions.

Most investment bankers are slimeballs. Another good movie is the one with Leonardo Capriro- Wolf of Wallstreet- also based on a real-life person that eventually went to jail for fraud and negligence. It shows allot of investment bankers are just salespeople , with no knowledge of the markets.


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
12 Sept 2019, 15:52
#51
12 Sept 2019, 15:52#51

Obummer had a zero interest rate. Trump now has, was it, 2.5% meaning some 390 billion dollars is being added to national debt per annum. The raising of interest rates hurts export so with competitors knocking various levels of basis points off thevr rates Trump wants interest rates cut for that reason also. Remember there is no inflation. Trump is right again.

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) projects that interest payments will continue to grow rapidly, rising from $389 billion in fiscal year 2019 (the current fiscal year) to $914 billion in 2028. Overall, net interest costs will total nearly $7 trillion over the next decade

To get out of this Trump has to grow GDP so the Debt/GDP ratio goes down.  Obviously government expenditure must decrease. But to get his money to refurbish the military he had to agree to wasteful Demonrat expenditure. 

When the GOP retakes the House in 2020 Trump can deal with the deficit far more effectively.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
13 Sept 2019, 08:01
#52
13 Sept 2019, 08:01#52

@Shark


Low interest rate = aids economy in climbing out of trouble.

Higher interest rate = holds economy in check.

After a period of sustained growth and momentum, the U.S. will raise it's rates. In combination with the new trade deals...expect Trump to be the most economically successful president in a lifetime. 

He is almost that already, while clearly being some distance from his end game.

Many U.S. politicians know this. They hate that some reality tv weirdo is showing them up so severely and by default exposing the persistent ineptitude's long hiding behind bureaucracy.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
13 Sept 2019, 09:06
#53
13 Sept 2019, 09:06#53

Plum, hoe gaan dit. Are you still in the Republic?

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
13 Sept 2019, 09:39
#54
13 Sept 2019, 09:39#54

Hi Draad

Yes. Still in SA. Doubt I will be for much longer though. 


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
13 Sept 2019, 14:05
#55
13 Sept 2019, 14:05#55

Plum I thought you were in Canada already.   In essence I am  very happy about our contribution on this issue - it is clear and precise.  Sounds like you worked for the Reserve Bank for a while.  LOL  

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
13 Sept 2019, 15:03
#56
13 Sept 2019, 15:03#56
The hate filled raging anti God atheist "fools" here have been busy venting their hatred of God.The fool sharktwit concludes saying thankfully God doesn't exist. But the FOOL still can't answer how a universe created itself out of nothing and neither can the cowardly fool rooitwit.The FOOLS also can't explain how the information contained in a stand of DNA came about. Equivalent to 350 volumes of encyclopediaMan, isn't it delicious how science has turned on these fools big time. Now old sharktwit complains bitterly about God's judgment regarding the flood Like all extreme leftist loons he loves lawlessness. How dare God judge sinners. Yet even a loon like sharktwit at times is outraged at something or other being wrong and wants justice. Trust i am not giving the loon too much credit!The flood demonstrates to mankind that God will judge and rightly so. We all actually realize that much but hate that we might be judged of course.The astounding thing actually is God's amazing forbearance. What a stench in the nostrils of a Holy, All Knowing, Perfect Being mankind must be. Think about that for a moment. We should all have been wiped out long ago. We all become numbed to sin. The murder of 63 million American children hardly registers with some. We have little idea how awful we all are when measured against the Holiness of God! Sin by the way entered the world when Adam and Eve invited the devil in and chose to obey the devil rather than God's command to them.Don't attribute to God the works of the Devil! Bob Dylan famously sang - you gotta serve somebody, now it maybe the devil and it maybe the Lord but you gotta serve somebody. Why serve that loser devl!Hope to see you All in Heaven sometime. Remember you have to come through the Door. The Door is Christ, God the Son who made everything you see and don't see.The worlds were made through Him and FOR Him.Joost died, Reuben Kruger died, now vts Chester next ts you perhaps? Don't keep your head buried in the sand seek the Lord while you still have breath! He died on the Cross and then rose again and is alive forevermore. Hence he can reveal Himself to you.
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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
13 Sept 2019, 19:29
#57
13 Sept 2019, 19:29#57
I spoke to God yesterday, and he said Beeno is a fool. 
Also a primitive simpleton for thinking that God takes sides. Like the medieval era of religious wars. with 2 sides fighting over 2 versions of the same book originally written in Babylon....

Beeno is a bible basher that can't understand the deeper values of what the good parts of religious texts are about.  
Back to the Poll Request of this thread;
For Beeno, he has 2 goals to be gained from religion:
1. Get into heaven, and have an eternal afterlife...
2. Use his association with the Bible/God while here on Earth to imply he is a better person than most/all others. Push and Peddle his opinions as to the Word of God... Anyone that fits his dogma like Trump is part of God's crew, and everyone else is part of the Devil's crew.  3. Become a better person
4. Selectively use quotes from the Bible to support your own dogma, even if the contradictions within the Bible have opposite opinions. 
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 Sept 2019, 12:59
#58
15 Sept 2019, 12:59#58

Nope if you understood even the most basic Biblical truths, which you don't, you would know in God's sight we are all sinners. We don't go to Heaven because we are better than others. 

We boast not of ourselves but of Christ. 

Of course going to Heaven and being given the gift of eternal life is wonderful news, so wonderful one must share it. Pity you are not going to Heaven but it's your choice. 

The Globalist NWO is of Satan and the Biblical reasons are very clear. 

And no sharktwit Christ was not crucified on Christmas day. 

As for Trump its great he arrived in the nick of time to take on the Satanic Globalists. Man do they hate him for destroying their NWO and all the progress they had been making for their one world government tyranny. 

Right now things are heading in the right direction but the battle rages. 

Great to see the Globalist big Tech firms coming under serious scrutiny. 

Like to see anti American globalist rags like CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, WAPO AND NYT shut down for starters. All their lies etc are doing America no good. But at the rate they are losing support hopefully they will silence themselves as viewers etc continue to switch off.

I see your buddy rooibozo can't explain how a universe created itself from nothing. As a raving atheist loon who insists God doesn't exist perhaps you can help the BOZO out and do the explaining. The cowardly rooitwit has given up. He is out for the count. Bwhahahahaha.

Come on sharktwit. You have a big loud atheist mouth, thinking everyone who believes in God is crazy, you explain this. Explain also the 350 volumes of IFORMATION contained in every strand of DNA. 

 Two versions of the same book written in Babylon! You ignorant loon. 

Sharktwit your opining on spiritual matters where  you are clueless is worse that that arch mampara rooitwit who crashes again and again on political matters. 



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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
15 Sept 2019, 13:05
#59
15 Sept 2019, 13:05#59
Good luck with your afterlife insurance policy.  The only problem there are thousands of religions with similar afterlife insurance policies...
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 Sept 2019, 13:24
#60
15 Sept 2019, 13:24#60
The lefties are forever advocating freedom of speech. It looks to me, though, that freedom of speech is and will always be based upon the condition that you stick to the leftie agenda. You automatically forfeit your freedom of speech the minute you fail to toe the leftie line. What they do seem to forget, though, is that along with freedom of speech there is another freedom. The freedom of choice. You have the freedom to choose whether you read someone’s post or not. Ou Blobbie, you have the freedom of choice, ie the freedom to choose whether or not you read Beeno’s political ramblings or not. Same goes for Sharkie. You have the freedom to choose whether to read Beeno’s religious ramblings or not, just like Beeno has the freedom to choose whether to read your anti Christian ramblings or not. You same to be just as guilty as Beeno when it comes to religion. You like to preach atheism as much as he likes to preach Christianity. Pot ....... kettle ..... black?
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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
15 Sept 2019, 16:25
#61
15 Sept 2019, 16:25#61
@Ceradyne,
I am an anti-theist, not an atheist. That means I believe the world would be a better place without religion, at least in the modern world. I do believe in the possibility of an afterlife etc, but I believe that religion is made by man and not God. At the moment Muslim is the worst religion, but most religions as we know them today originate from the Arabs in the Middle East. Abraham is, for example, an Arab. 
I do not see how having a monolithic God is democratic because it is intolerant to other views. It uses God to be the definitive truth. I have no problem with religious people that use religion as inspiration to be good people, however, I can't stand Bible-bashing hypocrites. 
For a far right-wing person, everyone else is on the left-wing- but it this is primitive thought like Cane and Abel (Good or Bad, not a relative truth). 
The Christian Church fought for years to suppress freedom of speech and viewpoints that were not a far-right wing.  Now as the religion is on the decline, the former persecutors of freedom of speech, now want to be protected under freedom of speech...
I am not creating hundreds of posts about far-right-wing dogma- which is what this post was about.... 
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 Sept 2019, 17:57
#62
15 Sept 2019, 17:57#62
Whatever you are as far as your beliefs are is up to you and none of my business and certainly none of my concern. It is your right to believe whatever you want and it is also down to your freedom of choice. I’ve said it before and I stand by that. It is also Beeno’s freedom of choice to post the stuff as long as he stays within the forum rules, if any. I also don’t believe that it is appropriate to call for steps to infringe on his rights as much as it is not appropriate to call for steps to infringe on your rights to disagree with him if you so wish, of course. See where I’m going with this? It boils down to what I always say. If you don’t like it don’t read it. Simples really. If you feel the need to respond to any post by anyone then go ahead. It is your right. That is what debate is about after all and that is the reason for forums such as this one. To provide a platform for debate. The one thing that is important, though, is that you have to realise that the minute you have posted something you have opened yourself up for debate and you also have to accept that you may, and most probably will, face disagreement. It is all part of the package.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 Sept 2019, 18:40
#63
15 Sept 2019, 18:40#63
Ou sharktwit and Blobbie are whining cause they keep losing the debates. Guess it must be distressing for the snowflakesThe brainwashed "mind" hates thinking. These doormats are just there to be told what to think.So far gone are they that they genuinely resent any other view that shows up their bent lies. Think how poor rooitwit must feel. He comes bounding onto the board with some very obviously fake news. The oaks put him right and he slinks off tail between legs. Sharktwit suffers similarly. Bwhahahahaha. If ya can't take the heat stay out the kitchen sharktwit and Blobbie. Allow the adults to debate the questions of the day. 
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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
15 Sept 2019, 19:41
#64
15 Sept 2019, 19:41#64

How can absolute truth be debated? If a religion's God's says something is true, then it is an objective fact that is absolute, not subjective. That pretty much ends any debate... 

What is a fact is that followers of religion will subjectively interpret and apply what the truth is...

Democratic truth is relative, and therefore open to debate which version is more true. 

The Church has had its fun in the past, but it is on its way out- at least in the Western World. We will be feeding you to the lions soon 


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 Sept 2019, 08:20
#65
16 Sept 2019, 08:20#65

No more babbling please sharktwit. You fool nobody not even yourself. Poor rooitwit was hoping you could lend a hand. 

Answers the two questions or admit all your insistence there is no God is total nonsense. 


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CeradynePro9,374 posts
16 Sept 2019, 09:42
#66
16 Sept 2019, 09:42#66
“We will be feeding you to the lions soon.......” You do know that that would confirm a Bible prophecy of thousands of years ago, don’t you? In addition to the above, the cheerful smiley at the end of your remark confirms your hatred for Christians and Christianity. Still denying it?
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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
16 Sept 2019, 13:35
#67
16 Sept 2019, 13:35#67
I dislike all Abrahamic religions, so I am happy to also feed the far right-wing Muslims and Jews along with Christians to the Lions.
It also seems I am a prophet, as this was predicted in the Bible... LMAO. 
Religions all go through 3 stages:1. New Religion. The followers get persecuted. 2. Established Religion. The followers persecute others3. Dying Religion: The follower now gets persecuted again. (he, he)
So anytime you want to debate you quote selective lines from a primitive ancient text originating from the Arabs as if it is a fact of God... These Arab places remain the most backward places on Earth. 
What a great debate, relying on some backward texts to make sense of the modern world. This explains the far-right stance.   The last of a dying breed...

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
16 Sept 2019, 13:47
#68
16 Sept 2019, 13:47#68

"So anytime you want to debate you quote selective lines from a primitive ancient text originating from the Arabs as if it is a fact of God...  "

I did that?

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
16 Sept 2019, 15:31
#69
16 Sept 2019, 15:31#69

.

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
16 Sept 2019, 15:31
#70
16 Sept 2019, 15:31#70

Most religious people do that. We are talking about religion in general. You also stated I hate "Christian" religion as a whole.


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CeradynePro9,374 posts
16 Sept 2019, 15:46
#71
16 Sept 2019, 15:46#71
The only people most folks want to feed to the lions are the ones they hate. You wouldn’t want to feed someone to the lions just because you dislike them, would you?
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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
16 Sept 2019, 15:49
#72
16 Sept 2019, 15:49#72
No, my hobby is feeding Lions. That is what I do in my spare time. 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 Sept 2019, 20:44
#73
16 Sept 2019, 20:44#73

Don't get those lions too excited...you might get Ramsayed like a Bolton ...religion is not nearly done... yet, so don't get too far ahead of yourself , you might end up on the wrong side of some lion adventure. Facism tends to backfire. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
16 Sept 2019, 21:18
#74
16 Sept 2019, 21:18#74

So fascism should be tolerated to be non-fascist? 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 Sept 2019, 22:00
#75
16 Sept 2019, 22:00#75

....or intolerance should not be tolerated!

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
16 Sept 2019, 22:09
#76
16 Sept 2019, 22:09#76

So tolerance of intolerance should be accepted? 

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
17 Sept 2019, 00:14
#77
17 Sept 2019, 00:14#77

Unfortunately mankind will never be free of religion as there are always be scammers and con men as long as there are the uneducated and gullible to be preyed upon.

Thankfully with the advances is education and the sciences the number of religious people is in decline. Hopefully we will see a similar trend in the middle east as we are seeing in the west but they are a long way behind us still.

Education is the path to freedom and as such we must stand against any religious dogma being taught in our schools and in an ideal world all children should be protected from religious dogma until they are at minimum 14.

The religious will not stand for this as they know they have to get them young enough to believe the unbelievable. If they had to wait till the kids were in their teens they know their conversion rates would be almost nil.

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
17 Sept 2019, 01:23
#78
17 Sept 2019, 01:23#78

@Crusaders fan, Yes preventing the teaching of religion to anyone under the age of 14 is a good idea. We just need more lions in the meantime to eat the remaining brainwashees . 


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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
17 Sept 2019, 07:01
#79
17 Sept 2019, 07:01#79

Belief in the unbelief ...a very unscientific focus.

Believing in not believing....  think about it...a religion of belief in the unbelief.

To accomplish this one forbids religious teaching at schools he says.Well the atheists already accomplished this in the States via Madelyn O'Hare the most evil president of atheists America. and look at all their shootings at schools.Too many whitewashed tombs in atheism.


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
17 Sept 2019, 10:12
#80
17 Sept 2019, 10:12#80

And the irony seems lost on them.

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