America Steals Over 100 Million from Switzerland

Ah, okay, good to know. Thanks.

"Spot on Rooi...talk about double standards. En DB, pasop, die poliesie kom dalk vir jou een van dae...DUI ;)

Putting a smile after the post doesn't make it funny...I don't drink and drive, not even if I had only one light beer ...

$100M is small change in the bigger scheme of things ...they could have gone to the courts in stead of running to the press...poor attempt at anti Trump propaganda.

If you tell ChatGPT to do a web search it will be more current than its own database.

However we have the quoted words verbatim from Swiss government officials- so the answer is clear, with or without AI.

Who are you going to be believe - Switzerland or the Oligarchic America and Trump?

If America cant deliver based on their commitments, and then refuse to refund they are unreliable partners. They need to be removed from our supply chains.

I saw Trump saying he wants to take American troops out of Germany. That is fantastic. They can go to Iran and die to protect the Epstein file. Trump's friend Putin has been supplying Iran with upgraded drones with AI capability as well as surveillance. America's army has no experience in this- they are now the guinea pigs. Meanwhile Trump has a portrait of Putin on his wall.

You don’t ‘steal’ something if you are simply doing what your contract allows you to do. The time to question a contract is before you sign it…Business 101.

Here’s the relevant clause from your own post, which clearly you missed:

’The FMS program pools payments for multiple defense projects into a single fund, allowing US authorities to shift resources between programs.’

And was there a reason to shift resources? Yes the Ukraine war, that the Woke set are in favor of continuing to the last Ukranian created a priority for Patriots. So accept, there is a price to be paid…..a few years delay for missiles Switzerland will never use.

"If America cant deliver based on their commitments, and then refuse to refund they are unreliable partners. They need to be removed from our supply chains."

Good luck with the Griffons...or go buy your F35s elsewhere .

It is very funny. Liberals can not take information as soon as it contradicts their narrative which gets flimsier day after day.

There are so many holes in their narrative: lumping entities together (which is a common strategy by liberals, as illustrated magnificently with racism) Europe, several countries, different policies. Switzerland has a long history of neutrality, so assuming they are automatically supportive of Ukraine when their own interests are at stakes is another liberal short cut. Even within the EU, there are massive divergences on the level of support to Ukraine.

Pressure on Patriots supply do not come only from Ukraine's needs but also from Israel's needs.

And again, being authorised does not mean automatic. Switzerland reported an opposition, the US used contract provisions to circumvent the absence of consent. Which is the point. See how liberals work: they introduce dodgy perceptions like stealing. So they do not have to face that the US crushed the absence of consent. They dismissed it. Nothing in the contract made this behaviour automatic. It is a choice by the US.

And the OP has it already: the balance of power. The US crushed Switzerland because they could.

Liberals have a common point with fascists: just like fascists, liberals respect nothing but power.

VisKop

Don't you worry a little about your seeming need to cling to any story that appears to show Trump or the US in a bad light?

You are the guy the screamed "science" during COVID.

The stuff you post, and your sheer lack of willingness to understand what you are posting before you do so, is the antithesis of "science".

Moz explained it to you. And what's your rebuttal? Same as unironically screaming "science" in order to follow non-scientific methods only, in a different format this time, "The Swiss said so and thus it must be true" in the face of being presented with the parameters of the contract.

Perhaps simply admit that your biases drag you around by the nostrils. That would buy you some credibility.

On a more serious note, do you run your business with the same lack of ability to scrutinise facts and strategise on the basis of your findings?

If so, I have some waterproof teabags to sell you. They are scientifically researched and endorsed by the Swiss Tea Master's Association.

Switzerland halted Patriot payments in July 2025 after being notified of multi-year delivery delays,

It is very funny. Liberals in order to gain tangible short term benefits are used to playing all the angles possible. Which means there is nothing to discuss as they can no longer discuss.

July 2025: where was that? A few weeks away from a peace settlement between Russia and Ukraine according to the US. And yet, the delay is explained by the necessity to supply Ukraine.

The OP has it: balance of power and statements of power. Liberals are restricted to this.

"The Swiss said so and thus it must be true" in the face of being presented with the parameters of the contract.

It is very funny. Absence of universality. Liberals can not think universally. They fail at it. The US say so in the Iran case, the US must be believed. Here, the same line of thought can not be applied. Switzerland telling it is not enough.

And see how liberals can not confront a situation. The OP reports that the move is within the contract terms but the method remains very questionable as Switzerland did not consent to the move and even more, showed its absence of consent. That is tyranny by liberal standards.

Morning, Blo.

Thanks for yet more uninformative posts that nobody will ever read.

I plumb live to give

I know, Trad

I see that ButtPlug now seeks to crawl uip Mozart's arse, as a sycophantic toady.

ButtPlug wrote a long post of gibberish about science and Covid- the very same person who tried to prove the existence of aliens using a car hubcap from the Book of Meton. (I usually just scan, or skip the long posts by DumbMike and Buttplug).

I respect the integrity of most EU countries - their politicians are better then most.

I don't believe anything out of the Whitehouse.

California are polling at 45% to cede from America. If they leave America, it will speed up the decline of America. Most of the brains are from the blue states- California in particular. Their membership is like socialism. The red states often cant afford to pay taxes, so California has to subsize them.

Incidentally, Trump's poll ratings are lower than any US president since Nixon. Once the MAGA boots are on the ground - and they get to face Putin's upgraded AI drones, Trump's poll rating will continue to decline.

Meanwhile Trump now has his name and signature printed on money. More and more buildings are being named after him.

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I respect the integrity of most EU countries - their politicians are better then most.

I don't believe anything out of the Whitehouse.

California are polling at 45% to cede from America. If the leave America, it will speed up the decline of America. Most of the brain are from the blue states.

You really are a shot thinkerer if you really believe he above or you have been rainwashed into ben ga shot player,

Biden in 2021 promised the A ussie Prime Minister - whose name h could not remember - that the US A will provide 8 nuclear-powered submarines to Australia to help protect Australia o be attacked by China using thei navy. Problem is from 2019 the USA was supposed to build 2 nuclear powered and armed submarines per year - with servicing of the existing sbs wioud eb undertaken annually,

So from the above the situuation is as follows:

1. In t he period 2021 to 2024 - instead of delivering 8 new subs to the USA Navy - 2 ws in fact provided
2. of the 60 such submarnes used by he USA navy 20 was wihdrawn from Service since the were not suviced
3. the 8 promised submarines will only be delivered to Australia after 2035.

The same sitation pertains to the supply of arms to NA TO and other countries, In the case of Switzerland hey know when arms will be delvered during specific years and at presen with wo major wars in evidence - delivery to all countries will be impacted,

So what have we got insofar as your believe is concerned. It is based entirely on BS occupying your minds, You have over the last 10 years being wring iro of all your postings on Trump. You believe all the sh ot spread by the fake leftist media and when proven wring always find new BS to spread. With that kind of shiot you come up in what you believe - ad unfortunartely what you believe has always been expsoed as BS originating from elements in the media who specialize in shit-spreading.

To be won g for 10 tears withut a break - should have taught you a lesson - but with brainwashing being total - you keep showing up on site as a shit spreader, comin g up wit myths that never materialized.

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No DumbMike, I form my opinions of Trump speaking live on Video. I don't have to read what journalists have to say. The orange Hitler has unwavering support from the religious simpletons, as was the case with Hitler in the 1930's. The lower the average IQ of a state in America, the higher the support is for Trump.

The smarter conservatives would have preferred DeSantis or Nicky Hailey - it is the simpletons that love Trump

Although the poll ratings of Trump are facts. Even your beloved Fox News confirm this.

"I see that ButtPlug now seeks to crawl uip Mozart's arse, as a sycophantic toady."

Umm okay...

"ButtPlug wrote a long post of gibberish about science and Covid- the very same person who tried to prove the existence of aliens using a car hubcap from the Book of Meton. (I usually just scan, or skip the long posts by DumbMike and Buttplug)."

Blatantly lying, while also ignoring the fact that you fully agreed with the "SCIENCE" and told us that COVD defos came from nature, while it has later been agreed that COVID was just as likely to come from a lab. And that's exactly what i tried to tell you at the time. I clearly broke down exactly why the official narrative was counte-scientific in how it treated COVID. By the way, have you changed your position and do you now accept that it could have come from a lab....or are you still all about the pseudo "SCIENCE bro"?

"I respect the integrity of most EU countries - their politicians are better then most.

I don't believe anything out of the Whitehouse."

Perfect, so your "belief" supersedes what is written down in a contract. Could you be a bigger clown if you tried?

"California are polling at 45% to cede from America. If they leave America, it will speed up the decline of America. Most of the brains are from the blue states- California in particular. Their membership is like socialism. The red states often cant afford to pay taxes, so California has to subsize them."

And...right on cue...the TDS takes over and you start to rant about something unrelated. Great job.

"Incidentally, Trump's poll ratings are lower than any US president since Nixon. Once the MAGA boots are on the ground - and they get to face Putin's upgraded AI drones, Trump's poll rating will continue to decline."

I thought this was about the Swiss and $100 million...suddenly we're on polling numbers. My guy, you're cooked, totally cooked. Have a look at the thought process you went through as you typed that post above. Straight from denying reality, written down in black and white, and into a rant about unrelated stuff.

"Meanwhile Trump now has his name and signature printed on money. More and more buildings are being named after him."

Seek help.

Cognitive dissonance is when a person experiences conflict between belief and reality, and resolves it by rationalising the facts so they align with the belief, rather than adjusting the belief to fit the fact!!!

Tell me the above isn't you, Visser.

Is this you...

SB

Your problem is over the apst decade yopu h ave been proved 100% wrong in everything you said will happen or ah ppened about Trump. Not one case was true ass roven by fact and has been otaly discredited in subsequent documnetary proof.

It is not what Trump say that count whent e h emdia quoted him out of context by th e fake emdia and you have that on site, One would call that idiocy supreme prejudiced BS.

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SB

Your problem is over the apst decade yopu h ave been proved 100% wrong in everything you said will happen or ah ppened about Trump. Not one case was true ass roven by fact and has been otaly discredited in subsequent documnetary proof.

It is not what Trump say that count whent e h emdia quoted him out of context by th e fake emdia and you have that on site, One would call that idiocy supreme prejudiced BS.

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And what exactly does Covid have anything to do with the topic?

"ButtPlug wrote a long post of gibberish about science and Covid- the very same person who tried to prove the existence of aliens using a car hubcap from the Book of Meton. (I usually just scan, or skip the long posts by DumbMike and Buttplug)."

Blatantly lying, while also ignoring the fact that you fully agreed with the "SCIENCE" and told us that COVD defos came from nature, while it has later been agreed that COVID was just as likely to come from a lab. And that's exactly what i tried to tell you at the time. I clearly broke down exactly why the official narrative was counte-scientific in how it treated COVID. By the way, have you changed your position and do you now accept that it could have come from a lab....or are you still all about the pseudo "SCIENCE bro"?

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Who agrees that COVID just as likely came from a lab? You are saying the science was wrong. Was it Metonian logic that disproved human science? ButtPlug's emotion is clouding his judgment.

WHO never ruled out a lab but has always maintained that it was most probably of natural origins - just like other diseases in the past. Yet, ButtPlug has disproven science with his emotion, he does need to prove anything.

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It is very simple. Switzerland placed an order with an agreed date. That was not delivered, so they should be refunded. If America have some vague BS in the terms and conditions of the contract -then it is best to not use America as a supplier