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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
24 Jun 2019, 12:41
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24 Jun 2019, 12:41#1

There are at least 3 bible-bashers on this thread who believe that atheists hate god.

I've asked the following question twice already but I've yet to get a coherent or sensible reply:

"Why would an atheist hate something that he doesn't believe exists?"

I don't believe in a god, just as I don't believe in a tooth fairy. I don't hate god nor do I hate the tooth fairy. I don't believe in either of them . . . why would I "hate" them?

I do believe there is some historical evidence to prove that Jesus Christ existed but as I've said before, I don't believe he turned water into wine, I don't believe he raised anyone from the dead, I don't believe he was the son of any kind of god or deity and I certainly don't believe he died for my sins.

What I do know about Jesus (based on the bible now rather than on historical evidence) is that he lived into his thirties without ever having had a relationship with a woman, he spent nearly all his time in the company of men, the person he loved most was John and on his last night as a mortal man of the flesh he was seen some distance away from his sleeping apostles  being followed by a "young man wearing nothing but a linen garment". (Mark 14: 51-53). That sounds pretty gay to me . . . but I don't hate Jesus just as I don't hate gay people.

So where does all this talk of "hate" come from? From what I can see it's the bible-bashers who hate the atheists with a passion bordering on the psychotic.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
24 Jun 2019, 18:08
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24 Jun 2019, 18:08#2

I'm an atheist as well Rooinek and my views are very similar to your own. There is in my view no god to hate. All mankind's struggles are either naturally occurring or self inflicted. All mankind's successes and failures their own to keep without a good needed to take the credit or the blame. 

I don't hate god or anyone who believes in god. I've no problem with people believing in god, or saying they have been inspired by god in their achievements. 

Atheism is simply the lack of belief in the existence of a god/gods. As much as some others would like to define it as something else its not. There is no requirement to hate gods or anyone else for that matter. 


   

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Jun 2019, 19:23
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24 Jun 2019, 19:23#3
And Peeper you have not mocked the religious beliefs of your fellow posters? Belittled them? Aggressively? So where do those attacks originate from......from indifference, from tiny little feelings of intellectual superiority.....or from genuine dislike of the values of religious people. I'd bet from the last two, and in the latter case from something pretty close to hate. Nice bit of hypocrisy!
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Jun 2019, 20:21
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24 Jun 2019, 20:21#4
Rooinek, I said you hate God and later included Sharkbok as a God hater.. I did not say atheists hate God, but there are a lot of God haters hiding amongst atheists...and I won't "Bible-bash" anyone if you "Christian-bashers" stop your constant barrage. I have no problem with anyone believing or disbelieving anything. Some of my best friends are atheists or agnostics.
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CeradynePro9,374 posts
24 Jun 2019, 20:27
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24 Jun 2019, 20:27#5
“Atheism is simply the lack of belief in the existence of a god/gods. As much as some others would like to define it as something else its not. There is no requirement to hate gods or anyone else for that matter. ” Why then do atheists always seem to have this craving to try and prove to believers, and particularly Christians, that the Bible is a load of made up BS and that the preachings in the Bible are evil, etc, etc. ? Then there are also the constant efforts of trying to misrepresent the teachings of the Bible and the Gospel.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
24 Jun 2019, 21:22
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24 Jun 2019, 21:22#6

What a load of utter BS rooitwit. You hatred of God is legendary. Why after all these many years are you pretending otherwise you big FRAUD.

Perhaps not all atheists are hostile to anything related to God but most are. Many atheists are actually Satanists who have still to come out of the closet.

Those figures i posted show atheists number around a mere 300 million in the world to day. They make a big noise but are actually a small fringe element of loons.

Why did those atheist loons who don't believe in God and don't believe in Hell fire Folau then. The vast majority of atheists hate Christianity and want to do away with Christian values and even Christians themselves. They will side with anybody who is against Christianity. Hence the Satanic Globalist alliance with islam and with Marxism.

Sorry rooitwit your actions over some two decades give you away. Be who you are as adding deceipt makes it even worse.

Hope you watched the Dr Turley clip regarding the world wide push back against globalist backed LGBT. Posted under the Folau thread.

At last there is a huge backlash against all this perversion. Go and look at the comments of bloggers i posted under the Folau thread. See their concern for their kids etc.





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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
24 Jun 2019, 22:04
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24 Jun 2019, 22:04#7

Hi Ceradyne

That's because some atheists are assholes plain and simple, they do go out of their way to mock religious people an use atheism as a badge of intellectual superiority.

Being atheist is simply just a lack of belief in gods. It's not what makes a person good or bad .





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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
24 Jun 2019, 22:09
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24 Jun 2019, 22:09#8

Hi Beeno

I'm actually curious when you say many atheists are Satanists..I assume if you believe in s atan you have to at least believe god exists. I thought it was Satanists reject god than not believing in him. After all isn't Satan one of gods fallen angels?

I really don't see how Atheism and Satanism are compatible?


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
24 Jun 2019, 22:18
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24 Jun 2019, 22:18#9
'That's because some atheists are assholes plain and simple, they do go out of their way to mock religious people an use atheism as a badge of intellectual superiority. ' Spot on Stav. Unfortunately that's perhaps the best description of Rooinek rendered on the Board. People have a right to believe or not believe what they wish. None of us have a clue how we got to participate in this magnificent existence. But we are all very lucky, everyone achieving existence at far higher odds against than any lottery ever run. Enjoy it, live decently and have some empathy for your fellow travellers.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
24 Jun 2019, 22:38
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24 Jun 2019, 22:38#10

Satanists are not devil worshipers...that's   Luciferianism.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
24 Jun 2019, 23:47
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24 Jun 2019, 23:47#11
“Posted by: Stavanger1 (33 posts) Jun 24, 2019, 22:04 Hi Ceradyne That's because some atheists are assholes plain and simple...” Point taken. You have those among believers as well. I have made this point many times before. I do not believe in the idea of street corner preachers with the sole purpose of converting each and every non believer. The Bible teaches me in the book of Revelations that the Lord knocks on your door and if (you exercise your own, God given, choice and...) you invite Him in, he will come in and have dinner with you. If God do not even kick your door in and force Himself in, who am I to (try and) force you into believing?
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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
25 Jun 2019, 01:07
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25 Jun 2019, 01:07#12

I invited God in, but he never shows up to have dinner. 

If you delude yourself so much or take magic mushrooms you could end up having Dinner with God.


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Jun 2019, 02:47
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25 Jun 2019, 02:47#13

It depends on your perception of God......perhaps he was there looking at you but you were blinded, even so I find it hard to understand why you'd care to invite an unwelcome guest.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Jun 2019, 06:54
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25 Jun 2019, 06:54#14

God is not the old bearded dude on a cloud....we cannot even properly understand the universe, yet we want to put the Creator of it all into a specific box? Arrogant to the extreme.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Jun 2019, 07:27
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25 Jun 2019, 07:27#15
"Atheism is simply the lack of belief in the existence of a god/gods. As much as some others would like to define it as something else its not. There is no requirement to hate gods or anyone else for that matter."
Exactly . . . but good luck trying to get that through the immensely thick skulls of some of our resident bible-bashers here. They see atheism as some kind of organised cult with a manifesto to attack their bible and their christian faith.
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
25 Jun 2019, 07:44
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25 Jun 2019, 07:44#16

"That's because some atheists are assholes plain and simple.."

100% correct, don't treat all atheists the same as others 

"Point taken. You have those among believers as well."

100% correct, don't treat all Christians like Beeno


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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Jun 2019, 08:04
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25 Jun 2019, 08:04#17

My personal experiences of bible bashers is that they are pushy, why I don't get, why would you be if you're comfortable in your own skin with what you believe. I'm not sure where they find the right to force their beliefs down your throat. Earlier this year I felt forced to tell an ex school friend that if he one more time bible bashed me with text messages then I would block him on my phone. He now rarely text or rings me but even when we do speak via phone I sense his discomfort being forced to choke down on his customary bible bashing. Copped the same thing at the gym, made the mistake of passing a friendly comment to a fella who was working out next to me......oh boy, that became an invitation for him to bible bash ...plain friggin madness if you ask me.

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
25 Jun 2019, 09:25
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25 Jun 2019, 09:25#18
“Posted by: sharkbok (9179 posts) Jun 25, 2019, 01:07 I invited God in, but he never shows up to have dinner. If you delude yourself so much or take magic mushrooms you could end up having Dinner with God.” If you invite me in an serve me a plate of crap and a cup of vinegar, while telling me what a crap idea being a believer is, I may also not return.
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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
25 Jun 2019, 09:38
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25 Jun 2019, 09:38#19

"why I don't get, why would you be if you're comfortable in your own skin with what you believe. I'm not sure where they find the right to force their beliefs down your throat"

Spot on Denny

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Jun 2019, 09:44
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25 Jun 2019, 09:44#20
I had God around for dinner once.
My wife was out of town so it was just the two of us. I made my legendary twice cooked spare ribs with mash, red cabbage and some home-made pickles on the side but he didn't seem to notice because he just picked at his food and spent most of the evening with his head in his hands saying things like "what have I done?"; "I think they're on to me" and "it was good while it lasted".

It wasn't all bad though. He did turn the table water into a nice Meerlust Rubicon . . . and he washed all the dishes in a split second. He can come again . . . only he should lighten up a bit.
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Jun 2019, 09:56
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25 Jun 2019, 09:56#21
Moffie, truth is I find it very hard not to have a feeling of intellectual superiority when dealing with a semi-literate, poorly educated dolt like you.
Sorry, I know that's not what you wanted to hear but don't worry, your Servile Gimps will be along shortly to tell you how wonderful you are and bolster your fragile little ego.
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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
25 Jun 2019, 10:57
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25 Jun 2019, 10:57#22

I had a vision last night projected to me from God that Folau would continue to be a hypocrite spreading a hypocritical message. Folau will continue to apply Christianity selectively, in the hope he will get into heaven. In the meantime, he is happy to take donations from poor people to fill up his bank account. 


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
25 Jun 2019, 11:09
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25 Jun 2019, 11:09#23

Many atheists are actually Satanists who have still to come out of the closet.

Interestingly, I find my fellow atheists to be normal people just like everyone else. Some are bastards, some are kind and gentle, some are stupid, some are highly intelligent. Pretty much the same as any demographic.

One thing you will learn (and perhaps should have learned by now at your age, Beeno), is that religion cannot change a person's nature. We are who we are despite our beliefs, not because of it. A born liar can find Jesus and read the Bible every day, he'll still be liar (he'll just lie about still being one). Certain adjustments in behaviour can occur, where people learn empathy for example for those they would otherwise shun according to their beliefs, gain a better understanding about certain things and so on, but your fundamental nature isn't going to change. See how being a Christian couldn't cure your inherent bigotry, for example.

In the end, we're all just people. Religion more than anything though teaches us to create boxes to lump people into and to fear those who don't think like us - as, again, your irrational fear and demonization of atheists amply illustrates.

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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
25 Jun 2019, 11:13
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25 Jun 2019, 11:13#24

Beeno should have been a Jihad. If he was surrounded by others as brainwashed as he is, he would be in his element. 

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Jun 2019, 11:25
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25 Jun 2019, 11:25#25
"If he was surrounded by others as brainwashed as he is . . ."
The idea that anyone else on this planet might be as brainwashed as Baboon-ou requires a suspension of disbelief that I'm not sure I'm capable of.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Jun 2019, 11:26
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25 Jun 2019, 11:26#26

Pakie: "One thing you will learn (and perhaps should have learned by now at your age, Beeno), is that religion cannot change a person's nature. We are who we are despite our beliefs, not because of it. A born liar can find Jesus and read the Bible every day, he'll still be liar (he'll just lie about still being one). Certain adjustments in behaviour can occur, where people learn empathy for example for those they would otherwise shun according to their beliefs, gain a better understanding about certain things and so on, but your fundamental nature isn't going to change."

Mostly true, but I have seen some radical changes in a few people...complete transformation, but not only by religion necessarily. It is hard to let go of your human nature/instinct. It is an ongoing process.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
25 Jun 2019, 11:27
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25 Jun 2019, 11:27#27

SB your comment about inviting God reminds me of a part in a movie called "Sounder".....it's a great movie but for some reason a part of that movie has stuck with me and I'll never forget it. Chat tomorrow I'm off to watch a great game of cricket.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
25 Jun 2019, 13:01
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25 Jun 2019, 13:01#28

Sure Draad, if the motivation to change is big enough.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Jun 2019, 13:14
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25 Jun 2019, 13:14#29

That's what I meant, yes Pakie. Wasn't disagreeing ...elaborating a bit.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
25 Jun 2019, 13:20
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25 Jun 2019, 13:20#30

Gotcha

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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
25 Jun 2019, 13:53
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25 Jun 2019, 13:53#31

A God hater? Who me??

Don't mistake me for a God hater just cause I bash Christians around. I know it may seem so cause I mocked Him and called Him a homo. A tail gunner ... but that shouldn’t be construed as hate. Get a grip man. I simply don’t believe in Him ... so how can I hate Him? He's a fairy tale and who gets all het up over a fairy tale, right?

No, no ... I don’t hate you $#%^&*^%$!#$% Bible Bashers either? Don’t let my emotional rantings mislead you. I'm an emotional person and sometimes it gets the better of me.   

I started this thread to explain away the misconception you lot have of me. Remember. I did the same a few weeks back when I was accused of being a liar. Of being dishonest. Yes I know I forgot to thank all those who came to my aid, but that's just how I am.    

Besides ... I bash those who are homophobic too ... and it’s not cause I hate them. They just need to learn to accept my points of view as fact. Poo dipping is a harmless past time ... and yes, I know I used the term “gay” as an insult when referring to Jesus Christ, but I was only kidding, man. I’m actually pro homo. “Dip away boys” I always say.   

Look, I even bash those who don’t support the black man over their own people. It has nothing to do with hate. I'm not a hateful person. We must all strive to be politically correct.

Yes it may be a little confusing when I do a 180 and start complaining about the unfair labour practices these blacks enjoy. I'm just so misunderstood. 

Actually ... I’m a little confused ... I'm not sure what I believe in anymore. A feel a headache coming on.

No ... I’m not an angry man.

I don’t hate. I DON'T HATE!!!

I’m not a liar. Honest injun!!.



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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
25 Jun 2019, 15:21
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25 Jun 2019, 15:21#32

Atheists say they cannot hate some who does not exist,that means they have faith that God does not exist.

I have been in numerous chat rooms where atheists voice there hatred against me and against the concept of God in scripture,as if the God of scripture was separate from the God I serve.As Rooinek says "how can I hate God"..... as if we Christians must sought out the conundrum they have placed around their own necks.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Jun 2019, 15:26
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25 Jun 2019, 15:26#33
". . . as if we Christians must sought (sic) out the conundrum they have placed around their own necks."
What conundrum? The only question I've asked (and still haven't had an answer to) is how can an atheist (or anyone for that matter) hate something that they don't believe exists? 
Forget the religious element for a moment and substitute "tooth fairy" for "god" . . . and then try answer the actual question I've asked about 4 times already. Thanks in anticipation.
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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
25 Jun 2019, 15:42
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25 Jun 2019, 15:42#34

Another problem facing atheists is they cannot read or don't want to read,like a horse with blinkers on.I must answer why they call Christians all sorts of names and deride the God of the Bible,definitely is not love.If Folau had penny for every insult directed towards Christians on the web and towards the God they represent then he could buy his own rugby team.Think I recall you personally calling Jesus all sorts of names,did you forget?

Why don't you stand on the town square in Sau di Arabia and call Mohammed all sorts of names big boy.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Jun 2019, 15:58
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25 Jun 2019, 15:58#35
"Think I recall you personally calling Jesus all sorts of names,did you forget?"
Yes, I must have forgotten. What were all these names I called him?
PS Gla d to see you managed to "sought" out the spelling of a simple 4 letter word. Now you just need to work on your spacing after punctuation and then you can start lecturing other people on how to read and write without making a fool of yourself.
PPS You keep editing your post and adding to it so it's hard to answer all your questions. Saudi Arabia is not a town, it's a country . . . so there's one reason. Your geography isn't much better than your punctuation.
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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
25 Jun 2019, 16:19
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25 Jun 2019, 16:19#36
Jews that think they are God's people are extremely irritating. They believe that God will return to the Earth and make them the rightful Kings of the Earth...  It is not much different with Christians who stole the Bible from the Jews, and just added a few edits. 

Religion is a primitive past time of childish stories about good vs evil- as if it was written for a child or simpleton that can't work out the difference between right or wrong yet. 

If people believed in Santa or the tooth fairy, it is possible to hate these people - even if you do not believe in Santa or the tooth fairy. 





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MoonroverPro1,973 posts
25 Jun 2019, 16:35
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25 Jun 2019, 16:35#37
Ole Rooinek ,still stuck in that same mud pile that I read about some time ago,enjoy.
O,yea Sharkbok ....all three religions(Islam,Christianity,Judaism) recognize Abraham........from there we tend to change but most of us have respect for one another ,especially in South Africa.
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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
25 Jun 2019, 16:45
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25 Jun 2019, 16:45#38
Well SharkShit, if the Bible was aimed at simpletons you'd have grasped it by now ... I think.


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CleanCutPro9,905 posts
25 Jun 2019, 16:52
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25 Jun 2019, 16:52#39

I've answered your question, Redneck.

How many times are you going to ask the same stupid question?

My response isn't going to differ ... or is that the problem. Were you hoping for something else?



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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Jun 2019, 17:35
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25 Jun 2019, 17:35#40
". . . all three religions(Islam,Christianity,Judaism)recognize Abraham"
All three?
LMAO!
Listen to this blinkered and brainwashed fool. In one line he writes off the 1.5 billion people on this planet who believe in Buddhism and Hinduism not to mention another sizeable chunk of the world's population who believe in Confucianism, Shinto, Taoism, Sikhism and literally hundreds of other religions.
"All three religions"
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha!
Tells me everything I need to know about Goonrover 's level of intellect and his tolerance for beliefs that are different to his own.
Still waiting for all these naughty names that I allegedly called Jesus, Goon. Did you forget?
LMAO!
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