You asked for some info on Lazar.
Here is Rogan's interview with David Fravor. He was the squadron leader for, wait for it...The Black Aces.
Tell me that isn't the coolest name ever.
Anyhow, this guy is as legit as legit gets.
Very interesting interview.
https:// youtube.com/watch?v=Eco2s3-0zsQ
Thanks Plum. i checked the first 20...will view the rest later. Interesting and almost certainly 100% legit.
Not so sure about that 100% anymore.
Doesn't make much of a difference. He's just recounting what somebody told him, after being asked by Joe if he knows of similar stories.
Like Joe said, they don't entrust $70 million jets to crazy people. And if they did, those crazy people don't generally retire as decorated veterans after long careers.
Rather look at what is there. Like the video, interviews with the radar operators on the ship, multiple pilot accounts of the same event, the research done on this in AATIP and the testimony of the guy that ran it.
Look closely when explains what's happening with the tracking system on the video, then remember that the Navy confirmed the authenticity of the footage.
My feeling is that this could be disinformation . I can't see how else this could be nonsense.
And if it is disinformation. That's intreaguing already.
Space Force is beginning man.
Ok, so lets follow the logic train.
The most reasonable explanation is that these crafts are Russian, German or Chinese.
They have been reported since at least WW2 by credible pilots from both sides of the conflict.
Characteristics have not changed. Since day one they have been said to have manoeuvring capabilities at forces/speeds that would kill any human pilot. They have no visible signs of propulsion and no discernible fixed or other wing. Erratic movements, none of the mandatory flight lights and more often than not completely silent. None of this has changed in the last 80 years of reports.
This suggests that it's not a new phenomenon.
But lets assume that one of the other nations have had this in their inventory for just the last twenty years.
How is it that none of those nations have ever used it to their advantage? Even using it as a threat would be a massive advantage. Why would Russia not get their craft out while the USA build nuclear silo after nuclear silo all along their western border?
Why would China not use this technology to gain the military and subsequent economic advantage that these craft would certainly provide?
Just one craft like this, could wipe out the entire US naval carrier fleet. It makes aircraft carriers entirely obsolete because a weapon delivery system that is able to deliver tactical nukes unopposed is basically an unstoppable force. Something that drops down from 80 000 thousand feet to 10 feet above sea level within a second, is literally unstoppable by any weepon or craft in the known inventory of any nation. And obviously, if this tech is from earth, then whatever country developed it would not only create one, unless it was made from some very special material of which there was an extremely limited supply. They'd likely have a fleet of these. In other words, be entirely and by far the most powerful airforce in the world.
If these "other" nations had this tech, why would they happily settle for being lower down on the food chain? I can't think of a single reason.
And further, why wait until the rest of the world catches up and risk losing the massive advantage? It makes zero sense.
It would only make sense to keep this under wraps if you were already militarily superior. For the last 100 years, the only nation that would find value in keeping this tech hidden would be the USA or one of its very close allies. Unless it's some secret corporation that is holding world governments to ransom under the threat of complete annihilation by UFO. Highly unlikely.
It's fine to assume that these might be human built and belonging to someone else, but then you need to follow that argument through and show how it fits into the real world.
These supposedly logical arguments make very little sense once you consider them for any length of time.
"Unless it's some secret corporation that is holding world governments to ransom under the threat of complete annihilation by UFO. Highly unlikely. "
Not that unlikely. If you really start to look at the world with eyes open to everything, you realize that some things doesn't make sense....and that we have been lied to about a few things...probably a lot of things. Then some of the conspiracy theories doesn't look so far fetched any more. Some actually look logically probable.
Back to topic. It's highly unlikely that the US government have no idea what these things are....the simplest solution is normally the correct one.
What do you reckon they are, Draad?
I think most governments and their militaries have been studying it for a a good long time. Even if they don't know what it is or where It comes from, me feeling is that they have tons of solid data on them.
The fact it has been hidden is scary on both fronts. If the elites are keeping technology secret for personal gain, that's certainly bad. If they're keeping it secret because it actually poses some real threat, I think that might be worse. I don't think I wanna meet Darth Vadar...ever haha
Luckily earth is likely not a very special habitat. I mean, most minerals are probably pretty freely available in the universe so at least there is a good chance were not sitting on something special that some outside force might want to wipe us out for.
I think aliens is a possible answer, but some sort of shadow splinter group of humans might be just as plausible. That Tic Tac craft ?reminds me of the craft in some sci-fi movie I forgot the name of.
What I do know is that there are going on a lot more on this planet than what we are aware of. The technological age on Earth is still in it's infancy and there are an infinite amount of possibilities yet to be explored. Limiting your world view to what can currently be proven by science is plain stupid.
We live in exiting times, but our kids will see even more fantastical developments over the next 50 years.
The Navy cryptically says it has top-secret UFO briefings that would cause 'exceptionally grave damage' to US national security if published...
Tom DL rates 2020 will be a big year for this stuff.
They say that every year though.
Draad, have you read the book Behold A Pale Horse?
It's by Bill Cooper. He worked for and held high positions within naval intelligence. Kind of the granddaddy of this stuff. Strangely all the guys that have verified high ranking roles within the army, air force or navy, all agree that to garner consent for weaponising space they'll use a false flag attack.
My feeling is that these reports and videos are either ET, or it's all disinformation with the aim of priming the public for accepting an alien threat.
The stupid thing is...if they have the tech to come here, it's quite obvious that they'd be able to destroy humans in no time at all.
On the other hand, people are stupid.
Imagine if a flying saucer was filmed blowing up the Whitehouse? Everyone would instantly believe aliens exist and are evil, handing over our last bit of freedom to governments that promise to protect us.
They paradigm shift would seemingly have a positive effect in changing our perspective on fighting each other...yet in so doing make us much more accepting of a single world government. Which is probably the goal.
Plum, I don't know if I have read it, but I know about Bill, Lazar, Corso, etc. and I have read some of the stuff over the years. I read it as fiction with the possibility that there are some aspects of truth in there. Dis-info and misdirection. It will be fantastic if the real truth is revealed at some stage...there is definitely more to the subject than what they are telling us.
Draad,
Gooi the book on audio version.
It's worth a go.
The guy predicted he'd be killed and was. Predicted 9/11 and was gunned down by two cops outside his house soon after.
Lots of mad stuff in his book. How much is true? Who knows :/