Black Lives Matter Spreads to UK and the rest of the world

A police officer was punched in the UK a Mob broke into a fight. People were throwing bottles- up against a wall of police officers with shields and ba ttons. 

Last year police sadly killed 41 unarmed people.....20 white, 10 black. Eighty nine policemen were  killed in the line of duty. The average person has little idea of the conditions these brave men experience every day. Those conditions create attitudes that occasionally result in tragedies....on both sides of the confrontation.

The irony of the BLM campaign of course is that blacks kill more of their own than whites could ever hope to. Even during the much maligned apartheid here in SA, far more blacks died at black hands than at white hands. It wasn't the Vlakplaas lads necklacing black people in the townships. It wasn't white people raping women and young girls in the ANC military training camps.

These things don't fit the comfortable and simplistic narrative of the evil white man beating on the innocent black man though. Let's not complicate things for the masses. Let's keep it simple. White man bad, do many bad things to black man. Black man good, do no bad things to white or black man.

Mozart

Although what happened is definitely wrong in the Floyd case and everyone agrees with that - the fact is that the peaceful demonstration has been abused  by criminals and by rhe anarchists and communists associated with Antifa.   

That is a very dangerous organization with links to the Democrats - they have been protected by some DP Mayors when they rioted in other cities last year, and some DP members openly side with them - especially the Democratic Socialists,    Why are there so many young Whites n the protests and why the violence attached to it?   Why are these people provided with petrol bombs  and frozen water in bottles.     

I am afraid this is a bit much on the election year to take for granted,  One wonders whether what happened is just used for political purposes and why it in fact happened.   The riots seemed to be well-organized and that bothers me a lot.

Is it not time for people to realize that what is happening is total destruction of democracy through mob rule.                    

Don't worry Trumpanzees, your hero will be safe when the naughty liberals riot and loot. He'll be safe in his bunker that he's already tested out.

Bozo the Blubbering Bunker Bitch!

LMAO!

What a stupid name for a group.

"We matter."

It's charged with insult and victimhood all at once. 

No wonder they're only ever taken seriously when they're involved with riots and violence. 

Well said, Pakie.

These riots are an excuse to loot and destroy. We've seen it so many times here under some guise or another.

The few that stand up for a good cause are totally out numbered by the masses whose only interest is to take things that don't belong to them and to destroy things just for the sake it.

95% of these thugs are black. One wonders whether the modern day black man who's fortunate enough to live in a 1st world country  is any different to the primative tribalistic natives of Africa?

I for one am grateful for these riots and protesters as they've apparently cured Covid 19.

They've helped me understand that if I want to gather with others or go to the mall, I don't need a mask or gloves. A brick will suffice.

On a serious note though, if there isn't a spike of cases over the next 2 to 3 weeks then all the shutdowns and economic crisis has been for nought. 

Some narratives are about to crumble.

All lives matter but some lives matter more than others. 

Hmmmm, where have I seen that thinking before?

Two legs baaaaad!

Oink oink

Floyd's life mattered enough for protests to start. Those same protestors are now killing more black people, whose lives apparently don't matter under the "black lives matter" banner. If they're in the way, they die.

No one has to say anything. The double standard is obvious.

Okay, but I'm asking where anyone is claiming some lives matter more than others. Not just "matters", "matters more" because only then would xavi's reference to Animal Farm have any relevance.

You don't have to preach to me about the double standards being applied here. I posted a graph on this thread showing what a tiny percentage of murders are committed by whites on blacks compared to blacks on blacks and blacks on whites. It's outdated but I doubt the numbers have changed a lot in the last 7 years.

Let's be honest, the single biggest reason the whole world has gone apeshit about George Floyd is because someone got such graphic footage of the incident on his phone and the clip went viral on social media. If it wasn't for that we wouldn't even know it happened, it would have been a small article in some local newspaper.

@ Rooinek.

It's more about the media coverage related to covid 19.

When it's BLM protesting, it's fine but anybody else ..... you're k illing granny.

Ok.

I've watched a few videos with the same presenter and while I still find him opinionated, irritating and very selective (not quite as bad as Mark Dice but in the same ballpark), I can't disagree with him in this case. 

The hypocrisy is staggering. It's okay for Brits to break all the social distancing rules because of something that a cop did in another country thousands of miles away . . . but don't go visit your mom or dad or else you'll get arrested. It's a joke.    

Agreed.

Some poor bloke on Twitter commented on a photo of the Hyde Park gathering that he was pissed as his mom had passed away and they could not give her the funeral she wanted and they could only have 10 mourners present while this was ok. 

He was shot down as being part of the "problem" and so on by those more "woke" members of society and that George Floyds death was more important. 

Smh

I believe in everyone's right to protest anything that they are against

But the minute they use that protest as an opportunity to steal a new flat screen TV, or use violence against others, in any way.....then you have lost my attention and my respect for what you are fighting for

After 8 years when he did zero for ordinary people in the USA, Obama now encouraging people to keep "protesting",  while knowing full well that riots result when the criminals and Antifa with close ties with the Democrat Socialists, take over the protests. and start riots,    

The first step of the Democrats is submitting legislation  aimed at the Police why some preach that there is no need for Police in the USA,   How loonie can people get?      .          

It is a fact that "Black Lives Matter" but why only in western countries and not on the African continent.

It would be great to have some data on the number of deaths in the African countries caused by Political, Police and criminal activity.

Sure Rooinek and his sidekick will oblige with all the details.

The number of blacks that are murdered each year in Chicago and Detroit is well know but swept under the rug at all times and especially when a black person is killed and they wish to use the tragedy for political gain.

Finally, it is also true that "All Lives Matter including White Lives" but it appears that whites in Africa are expendable without ever making the local TV news or newspaper.

Could it be racial or just the savage criminal nature of the so-called  "original" inhabitants in southern Africa?

Both I would suggest.

https://youtu.be/1csr0dxalpI

All lives matter...it depends on

1) The context

2) The era

3) The true salvation 

4) The most important...honesty and sincerity towards people we want to love but struggle because of their inabilities or unwillingness to reciprocate

PS I do not drink alcohol anymore. I foolishly took too many Deloxene tablets. Elena my beloved wife went through the Covid 19 drama : her dad had cancer and a stroke in Moscow: he has now died ...the cause...elevated pneumonia.

Elena has come through...praise God.

There is a poem...called "Death be not proud" Look it up if your intellect does not know it...horrors !,,,I think John Donne.

Fighting on the border my mate got a third eye...very young its not easy and a lot of questions.

What I do see today is cowardice,,,blatant and frightening...manhood losing manhood...just play rugby/toughness but huge security with payouts if you are wounded.

It's not very brave and snow flake stuff stuff.

Posted by: AJH (662 posts)

Jun 08, 2020, 17:41

It is a fact that "Black Lives Matter" but why only in western countries and not on the African continent.

It would be great to have some data on the number of deaths in the African countries caused by Political, Police and criminal activity.

Sure Rooinek and his sidekick will oblige with all the details.

They won’t. It doesn’t fit the narrative. 

The number of blacks that are murdered each year in Chicago and Detroit is well know but swept under the rug at all times and especially when a black person is killed and they wish to use the tragedy for political gain.

Read this USA Today article:

Democrats have run Minneapolis for generations. Why is there still systemic racism?

Is it fair for Democrats to characterize Republicans or conservatives as racists or racially insensitive without taking their share of the blame?

GEORGE KORDA | KNOXVILLE NEWS SENTINEL | 5:00 am EDT June 6, 2020

My home town newspaper published a front-page photo on Wednesday with a caption about protests against "systemic police brutality against people of color."

Systemic racism is being discussed a great deal in the wake of George Floyd’s death under the knee of now-former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin.

The video of Chauvin’s knee on Floyd’s neck for nearly nine minutes, as Floyd repeatedly said he couldn’t breathe, has ignited protests peaceful and violent, with the tragedy also being used by some as a way to destroy, steal — and worse. In one case, looters in St. Louis shot and killed David Dorn, a highly respected black retired police captain, as he was trying to protect a pawn shop.

It’s likely — just as it’s likely the sun comes up in the west — that when a good many people say “systemic racism,” they’re not including the politicians they like and the political party they favor.

One way to tell? Their attitude toward who has been running the systems.

On social media the other day, in discussions of George Floyd’s death, I saw an increasing number of references from Democrats and Democratic friends about the problem of systemic racism. I wrote the following post, citing only a few municipal examples:

“Below are pertinent questions, given the way the Democratic Party defines itself as being the party of tolerance and inclusion, and many Democrats' characterizations of Republicans or conservatives as racists or racially insensitive.

"Minneapolis, Minn. has been under Democratic control since 1978. Chicago has been under Democratic control for 89 years; its present mayor is a black woman. Philadelphia has had Democratic mayors for 68 years; three of its last five mayors have been black men. Six of the last seven Atlanta, Ga., mayoral administrations were led by black Democratic mayors, and the present mayor is a black woman.

"A city runs its police department and other services; therefore, if there is so much 'systemic racism' in these organizations, why hasn't it been corrected over so many years under Democratic leaders?

"Why aren't these cities garden spots of racial tolerance, understanding, and virtue?"

There have been no answers.

In the wake of the 2015 riots in Baltimore after the death in police custody of a black man named Freddie Gray, CNN anchor Chris Cuomo interviewed black Baltimore City Councilman Nick Mosby, a Democrat.

Mosby’s answer, particularly to Cuomo’s last question below, is instructive, in that it’s clear he wasn’t expecting it:

MOSBY: This is much more than Freddie Gray. Freddie Gray was the culmination of, again, decades – the young guys out here showing their frustration and venting, being angry and doing it in an unproductive way, they are carrying their father's burden. They're carrying their grandfather's burden. Again this is generations old of failed policies and broken promises.

CUOMO: You are a Democrat, right?

MOSBY: Yes.

CUOMO: Is this on you guys? The mayor is a Democrat, you're a Democrat, 50 years of Democratic rule here, and is this an idea that you haven't gotten it done as a party, as a structure here, and is that the focus on the blame?

MOSBY: Leadership is not based off of party lines, and at the end of the day, have individuals failed in this city, in this state, in this country? Yes. Have there been failed policies? Yes. Have things adversely affected places like Baltimore? Yes, whether you're talking about Reaganomics, whether you're talking about the contraband where they talk about stop and frisk procedures or mass incarceration. All of these things directly play into recidivism and play into the things that plague these communities. So it's all about leadership and not necessarily about parties.

That’s a lengthy, rambling way around the barn to say he wasn’t going to give a specific answer to a direct question, because it’s about the party to which he belongs. However, if you go to the City of Baltimore’s website and click on the government directory, under "P" you’ll find the Baltimore Police Department, because it’s the city of Baltimore’s responsibility.

Cuomo’s question was pertinent. It went unanswered.

Why do we not want a knee on George Floyd’s neck? Not only because it’s wrong, but because we don’t want one on ours. If we want our rights respected, we must respect — and protect — the rights of others.

Unfortunately, in too many cases when people say they want an open and honest discussion about race in America, what they mean is they want an open and honest discussion only about what they say is wrong with people who aren’t them.

When people talk about the need to deal with systemic racism, if they’re not willing to talk about the systems run — often for generations by the political party or politicians they support — they aren’t interested in an open and honest conversation; instead, they want only to use the issue as a club against people who aren’t them.

If that’s the case, we’re condemned to never get off this tragedy of a merry-go-round.

George Korda is a political analyst for WATE-TV, hosts “State Your Case” from noon to 2 p.m. Sundays on WOKI-FM Newstalk 98.7 and is president of Korda Communications, a public relations and communications consulting firm. This column first appeared in the Knoxville News-Sentinel.