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Climate rules being rolled back

Started by Mozart10 REPLIES362 VIEWS· 22 Sept 2023, 13:19
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Sept 2023, 13:19
#1
22 Sept 2023, 13:19#1

This from Reuters 


This week saw potentially significant rollbacks in emissions reduction commitments by Britain and the EU, diluting net zero pledges and scaling back legislation.

 

British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak announced a delay in the ban on sales of new petrol cars, while the EU debates weaker emissions regulations for combustion engine vehicles.

 

Sunak said the change was to ease "unacceptable costs" on British households from the energy transition, causing him to push back the ban on new petrol and diesel cars to 2035 from 2030. He also said he would ease the transition to heat pumps from gas boilers in homes, adding that he would not force any household to improve their insulation.

 

"This looks chaotic and not the way long-term policy should be made around important issues, with emergency cabinet meetings and investors spooked," said Jess Ralston, energy analyst at the Energy and Climate Intelligence Unit.

 

"The implication that any of these policies were going to affect the cost of living here and now is untrue. In fact, the PM has sided with landlords over renters, putting their energy bills and cost of living up by ducking the improvement of rules on energy efficiency," she added.

 

In Europe, France, Italy and the Czech Republic were among eight countries pushing to weaken new EU emissions limits on combustion engine vehicles. A draft document said some countries had requested the weaker rules, without naming them.

 

Clean transport NGO, Transport and Environment, said they had "caved into automaker threats...condemning people to avoidable ill health and premature death for decades to come".


……..it inevitably had to happen. There is no way we will  have the infrastructure to charge all those cars in the big cities before the arbitrary deadlines. Last year I saw an electric cord over a pavement into a basement charging a Porsche Taycan in London. 


Nor can we shift the power generation that fast,,,we spent 120 years building that infrastructure….as windmills run into technical problems and solar lags.


Expect more fanatics glued to bridges.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
22 Sept 2023, 17:19
#2
22 Sept 2023, 17:19#2

Big surprise.

ST
Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
22 Sept 2023, 18:02
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22 Sept 2023, 18:02#3

Sunak proving how crap he is at politics yet again by misreading the results of the Uxbridge by election. 

Labour will just undo this nonsense next year when they get into power.


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sharkbokCaptain23,197 posts
22 Sept 2023, 18:04
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22 Sept 2023, 18:04#4
Buying oil from authoritarian countries, is just funding them. (e.g. Iran, Russia)

Until oil is no longer used by Democratic countries, they need to be self-sufficient and produce oil themselves - and gas.
If oil is going to be purchased, rather have Democratic countries produce their own oil - until cleaner energy is cheaper on a like for like basis. 

Alaska or other oil rich places need to be mined to increase the supply of energy in the world market to drive down prices (supply/demand). This will also weaken authoritarian countries on the world stage, as all they have are natural assets to sell. 

Instead of sanctions, Democratic countries should give preferred supplier status to each other, so it is rewarding each other, instead of punishing others. 
Then only purchase stuff from non-Democratic countries when it is essential.

Make it Democratic countries first. 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Sept 2023, 21:55
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22 Sept 2023, 21:55#5

Eight billion lives are totally dependent on oil. The alternatives except nuclear  are unproven at scale. So does it make sense to be careful about banning oil’s use….you betcha , but only if you care about human lives.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Sept 2023, 21:56
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22 Sept 2023, 21:56#6

Eight billion lives are totally dependent on oil. The alternatives except nuclear  are unproven at scale. So does it make sense to be careful about banning oil’s use….you betcha , but only if you care about human lives.

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Sept 2023, 08:50
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23 Sept 2023, 08:50#7

Mozart

In the meantime in South  Africa  winter in large parts of the country started in March 2023  and is continuing  into Late September 2023,   We had snow in a large part of S A  and in Namibia  only last week.    When is it going to end is a regular question asked in SA.   

There were 2 idiot scientists (Drs Murray Mitchell and Martin Roodewald)  who first caused panic about the start of the new ice age in the 1970's and be in full ice age in evidence by 1985 covering with  snow a large part of the world except around the equator,   When there is no ice age to be then there must be global warming  - so they became the foremost scientists advocating global warming in the  1990's and he is still ongoing with panic spreading  in that regard even though he is in his 80's .   Will taking into account cooling in large part of the world they are  going to switch back to forecast an approaching ice age again?  .          

Surprisingly last week it was unbearable in New York with th e temperature being 30 degrees and the humidity deep in the nineties.   That does not represent a heat wave - but it is very unpleasant and unbearable due t the humidity.   It has nothing to do with global warming though.   By the way in SA if the humiditure reading is over 100 outdoor work nowadays is forbidden and that happens mostly in KwaZulu/Natal in summer.       

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Sept 2023, 08:50
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23 Sept 2023, 08:50#8

Mozart

In the meantime in South  Africa  winter in large parts of the country started in March 2023  and is continuing  into Late September 2023,   We had snow in a large part of S A  and in Namibia  only last week.    When is it going to end is a regular question asked in SA.   

There were 2 idiot scientists (Drs Murray Mitchell and Martin Roodewald)  who first caused panic about the start of the new ice age in the 1970's and be in full ice age in evidence by 1985 covering with  snow a large part of the world except around the equator,   When there is no ice age to be then there must be global warming  - so they became the foremost scientists advocating global warming in the  1990's and he is still ongoing with panic spreading  in that regard even though he is in his 80's .   Will taking into account cooling in large part of the world they are  going to switch back to forecast an approaching ice age again?  .          

Surprisingly last week it was unbearable in New York with th e temperature being 30 degrees and the humidity deep in the nineties.   That does not represent a heat wave - but it is very unpleasant and unbearable due t the humidity.   It has nothing to do with global warming though.   By the way in SA if the humiditure reading is over 100 outdoor work nowadays is forbidden and that happens mostly in KwaZulu/Natal in summer.       

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Sept 2023, 08:50
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23 Sept 2023, 08:50#9


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Sept 2023, 08:50
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23 Sept 2023, 08:50#10


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Sept 2023, 08:50
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