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Crumbling Johannesburg gets a rushed makeover as G20 looms

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
17 Nov 2025, 02:27
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17 Nov 2025, 02:27#1
Crumbling Johannesburg gets a rushed makeover as G20 looms

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President Ramaphosa has defended the £31 million clean-up of a city mired in drugs, corruption and decaying infrastructure and has promised to maintain it

Workers remove informal structures occupied by the homeless as part of Johannesburg’s clean-up campaign

ALET PRETORIUS/REUTERS

Kate Bartlett, Johannesburg

Sunday November 16 2025, 11.00pm GMT, The Times

Vhutshilo, an Uber driver, gestures with annoyance at workers busily planting flowers along the verge of a major road into Sandton, a glitzy Johannesburg suburb known as Africa’s richest square mile. “You see this,” he says, “it shows they do have resources.”

His gripe is that the government is only spending money and getting things done to impress foreign visitors before the G20 summit next weekend, while the city’s steady decay has been ignored for years and millions of its residents suffer frequent electricity and water cuts, even in the wealthy suburbs.

Hosting the conference is costing the country about £31 million, of which urban improvement is only a part. While most cities preparing for high-profile events may attempt to present their best image, the cosmetic clean-up of Johannesburg has been likened to the creation of a Potemkin village.

Municipal workers “beautify” the city

JEROME DELAY/AP

Hidden from the view of the motorcades that will carry Sir Keir Starmer and other heads of some of the richest countries in the world will be the formerly trendy suburb of Hillbrow.

Here, rubbish piles up outside abandoned husks of buildings taken over by gangs and addicts save money by “bluetoothing” — injecting themselves with blood drawn from another user already high on nyaope, a drug made from rat poison, HIV medicine and low-grade heroin.

Prodded by President Ramaphosa, who lives in Johannesburg but expressed “shock” at its dilapidated state when the summit loomed, the municipality says there has been “a major overhaul of the electricity network, with over 30 substations undergoing maintenance and upgrades” and a strengthening of “critical water infrastructure”.

President Ramaphosa

XABISO MKHABELA/XINHUA/ALAMY

Ramaphosa, left, plants trees in Walter Sisulu Square in Kliptown, Soweto

After apartheid, infrastructure once only intended for the white minority suddenly had to serve the majority, placing it under strain. In more recent years barely functional municipal coalition governments, corruption and a revolving door of mayors have only spurred the rot of what was once known in Zulu as “Egoli”, or the City of Gold.

Meet South Africa’s ‘iron lady’ fighting to save Johannesburg

In the run-up to the G20 Johannesburg city council has been fixing dozens of broken traffic lights, filling potholes and resurfacing roads, while “beautification initiatives are ongoing”.

Roadworks in Braamfontein, Johannesburg

EMMANUEL CROSET/AFP/GETTY IMAGES

Johannesburg’s pothole problem is so bad that residents have wryly taken to spray-painting the craters with “thank you ANC”, in reference to the African National Congress. In a stunt this year the Democratic Alliance (DA), which is part of a coalition government, held a birthday party, with a cake, for a particularly large hole that had been dug by maintenance workers a year before and had remained untouched.

In July the mayor of Johannesburg, Dada Morero, declared “a war on potholes” after promising to “make Joburg great again”.

The revamp isn’t cheap. Last week the finance minister, Enoch Godongwana, announced he was increasing the budget of the Department of International Relations and Co-operation by £4.4 million to fill a G20 funding shortfall.

South Africa has a youth unemployment rate of about 50 per cent. It also has some of the highest crime rates in the world, especially gender-based violence, with a woman being murdered every two and half hours. The ANC has failed to get a handle on crime and women’s rights groups are planning a nationwide “shutdown” on Friday before the meeting to draw attention to the crisis.

A woman and her children in an informal settlement in central Johannesburg

PER-ANDERS PETTERSSON/GETTY IMAGES

The hosting of the event has been mired in controversy. President Trump, who berated Ramaphosa during his visit to the Oval Office in May, is boycotting it because he says the government is seizing white-owned land and allowing the “slaughter” of Afrikaners, both false claims, while objecting to the summit’s theme of solidarity, equality and sustainability.

President Ramaphosa and President Trump at the White House in May

KEVIN LAMARQUE/REUTERS

Even two of South Africa’s great allies, China’s President Xi and Russia’s President Putin, aren’t coming. The former, for reasons unknown, is sending his number two, while the latter faces arrest under an International Criminal Court warrant over Ukraine.

At home there has also been disgruntlement. The right-wing Afrikaner group Solidarity, in efforts to tarnish the event, last week installed huge billboards outside the G20 venue welcoming delegates to “the most race-regulated country in the world”, a reference to South Africa’s black economic empowerment laws, loathed by the billionaire Elon Musk, who was born in Pretoria.

The billboards were swiftly taken down by the local government, which said Solidarity didn’t have the necessary permission.

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After criticism in parliament from the DA, Ramaphosa defended Johannesburg’s revamp, saying: “In any household when visitors come they do a cleaning up.”

Ramaphosa, who donned worker’s overalls to participate in one of the clean-up events, symbolically planting trees last week, insists the work to fix Johannesburg will continue after the guests depart. “As they leave, we must then insist that what we have done and seen done must continue,” he vowed.

Vhutshilo is sceptical. “They don’t care about ordinary people,” he said.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
17 Nov 2025, 06:08
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17 Nov 2025, 06:08#2

Pity they're not sweeping up the ANC as well.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
17 Nov 2025, 08:53
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17 Nov 2025, 08:53#3

Pity they're not sweeping up the ANC as well.

You could have stayed here and tried to make a real difference, instead of running away like the coward you are....trying to pretend that you really care from 12 000km away.

Your constant criticism of the ANC is a bloody farce ....... the ANC are doing your work for you, they are killing off the White man..... just a bit more slowly than how quickly you personally wanted to do it so many times before.......

Birds of a feather and all that.......


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
17 Nov 2025, 12:20
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17 Nov 2025, 12:20#4

"...they are killing off the White man..... just a bit more slowly than..."


Some call it the slow war...the crime stats are deliberately muddied not to reflect the actual extent of the criminal neglect of the ANC government. The white population has actually decline since 1994...a slow genocide...not as horrific as short term mass murder, but just as effective over time...another 3 decades and we'll be less than 3% of the population with absolutely no say in anything significant.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
17 Nov 2025, 13:20
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17 Nov 2025, 13:20#5

And then they can rule over a dungpile.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
17 Nov 2025, 13:51
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17 Nov 2025, 13:51#6

I've recently become involved with a contract to upgrade and repair various COJ owned buildings. There are 2000, guess how many are functional? Less than half. Guess how many are compliant, less than 2%. Guess how many people at COJ even understand their responsibility in terms of maintaining and running these facilities...zero fucking %.


It's blatant and demonstrable ineptitude mixed with a strong does of moral corruption.


Truly is disgusting to see how people have this built in tendency to destroy everything and care for nothing.


I've been to a good few meetings in the last couple of weeks, and have gone to look at certain sites, and I'm not exaggerating when I say it actually makes me feel physically ill to see what is happening.



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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
17 Nov 2025, 14:11
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17 Nov 2025, 14:11#7

Plum, I was shocked to see the state of most of Pretoria...and how it's gone backward over the last 15 to 20 years...and it's coming to Cape Town soon...just a matter of time...it's already in some areas and spreading like cancer...something needs to be done soon...

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
17 Nov 2025, 14:30
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17 Nov 2025, 14:30#8

and it's coming to Cape Town soon

It most certainly is...... it's like a cancer slowly moving across the country from East to West...... and it literally eats up and spits out everything in it's path... and nothing at all is safe or off limits.

That's why it makes me sick to see people like Denny, trying very hard to condemn the ANC from 12 000 kms away, whilst he is enjoying the White man's cultured society with the rest of his family, and offering him and his family the safety and protection of Western values and attributes, whilst secretly harbouring a deep seated hatred that made him want to repeatedly kill the White man in the most horrible ways imaginable.... and in his own exact words...."over and over again".

Yeah..... the usual shit....... White man very bad.... he is the worst thing ever......... unless I can get something from him for free.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
17 Nov 2025, 15:19
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17 Nov 2025, 15:19#9

That's why it makes me sick to see people like Denny, trying very hard to condemn the ANC from 12 000 kms away, whilst he is enjoying the White man's cultured society with the rest of his family, and offering him and his family the safety and protection of Western values and attributes,


Still banging away Huh? Well now, I didn't create Apartheid, I suffered it while you lot greased yourselves on its benefits. You were born into privilege by way of your white skin. And in that time and process you lot dehumanized the black man. The black man had no hope and humanity, you lot stripped him of it and while he was suffering you shat on him.

So today after nigh on 50 years of being dehumanized you have the audacity and the arrogance to have expectations of a people who you lot impoverished and dehumanized.....for 47 long years.....and all along enriching yourselves while living the life....while the black lived the lowest of low lives.


Poor little DA as always still clamoring to make his presence felt on an inconsequential message board.

But ummm just thinking, didn't you just recently say that your investments were doing very well?... and that's under a black government nogal....interesting! It's high time you gave back some of your white skinned gains.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
17 Nov 2025, 16:01
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17 Nov 2025, 16:01#10

This is nothing new. When President Xi met wh Biden in San Francisco or sidewalks residents was removed and it took 3 days and ten ton trucks to remove human shit from the streets alon g Xi wa goig t travel t the meeting venue,


Three days later the sidewalk residents were back and the human shot start heaping up again. Newsom of the water disconnected from the fire hydrants in Los Angeles fame was responsible for that BS farce as well.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
17 Nov 2025, 16:04
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17 Nov 2025, 16:04#11

Tx Mike for a healthy reminder.

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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
17 Nov 2025, 17:12
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17 Nov 2025, 17:12#12

I suffered it while you lot greased yourselves on its benefits

Ahhh ....there it is

You were born into privilege by way of your white skin

That didn't take long at all to come out....... fuck me that was quick

And in that time and process you lot dehumanized the black man

Yep, even all those White people that were toddlers then.... I get it, I really do ... all guilty

The black man had no hope and humanity, you lot stripped him of it and while he was suffering you shat on him.

As I said.... your hatred of the White man still runs very.... very deep .... and you keep trying to play it off that it's gone by moving and living in Australia....-.... yeah......it didn't take long at all for it to come to the surface..... exposing your blatant lies and bullshit is quite fun.

So today after nigh on 50 years of being dehumanized you have the audacity and the arrogance to have expectations of a people who you lot impoverished and dehumanized.....for 47 long years.....and all along enriching yourselves while living the life....while the black lived the lowest of low lives.

Yes, we all did that .......every White man alive....

Poor little DA as always still clamoring to make his presence felt on an inconsequential message board.

LMAO, says the same little man that tried his very best to justify what he did to so many random people on the same inconsequential message board, constantly explaining in great detail why he ran away and abandoned his people in Africa to run to a Western country run by the same horrible oppressors.... the White man.

The same insecure little man who wanted to know my thoughts on what he did and how I felt about it...... LOL

interesting! It's high time you gave back some of your white skinned gains.

It doesn't ever take very long to bring out your hatred of all White people to the surface....... us "lot" are still helping you enjoy you current life ..... and it must grind the shit out of you that it's not a black government doing it, but a White one.


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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
18 Nov 2025, 12:24
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18 Nov 2025, 12:24#13

So today after nigh on 50 years of being dehumanized you have the audacity and the arrogance to have expectations of a people who you lot impoverished and dehumanized.....for 47 long years.....and all along enriching yourselves while living the life....while the black lived the lowest of low lives.

The very sad and completely ignorant part about this specific comment from you, is that as heinous and despicable and horrible as Apartheid was, which it was, and I have always maintained that stance and always will..... the incredibly sad part about it, is that most Blacks today are now coming out and saying that they would much rather prefer those Apartheid conditions now, because they believe that they lived a far better life, had better working conditions, usuable infrastructures, operational hospitals, functional government organisations like home affairs and the post office, stocked medical clinics, qualified nurses and doctors....... a reliable and productive police force, a brillliant abulance service, a working and functional defense force.......and all of this was under the White man.

That is a fact, and so many black people are not shy to admit it these days, because they are abolutely gatvol and pissed off with what the ANC has done to this country, which is exactly why we now have a coalition government in place.

So, to put it very bluntly you racist coward....your own people fucked over your own people, over and over again, year after year after year.......and all this was done whilst you were 12 000 kms away, enjoying a relaxing Western lifestyle that the White man provided for you and your family......

So maybe.... just maybe......you should start admitting that for a change and actually start acknowledging that the White man was not the one who completely fucked up this country, even if at some point he did despicable things in the past...... your own people are the ones who have raped, pillaged and continue to destroy this country for everyone living in it.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
18 Nov 2025, 13:24
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18 Nov 2025, 13:24#14

Please don't get personal. Denny is a nice guy I met twwice. He is not politically on the sam line as me and many people who left SA have he same opinion - they got hope of a better Govenment - but after 2007 the system collapsed and since then the rush downhill has been gathering pace to reach jet speed.


Don't think the Whites are the only detrimentally effected by ANC rule - the Coloreds and Indians are equally being destroyed and that is why they turned against the ANC even more strongly than the Whites are.



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Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
18 Nov 2025, 14:44
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18 Nov 2025, 14:44#15

Please don't get personal. Denny is a nice guy I met twwice

Oh, he sounds really nice and he is always so respectful towards you as well Mike.

but after 2007 the system collapsed and since then the rush downhill has been gathering pace to reach jet speed.

The "collapse" was long.... long before 2007 Mike.

Don't think the Whites are the only detrimentally effected by ANC rule - the Coloreds and Indians are equally being destroyed and that is why they turned against the ANC even more strongly than the Whites are

Think I made that quite clear Mike, with this statement here below

"your own people are the ones who have raped, pillaged and continue to destroy this country for everyone living in it."

South Africa has never, ever........ ever been in the state that it is now...... and that is all because of the ongoing black government...... and Denise can try and sugar coat it as much as he wants to, and blame the White man for all things that went wrong with this country back then, but there is one undeniable and proven fact.... and that is that this black government has continually treated their majority black population far..... far worse than any White government ever did in the history of this country.

If I could lock up every single White person directly involved in the atrocities of Apartheid, I would, because that is how much I despise a system like that, which is also why I have constantly referenced hating bullies on this forum over the years, because that's exactly how I see what happend back then with Apartheid..... bullying a population into doing things which went against basic human rights..... I absolutely abhor any White person who stood for and participated in Apartheid which negatively affected any race in this country, and I would easily say that to their face as well.

But I also despise people like Denise who want to hold the entire White race responsible for what happened in South Africa during Apartheid, when in fact so many White people also stood up against Apartheid, my parents being some of them, but then he runs away to a well run Western civilisation and enjoys a culture that is run by the very same White people that he so wanted to kill over and over again in the most disgusting ways......

The White man is always good enough for Denise when it suits his personal needs and his families requirements, but other than that, his hatred for the White race is always just just under the surface, and that is exactly what this thread has exposed yet again, despite Denise trying to convince everyone on this forum multiple times in the past that he is over that.

I have done more for this country for all races than Denise has, but he wants to take the higher ground from 12 000 kms away and play the victim...... what a joke.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
19 Nov 2025, 01:40
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19 Nov 2025, 01:40#16

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
19 Nov 2025, 07:46
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19 Nov 2025, 07:46#17

"Approximately 12.5 million Africans were sold to Europeans and transported across the Atlantic between the early 1500s and the late 1800s, with around 10.7 million surviving the Middle Passage to reach the Americas. Today, while legal slavery has been abolished, the International Labour Organization estimates that roughly 10 million people in Africa live in conditions of modern slavery—including forced labor, debt bondage, and forced marriage—out of about 50 million worldwide."


Those that rounded up and sold slaves into and out of Africa, they're still at it today. They still sell em and they still have em.


Since the Brits forcibly abolished slaved trading 200 years ago...how many Africans continued to be slaves in Africa, for Africans, up the present day?


"So today after nigh on 50 years of being dehumanized you have the audacity and the arrogance to have expectations of a people who you lot impoverished and dehumanized.....for 47 long years.....and all along enriching yourselves while living the life....while the black lived the lowest of low lives."


Now let's hear about the current dehumanisation of Africans by Africans and what everybody's plans are to end it.


...and let's remember that slavery is far worse than Apartheid ever was while we have this discussion.


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