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Doctor Prescribing Hydroxychloroquine Says All of His "Very, Very Ill" Patients with Coronavirus Became Symptom Free within 8-12 Hours (VIDEO)

Started by Beeno144 REPLIES937 VIEWS· 07 Apr 2020, 22:46
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
07 Apr 2020, 22:46
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07 Apr 2020, 22:46#1



A Los Angeles doctor prescribing hydroxychloroquine in conjunction with zinc is seeing a 100% success rate with every patient he has treated suffering from the Coronavirus.

Every patient I’ve prescribed [hydroxychloroquine] to has been very, very ill and within 8 to 12 hours, they were basically symptom-free,” said Dr. Anthony Cardillo, the CEO of Mend Urgent Care.

“So clinically I am seeing a resolution” for people suffering from the Coronavirus.

See video at this link:

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BrycyPro4,671 posts
07 Apr 2020, 23:53
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07 Apr 2020, 23:53#2

..Bean Brain maybe the doctors are reluctant to use this unproven drug Donny Bodybags is pushing because there are dangerous side effects like heart arrhythmia leading to death.....and if the patient dies there could be a malpractice suit and doctors could be charged with manslaughter/ lose their license..see Michael Jackson's doctor for results..

Also there was a doctor on FOX NEWS yesterday advising against using it...maybe because Rupert Murdoch has been threatened with lawsuits that they've endangered public health

https://twitter.com/i/status/1247233437519536129

Then theres countries in Europe like Sweden that have stopped treatment trial with Chloroquine after some patients got severe side effects such as seizure and vision impairment..


The secret though to avoiding catching the virus is to cover yrself in Jesus' blood

https://twitter.com/i/status/1246794240904044544



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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Apr 2020, 01:26
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08 Apr 2020, 01:26#3

No, the Lupus doctor in California  that has used this drug more than almost any other says in  the many years of prescribing it to many patients he has never had a serious incident. 

Sorry to disappoint you, but you are so ignorant down there in the Shire I thought I should help.

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BrycyPro4,671 posts
08 Apr 2020, 01:44
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08 Apr 2020, 01:44#4

...Maybe cos he's using it for cases of Lupus for which is what it is intended for...

Apart from heart failure, Hydroxychlorine treatment can also cause anaemia, leucopenia, thrombocytopenia, agranulocytosis, porphyria exacerbation, neuromyopathy and other big scrabble words...

All of which can have fatal outcomes...

https://medsafe.govt.nz/profs/PUArticles/Sep2015/Hydroxychloroquine.htm

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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
08 Apr 2020, 02:09
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08 Apr 2020, 02:09#5
There are rumours that Trump is a shareholder of the French company that manufactures Hydroxychloroquine. It is the actual brand name of the drug itself. Its profit could sky rocket. 
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/04/07/trump-has-small-distant-link-to-sanofi-french-drugmaker-of-hydroxychloroquine/#3a07f8dc7260

Surprising fact: The French organization that published a positive study on hydroxychloroquine cited by Trump’s allies walked back the findings Friday, saying it does not meet their “expected standard.”
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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
08 Apr 2020, 02:48
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08 Apr 2020, 02:48#6


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Apr 2020, 03:25
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08 Apr 2020, 03:25#7

Man you Hobbits down in the Shire are thick....when the drug is put into the body, it doesn’t know what it’s intended for...it’s safe or not safe. This drug  has a 65 year safety record.

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BrycyPro4,671 posts
08 Apr 2020, 04:23
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08 Apr 2020, 04:23#8

....sounds like a pretty cavalier attitude not to mention dangerous and irresponsible especially coming from someone who claims to have worked on a hospital board to be pushing an unproven drug.. 


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
08 Apr 2020, 06:23
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08 Apr 2020, 06:23#10

No need.....Dr Oz went right to the National Insurance data for a sample of a million patients and found 14000 Lupus patients who were regularly getting Chloroquine. . Of those 14000 patients, exactly zero had the virus. He plans to extend the process to 100 million records. That would be....er...statistically significant. But finding no virus patients in a sample of 14000 is way better than current stats would project.


Very clever stuff, rather than laboring through a randomized trial with it’s denial of best treatment to half of the patients at risk for their lives....mine the data that already exists. I guess your experts didn’t think of that Bricey.



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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
08 Apr 2020, 07:59
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08 Apr 2020, 07:59#12

."Another link for the "Dr" Trump dummy drug pushers"


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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
08 Apr 2020, 11:24
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08 Apr 2020, 11:24#13

Jeez folks, let's use something common like paracetemol as an example yet again. It has a long list of potentially serious side effects ("common" side effects, up to 10% occurence include pulmenory edema, anaphylaxis, anemia, dyspnea).

There is not a single drug on the market that don't have side effects, and a great many of them have potentially life threatening side effects. A lot of the drugs that you will take sometime this year without thinking twice will have a deadly possible side effect somewhere in there.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
08 Apr 2020, 11:51
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08 Apr 2020, 11:51#14

Funny you say that, why are doctors the world over not writing scripts for their patients? Are they ignorant of the drugs existence or have they all suddenly gone stupid?

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
08 Apr 2020, 12:18
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08 Apr 2020, 12:18#15

No idea. I'm only an internet doctor, so I know that I actually know nothing. Much of what I say is thinking out loud and hoping someone comes up with some perspective to help me make sense of this stuff. It does strike me though that there are agendas here, so who knows what to believe from either side. Why do some doctors take action and administer this drug, while others refuse to bite? Is it a case of actual knowledge or simply erring on the side of caution? I don't know.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
08 Apr 2020, 12:42
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08 Apr 2020, 12:42#16

For a start, forget the politics, this is between you and me.  I'll state the obvious.....Doctors are in the business of saving lives, they are also not ignorant of the drug's existence and they're certainly not stupid.

Do you actually know the amount of doctors prescribing the drug for the corona virus? I don't expect you to know and neither do I but it's not in the numbers expected with the amount of patients dying of the disease.

As a matter of fact if they did write up scripts faster than a rocket launch then the world would have an instant cure....dontcha tink? 

Pakie, best you dismiss Trump and his embarrassing incoherent ramblings. These are highly qualified people who have refused to give the drug their seal of approval for very good reason.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
08 Apr 2020, 12:54
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08 Apr 2020, 12:54#17

"You’d think they’d know wouldn’t you?"

Well....if they're not in the business of saving lives then they're a bunch of pretenders who should be sued for culpable homicide. 

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
08 Apr 2020, 12:58
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08 Apr 2020, 12:58#18

They don't know that it won't work. Testing on SARS-Cov-2 has only really started in the last week or two. So anybody not prescribing this isn't doing so because they "know" it won't work. They can't know that. Some tests have been very positive, others not. Until we get larger numbers, the doctors know as little as we do about the potential for HCQ (my abbreviation) in treating SARS-Cov-2.

What intruiges me in the straight shooting down of choloroquine is this finding, from 2005 already regarding the treatment of SARS-Cov. That study unequivocally calls choloroquine "a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread". To me that would logically bounce chloroquine right up the ladder for drugs that should be tried first.

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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
08 Apr 2020, 13:15
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08 Apr 2020, 13:15#19

The article doesn't mention whether the drug has been tested on human beings. Mate, I'm not a doctor, testing I believe under goes a complex process before it's defined as safe in the respected opinion of the highest medical authority. For example, a person with an underlying condition, someone with an allergic reaction......that's a possible answer as to why doctors in their millions are not game enough to seal the deal.

Over and out.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
08 Apr 2020, 13:43
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08 Apr 2020, 13:43#20

Hahahahahhaha well done Dr Moz you nailed these clowns!

Epidemiologists and doctors around the world have testified as the the wonderful efficacy of these drugs. Their testimonies can be found in many of my posts including an international polling of 6,000 doctors which found the HCQ was their most favoured treatment.

One testimony was from a NY doctor who had used it on 699 infected people with 100% success. Another was a NY hospital who had tried the drug on near 100 patints with 100% success..

Then you had the two trials in France by a top epidemiologist wth great success as well. Successful trials also in Australia and China.

When prescribed by a doctor its safe if the doctor does his job and ensures the few who might succumb to the drugs side effects dont take the drug. The stupidity of poor brycy is becomng legendary,

On a personal note my wife's sister lives in England and has been infected. She is adamant she will not try HCQ and it has not gone through full clinical trials - all the other evidence means nothing. She is a very fit and healthy so we pray it stays that way. she has been sick for about a week now. Was over in the States hiking with her husband and the lock down began. Battled to get back. The NHS prescribed treatment is Paracetomal and later on Oxygen. No wonder Trump sent help to Boris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tell you what, not one person on this board will say no to the HCQ cocktail whatever they pretend now should they get sick. Stop all this silly posturing you frauds. Hahahahahahahaha


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
08 Apr 2020, 13:56
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08 Apr 2020, 13:56#21

Doctors in their millions dense denise. Hahahahahahaha the international poll found it the most popular treatment you clown.

The side effects are well established - its been used for some 75 years!!!!! Doctors treating malaria don't prescribe it for people who may be badly effected by its side effects. if doctors were not able to identify those who could be badly effected by its side effects the drug would have been taken off the market decades ago.

That dense is why Trump says let the doctor and patient decide rather than some demonrat politcian obsessed with taking T rump down at ANY COST!!! Making sense to you dense?

The basic trouble with loons like ou dense is he has no common sense! So un Australian who are well kn own for their smarts. Ship the bumpkin off to nz where according to Cloudy they are 20 years behind and of course are bumpkins as Cloudy admits.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Apr 2020, 00:23
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09 Apr 2020, 00:23#22

The devide is becoming wider and wider as time passes. Logic has little to do with it. It is as if some external forces are at play here, driving humanity into two opposing camps.  

What's plain and simple logic to me is hogwash to the next bloke and vice versa. The world is heading for an inevitable slowdown  it seems. All the progress with regards to tolerance of different points of view made in the 20th century went out the window in the last two decades...no apparent reason for it...just happened, everything is going up in flames.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Apr 2020, 01:06
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09 Apr 2020, 01:06#23

India, which sources nearly half of the U.S. supply of hydroxychloroquine, has banned the drug’s export “without any exceptions” effective immediately, India’s Directorate General of Foreign Trade said in an April 4 order on its website.


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The Indians are obviously not as smart as Australians and Hobbits from the Shire.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
09 Apr 2020, 08:16
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09 Apr 2020, 08:16#24

Clouds, I admire your island lifestyle, but don't envy it. I'm still happy where I am, but I'm very concerned we're in an unsustainable position at present and I don't see it changing soon...pity...

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
09 Apr 2020, 19:49
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09 Apr 2020, 19:49#25

Cloudy the  stats say you are about as safe as Ghana, the DRC and Guatemala and that’s pretty safe! I visited the Shire once Cloudy.....It’s very nice but I missed the vibe in  Mordor.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
09 Apr 2020, 21:41
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09 Apr 2020, 21:41#27

Well oaks we are another two weeks extra lock down.

Better not be much longer as people will starve.



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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 Apr 2020, 03:28
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10 Apr 2020, 03:28#28

I find the controversy amazing,   When there is no drugs specifically available to treat a  new disease and doctors try and save lives - the media went ballistic.   They would rather see hundreds of thousands of deaths if it fits their political agenda.

If there were other drugs  available to treat the coronavirus it would be criminal to use HCG - but there is none,  Logical people say leave it to the doctors to decide what they would do o desperate circumstances.   But that is not good for the media - they do not mind the death of people so they can use it as part of their political campaign.

Sorry - I think it is sick to do what is going on in elements of the  media at present - not only sick,  but a total disgrace.   How dare they criticize medical practitioners who in desperation try methods to save lives purely for political reasons.   It really seems the more deaths - the more they enjoy it from their sick political advancement perspective.              

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 Apr 2020, 09:15
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10 Apr 2020, 09:15#29

It's the lefty way Mike, as is evident from the positions of some of the forum members. Somehow being pro chloroquin has become a right-winger thing and must at all cost be resisted by the snowflakes. You can't make this sh!t up!

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
10 Apr 2020, 10:46
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10 Apr 2020, 10:46#30

Oaks these leftist loons hate the fact HCQ is working!

It means Trump is right and yet again they are wrong. 

It means the panic will subside. 

It supports the case for the economy being restarted and millions not being ruined. 

Worst of all it ensures Trump's re election. 

So why worry about thousands dying!  Let's smear and lie about HCQ  like we do about so much else.

Not working oaks and we are only seeing the beginning of the backlash as the truth emerges about the virus death rate, the part played by China, WHO, Gates, Fauci etc.

Dark days ahead for anti American demonrats. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
22 Apr 2020, 04:55
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22 Apr 2020, 04:55#31
Reports are saying that tests in the US show that people who took Hydroxychloroquine fair worse than those that do not.
Hydroxychloroquine can have adverse effects on people with heart conditions and diabetes. (These are often the groups of people at most risk from Coronavirus). Additionally it can cause heart breathing palpitations - which can be fatal for people with Coronavirus that attacks the respiratory system. 
In a test conducted, the control(without) did better than the test(with). 
https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/21/game-changer-coronavirus-treatment-repeatedly-pushed-donald-trump-fails-first-big-test-12590536/
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 Apr 2020, 17:52
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22 Apr 2020, 17:52#33

Sharkvirus you ignorant prick the drug is 75 years old and has been used to treat hundreds of millions of people for malaria and Lupus etc. The side effects are know so when taken under Doctors supervision as Trump suggested is perfectly safe.

But Hydoxychloroquine doesn't work unless taken with Azithromycin and Zinc Sulphate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You dumbass this has all been explained but as per usual you didn't read posts dealing with the issue as you hated the idea that it would work for reasons we all know.

What a pathetic hapless nutter poor sharkvirus is!

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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
22 Apr 2020, 18:23
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22 Apr 2020, 18:23#34
Sometimes their is more than one treatment for a sickness, such as Malaria. That gives doctors more flexibility to prescribe the option that is most suited to a patient. For example, if someone suffers from a certain condition, one of the treatment options may have side effects to this specific patient that are worse than the benefits of the treatment. 

In the case of Trumps miracle cure, a side effect is slowing down the beating of the heart. This is a total disaster for someone with a respiratory/breathing disease . Your heart is used to pump blood around your body which carries the oxygen. The whole purpose of a ventilator is to help this process, where as taking Trumps drug achieves the opposite. 
That is why always consult your doctor, don't listen to a reality TV star giving medical advice...
. Beeno1

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Apr 22, 2020, 17:52


But Hydoxychloroquine doesn't work unless taken with Azithromycin and Zinc Sulphate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Maybe you and Trump should have been at the hospital making the prescription. It was a nationwide trial in America - I am sure the doctors have an idea what they are doing.




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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
22 Apr 2020, 21:50
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22 Apr 2020, 21:50#35

So far it is looking like Muthi. A bit like using a plaster for a head ache. 

No benefit, but plenty of risks to people experiencing Corona like health conditions. 

Various countries have tried it...

https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2

Earlier this month, scientists in Brazil stopped part of a study testing chloroquine, an older drug similar to hydroxychloroquine, after heart rhythm problems developed in one-quarter of people given the higher of two doses being tested.

On Tuesday, NIH issued new treatment guidelines from a panel of experts, saying there was not enough evidence to recommend for or against chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19. But it also advised against using hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin because of the potential side effects.

Many doctors have been leery of the drug.

At the University of Wisconsin, Madison, “I think we’re all rather underwhelmed” at what’s been seen among the few patients there who’ve tried it, said Dr. Nasia Safdar, medical director of infection control and prevention.

Patients asked about it soon after Trump started promoting its use, “but now I think that people have realized we don’t know if it works or not” and needs more study, said Safdar, who had no role in the VA analysis.

The NIH and others have more rigorous tests underway.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Apr 2020, 22:27
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22 Apr 2020, 22:27#36

‘The authors noted that hydroxychloroquine, with or without azithromycin, was more likely to be prescribed to patients with more severe disease, so increased mortality was to be expected.’  

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sharkbokCaptain23,209 posts
22 Apr 2020, 22:44
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22 Apr 2020, 22:44#37
The test in the USA hospitals across the country were an even split test- at least based on understanding of health conditions. 
The study, which was posted online this week, was conducted by researchers who examined the medical records of all 368 patients who tested positive for Covid-19 and were either killed or discharged by April 11. 
According to the findings, 28% of patients who received hydroxychloroquine plus standard care died, compared to 11% of the patients who died after getting only routine care.
***The researchers also found that hydroxychloroquine made no difference in whether a breathing tube was needed as well.--- However this did not influence if people received A or B experiment. 
28% vs 11% is pretty significant, almost tipple. 
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Apr 2020, 23:28
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22 Apr 2020, 23:28#40

‘Researchers .....who examined the medical records of patients who were either killed or discharged’........ ...........wasaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha! 

That’s actually funnier than your  ‘Christians who celebrate good Friday’ comment Shark.

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