'Elon Musk is wrong': Bernie Sanders gives blunt takedown of Trump ally

My argument was "Meet the test for racism as considered by any court on earth."

Your argument was "My feelings about racism are more accurate than a legal test."

My argument was a person can be racist without facing legal charges. A point which you conceded, which fatally holes your argument below the waterline.

Are you going to apply this standard of demanding something holds up in court for every topic under discussion. Can't wait for you to produce legal evidence of the deep state, or Biden wasn't really the acting President, that  Covid leaked from a lab etc etc. 

So, applying your same standard, I guess all these Dem politicians are fascists...

Hillary Clinton: “You could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. They’re racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic—you name it.” ? 

I do think a substantial section of Trump's supporters are that way. But not half.

Joe Biden: “The only garbage I see floating out there is his supporters.” ?

Awful comment for Biden to make. But was made in the context of Trump Porto Rico island of garbage comments.  Come back to me when Biden is on record denigrating peoples of a different ethnicity than his with the same frequency that Trump does and then we will talk.

Nancy Pelosi: “They’re trying to make America white again.”

Pelosi wasn't othering anyone here, she wasn't referring to Trump's supporters, she was talking about Trumps immigration plans.

Bernie Sanders: “Some of these folks are, they’re racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic.”

Beto O’Rourke: “Those who support Trump are complicit in racism.”

Cory Booker: “There are definitely Trump supporters who are hateful and bigoted.”

Pete Buttigieg: “There are a lot of committed racists whose vote he [Trump] is going to get.”

All these are pretty accurate comments.

Got love how you construe calling out racism and fascist's as fascism. By that logic Churchill and Roosevelt were fascists.

Anger please try to be just a little honest. Nobody thinks of Oswald Mosley when you call Hitler a fascist. They think of Adolph Hitler. Proof….all the cartoons posted on here and elsewhere of Trump in a  Nazi uniform.

Nice try but the kind of fascism passing through most peoples’ minds is far more linked to the image I posted. And even though I’m not a fan of the nationalistic rallies, to imply Trump is capable of what Hitler did, is disgraceful.

Stav

I hav e a few questions for you and hope for an honest answer:

1    Is the finding that the FBI illegallly and Unonctitutionally spied on US citizens - as found by the FIS Court not indication of dictstorisl conducct under the Biden Administration?   The figures varied  but the Court had written confirmation that it happened to 278 000 people - but there are indications and reports that indicate it happned to 1 300 000 people 

2    Is usage of the FBI and CIA to force media not to publish news critical of the Biden Rgime not what can be expeced from a dictatorial Gvernment - especially when they use lies to stengthen their case?

3    Is keeping people in jail for 4 years without a trial not dictatorial conduct?

4    Is lawfaae in election year against Trump in line with the US Constitution - especially in the end all cases colapsed because the effort was controlled by the Presidency and the DP not undermining  Democracy and in line with strategies used by dictatorships?

5   Do you relize that the majproty of the US voters oppose the Open Border Policy of Biden - so are the majority of vters supportes of a dictatorship?

*     D o you have any proof that Trump is a racist?  If you can find any proof - please provide?

*    Is there any indication and proof that Trump is going tp act against peple who resist his policies?    If you have any proof - please provide,  same.

*   Will retribution be used hen people are charged with bribwery and corruptionand looting of Government going to eb classified a :retribution?   

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Anger please try to be just a little honest. Nobody thinks of Oswald Mosley when you call Hitler a fascist.

I wasn't saying he was literally Oswald Mosley. The picture was meant to reference the fact their is more to Fascism/Nazi than just the mass murders. Public speaking using fascist rhetoric played over a long period a key roll in conditioning the population to support the more extreme elements of an ideology.

Nice try but the kind of fascism passing through most peoples’ minds is far more linked to the image I posted. And even though I’m not a fan of the nationalistic rallies, to imply Trump is capable of what Hitler did, is disgraceful.

I've repeatedly said I don't think Trump will literally start gassing illegal immigrants. But he using the same type of lingo when talking about illegal immigrants that the fascists/Nazi's used to denigrate Jews and its a dangerous path to go down.

I used your own reasoning. You said that dehumanising people and creating at atmosphere of "others" equates to fascism. Is that not exactly what the Dems have been doing? Does what category you putting the "others" into actually matter? The others are rapists...the others are thieves...the others are fascists...the others are anything that makes you think of them others and makes you feel like inhumane actions towards them are justified. What am I missing?

What are you missing. How about reality.

The pre-programmed gas lighting that comes from the right is astounding. Just accuse the other side of the exact thing your side actually doing when they call you out on it.

You're getting all tangled up in your logic here.

Your whole logic is "I know you are but what am I" at this point.

Stav you re not really believing the following  do you?

The pre-programmed gas lighting that comes from the right is astounding. Just accuse the other side of the exact thing your side actually doing when they call you out on it.

What happened in reality and proven facts it is the normal practice of the Democratic Party that whenever they accuse the Republican Party of going to do somethings deemed dictatorial,  be assured that the Democrats is already doing it,

I asked you some questions above that you would not answer because you support diictatorial practices the  Biden Regime is guilty of.       

ouMaaik stop being a dick.

When the German chancellor, Olaf Scholz, was asked in an interview about the barrage of insults being directed at him and other German leaders by Elon Musk, the world’s richest man, his reply was: “Don’t feed the troll.”

Speaking to the German weekly Stern, Scholz described the criticisms as nothing new. “You have to stay cool,” he said in the interview. “As Social Democrats, we have long been used to the fact that there are rich media entrepreneurs who do not appreciate social democratic politics – and do not hide their opinions.”

He said he would make no efforts to engage with Musk, who has endorsed the far-right Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) in next month’s federal elections and will host a live discussion on his social media platform X with its candidate for chancellor, Alice Weidel. “I don’t believe in courting Mr Musk’s favour. I’m happy to leave that to others,” he said. “The rule is: don’t feed the troll.”

 You knwo wh at doos   Scholtz fucked u so badly in  Germany that si coaition frayed and he wa froced to resign as Chancelor by a vote of no confdence in the German Reichstag and a new election in February this year,    His Party that in 2021 was the biggest party in Germany and able t cobble together a coalitoon Government in Germany - is now accordig to opinion pols the fourth  biggst Party  in Germany.

It was not Musk who said he was shit - it is the Geman voters that live in dire circumstances  with the German econmy in recession  who said it and Musk was just repeating what the ignorant bastard did to Germany.    He is so bad that the premier of the German State Brandenburg would not allow  Scholtz to campaign for him in Brandenburg - which is Scholt's home state where ihis residence is - becsue he was poison in Brandenburg and th Premier would ahve lost the eelction.   The latter guy knew that the CSU wcould not win in Brandenburg S  ta te and moved to tehr ig ht within Schotz own Party by tuenin g agains t illegal migratin h imself and convinced the voters to vote for him to prevent an AfD victoy in Brandenburg,   In the other two States where Landstag elections were held cholt ;s Paarty got a total of 15 seats out of te total of 213 seats.    So  Scholt z is on his way out after his party split into the SJ wh had links to Russia amd what is elft in Germany is t he Greens who deteritrated into shit as well.

o what you write above cam from a ttall discredited BSter who is going to be jobless afte he upcoming Germn election.

Opnion pols indicated that the German Party sizes after the election would be the following in Germany:-

1    CDU/CSU alliance

2    AfD

3   WSJ

4    Scholtz   SDU       *

5    The Greens            *

6    The Federal Party   *

    *    The Parties forming part of the German Coalition Government - the Federal support dropped from 12% of the voters to 4,5% of the voters meaning tha the Federal Party will have nn  seats in the Reichstag,            

That is going to be a farce and Scholtz will be kicked out as Party leader of the  SDU sfter  he fucked up royally - the rypical example of the Biden in Germn politics - withut any proof of perssonal corruption associated with Biden.

So whateve Musk said about him is mild as to twhat the voters in Germany said of him.     The Party with the biggest drop in support will be the Greens  after their crazy policies caused majot inflation in Germany since their policies forced milions in Germany to turn to food banks to  prevent starvation in Germany.    So enjoy - the chief warmongers in respect of the Ukraine War and in fact WW3 is the Greens in Germany.    You shoud go into mourning because your support of Scholtz is  finished in Germany and Musk caused no problem by stating the obvious in what the Germn voters think of the shit that Governed te contry since 2021 and cused its economic destruction.    He is the Biden of Germany without being pesoall corrupt like Biden is.

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Well its obvious that you get orgasmic over the rise of another far-right Party .

Sies.