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Epstein. Another Clinton body bag or a genuine suicide?

Started by Ceradyne63 REPLIES2,040 VIEWS· 10 Aug 2019, 18:45
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
14 Aug 2019, 16:00
#41
14 Aug 2019, 16:00#41

Don't you worry about any tears from me Rooinek, I figured something out today...should have seen it ages ago.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
14 Aug 2019, 20:05
#42
14 Aug 2019, 20:05#42

If he had he would have earned  the extreme gratitude of the media and the D P already by providing same to them/  So far zilch at all.    

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
14 Aug 2019, 21:26
#43
14 Aug 2019, 21:26#43
I find it a bit odd that as soon as Epstein's supposed suicide was announced the Trumpanzees immediately went into conspiracy mode and started shrieking about Bill Clinton.
I'm aware that Clinton was a guest of Epstein's on a number of occasions but so was Bozo. There aren't nearly as many photos of Epstein and Clinton together as there are of Epstein and Bozo. I can't find any quote of Clinton's where he says Epstein was a terrific guy and so much fun to be with while acknowledging his taste for younger women. I'm not aware of any video of Epstein and Clinton together at a party perving over young cheerleaders.
It doesn't surprise me that there's a conspiracy theory about Epstein being assassinated . . . it just surprises me that everyone's suspecting Clinton and so few people think it could be Bozo who had Epstein silenced.
For those Trumpanzees who disagree and are offended by the very suggestion that Bozo could be culpable, instead of repeating the same tired old histrionics about Uranium One, Hillary's emails, Deep State, Antifa and Democrats being evil Satanists, why can't even one of you put up some actual evidence to show that the relationship between Epstein and Clinton was as close as the relationship between Epstein and Bozo?
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Aug 2019, 02:02
#44
15 Aug 2019, 02:02#44

There is NO evidence that Trump ever visited the Epstein  Peadophile Island resort at all and the only real connection was at Trumps golf estate in Florida where Epstein was booted out of the membership when he messed around with one of the girls working there.   Before that he flew on the  Epstein private jet once on a flight from Miami to New York.

The evidence as to the above has been provided to the FBI investigating the Epstein case.   

 The New York extreme wealthy circle is not really all that big and they all know each other,  Trump's and Clinton's daughter were qui te close before the election of 2016 - so knowing one another would not necessarily mean they are involved in the same activities, 

One do not mess around with Barr - not even Trump would.   So I will not be surprised if Clinton does end up facing peadophile charges in this case.  His wife is also very likely will be charged with involvement in the Russian Hoax scandal,     .                

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
15 Aug 2019, 02:27
#45
15 Aug 2019, 02:27#45







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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Aug 2019, 02:56
#46
15 Aug 2019, 02:56#46

Duplication

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Aug 2019, 02:56
#47
15 Aug 2019, 02:56#47

That photo of Epstein and Trump must have been taken some 25 years ago at least,  .   

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
15 Aug 2019, 09:28
#48
15 Aug 2019, 09:28#48

Epstein met many many people. Does that make all these people part of Epstein's pedophile ring.

Very telling is Trump's kicking out Epstein and canceling his membership at Mar a Lago. The globalist MSM don't mention that of course. 

By the way Mike I read somewhere that the flight from Miami to New York was with Epstein's son where Trump hitched a ride? 

What has been proven is that rooiBOZO is a complete clown and has no clue whatsoever as per usual. 

At least by being a laughing stock he gets the attention he craves! Hahahahahahaha


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CeradynePro9,374 posts
15 Aug 2019, 14:24
#49
15 Aug 2019, 14:24#49

For some reason the YouTube clip won't work.


Epstein video

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
15 Aug 2019, 20:07
#50
15 Aug 2019, 20:07#50
The moral of the story is that Epstein had pals that were from all political spectrums. Even the far right-wing Trump. That is the only conspiracy that is true here.
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
15 Aug 2019, 20:35
#51
15 Aug 2019, 20:35#51

"Far right wing Trump" lol...keep on drinking the koolaid Snark!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
15 Aug 2019, 22:32
#52
15 Aug 2019, 22:32#52

First autopsy indicates he was most likely murdered since he had a number of broken bones in his neck more likely caused by strangulation. 

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
15 Aug 2019, 23:05
#53
15 Aug 2019, 23:05#53
Or he hung himself, which is how most people commit suicide in jail.... If someone hung themselves it is almost certain they would have a broken bone or two.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Aug 2019, 05:19
#54
16 Aug 2019, 05:19#54

I do not think that there is any confirmation of suicide yet,  The problem is one of the broken bones is mo re associated with strangulation than with suicide by hanging,     

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 Aug 2019, 06:23
#55
16 Aug 2019, 06:23#55

He hung  himself with a bedsheet from his bunker bed...strangulation, but he should not break any bones that way.

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sharkbokCaptain23,217 posts
16 Aug 2019, 13:29
#56
16 Aug 2019, 13:29#56
Draad, Do you have past medical training and expertise?  
My assumption is that hanging would break bones in a person's neck. I then searched in Google - and it appears to suggest that when someone is hanged, they will either break their neck, or bones within your neck. These are based on the opinions of doctors with years of specialist experience. 
What I don't understand about the happy clappies, is they try to bend the data to support their own perspectives of conspiracies. Makes some interesting topic a the local church gathering where the pastor will take about world affairs. This is where the brainwashing process starts, and the minions follow. 
---The hyoid bone was broken. 1/3 of choking murders have a broken hyoid bone. Older people that try to hang themselves are more likely to break their hyoid bone.  -

Basics

Description

  • Strangulation:
    • Ligature: Material used to compress structures of neck
    • Manual: Physical force used to compress structures of neck
    • Postural: Airway obstruction from body weight (over an object) or position (typically in infants)
  • Hanging is a form of strangulation:
    • Complete (judicial type): Victim's entire body is suspended off the ground
    • Incomplete (nonjudicial): Some part of victim's body contacts the ground
    • Typical: The point of suspension is placed centrally over the occiput.
    • Atypical: The point of suspension is in any position other than over the central occiput.
    • Intentional: Suicide, homicide, autoerotic, “the choking game”
    • Accidental: Often children or clothing caught in machinery
    • Near-hanging: Survival following nonjudicial hanging

Etiology

  • Hanging (judicial):
    • Victim is dropped a distance at least equal to his or her height
    • Forceful distraction of head from torso results in a decapitation type of injury (fracture of cervical spine and transection of spinal cord)
  • Hanging (nonjudicial):
    • Typically occurs from a lower height
    • Injuries mimic nonjudicial strangulation
  • Strangulation:
    • External neck pressure causes cerebral hypoxia secondary to venous and arterial obstruction.
    • Pressure on neck structures may cause airway, soft tissue, and vascular injuries.
    • Cervical spine injuries are uncommon except with judicial-type hanging.
  • Death:
    • Secondary to mechanical closure of blood vessels or airway
    • Secondary to cardiac arrest from extreme bradycardia due to increased vagal tone from carotid sinus pressure
    • Secondary to direct neurologic injury to the spinal cord
    • Secondary to pulmonary complications in near-hanging victims
    • Secondary to cerebral hypoxia

Commonly Associated Conditions

  • Cervical spine injury
  • Hypoxic cerebral injury
  • Arterial or venous dissection/thrombosis
  • Hyoid bone fracture:
    • Typically seen in nonjudicial strangulation
  • Cricoid cartilage disruption (rare)
  • Thyroid cartilage disruption:
    • More common in nonjudicial strangulation deaths
  • Phrenic nerve injury
  • Airway edema
  • Aspiration pneumonitis (may be late)
  • Neurogenic pulmonary edema (may be late):
    • Due to massive central sympathetic discharge
  • Postobstructive pulmonary edema (may be rapid onset):
    • Due to negative intrapleural pressure resulting from inspiration against an external airway obstruction
  • Air embolism:
    • Consider when SC air and vascular injuries are present



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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
16 Aug 2019, 13:38
#57
16 Aug 2019, 13:38#57
Indeed . . . yet the brainwashed Happy Clappy Trumpanzees (usually the same thing) will accuse others of drinking the kool-aid!
LMAO!
Trumpanzees calling other people brainwashed is like Bozo calling someone else fat . . . oh, hang on . . . 
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
16 Aug 2019, 14:14
#58
16 Aug 2019, 14:14#58

No the findings were quoted as from he post mortem also done by medical experts.   It is rare that one specific bone is broken in the case of hanging and that is what bothers the medical experts.   This bone is named and is always broken when throttled,  

That is why I did not say it may be murder - not that it definitely was murder.

In the meantime Prince Andrew and the Duchess of York was together with the Queen at Balmoral and she left in a hurry when Prince Philip joined the family before he was expected to,   She flew to London and Prince Andrew left Balmoral the next day and met Fergie and left for Spain together with the Duchess,  She is reportedly looking after him in view of the fact that he panicked because of his connection with Epstein.

No Rooinek I did not state you were brainwashed - I definitely am not.  and I am not an all-out admirer of Trump.   I criticized him in the past and base it on fact - not the BS spread by the DP through the leftwing press - but on real issues -and not the lies of the Obama administration and the Clintons.   They are likely to be in huge trouble because of the Russian Hoax story they concocted and used - the biggest political scandal ever in the USA.   .                     

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
16 Aug 2019, 14:56
#59
16 Aug 2019, 14:56#59

Snark. There is a difference between being hung in the normal way of execution, and hanging yourself from a prison bunker-bed with a bedsheet...do I need to draw you a picture?

Go read that copy and paste job of yours...explains it perfectly. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
17 Aug 2019, 09:02
#60
17 Aug 2019, 09:02#60

"Guards on their morning rounds found Mr. Epstein at about 6:30 a.m. last Saturday, prison officials said. He appeared to have tied a bedsheet to the top of a set of bunk beds, then knelt toward the floor with enough force that he broke several bones in his neck, officials said."

More at link.


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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Aug 2019, 11:49
#61
17 Aug 2019, 11:49#61

Epstein lawyers don't believe the suicide BS and are investigating. 

Those kneck bones very never break in a suicide according to one expert. 

Epstein was murdered to cover up Demorat and other pedophiles. 

There are so many anomalies it's ri diculous! 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
17 Aug 2019, 11:51
#62
17 Aug 2019, 11:51#62

Meanwhile the Coup plot against Trump continues to be revealed. 

Hope the oaks are keeping up. One dumbass who will be totally oblivious is rooiBOZO. What a clueless bone head this twit is. 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
17 Aug 2019, 16:49
#63
17 Aug 2019, 16:49#63


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
18 Aug 2019, 16:28
#64
18 Aug 2019, 16:28#64

Regardless of the actual details behind his death, this should not have happened and there was some sort of conspiracy to facilitate it.

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