Excellent discussion on Darwin and Evolution seen through the eyes of modern science

Some oaks still cling to outdated nonsense. 

Take a look. 

Wheee it's that moron Behe, one of the biggest jokes going around.

Before I watch it beenshit is there any evolutionists involved  to discuss the facts of any claims made or is it just a bunch of creationists having a circle jerk?.

I seldom watch videos like this on either side of the argument. To get a balanced view you need supporters of both sides.

Also do they link sources to any peer reviewed scientific documentaries under the video to support their claims?

Is that the same Lennox chap who got pwned by Richard Dawkins?

Surpris ed he still shows his face.

Those gimps have no shame, they are just peddling a different form of bullshit than the scam preachers. It's just another way to milk the stupid.

At least it doesn't include the Hovinds or Ken scam, those pricks are even on a different level than twits like behe.

Mousetrap..... Nice. 

We grow up thinking evolution is there because the academics say so. Then we do a little research and find it's a hoax. 

The fossil record is in total mess. It's a fantasy. Besides a waste of time what benefit do these evolutionists bring to the table? 

Not really a fan of this term but creotards really does seem to fit the morons on here.

So apart from fantasy and an inability to look past your bible what do creationists bring apart from BS and stupidity?

Only thing your lot have brought to the table is delusions as you try to warp fact into some sick twisted half ass lunacy to try and convince yourself science somehow proves your book of nonsense.

Seriously if science supported y our claims them the majority of scientists would be god botherers not Atheist.

natural selection is correct but doesn't explain everything. 

"Not really a fan of this term but creotards really does seem to fit the morons on here."

These people are experts in their fields and Lenox has 3 doctorates in Mathematics...certainly not morons.

We grow up thinking evolution is there because the academics say so. Then we do a little research and find it's a hoax.

Evolution is taking place every day. Ask any breeder mixing characteristics of different breeds to create a more hardy one - that's nothing other than evolution, just purposefully accelerated and manipulated. Calling evolution a hoax is like calling breathing or gravity a hoax.

Creation is a natural process, not some magical weaving of a wand by a grey bearded guy in the sky BS, but there was a Mind giving an orderly shape to the chaos...and it's an ongoing process...perpetual change and adaption to the changing environment to keep things interesting.

Order out of Chaos by random chance my arse! 

Modern-day evolutionary biology is built on Darwinism, just like astrophysics is built up on Einsteins' theory of relativity. 

The young earth creationists, the "believers" like to bandy the word science, but their whole belief system runs contrary to science, 

Sharktwit you were on this board at the time I posted dozens of articles providing evidence debunking macro evolution. 

I also went into some detail regarding Prof Lennox's brilliant study on Genises where he explained the various Hebrew words translated as days. He proves by showing how these same words are used elsewhere in scripture that they are not literal days. The Bible gives no age if the earth. It's possible it is you yiunger than many thing though. I provided strong evidence that suggests it is. But if it's older so be it. 

It is very obvious to me you never bothered to look at all this material. It's very clear you can't bear to face the reality that there is a God and you will be held to account.

There can be no real discussion with dark closed minds like yours. 

Thanks for confirming what I suspected. You lot don't have the capacity to engage on the topic, bit too dumb, and close minded to look at evidence. Hence you learn nothing and today are completely ignorant.

I anticipate posting more material  regardless of whether half bakes like you, intellectual cowards like you, cant bear to face the facts. 

I can hear your knees knocking from Cape Town. Bwahahahahahahaha. 

"I can hear your knees knocking from Cape Town. "

That's not the sound of my knees knocking, it's the sound of your minder rattling the gate of your enclosure because it's time for your tea party.

I think it's become clear guys like sharktwit and Oinker are governed by fear. Obviously they fear their World View is being crushed by science. It terrifies them.

Then these are the same guys who sucumbed to fear and took the deadly jab.

They are the same people who will accept tyranny if safety is promised and bow the knee and become slaves. 

They are putty in the Globalists hands. They are terrified of global warming and have completely sucked up the man made climate change hoax and support the corresponding war on energy.

When Covid lockdowns came they were all for lockdowns that don't work, wearing masks that don't work, social distancing that didn't work. Terrified out of their wits by Globalist propaganda they caved in.

Then because of this same terror they were in no state of mind to see the red flags relating to the deadly jabs. Eg herd immunity, immunity after having got a disease, children less likely to die from Covid than Flu. Sweden didnt lock down and no worse off. Dozens of studies showing masks don't work. It being a well known medical factockdiwns won't stop an airborne virus etc etc etc. 

They were simply too panicked to see all the Globalist propaganda machines moving in lockstep saying they same things with the same catch prases at the same time. 

The vaxx are safe and effective and stop you passing on Covid. Not proven and accepted to being a complete lie. 

How many lies did these weak fearful dopes accept. An enormous number. 

I posted all this stuff so no excuses please. 

Now so embarrassed are they are they double down. Us pure bloods have some sympathy for the weak minded who were preyed upon but personally if you are still doubling down on stupid at this late stage it's all on your head..

So fear is the ingredient THE WEF Globalists will use to herd the sheepie into their World Government tyranny.. Right now it's the threat of an all out nuclear war which will not happen. I expect the fearful to be collapsing in a heap about this in he future. 

The climate change fear drum will continue to beat. Another Plandemic could arise, the planned financial collapse and the consequent fear will cause many to bow the knee. Ditto food shortage complimented by the war on energy and food production, fertilizers etc. 

These fear filled people will gladly own nothing and believe they will be happy. Eating bugs is no problem for chef Oinkie. Being culled due to being a useless eater  won't happen to me they hope. 

The Bible says one third of the world's population will perish during the Great T ribulation. If those days were not shortened all would perish. Terrifying times indeed. But brought about by weak minded people handing over their freedom and rights to Luciferian rulers. 

What do you think you mean by creation is a natural process. Explain how the 3 billion odd letters of the human genome arose. Explain how a strand of DNA CONTAINS ENOUGH INFORMATION TO FILL 300 VOLUMES OF THE ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITTANICA. 

Explain how the universe came into being and please do better than saying the Universe created created itself out of nothing as Prof Lennox said that is patent nonsense. 

Explain the massive complexity of the cell. 

Explain the Cambrian explosion. 

Stop ignoring this sues proving a creative God. No more cowardice please. 

If there was always nothing there would still be nothing now. Only an eternal being of Supreme intelligence could have created this Universe. 

GAME SET AND MATCH. 

"Beeno, what if God set-up the universe knowing that the parameters he put in place would lead to localised low entropy, the formation of planets, the first cells and then multicellular life."

Exactly...God created nature as we observe it today...the laws of physics etc...the way everything fits together perfectly points to creation...the odds of it all happening by random chance is simply too big...too complicated a theory...I like the Designer theory much more...simpler.

Uh-oh . . . this is not going to end well. ButtPlug and the Squeaky Toy trying to tell a bible literalist like Baboon-ou that he shouldn't take the bible literally.

Could be some good laughs on this thread!

Hey Baboon-ou, do you believe man landed on the moon? Do you believe there was a holocaust?

Evolution is a fact but it neither disproves a God or does it prove a God.

As Draad says it could be a gods way of doing things as much as a purely natural occurrence.

I can only think the likes of beenshit is anti Evolution is it means man wasn't made in a gods image to begin with ( maybe he used Evolution to get to what we look like today.)

I just don't understand the need to try an warp facts just so it someway ties in with a book written by man.

"However, if the giant-impact hypothesis for the origin of the Moon is correct, this primordial rotation rate would have been reset by the Theia impact 4.5 billion years ago. Regardless of the speed and tilt of Earth's rotation before the impact, it would have experienced a day some five hours long after the impact.[59] Tidal effects would then have slowed this rate to its modern value."

The day night cycle wasn't necessarily always the same as today.

Think your shit stirring again plumbum, if anyone is convinced they know the secrets of the universe its the God botherers.

Yet even they can't  agree on the most basic facts.

If all the religious were on the same page then they would have a much stronger case for the existence of a God, yet that's not what we see,  their views on a god and his world differ in so many ways.

As Hitch said, they cannot be all correct but they can all be wrong.

Any of you believers care to explain why none of you cannot agree on even which God they believe in and even those that believe in Christianity cannot agree on what is the correct understanding of what this gods word is and what he expects from us mere mortals?

You don't always have to be 100% right about everyting...the basics is good enough...how can you be 100% sure there is no God?...non belief is a form of belief. 

The only thing I'm 100% sure of is that all concepts of gods are the figments of the human imagination. If there is something like a creator or a controller, not a one of us has the foggiest clue what it is or how to describe it or how to think about it because we can only think in human terms. That's why all the gods conceived by humanity suffer from some form of human pettiness.

I am not certain there is no God, I have stated several times on here that a God may exist, though I could say I am pretty certain it is nothing like the formal religions state as none of them make any sense.

I lean towards no God that the universe is natural but no way do I  ascert that there is not a "god" responsible. 

If I am wrong I will find out soon enough but currently I am expecting oblivion awaits and if so I ain't going to know anything.

Do I wish for eternal life, not at all but I would like to know the truth purely to satisfy my curiosity.

Of all the religious on here I think Draad is closer to the actual truth.

"Do I wish for eternal life, not at all but I would like to know the truth purely to satisfy my curiosity"

I feel exactly the same...I'm not a believer because of an afterlife...I'm in it for justice and order and because everything I observe can't be a result from random chaotic chance...it would be like winning the lotto thousands of times in a row. 13 Billion years j ust sn't enough tome...

I classify myself as an Atheist  as I don't  believe that there is a God but I have not written off the possibility that some thing/race/being is responsible.

I do not in anyway believe I know the truth, infact far from it.

All I can do is look at what I can ascertain as the most likely with the information available. Currently  I lean towards a natural world as no God that man has put forward seems likely let alone probable.

Man cannot "put forward" God, we can but know some small truths from the bigger whole...you sound more like an Agnostic than an Atheist. 

No I am an Atheist  as I believe a god is very unlikely, (a god that man describes) but I have not written off the possibility of some superior being/race putting us here.

As unlikely as I think this is the case, I am still open to the idea we are not 100% natural.

I am just as not as arrogant as many on here to claim I  know the absolute truth

I am just as not as arrogant as many on here to claim I  know the absolute truth.

Well said and as a matter of fact no-one does....not here or anywhere on earth.