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Fox News settles with Dominion for $787 million . . .

Started by Rooinek49 REPLIES7,768 VIEWS· 19 Apr 2023, 07:44
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Apr 2023, 15:24
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21 Apr 2023, 15:24#41

Without specifying which claims, they really have admitted nothing. That statement was carefully crafted.

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
21 Apr 2023, 18:23
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21 Apr 2023, 18:23#42
Conversely, by admitting that they made "some" false statements about Dominion - but not exactly what - it is open-ended and could mean everything was false. 

Perhaps more for their viewers than future legal cases. Loyal viewers may see it as "some", but independents may see it as all.

Fox News has admitted that they made false statements. Their next case is almost a carbon copy of Dominion. 
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Apr 2023, 18:37
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21 Apr 2023, 18:37#43

"Fox News has admitted that they made false statements"

As opposed to CNN and the other networks doing even worse without even breaking a sweat.

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SebPro2,680 posts
21 Apr 2023, 19:29
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21 Apr 2023, 19:29#44

The trouble could be they are all liars in some way or other, group thought is often misleading, yes there are lots of good individual Americans that stand out but they are not in congress or it's biased political media, that have integrity and values but they seem to outnumbered by liars being attacked by bigger liars. The whole political system is in total chaos and divided and USA has never been more weaker and losing friends and it's influence...certainly the Global South has lost trust in USA and can see the falseness of their so-called democracy and don't want any thing that represent that mess. They want their own sovereignty and freedom to chose what form of government suits their cultures, norms and traditions and to trade with whoever they wish in their own currencies. That's their national identity. It's none of our business.

 USA is not called the factory of lies for nothing.

"What a tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive"

Too many "snake oil salesmen" who can sell ice to an Eskimo until the buyer realises what he has bought.

They live in a fantasy world of Walt Disneys and Hollywood, totally void of reality... their present govt is cloud cuckoo land with oddities like perverts, lesbians, poofters and those who don't know if they are Arthur or Martha...sick satanic creatures. They hate truth, uprightness, and ban, boycott, gag and even jail those that expose them. Some democracy!

Somehow I had a feeling that Biden was going to ruin the USA and said so at the time.

 

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
21 Apr 2023, 20:11
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21 Apr 2023, 20:11#45

There is part of the story 0 which Rooinek and his idiotic supporters do not understand.   First of all Fox his more than double the viewership of  CNN and MSNBC combined,  Their viewership numbers increase by more than 10% per year - while the viewership numbers of CNN and MSNBC keep dropping  by about 20% annually,   Fox can afford the amount they agreed with Dominion to pay.

That the fake media the idiots believe in totally have a total potential collapse due to claims laid against the media by -

*    Sandmann for libel  -  $250 million from each of the leftwing media.  those claims was settled by agreement  and the youngster and his lawyers are by now very wealthy people;

*    The $1,2 billion libel claims of Rittenhouse against the media and said his actions were racist - all three criminals were White and the DNC and Biden is directly involved in the lawsuits.

*    The billions of dollar claims stemming from the Russian Hoax lies the media spread - as well as claims agains t the liars providing info - which the site idiots fell for totally.                

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
21 Apr 2023, 20:56
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21 Apr 2023, 20:56#46

,,https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/21/fox-news-audience-lies-dominion-trial-donald-trump

Evidence revealed in the Dominion case exposed the channel as the hostage of its viewers’ fantasy: a Trump election victory


In Kansas City last week, an elderly white man who lives alone heard the doorbell ring. He didn’t need to open the glass front door to see that a young black boy was standing there. He reacted instantly, firing two shots through the glass, one of which struck 16-year-old Ralph Yarl in the head. Ralph had set out to pick up his younger siblings at a nearby house with a similar address: he’d made a mistake, for which he is now fighting for his life. Meanwhile, 84-year-old Andrew Lester has entered a plea of not guilty on a charge of first-degree assault. But listen to the words of Lester’s grandson.

He said they used to get on well, but in recent years his grandfather spent more and more time watching TV, specifically conservative cable channels: “He’s become staunchly rightwing, further down the rightwing rabbit hole as far as doing the election-denying conspiracy stuff and Covid conspiracies and disinformation, fully buying into the Fox News … kind of line.” The way he saw it, his grandfather had been immersed in “a 24-hour news cycle of fear and paranoia”.


The settlement brought disappointment in what we might call the reality-based community. Plenty were licking their lips at the prospect of seeing Fox News’s bosses and biggest stars – the likes of Rupert Murdoch, Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity – forced to admit, on the stand and on camera, not only that the Trump claim of a stolen election was a lie but that they had always known it was a lie, even if they pretended otherwise on air.

That much had already been established by the thousands of private emails, texts and WhatsApp messages released through the pre-trial discovery process, which showed Fox executives and talent contemptuous of the very claims the network was amplifying, day after day. The “software shit is absurd,” Carlson said in one note, later writing that the source of that particular claim, a regular guest on the network, was “lying”.

An under-oath grilling of the Fox elite, culminating in a confession of guilt, would have been emotionally satisfying, even cathartic, for an America that has seen jail sentences for those who stormed Capitol Hill on 6 January 2021 but no real consequences for those who led them there: the politicians and propagandists who pushed the big lie so effectively that 63% of Republican voters still believe, even now, that Biden did not legitimately win the 2020 election.


Instead, there will be no witness box humiliation, not even an apology. On the contrary, the network’s post-deal statement, declaring that “this settlement reflects Fox’s continued commitment to the highest journalistic standards”, committed the very abuse of the facts for which the company had just paid out three-quarters of a billion dollars.

Indeed, the brazenness of that statement suggests that, in the absence of a bruising, televised trial and a guilty verdict, it will be business as usual at Fox. Sure, they’ll probably be more careful with their WhatsApps from now on, and they’ll keep the target of any future falsehoods general (“liberals” or “the deep state”), rather than naming specific corporations, but otherwise they have little incentive to change their modus operandi. After all, Fox News is still America’s most watched cable news channel. The model still works. This week’s payout can be written off as simply the price of doing business.


It’s small comfort, but there’s no guarantee that even if the Dominion case had gone to trial, and Fox had lost, it would have changed the calculus much. For what has been revealed most starkly by this saga is the extent to which Fox News now lives in fear of the monster it has created. Running through those emails and texts is terror of an audience that demanded to be told what it wanted to hear – namely, that Democrats could only have beaten the mighty Trump by cheating. If Fox was not prepared to tell that soothing bedtime story, the Fox tribe was ready to turn to alternative rightwing networks – the likes of Newsmax and One America News – who would.

In an absorbing essay on the Dominion case in Prospect magazine, Matthew d’Ancona likens the Murdochs to the Sacklers of Purdue Pharma and Oxycontin, encouraging a section of the American public “to become addicted to the opioid of an unyielding conservatism that often strayed into conspiracy theories and outright lies”. We might fantasise about taking down the first and most powerful supplier, but it’s gone beyond that now. The problem that needs treating is the addiction.

  • Jonathan Freedland is a Guardian columnist

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
22 Apr 2023, 02:44
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22 Apr 2023, 02:44#47

All of that would have a lot more impact if the same standards are applied to MSNBC

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 Apr 2023, 07:47
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22 Apr 2023, 07:47#48

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\Believing what is in the Guardian is believing that eating shit is equal to eating ice-cream.    They specialize in leftwing propaganda and is not really a news outlet anymore.   They are anytime as bad as  CNN and MNSBC - other favorite sources of yours .

You must be an extreme leftwing pro-fascist idiot to believe the BS they come up with - but what can one expect from a person whose brainwashing has reached the stage where you qualify for the normal epithet of a "useful idiot"  by the Fascists controlling the USA Democratic Party     

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
24 Apr 2023, 11:23
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24 Apr 2023, 11:23#49

I see the Traditionalist talks just as much twaddle about politics as he does rugby.

Denial is the mark of the days. Nothing in store and the follishness to think that basic observations demand a stamp of approval.


Apparently likes to use lots of words to say almost nothing, in the most illogical way possible...quite a skill playing that role so consistently over so many years...

To report about nothing as globalists enjoy emptiness.

Once again: both candidates gathering so many votes is explained by voter suppression strategies prevented from being deployed by circumstances.

One could think that theirs tenets taken into account globalists would look to ensure that anyone can vote.

Not the case. On the contrary, they deploy strategies to ensure undesired voters lose interest in voting.

Once it is achieved, the drawback is that remaining voters are dogmatic voters. Which means their vote is not going to be swayed by a political offer. Therefore one effective way of achieving victory is to ensure dogmatic voters from the other side can not throw a vote.

If that is being illogical, then how enjoyable being illogical is.

Again, basic observations that demand no approval. Globalists would like it to be that way yet it is not.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
25 Apr 2023, 11:09
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25 Apr 2023, 11:09#50

It damages Democracy to undermine the results of elections- that was legitimate.

While it is correct to point out that the whole process damaged one pillar of the globalistic ideology, it is incorrect to tie it with democracy.

The globalistic political ideology also known as liberalism ( for the sake of clarity, this is meant in the political ideology meaning, not the delusional liberal vs conservative factionalism) is not compatible with democracy.

Democracy is social organization a population adopts when they want the base to control the top.

On the other hand, liberalism aims at removing as many restraints as possible on the upper part of a population while placing as many shackles on the lower part as possible.

The consent of the governed is somehow the liberal wet dream: they want the lower part to enjoy the suffering given to them by the upper part.

Sadism.

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