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Good for you Germany . . .

Started by Rooinek48 REPLIES483 VIEWS· 16 Mar 2026, 14:48
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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
16 Mar 2026, 14:48#1

Berlin has responded to calls from US President Donald Trump to assist with keeping shipping lanes uninterrupted in the Strait of Hormuz, with a government spokesperson saying, “This war has nothing to do with NATO. It is not NATO’s war.”

The comment, made by Chancellor Friedrich Merz’s spokesperson, came after Trump made a thinly veiled threat towards the NATO alliance, saying it could face a “very bad future.”

The German government also once again reiterated that it would not participate in any activity in the Strait of Hormuz.

“Participation has not been considered before this war and is not being considered now,” the government spokesperson added.


Exactly. This is not NATO's war. NATO were not consulted, just as Congress didn't approve it.


This war belongs to Bozo and Bibi. It's their war. No-one else's.


Britain offered to help with 2 aircraft carriers and like a pathetic little child, Bozo responded by saying that their ships weren't needed for a war that was already won.


Well, let the clown carry on winning his war by himself then, I say.


Hope other European countries have the same stance as Germany.

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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
16 Mar 2026, 16:41#2

Britian just announced they will not be joining the war.

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
16 Mar 2026, 16:44#3

Good call Starmer.


The chickens are coming home to roost.

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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
16 Mar 2026, 16:51#4

Trump could cause World War 3. Most of his actions seem to be driven by a desire to prevent China from becoming the country with the highest GDP.


Trump wanted to take Iran's oil in the same way he did with Venezuela, and block it from being sent to China.

Trump is trying to protect the petro-dollar to ensure all trade is in dollars. However, his actions are having the opposite effect. Instead, the US dollar is being sold off, and more and more countries are trading in the Chinese yuan.


If Europe enters the Epstein war, then China would be providing Iran with weapons against Europe.

This is Trump's war. He owns it.


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Stavanger1
Pro4,532 posts
16 Mar 2026, 17:23#5

If you break it, you fix it.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
16 Mar 2026, 17:35#6

"If you break it, you fix it."


If the USA maintained that position during the 1940s, you would have been typing that in German now.

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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
16 Mar 2026, 17:43#7

NATO is a defensive alliance only.

https://x.com/realtrumpstein/status/2033338945593860479


If any country/place should get credit for winning WW2, it is Russia/USSR - who were responsible for killing over 75% of the Nazi army. Hitler screwed up by trying to attack Russia during winter, and spreading his forces too thin.


America only entered the war later on - after Japan attacked Pearl Harbour

America declared war on Japan - then a few days later Hitler declared war on America.

Only then, did America join the Allies against Hitler.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
16 Mar 2026, 17:52#8

Are you saying they could have won without America?

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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
16 Mar 2026, 17:56#9

Of course I am saying that.


America did provide financial loans that were repaid with interest. However, their involvement in WW2 was later on. Hitler bunged the war with poor tactical errors.

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Stavanger1
Pro4,532 posts
16 Mar 2026, 18:10#10

If the USA maintained that position during the 1940s, you would have been typing that in German now.


Ah yes the US would of just ignored Germany declaring war on it and its submarines sinking its ships.


But asides from that point, no I wouldn't be, because Germany couldn't have defeated the UK, the Naval disparity was too great. And if they couldn't conquer Britain they where never going to get to Ireland on other side of it.


Your side needs to man up and admit the present situation around Iran is their mess to clean up. As I said you break it, you fix it.

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
16 Mar 2026, 18:19#11

"If the USA maintained that position during the 1940s, you would have been typing that in German now."


Here we go again with the same old irrelevant argument.


We all liked that America of 1940. I thought we'd made that clear. That was an America we all respected.


But this is Bozo's America and this is Bozo's war. We don't even recognise this America let alone respect it.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
16 Mar 2026, 19:32#12

It's not about like....Iran is a problem ...has been for a very long time...just like Russia in Ukraine...it needs a combined effort to solve...and there's a very good reason why Europe doesn't want to get involved...they are scared of Iran's retribution by terrorist attack...exactly why this nonsense has been tolerated for decades...until one day it's too late, and they do something too horrible to even think about.

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
16 Mar 2026, 20:02#13

"Iran is a problem ...has been for a very long time"


I can just as easily say . . . "the USA is a problem . . . has been ever since they elected a clown as president".


The difference is, I can back my statement up with countless examples . . . yours is just something that your Fox News channel or your dominee or your alt-right website tells you is true.

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clevermike
Coach57,555 posts
16 Mar 2026, 20:22#14

S o wh o ran to the USA when shippiong was atacked by th e Iranian terorist branches of Iran in Yemen (the Houthi's" and Somalio (Al Shaabab) attacked ships cvcarrying goods to and from EU Countries in he Gulf of Aden and the Red Sea less than a year ago pleasding ith Trum p [pptect that ships? And the USA had to use missiles and aircaftsd to stop the havoc.


The answer s simple - Germany has more Muslim Residents than te UK and fear terrorist attacks in Germayy itself - so now they act if Gerany - weak as shit in Governance with one of the weakest army since 1866 in Europe - is not involvrd in the atatcks on Iran because they fear rterrorism in the vast Musli, Community in Germany based on Merke;'s Opn Border Policy. There has been regguar terorist atatcks in Germany in evey year since 2022. The youth in Germany has abandpned the Governing Parties in the present coa;ition because the county is in recession for three years and the German Gopvernment is destroying German


I would not place a cent on what the German Ship of Fools comes up with.


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Stavanger1
Pro4,532 posts
16 Mar 2026, 20:27#15

It's not about like....Iran is a problem ...has been for a very long time...just like Russia in Ukraine...it needs a combined effort to solve.


Oh the US should gets Europe's help in Iran, after they tried to bypass Europe from the Ukraine-Russia negotiations? Karma is a bitch isn't it.


.exactly why this nonsense has been tolerated for decades...until one day it's too late, and they do something too horrible to even think about.


This is gas and also utterly pathetic. Your scrambling for excuses to justify this absolute and total (not to mention oh so predictable) clusterfuck the US has got itself with this. It doesn't matter what Trump does, he could be live streaming the execution of kitten's and you would try to find away of justify it. We have idiots on other threads making posts about hypothetical Iranian nuclear bombs blowing up New York...mental shit.


You made your hill, now go stand on it. Absolute fucking clowns.

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bobbok...
Captain10,129 posts
16 Mar 2026, 20:54#16

Searching for reason in the jungle of Trump’s tales may compel hopelessly sensible people to superimpose logic where there is none in order to satisfy the need for some semblance of soundness.


He is stuck in a quagmire. His goals are elusive. His bombing does not force a surrender. He has no exit strategy. Good morning, Vietnam


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/mar/14/trump-iran-vietnam

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
16 Mar 2026, 20:59#17

I'm not saying any country should now come and help the US effort...the prudent thing would have been for the US to get whoever else involved before the time...but something needs to be done...US is more than capable enough to do it themselves...but snubbing them now might come back to bite them later on down the line...like I said, give the dust time to settle... let's see how it looks in a few months.

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
16 Mar 2026, 22:09#18

". . . let's see how it looks in a few months."


Sure, I can wait . . . as long as you understand that each month this war goes by costs the US around $30bn per month.


No rush then . . .

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Stavanger1
Pro4,532 posts
16 Mar 2026, 23:07#19

the prudent thing would have been for the US to get whoever else involved before the time


He wouldn't have been able to get them to go along, because he wouldn't have been able to provide any credible reason for the war or provide them with an actual plan.


but something needs to be done


No something didn't need to be done...don't you get it yet Trump lies and lies and lies. There was no immanent threat, and making up some hypothetical Iranian doomsday plot isn't a justification, it's an excuse. If negations were still ongoing right now, you would have no issue with that, you wouldn't be sitting up at night thinking OMG the Iran situation needs to be resolved now, we have to strike now!



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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
16 Mar 2026, 23:51#20

But asides from that point, no I wouldn't be, because Germany couldn't have defeated the UK, the Naval disparity was too great. And if they couldn't conquer Britain they where never going to get to Ireland on other side of it.


So the Poms were protecting you shirkers.

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