So Here we have a great article showing how the Marxist Globalist are teaming up with Islam to destroy America and the West.
Something Beeno of course has been talking about for some time.
Beeno ahead 9f his times. Sharktwit not yet in the 21st century! Blobbrain still in the Stone age!
Seems to me there is a fair amount of hatred of the West on this site from the Russia bots.
Mozart
When a senior official of the Department of Homeland Security write pro-Hamas propaganda on the internet and Mayorkas refuse to fire her tells me a lot about the pr esent US President and his shit duplicity and trustworthinesss.
It has nothing to do with Russia. It has to do with the Biden Administration and his anti-democratic tactics. I at least admire the USA - but hates its treasonous present Government. They are attacking the basic principles comtained in the USA Contitution.
That makes the present Amerian Government an enemy of Democracy and not supporting it.
No mozart most folks I know love the western way of life but have serious resevations on some policies such as faith, political corruption, crime, "Ladies" with "knackers" invading female sporting events believing they are females, BLM and the destruction of our way of life to accommodate other cultures and beliefs.
All for what.......
Not hate on the part of western people but being overrun by people who do not assumalate to western standards and norms but through political pressure and shear numbers are enforcing their culture and norms upon us with the crooked lefties who clammer for their votes doing the dirty work on us all.
All leading to the decline in our way of life as well as our pride and culture in western norms etc.
Non muslims are not allowed to migrate to Arab countries but the West is being flooded out with Muslims moving to their countries WHY?
Can you imagin a Christian family setting up shop in MECCA, no it is not allowed because of their faith, but Muslims are spread far and wide and increasing in all western countries building Temples and enjoying the good things in Western Culture but at the same time undermining our culture and way of life in any way possible in their pursuite for world domination.
Time to make a stand, show some "BALLS" and send the "Camel Jockeys" back home or to meet their promised "Virgins".
Way overdue.
Funny how all these problems come from religious beliefs, Ever noticed it's always the Muslims or some other faith causing all the problems, you would think a god would step in and point out which one was correct and how he wanted us to live, world peace in an instant. Funny he doesn't it's as if he doesn't exist isn't it bwahahaha.
The worst haters of Western Civilization is the Ultra-rich meeting in Davos every year. They have an agenda that is basically fascist in aproach and there objectives are to destroy western civilization and democracy as a system of Government. They are quite brazen in that reg ard and the objectives aim at having total control of human beings from birth to death.
There objective is to reduce the world population by 90% and keep absolute control over the remaining people - they even said they believe that 90% of the remainder should be Chinese since they are used to dictatorial Government aad will remain obedient.
So how are the population reduction of 90% to be achieved. The first means should be through pandemics resulting from gan-of-function research to breed more dangerous viruses than existed on Earth thus far. The Covid pandemic was caused by gain-of-function research at the Wuhan laboratory funded by the US Government. The pandemic in which tens of thousands of people died was just a trial run. A second virus from Wuhan would cause major poblems and the funding of gain-of-function has moved to Ukraine, When questioned by Senator Rubio - Nuland - Deputy Secretary of State - said there are . bio-labs in Ukraine and stated that the research are hamless and then betrayed herself totally. She said that the US Government is afraid that the Russians may get hold of pathogens. In the end was hysteric that said that if harmful pathogens caused a pandemic in Europe and througout the world the Russians should be blamed. However, despite lies there are evidence that the most advanced level of gain-of-function research are taking place in a bio-lab funded and built by the US Government in Odessa completed in 2018. Odessa is still under Ukraine amy control but a number of other bio-labs were captured by the Russians. In each lab they found written instructions from Washington to the effect that all pathogens must be destroyed to prevent it from falling into Russian hands. In 2 labs not all pathogns were destroyed and the Russians sent it to Labs in Russia to analyze it and to their horror they found such danerous pathogens that would cause the death more than half of the Eropean Population could die in pandemics. So the US Governmnt is invovled in developing pathogens to ensure future pandemics.
The second method is starvation of people on a massive scale/ 90% of farm produce in countries worldwide require heavy duty vehicles machinery and the war against fossil fuels is clear and open - world large-scale food production must be destroyed. The attack is on multiple levels - one direct objective is destruction of cattle that provides food for many people. They wanted the cows destroyed virtually totally since they cause global warming as a result of farting - total BS used to indoctrinate idiots to support it. What Gates said people should not eat meat they should eat worms and insects. Part of the objective is also to eliminate the dairy industry as well.
The third method is warfare - the Ukraine War is just a trial run. It did not work out as predicted - that the war will prove that the Russian army is useless and Putin would fall from power. Nothing of the sort happened - but hundreds of thousands died in the war. Expect other wars to follow. Countries fear that the USA may try the some thing they did in Ukraine in their own countries. and about 60 countries has applied to BRICS for membership. That being the case they did that as a means to protect them from being developed into another Ukraine.
That is the reason for hatred of Russia - the Russians refuse to have the Woke Culture taking over in the USA,
Now back to the war on cows issue. It is common that people believe in "holy cows" in India. I discussed that issue at one stage with Tamil leaders in Durban and they s aid there are no Holy Cows in India, In the Sanskrit written thosuands of years ago long before the Europeans know how to read and write.the Sanskrit indicated that cows should be protected since they are providing food to people. They are in no way holy cows in India - what there is is ancient rules to PROTECT cows at all costs and in every way as valuable producers of food for humans and it still applies the Indians in modern times. So that attack on cows will not work in India - they will not work in Africa either for a different reason.
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See Plum’s kind software suggestion…your garblage(sic) continues to flow.
Great word that ‘garblage’ ….garbled garbage…describes Mike’s material perfectly.
Arsehole
It is not garbage - but fact - whether you like it or not. By the way the CIA was involved in getting rid of Imran Khan as President of Pakistan. They wanted a weaker leader in Pakistan. Unfortunately the result was another flop - it drove the people to try and get closer ties to China.
In the end it would be more difficult to initiate another War between India and Pakistan.
Sources? Sorry sourknes.
On What?
On What?
On What?
On anything would be a start.
The only thing I did not prove 100% was the removal of Imran Khan as Prime Minister of Pakistan. - he produced poof that the CIA was at work in Pakistan scheming to have him replaced. The main reason relates to the fleeing from Afghanistan in a chaotic manner of the US Army and his alleged suppot of the Taliban he had nothing to do with. The CIA wanted him out and replaced by a weak leader that will obey instructions from Washington. It has already backfired on the USA - especially after China took over the operation of the Bargram ex-US base in Afghanistan. and there is already indications of co-operation between Pakistan and China.
See what th Hu8ardian said abut th dismissal https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/31/imran-khan-address-pakistan-faces-no-confidence-vote
Read also the following on the issue:-
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/8/10/did-us-ask-for-imran-khans-removal-as-pakistan-pm-after-he-visited-russia
Whenever the present US Government denies anything they are involved in - it si 100 certain it is a lie. The U S wanted to b rid of Khan intially he was accused of involvement in the Taliban - the econd is about the visti he paid to Moscow. The US Government is petty enough to punish eople even if they are visiting Moscow and obviously is based on the allegations that he may be not not part of the USA sanctions progam,
By the way Mozart - I provided plenty infond proof of what happened - your "proof" consist of BS propaganda. .
That relationship will prevent another Proxy war - this time between Indiia and Pakistan. . .
Mike, look how well ChatGPt sorted out your post.
This is your post above but edited by ChatGPT.
The only aspect I haven't conclusively proven is the involvement of the CIA in the removal of Imran Khan as Prime Minister of Pakistan. Evidence suggests that the CIA was active in Pakistan, plotting to replace him. This primarily stems from the U.S. Army's chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan and Khan's supposed support for the Taliban, which he denies any involvement in. The CIA allegedly sought to install a more compliant leader who would follow directives from Washington. This move has seemingly backfired on the U.S., particularly after China began operating the former U.S. base at Bagram in Afghanistan, signaling growing cooperation between Pakistan and China.
For more insights, refer to The Guardian's coverage of Khan's dismissal: The Guardian article.
Also, consider reading this analysis: Al Jazeera article.
It appears that whenever the current U.S. Government denies involvement, it's almost certain they're not being truthful. The U.S.'s desire to distance itself from Khan initially focused on alleged Taliban ties, and later, his visit to Moscow. It seems the U.S. Government is willing to penalize those who do not align with its sanctions program against Russia.
Regarding your argument, Mozart, I have provided substantial and credible evidence of what transpired, unlike your claims which seem to rely on unfounded propaganda.
This evolving dynamic is likely to prevent another proxy war, this time potentially between India and Pakistan
Thank you plum. In the case the USA was involved in the coup in 2014 in Ukraine. They organized and funed he coup and decided on who should be in thr Interin Government and most of their appointees are still involved in leadership in the Ukraine Government. They pumped n billions into Ukraine and they threaen Ukraine with withholding aid funding if they do not do the biddng of the US Government.
They also sabotaged he Minsk ageement and the main reason was that it include a new Constitution for Ukraine. Since the Ukraine constitution of 1991 was discarded after the coup - it mans that a new Constitution would lead to return of Ukraine to constitutionality and the US could and would lose control over the Ukraine Government, When Zelenskyy campaigned as presidntial candidate in Ukraine - he promised he would end the civil war in Eastern Ukraine by peaceful negtiation means. That promise did not last beyond a visit paid to Kiev by Senator Menendez - the Chaiman of the Foreign Affairs Committee .in the Senate. . It has since emerged that Menendez took bribes from Egypt, A year after the raid took place of his home finding hundreds of thousand of Dollars in cash and gold bars absolute evidence he charges were sealed, Fearing leaks to the Republicans the sealed report was unsealed - charges were eventually unfrozen the details findings iro the aid.charges wee eventually laid against Menendez. The problem is that Biden set the example involving bribery and corruption in a string of counties - Menendez was just one of Biden followers that is now in trouble - he was just following the example set by Biden..
After the Russian Invasion took place in February 2022 the US Government granted aid fnds - not only to provide the war support costs - but went much further funding the whole budget of Ukraine inclusive of pension payments and farming operations in Ukraine. In the House and Senate it was called Budgetary Support funding. They literally did more in Ukraine than what they do in the USA States themselves. By funding in total the Ukraine Government - the Ukraine Government will do nothing not controlled from Washington. In fact the whole war is a proxy war and Ukraine is under total control of the USA Federal Government. The real situation is that Ukraine is nothing more than a 'colony" of the USA.
Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe and like Biden was compensation for services rendered to Burisma - one of the most corrupt companies in Ukraine. Hunter Biden served on the Board of the company and after the company offices and home of the main owner was searched, the company Board in panic met in Dubai. At the emeting in panic it was decided to phone Biden for his help. 3 days after the telephonic discussion-with the owner - Biden went to Ukraine and theatened to withhold $1 billion in aid if the Prosecutor investigating Burisma is not fired. Biden in a video in 2018 told himself how he did the dirty on the Prosecutor by forcing the Ukraine Government to fire him or they would not get the $1 billion. According to a reliable informant of the FBI Biden was paid $5 million and so was his son. Biden was more worried about the Prosecutor finding evidence against him and other US politicians in corruption involving in the operation of getting corrupt money from Ukraine companies.
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Great post Mike. Poor Mozzzie lives in the USA but has no clue wat is going on in that country! He needs constant schooling.
"Mike, look how well ChatGPt sorted out your post"
If only ChatGPT could push his submit button for him.....
Or do his thinking for him… wait maybe it can.
The US Agency for International Development (USAID) has provided more than $23 billion in humanitarian and economic assistance to Ukraine since July 2023.
As of September 2023, it’s spent $2.8 billion specifically on humanitarian aid, including nearly $2 billion to support displaced Ukrainians in neighboring countries.
It’s also has spent over $20 billion on economic aid, strengthening Ukrainian industries, job creation, and exports. The country’s economy contracted by an estimated 31% in 2022 after Russia’s invasion, resulting in significant unemployment and trade challenges, among other issues.
So here we have a country that has been extensively destroyed by its neighbor. And the US has given $20 billion of general aid to the economy since June.
So what does a 31% contraction in a country’s economy look like? Well in the Great Depression over four years there was a contraction of 29%….a contraction of 31% in a year is much more calamitous than that.
And the Ukraine is expected to absorb that without any help, otherwise it’s a ‘colony’ of the US. And at the same time they are to prosecute a war against an invader with overwhelming resources.
Are you that stupid and that insensitive to the plight the Ukrainians are facing. Of course the Ukraine needs economic help. And if we don’t provide it and provide military support, we will be doing the same thing defending the next European country in a few years.
Putin has conflated this attack on a neighbor with WW2 and the Russians have bought into that view. It won’t stop here if he succeeds.
But geo political arguments aside this is a morality play. There’s a villain and a victim. Decency requires we support the brave Ukrainian people.
OK Mozart lets see whether your calculations and info are corrct. In the first instance lets look at the ammounced figures first:-
* On the day of the invasion Biden announced that the USA will provide arms to the value of $40 Billion to Ukraine. The USA would send used equipment to Ukraine and buy new replacement weaponry for the US A rmy.
* A few days later Pelosi announced a House approval of $1 billion in "Budgerray Support".
Arms delivery
In September three senior Ukraine generals fighting in Eastern Ukraine complained to a Lithuanian newspaper that the fighting army has received only about 30% of the arms sent to Ukraine. This issue was raised during questioning of the Defense Force repesentative at a Senate hearing said the DF Rep answered hat they are aware of the problem and they sent a USA Colonel to Kiev to co-ordinate receipt and delivery of armaments and ammunition to the Army. By that time 80% of the $40 billion was delivered. and according to calculation at least $25 billion weapons vanished into thin air.
The Pelosi $1 Billion
The money was personally delivered to Ukraine by Pelosi and Schiff - what they told Zelenskyy and co nobody knows. What the Ukrainians did with the money is common knowledge. The Ukrainians followed the advice as to investment of money for a top class return from the World Economic Forum website which promoted FTX.as a top class investment opportunity - that apromotion advert vanished from the WE F website when Bankman-Fried was arrested.
So FTX got the $1 billion and from there $70 million went to the Democratic Party 2022 election campaign - confirmed by the relevant election authorities and $235 000 went to Senator Romney to fund the Independent candidate campaign in Utah. The money was not for Romney - but for the Independent candidate ued by the Deemocrats to try and capture the Senate seat for the Democrats. It was the second biggest single contributor - Soros provided $156 million, plus millions to fund DA election campaigns. The rest of the money vanished into thin air.
If all the money spend iro the U S Government in the first 18 months of the war was added up it in fact amounted to $113 billion. You must have missed out on the issue.
Because of the above the US Defense Department was asked if they had a forensic audit done iro Defense Force spending relating to the war. The response was they do not have the capacity to undertake such an audit. The same response came about money directly paid to the Ukraine Government - no forensic audit was possible, That kind of response is what is to be expected from 3rd world countries - not from the USA.
For the second year of the war Biden is now asking for provision of $86 billion by the USA. The war has caused to collapse of Revenue services in Ukraine and the full operational costs of the Ukraine Govenment is funded by Washington. I do not think the votes in the USA really knows what is going on? The non-audit of expenditure leaves the field wide open for corruption in both the USA and in Ukraine. Fact is Ukraine is known to be the most corrupt country in Eturope. That is one of the reasons why the House is not prepared to release further money for Ukraine. The other condition for further money for Ukraine is that Biden must agree to a law closing down the Mexican border.
There is not a snowballs hope in hell that Ukraine would get $86 billion from the House this year. The majority of voters oppose further grants to Ukraine and the stink about the existing potentially corrupt situation is becoming known. So if Biden refuse to change the bo rder law - Ukraine will get no further assistance from the House. Even if he sign the law change it is doubtful whether the Republicans will allow futher aid of more than $10 billion dollars to Ukraine. .
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No the majority of voters don’t oppose further support to the Ukraine:
Nearly two-thirds of voters say supporting Ukraine in its war against Russia is in the national interest of the United States, a new poll found.
Sixty-five percent of voters in a Quinnipiac pollreleased Tuesday think the U.S. supporting Ukraine is in the county’s national interest. Twenty-eight percent do not think it is in the national interest of the U.S.
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That poll was dated October 17 2023. You make these confident statements but almost every time I fact check them you turn out to be wrong.
And even if you were right , that’s where leadership comes into play. The vast majority of Americans were against joining WW2, but Roosevelt was patient and helped where he could. Then Japan made it easy.
And even if the Ukraine is a corrupt country that’s no excuse for brutalizing its citizens.
And even if Russian speakers approach 50% of the population in some areas in Ukraine….the country has pulled together against the tyrant Putin. No country that’s conflicted produces that kind of resistance.
Live happily in cloud cuckoo land Moart.
There are three issues that affect the peoples' outlook on the Ukraine issue:
* According to the latest data avalable 44 million people are suffering from food insecurity in the USA caused by inflation - Fact is that families earning $60 000 per year in reality means that workers earning has by as a result and Biden's crazy regulationas and policies lost between $11 000 and $12 000 per year - money that could and was used for food supply and other living expenses than they had in 2019 a huge amount less money for food and other living coasts than they had in 2019, Wages are up by 4% - while inflation are up by as much as 15% to 18% in food costs for people. No wonder they do not have money due to redued money value and buying power. Take fo instatce a Big Mac, hips and coke rose from $9 in 2019 to $19 at presnet.
* Bidens's open border policy cost States and cities billions in accommodation feeding, medical and education spendinges States and cities have now to cut other services -eg policing and education allocation a was the case wa in New York City had to be reduced to cater for the cost of accommodation food and services to the illegal migrants, The Communists thrive when people are starving - empty stomachs cause the people to fighting against their oppressors.This is likely to be Democrats being the enemy of the "deplorables" as that bitch C linton called the ordinary people.
* The issue of the Ukraine War and the Biden Open Border Policy is affecting millions of Americans who don't even know where Ukraine is situatatd and the fact is the only danger the Russians represents is a threat to the US Colonial Government.in Ukraine. Fact is Russia is no threat to the USA or any country in Europe other than the Ukraine where millions of Russian speaking people were opprssesd by the Ukraine government - threatened with ethjnic cleansing and terrorism on the part of the Asov Battallion. 18 000 Russian Speaking civillians were amongst the killed since the Civil War broke out in 2014. A growing number of people are realizing that the USA Government through refusal to negotiate played a major role in starting of the war
Another issue - the people of Europe are suffering from the same ills that struck the USA - inflation, Open Borders and crime -with the increases forced people who cannot afford shops travel long distances to get food from food banks in for instance Germany where the fastest Growing party - it is now the scond biggest Party in Germany. In the past six months 5 countries supporting the War being part of prowar idiots parties fared badly in elections and lost power. . The next two governments to go in elections will be France and Germany. The people of Europe do not believe the BS propaganda about Russia being a threat and over the past weekend 50 000 people in Berlin protested against the war and insisted that peace negotiations commence. Europeans already realize that Russia represents no threat to them and only some brainwashed USA citizens still beleive that proganda BS.
The main problem is that there were opinion polls conducted in the USA in February 2022 and September 2023 and the findings in respect of support for th War were as follow:-
February-Mach 2022 September 2023
Democraqts 80% 52%
Republicans 72% 36%
Indxependents 57% 37%
All-in-all the same questions were asked in both suveys. In total 61% of the voters indicated they do not support further funbding from Ukraine. The polls in 2022 and 2023 covered circa 2500 and 2600 voters while the polls you refer to are much smaller and a different set of questions can cause different results.
Be it as it may there are rapid slipping support for the Ukraine War. It came as a shock to CNN and they orgaqnized some townhall meetings. It all the meetings they tried to get middle class voters to attend and to their horror when asked whether they support further funding for Ukraine io more than 16% of the middle class voters supported further funding for Ukraine - CNN was shocked that the middle class voters are opposed to funding - more so since all the Government and media propaganda failed to convince the middle and workibng class pople to support further Ukraine funding.
The worldwar story is different - Japan attacked the US navy in Pearl Harbor - nobody bar the terrorists coming through the Open Mexican Border pose a serious threat to the USA.
The above are not the key issue. The Republican Party is firm on the issue. Biden should sign into law a new Border Law and they will then provide further money for border security and add money for the Ukraine War. Ukraine will not get the $86 billion requested by Biden. Even if he signed the law Biden will be lucky to get $10 billion and that would mean the Proxy Government in Ukraine would collapse and the war ended with Ukraine loosing the present area occupied by Russia as well as the Black Sea Coast as well as Odessa and Kharkov. The Ukraine people in 2019 voted for a negotiated settlement in eastern Ukraine - the Americans in 2020 voted for an idiot who has for years had corrupt links to Ukraine, Iran and China and who caused the war in Ukraine.
Irt was Obama who said - that if you give Biden something to do in Government he would finmd a way to fuck it up to an unlimited extet. Obama also said that Biden in 52 years as Snator and subsequently was always wrong on any Foreign Affairs issue the US Government had to deal with.
The main losers in the war were -
* the Ukrainians who got forced into a war they did not want - as per the election promises by Zelenskyy in 2019; and
* the Biden Government and the USA who lost the Trust of man y people in Europe and all over the world causing Governments to distrust the USA - since the USA has a record of undermining Government in countries they want to control. Fact is the Biden Administartion should be ashamed of what they did to the poor people of Ukraine of whom hundreds of thouands died and whose health and lives were ruined by the US Goverments and their proxis in Kiev.
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Mozart
"And even if the Ukraine is a corrupt country that’s no excuse for brutalizing its citizens.
And even if Russian speakers approach 50% of the population in some areas in Ukraine….the country has pulled together against the tyrant Putin. No country that’s conflicted produces that kind of resistance.
That poll was dated October 17 2023. You make these confident statements but almost every time I fact check them you turn out to be wrong".
War is cruel - but who is responsibe for starting the war and shows zero care for the people of Ukraine. The Biden regime was sabotaging piece negotiations, instructing Zelenskyy to breach agreements and inciting him to go to war against the Russian people, Brutilizing comes straight fom Washington and the heartless Biden regime only interested in fighting a war against Russia and using the Ukrainians to self- destruct for reasons invented by t
* 'The warmnges and covered up by the Biden Regime and his puppet-masters.
The Russian population is NOT working together with the Nazi sympathiers the USA appointd in senior positions in the puppet regime established by the USA after the 2014 coup. I do ot think people are genuinely interested to self-destruct if the Ukraine Government took over and through ethnic cleansing forcing thm out of an area where their ancestors lived for centuries to be forced out of Ukraine. Fact is the ivil War uin Eastern Ukraine boke out because nobody trust the Bandera supporters and their objective to destroy the Russian Population in the central and Eastern Ukraine areas. If you really believe the Russian speaking people of Ukraine support the Biden puppets in Kiev. you better go and see a shrink. Those who live there sent thei children to Russia to get proper education when Ukraine banned Russian in the schools in Ukraine controlled by the proxy Government in Kiev.
Let me enlighten you a bit he whole foundation of the Ukraine when it became independent from Russia are based on the Ukraine onstitution The borders were discussed in detail - the Crimea got a Parliament of their own and the human rights condition was precisely outlined. The USA destroyed the constitution and therfore the whole basis on which the country of Ukraine was established.
Let me explain Poland was the biggest supporter of Ukraine in Europe and then they found out about what the Ukraine Govrnment was doing to the Polish speaking people in the Lvov area (exactly what happened to the Russians in Eastern Ukraine. That turned Poland into another Ukraine puppet Government enemy.
Lastly you have never proven me wrong on anything - I cans till se he horror of CNN faces when they found out what people really think on the issue. On a few ocassions you submit documents that was total BS - like a reort of a Woke Professor who knew Fuck All of Russian Histgory - he even said Peter th Great conquuered Ukraine. At the time of Peter the Great Ukraine fell under the Polish Commonwealth. It was 51 years after Peter the Great's death in 1725 that the Polish Commonwealth was dissolved by a treaty reached between Maria Therese of the Holy Roman Empire, Frederick the Great of Prussia and Catherine the Great of Russia 1776 agreed to dissolve the Polish Commonwealth and subdivided the teritories between the three countris. Prussia got Silesia and the Holy Roman Empire part of Western Ukraine and the Polish cities of Krakov and Lvov and the surrounding land. Send this to the Woke Professor with a message that in that article he was talking propganda shit.
Then here was a peace noegoiating meeting betwen army officers in Belarus - which was not peace negotiations at all- they were discussing was prioner exchange and ensure safe assage for refugees, The Ukraine representative trie to hand the Russian General a list cf demands and the Russians realizing it is unheard of BS. Such negotiations are normally on Head of State and sometimes on foreign minister level. There was at that time negotiations between the Turkish, Russian and Ukraine foreign minister in Turkey of which you knew nothing. When the representatives of the three countries was on the point of initialling a ceasefire agreement - Blinken phoned the Ukraine Minister to stop negotiations and to sign nothing so the war cntinued and in the period afterwards hundreds of thousands of people died and amssive dxistrution followed as well. You are too igmnorant and brainwashed by propaganda to correct anything.
What a collecion of corrupt BSters are governing the USA at present. You speak about corruption in Ukraine but the race between which is more corrupt betwen Ukraine and the USA is still on - the longer the war continues the bi gger the lead of the USA in the corruption race becomes.
Americans will support Ukraine one way or another, although it would be
nice if Europe, who are far more directly affected, would step up and
play a full roll.
In fairness Europe has stepped up. The total value of its aid to Ukraine surpassed the total value of American aid in the last month or so.
I'm not reading all that...Maaik, you won!
Stav enjoy while it lasts. In the case of te German condition that the budget ilaw there is a condition Government Budget should not exceed 3,2% of the GDP..
That 3,25 limit would be exceded by 54 billion Euro, The German people would not support a Constitutional change.and the money will most likely ot be made available at the end of the German fiinancial year. The Government can then try again next year to get the matter solved
The only option would be to reduce the budget expsnditure through reduction of the 54 billion from the budget for other service./expnditure. Likely to destroy the Socialist Party in Germany and even more so the Greens if they try the same stunt, pressent coalition The support of the Green Party has dropped from 23% to 13% , and the Socialists from 29% to 18%. That means the last straw that broke the camels back .
Summary Relative minor amounts will be fowarded to Ukraine for the simple reason that the US olction starts in January 2024usrail act that in th USA the elections start in January and ended on 8 November 2024. Any aid programs will in the circumstance be delayed. .
So you can’t admit reliable polls disprove your point. Why am I not surprised.
I'm not reading all that...Maaik, you won!
Actually by not reading that you win!
Of course Mike won Draad, what else would a Russia Bot say. You guys are actually incapable of evolving. The Ukrainian war parallels the Boer experience closely….a neighbor inventing slights to their ethnic minorities in your country….manufacturing a war, where they initially are humiliated and throw more and more resources to try and win with numbers what they can’t win with courage.
You feel so sorry for your tribe, always the victims….but you can’t find an ounce of empathy for others who parallel your experience.
Instead you find reasons to admire Putin and denigrate the cultures you come from. Bat crazy.
I am not an idiot to fall for any propaganda and look at all aspects of issues and then start asking questions about both sides of issues.that has been causing problems throughout history of the world. Presidet Kruger of the old ZAR dealt with three issues in particluar in speeches n issues that became the core of problems that turned the 20th century into a human disaster and could have been avoided.
So lets look at thse three issues he was against that had a major impact on even our lives today;-
His major approach always was history and what it should be considered at all time in dealing with issues, He said that leaders in the world should always look at what is good and noble in h isotry and built on that your future. In other words learn from the past and do not make the mitakes that leaders made in the past
Being veyy religious person himself he said their should not be any segregation against Christians in the world based on race or color of Christians. That may sound wrong to atheist and others - but if that advice of his were followed apartheid would never have become the dreaded thing it became in the future SA and in fact worldwide.
The third issue dealt with the imperialism. He spoke out about the issue of imperialism based on the idea - we are th migthtiest country in the wrd so we are entitled to conquer the world and rule over everbody else in the world.
In the case of the ZAR the problem was the issue .that drove the UK into trying to destroy his county. So
Lets look at the basic approach on issues a threat to his own country and the wold throughout history and the world faced in the world fr allfrom all time and willc otinue to face in future and still apply at pesnet:-
His main approach was sumarized in seeches he made at the tim in which he dealt wih issues facing the world then and now:-
* Take out of history things that were good and noble and build the future on that. in plain language it means do not repeat huan mistakes causing wars and destruction in the world in future.
* There should be no racial or other forms of discimination in the world between civilized people. In that approach he was supported by political leaders like John X Merriman and some forward looking people in Europe. I wi;l gve examples of that later,
* The other issue he dealt with was the idea of imperialist countries and dictaors in the world so everybody else must be subjected to what the leadeship decide. It droe the estabhisment of empires throughout hsitory of teh world. Thoughout history that was the approach of cuntries and especially the dictators in the past.
So lets look at the above issues in prspective and see how it applies to the 2oth centry and iss till with th world at preset;-
Lessons from History
This is the most important problm facing the world for all times. . .
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"Of course Mike won Draad, what else would a Russia Bot say.
Whoosh!!! I'm not a Russian bot...I absolutely despise Russia and their ANC cronies' involvement in Ukraine and I've been clear about that since day 1.
You guys are actually incapable of evolving. The Ukrainian war parallels the Boer experience closely
WTF? Jou gat man...and BTW I was actually the first to point out the parallels with the Boer war...and the futility of wasting lives in such an unwinnable conflict.
….a neighbor inventing slights to their ethnic minorities in your country….manufacturing a war, where they initially are humiliated and throw more and more resources to try and win with numbers what they can’t win with courage.
You feel so sorry for your tribe, always the victims….but you can’t find an ounce of empathy for others who parallel your experience.
BS, I've got plenty of empathy for them...you should stop looking down your nose at people, maybe then you'll see the bigger picture. Just because I don't like the little leprechaun running their country doesn't mean I don't have empathy for the people.
Instead you find reasons to admire Putin and denigrate the cultures you come from. Bat crazy.
WTF? I don't like the Russian dwarf either...what cultures did I denigrate?
My comment about Mike winning was a joke...just because I refuse to constantly p!$$ on Mike doesn't meen I support all his views...and it's bat sh!t crazy BTW.
WTF? Jou gat man...and BTW I was actually the first to point out the parallels with the Boer war...and the futility of wasting lives in such an unwinnable conflict.
How do you know its unwinnable? I mean if you where to take a conflict in the past such as the Irish War of Independence, on paper Ireland had no chance of achieving its aim when its opponent was Britain near the height of its Empire, but Ireland want on to achieve independence as a result of that conflict.
BS, I've got plenty of empathy for them...you should stop looking down your nose at people, maybe then you'll see the bigger picture.
Not sure if you're aware but by saying someone can't see the bigger picture your looking down your nose at them.
Just because I don't like the little leprechaun running their country doesn't mean I don't have empathy for the people.
Your seemed to dislike Zelensky from the start of this conflict but struggled to explain why. I know you later gave some reasons why when pushed on it (which also just so happened to be Russian narratives on certain events) but it came across as something you had to look up rather than your genuine reasons.
My comment about Mike winning was a joke...just because I refuse to constantly p!$$
Mike does make it hard for himself not just with the content of his posts but the manner in which he expresses himself an authority on everything when in fact he's the polar opposite. Frankly though from my perspective though their is no point engaging with him any longer, he's gone far too down the rabbit holes of conspiracies for anyone to help him. Just like an alcoholic, he's probably going have to reach rock bottom before he finds his own way out.
Stav...my gut tells me Zelensky is off...it all looks scripted, and staged...it's a personal thing, that doesn't mean I wish war on him and his country...it isn't meant as an argument it's a feeling...
...and I know Mike brings a lot on himself...and I don't agree with a lot, but somehow it doesn't bother me.
Stav...my gut tells me Zelensky is off...it all looks scripted, and staged...it's a personal thing, that doesn't mean I wish war on him and his country...it isn't meant as an argument it's a feeling...
When you say scripted and staged it seems that you're implying a conspiracy that he's being controlled and told what to say and do and without you having to saying it also naturally implies he's being controlled by the west for their own interests.
Stav
Unlike Mozart and ymou I try to stick to diocumentary evidence andx see what happened. - th e two of you and Mozarft stick to USA< UK and Ukraine propaganda.
Now back to the Irish War of Independence,. It was unlike the Ukraine War a Guerilla War - a vastly diffcerent war from what is happening in Ukraine. So no comparison is possible. There are another point of view that in a way was alsoried by the UK officers in the Boer War. After three years Kiuchener was tiored of the War and then had a private conversation with General Smuts that if they sign the agreement it is very likely that the Conservcativce Party would lose the next UK elections and that the Uk will then grant self-government to the two Republics. That divided the Generals in command of the Boers and in the end they signed the peace agreement with a divcision of 54 accepting the Kitchener version and 6 against so the Peace Treaty was accepted with reservations. I think that like in the case of the Irish War - the large Irish community in the USA put presssure on the US Government to put pressure on the UK Government to reach an accord with the Irish so as to stop the War. After WW1 the English had no appetite for a further wars anyway.
What happened in the case of the Irish War there were pressure on both sides to negotiate a deal - in the case of the Ukraine War the US undermined effots to find a solution to the Ukraine issues and even sabotaged efforts By the Turkish Government to get a cease- fire agreement going so as to allow for further negotiations on the issue.
Lets be quite fcrank - the Government of Ukraine is totally controlled by the USA and Ukraine is involved in a proxy war on behalf of the USA. There were repeated efforts by EU negvotiators to reach a peaceful settlement to the Ukraine Issue but the USA wanted a war and they got one.
In fact there is a widespread proof that the Ukraine government has no real say in the case of the Ukraine War - they have to carry out instruction given by the USA Government and since the latter covers the full budget of Ukraine for the past two years the Ukraine Government has to carry out orders.. .
'When you say scripted and staged it seems that you're implying a conspiracy that he's being controlled and told what to say and do and without you having to saying it also naturally implies he's being controlled by the west for their own interests."
You put it very nicely - but it is not a conspiracy theory - it si a fact. Just look at the election promises to nd the civil war in Eastern Ukraine by negitiations. The US Government sent one of the most crooked Senators esponsible for foreign aid to Ukraine for a talk and after that all Zelnskyy promises were abandoned. There are plenty of other examples where the same thing happened. The Turkish negotiation is an example where the Ukraine Foreign Minister got a direct instruction from the US Government not to sogn anything and leave the talks immdiately. FACT. Biden went to Ukraine and told them they must fre the Prosecutor investigating Burisma corruption. He threatened that if the Prosecutor or they will not gvet the gurantee to assist Ukraine invoby $1 billion. In a video recording Biden bragged about him forcing the Ukraine goernment to fire the prosecutor. The actual reason was now bcoming clear - teh Prosecutor in investigaing the company was certain to come across bribery and corruption involving the Biden family.
The fact is that Ukraine si not a Demcoracy anymore - the US control every cent the Ukraine Governmnt spent and without that assistance Ukraine would not last a month. He who paid the piper calls the tune.