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Hell broke lose in Venezuela - Trump did what was really needed for years

Started by clevermike81 REPLIES814 VIEWS· 03 Jan 2026, 11:53
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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Jan 2026, 05:26
#41
04 Jan 2026, 05:26#41

Well the terrain is much as I imagine Vietnam….I made the drive from Caracas to Valencia where we had a plant, several times. But I don’t see the long run cause. Once successful, free elections have taken place, who exactly are they going to resist.


As for the appeal to Russia and China, … that tells you what’s at stake.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
04 Jan 2026, 05:31
#42
04 Jan 2026, 05:31#42

Batshititis, i.o.w. this week's Epstein deflection . Re wotsup next week, i shiver with anticipation.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Jan 2026, 05:39
#43
04 Jan 2026, 05:39#43

Man up Blob …South Africans don’t shiver like girls.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
04 Jan 2026, 06:15
#44
04 Jan 2026, 06:15#44

Mozart man up ....... you're now an avid supporter of an unabashed authoritarian dictator.

Sies.

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BlackboyClub Pro702 posts
04 Jan 2026, 06:29
#45
04 Jan 2026, 06:29#45

never seen such bullshit from all you batshit crazy maga shaggers!

Trump the dump is nothing but a power hungry fucking arsehole the sooner he pisses off after this term the better the world will be…fucking idiot.


shit hot post sharpie bro

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Jan 2026, 06:37
#46
04 Jan 2026, 06:37#46

Don’t be daft Blob, avid, I just want to make Venezuela great again. My wife had an art exhibition in Caracas and I had a revelation on my first visit..


I was sitting with colleagues in the Tamanaco hotel. It was a stormy night and I was by the window looking out at clouds and lightning. Suddenly I saw a cross in the sky, but in an instant it was gone. I asked if any one else had seen the cross, but no one had.


The whole thing was a bit surreal and I’m not superstitious but I’ll admit it bothered me. The next morning at breakfast it was still on my mind and I looked up through the window and there it was, the Cruz del Ávila on top of the hills, which is lit at night. The clouds must have parted for an instant.


Caracas was a great city in the day and the people are terrific, they deserve better.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Jan 2026, 08:56
#47
04 Jan 2026, 08:56#47

What International Law was broken? Was Interntional Law not broken when an election was held in Venezuela and the Regime of Maduro declare iself the victor and teBobel Peace Prioze was wn by the opposition leader was banned frpm running in the election. When 7 million people fled from the country because of oppression and starvation. When the Government emptied their jails and send gan gs ters to the USA to create havoc in crimes committed by gangsters in he USA. When the Government protect drugs bein g sent to countries arund the wrld,


Was Ubtrnational Law not broken when opposition leaders fled to the Argentine E mvbassy ib Caracas and the USA had to save their lives by evacuatig them from the muredrous regime in Vebezueka,


What I ams aying is that International Law is broken regularly by illegal regomes ruining countries and tha is why the prtestng people used International Law to protect such regimes.


What is clear is that there was virtually no resistence when Muduro and his wife wascaptured in Venezuela - not eve the Venezuela arm shed little resistence. The us smallish force who got them arrested was withdrawn and there are nStroops left in Venezuela at present. In such an evionment the end result is inevitable and would result in elections being held to elect a new Govenment with international organizations to prevent another stolen election in the country.


In effect the oeration to get the dictator arrested and sent to the USA is not a war it is a targeted operation and one can expect other smila regimes to fear tha simila criminals will be removed from pwer,


In 1977 the thenm Carter Adminisrttion asssisted the takover pf power in Iran and protect the first Ayatollah toget into power, The Regime in subsequent years = especially since 2000 became the main sposoir of international terrorism with virtually n support in the country where no free elections ahs been held since 1977. Like in Venezuela the country is ruined by a regime that is undermined to rule by terror, The same applies in North Korea and the regime is prtected by China,


But back to Teheran now. It isa country where the regime is so unpopular that the people support anything to oppose the regime. When Israel started bombing Teheran last year - the egime leadership ran o Russia to ask for assistance and Putin said no the must solve their own internal problems


But Russia is wroing too in breaking International Law in Ukraine - but the Kiev regime also brke international law .ending up in a rogue regiome ruining the country under direct protection of the USA Government under Biden or whomsoever used the Autopen. to prevent internaional settlement of he organization.


What I am driving at is that International Law is not there to protect rogue regimes like hapened in countries like Veenzuela and Iran and using that term to support the regimes is not at all acceptable .


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Jan 2026, 11:48
#48
04 Jan 2026, 11:48#48

FAFO explained.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Jan 2026, 12:47
#49
04 Jan 2026, 12:47#49

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As per normal your minmd is fukced up totally. There is of oday no armed forces in the USA in Venezuela.


There could have been some co-opera tion woth internal politicians o get rid of Maduro permanently - hence the fact that the criminal dictator is captured and taken to the USA. What is likely to ahppen is that if he gamgsters and togues try to establish a Government - military action would follow.


The latest news is that Trump is in communication woth the Venezuela Deputy President and he would be poltically in charge until an election under international su[ervision will be held and a new Government will take over, Yjhat Gpvernment will be protected and supported by the USA in a coubntry that has been destabilized fr years,


There were no US lives and amaments lost in th e prcess and that idiot Senator you quoted above is normally drunk when attending meetings of the Senate anyway. What he is saying is that C ongress must have authority to cintrol war being waged another country - but this was not a war anyway - it was a raid like happene in the case of the nuclear installations in Iran and the bombardment of terrorists in Nigeria and Yemen.


The soldoers went in - with some help from within Venezuela to take out a dictaotr and his wife to et the country back to democracxy and withdrew all the foces from the country. What Trump said is the USA will support a repalcement Government and roper election and will no send in troops to prtect democraxy in Ukraine, If the facts you stated was true then there would be US oldiers in Vdenezuela today, and there is none.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Jan 2026, 12:53
#50
04 Jan 2026, 12:53#50

I am really sad to see how some members have lost the abiity t think for themselves and support rog ue and cruel dictators all out.. The people of Venezyuela will be stabilized over the enxt two years guaranteed by Trump - nothing else, NO WAR IN REALITY.


Why don't you visit Venezuela to support Maduro publicly in that country and see what happens to you - It will definitely not nice to see, .

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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
04 Jan 2026, 15:36
#51
04 Jan 2026, 15:36#51

Look at this backward redneck go...DumbMike just expects Venezuela to go along with Trump's plan.

Their will always be a local insurgency in a situation like this - even if it is small but continuous hit and runs.


Trump wants the gold and other short term extractions, as well as the longer term efforts of building oil fields which could take years.


In time the MAGA body bags will start piling up. Then it will make it easier to impeach Trump for war crimes.

The Epstein files are still in the picture, so the cause to impeach Trump will increase.

Trump apparently has one of the lowest polls by a US president ever. He has delivered for billionaire friends and campaign donors - but Trump is doing very badly in the independent vote.




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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
04 Jan 2026, 15:43
#52
04 Jan 2026, 15:43#52

Allies within the Maduro camp


  1. Delcy Rodríguez (vice president / de facto leader):
  2. After Maduro’s capture, Delcy Rodríguez has emerged as the de facto head of the state apparatus, still publicly insisting Maduro remains the legitimate president.?
  3. Trump has nonetheless signalled that she is acceptable as Venezuela’s new leader and described direct contacts where she supposedly told US officials “we’ll do whatever you need,” suggesting Washington sees her as someone it can work with, even if she is not a reliable long?term ally.?
  4. Other regime insiders:
  5. Key power brokers like Diosdado Cabello and security chiefs remain aligned with the Chavista system and denounce US intervention, but they are part of the same state machinery Trump is trying to co?opt through Rodríguez.?
  6. Their cooperation or sabotage will be one of the clearest indicators of whether Trump’s attempt to “take over” actually penetrates the security apparatus, or stays rhetorical.?



Allies in the opposition camp


  1. María Corina Machado and the opposition bloc
  2. Machado, a long?time opposition leader and recent Nobel Peace Prize winner, has strongly backed Trump’s tougher line and urged him for years to help oust Maduro.?
  3. However, Trump has now publicly said she lacks the “respect” or support to run the country, and current reporting suggests he is sidelining her in favour of working with Rodríguez, which strains any potential alliance.?
  4. Broader opposition movement
  5. Many opposition activists and exiles welcomed Maduro’s removal but are wary or openly critical of Trump’s plan to administer Venezuela, calling it “bizarre” and warning about chaos if the US bypasses local democratic forces.?
  6. So while there is ideological affinity with Trump’s anti?Maduro stance, there is no unified, solid alliance between Trump and the opposition as a whole; his current strategy is creating tension with them.?

How to read “early signs” going forward

  1. If Trump is really taking over, expect:
  2. Continued or expanded US military presence (bases, “advisers,” no?fly or maritime control zones).?
  3. Oil sanctions and licenses used as a daily lever over whoever governs in Caracas, with US firms getting privileged access once compliance is secured.?
  4. Institutional moves: pressure around elections, constitutional rewrites, or security?sector reforms designed with heavy US input.?
  5. If his control stalls, expect:
  6. Friction with Rodríguez and other Chavistas, louder accusations of “colonial” occupation, and possible fragmentation of the state.?
  7. The opposition trying to re?insert itself as the legitimate transition partner, appealing to Europe and Latin American democracies to counterweight Washington’s preferences.?

In short, Trump has leverage and some provisional partners inside the regime and in the opposition, but his choice to lean toward a Maduro loyalist (Rodríguez) over the traditional opposition is the most telling early sign of how he intends to “take over” Venezuela and who his first?tier allies are likely to be.


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
04 Jan 2026, 19:29
#53
04 Jan 2026, 19:29#53

So what would you have done Shark….just left Maduro in place or the same thing, passed a stern UN resolution. More than anything this underlines the bankruptcy of the little men in suits at the UN. This is exactly the kind of disaster they should have fixed years ago….the reason why the UN was founded.

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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
04 Jan 2026, 20:11
#54
04 Jan 2026, 20:11#54

If a dictator can be removed in one country, then why stop there?

Half the world have authoritarian dictators.


If Trump tries to cheat in the next election (again) and is successful despite losing the vote, he is just the latest authoritarian dictator.


The UN is the only body with the authority to act. However, in such a divided world - a global organisation is not very functional, but it at least it is some type of world order.


When Saddam Hussein was removed from office, it caused a total catastrophe in the Middle East that spread into Africa..

As bad as Saddam was, he was better than the new militant groups that arose due to the power vacuum- like ISIS.etc.

Incidentally, Trump clamed in his first term that he single handily destroyed ISIS. They still seem to be around.

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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
04 Jan 2026, 20:14
#55
04 Jan 2026, 20:14#55

Trump also stated that he plans to invade other countries in the Western Hemisphere. I think he said Cuba was his next target.


I suppose Trump will take over the running of Cuba as well. Trump will steal their natural assets. These people will fight back. Their technology is not very good, but they can do gorilla warfare with lots of small bandit operations that will strike back.


The more countries that Trump invades, the harder it is going to be for America to rule these countries.

Even if they appoint a puppet who is favourable to America, it will create civil war. Many people will die including the MAGA army.


Trump is proving he is the paedophile version of Hitler.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
04 Jan 2026, 20:34
#56
04 Jan 2026, 20:34#56
cartoon

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
04 Jan 2026, 20:34
#57
04 Jan 2026, 20:34#57
CCCC


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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
04 Jan 2026, 20:42
#58
04 Jan 2026, 20:42#58
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Jan 2026, 20:47
#59
04 Jan 2026, 20:47#59

"Trump is proving he is the paedophile version of Hitler."


Stupid should hurt.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Jan 2026, 20:48
#60
04 Jan 2026, 20:48#60

Ou Bobby, this isn't war...not even close.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Jan 2026, 22:07
#61
04 Jan 2026, 22:07#61

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
04 Jan 2026, 22:13
#62
04 Jan 2026, 22:13#62


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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
04 Jan 2026, 22:17
#63
04 Jan 2026, 22:17#63

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
04 Jan 2026, 22:48
#64
04 Jan 2026, 22:48#64


This is genius,” Donald Trump enthused. It was 22 February 2022. Vladimir Putin had just declared parts of eastern Ukraine to be independent and sent in Russian troops to serve as so-called peacekeepers. The once and future American president was impressed, even inspired. “We could use that on our southern border,” Trump mused.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Jan 2026, 00:07
#65
05 Jan 2026, 00:07#65

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I read all your BS above in utter amazeement - do you really believe the tter BS you spread on site, If you had any thinking ability yourself at all?


The real fact is that Trump had inside collaboration to get rid of Maduro. If there was any resistence the effort would hae resulted in major losses in men and there was none. At resent there is not a single US soldier in Venezuela,


The S upreme Court in Venezuela has ruled that tjee VP takes pver [pwer om Vezuela until aan election to elect a new President. The VP apparently co-operated with teh U S Government when the raid actualy happened,


Maybe you should perhaps watcg the following video as we;:-


https://www.foxnews.com/video/6387229215112


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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
05 Jan 2026, 00:25
#66
05 Jan 2026, 00:25#66

You reference self-thinking, then you quote Fox News... What a dolt.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Jan 2026, 00:25
#67
05 Jan 2026, 00:25#67

So nobody has any suggestions they just hate what Trump did mostly because they are afraid it might work.

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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
05 Jan 2026, 00:27
#68
05 Jan 2026, 00:27#68

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
05 Jan 2026, 00:40
#69
05 Jan 2026, 00:40#69

they just hate want Trump did mostly because ................


Pasop with the magic Mac whisky, a frightening dementia trigger, especially for oubalies.

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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
05 Jan 2026, 02:01
#70
05 Jan 2026, 02:01#70

Thanks for the concern Blob but I’ve switched to Highland Park.


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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
05 Jan 2026, 03:52
#71
05 Jan 2026, 03:52#71

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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
05 Jan 2026, 03:53
#72
05 Jan 2026, 03:53#72

If you accept cookies, the video plays. Biden and CleverMike

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sharkbokCaptain20,097 posts
05 Jan 2026, 04:00
#73
05 Jan 2026, 04:00#73

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
05 Jan 2026, 04:05
#74
05 Jan 2026, 04:05#74

JaysusMary&Joseph ... Help, can I somehow unsee that ?


Shame on you oom.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
05 Jan 2026, 07:11
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05 Jan 2026, 07:11#75

I am sick and tored of using diversion from topics by introducing BS iro Trump and Epstein - which h as fuck-all to do with the issue of Venezuela. Neother can you prove anything by showing a photo of the two dim cunts. Epstein was part of he NZ rich scene and was also for a while until he was banned by Trump.


Then there was also a Democratic Party lie who was colludng with the Democrats to raie finds for them and collusion between members and Epstein because Epsein hated Trump. You should know by now dim cunts that if he Democrats had anything real on Trump relating to Epstein - they would have laid real charges against him based on Eosein case and not the shit cherges they came up with in 2024. How many tmes were you warned it was BS charges and they kept on claiming he would go tp jail.


Hundreds of thousands o refugee ancities in he USA and South A merica and even Europe the removal of Maduro, The only people supporting the shot is you and elements in the Democratic Party. What the Venezuelan people want is irrelevant to Democrats. Their support or opposition hinges on Trump. Trump should have voiced support for Maduro. Democrats would be DEMANDING the USA should rmove him from power. So Trump had him arrested in Caracas without bloodshed nd you lot goes nbananas about international law,.


The stupidity of the site idiots who was brainwashed into total idiocy is really amazing.




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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
05 Jan 2026, 07:59
#76
05 Jan 2026, 07:59#76

Neother can you prove anything by showing a photo of the two dim cunts


Ja, I've gotta agree, it don't look pretty. :)

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
05 Jan 2026, 23:56
#77
05 Jan 2026, 23:56#77

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
06 Jan 2026, 09:11
#78
06 Jan 2026, 09:11#78

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
06 Jan 2026, 10:10
#79
06 Jan 2026, 10:10#79

Like his tjommie Putin, the action is a gross violation of international law.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
06 Jan 2026, 11:06
#80
06 Jan 2026, 11:06#80

What international law - what is a gross violation of law is stealing eections and drug trafficking on international level - dictatorial rule - gamgsterism and murder of opponents. So keep on suppoting the above by vaguely referring to dubiopus interntiona law,


If the above was not involved interntional law may come up - with the above it is stupidity to even refer to it.


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