How does this happen in New Zealand???

Not quite Rooi

My view is that their faith and beliefs are not compatible with our way of life.

That much is obvious.

Some people see the invasion and are fine with it. Other people see the invasion and feel like they have to say something about it. The crazies see the invasion and feel threatened, responsible, inspired or whatever emotion gets them going and then do what happened in NZ.

 The point is that the far left created this problem by bending over backwards and creating an ever growing number of seriously disgruntled citizens. Some of which are willing to commit murder to make their point.

That's the situation as it stands. 

The Islam problem is a real one and governments failure to act has created a deepening feeling of despair among people who feel that their way of life under threat. 

Hence my use of the word overreaction.

And hence my feeling that the left needs to take some of the responsibility.

There are approx. 75000 Muslims in NZ . Speaking as a fairly long-term resident I cannot recall a single violent incident emanating from their society. Not one.

The Christchurch horror has sparked an outpouring of empathy & support throughout the land . Every mosque in the country has been turned into a shrine with predominantly white NZers leaving floral tributes, dropping a knee to pray, or the Pacific Islanders singing their hymns.

This tragedy is unifying the nation ..... as many banners proclaim "THEY ARE US'.

Koosie says the opinion I've expressed is an attempt to suck up to Mozart. 

Wrong.

Normally I don't bother to defend myself when Koosie bangs on about me sucking up to Mozart because quite frankly it is baseless. He uses my comments as an opportunity to spill malicious and vindictive hatred of myself. Same old, same old.Truth be told I have yet to read Mozart's opinion on the subject and it was Plum's post which caught my attention simply because it has similarities to my own and that it raises some interesting perspectives. As we empathize and sympathize with Muslims here was an opportunity to debate, here was an opportunity to play the ball not the man but typically Koosie strikes by singling me out for the full treatment of his hate.

I don't hate Muslims. I mean them no harm. But from past experiences I do not trust them and I believe no matter how backwards we bend to accomodate them to be part of us, they don't consider themselves to be part of us even though they enjoy the benefits that western civilzation provides. We in the western world won't be allowed the things we take for granted if Muslims were given power and authority over us. You are kidding yourself if you think the example we live in western society will change the mindset of Muslims.

There are living examples of Indonesia, Iran, Saudi Arabia etc of what life is like under Islam, why would it be any different once they're in power in a western country?

Nope.

100 peaceful people following a peaceful doctrine = Great

100 peaceful people following an evil doctrine = Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh, Indonesia, Somalia, Iran, Iraq and in and on.

Would you want to live in even one if those nations?

There's your answer. 

And do you know what will happen once they outnumber you? 

Not on one single occasion have Islamists been in the majority and not persecuted the other religions in the area. There is long list of countries and a longer list of people that have fallen victim to Islam. 

Keep making it about the individuals to to justify your argument. 

It's not about the individual. It's a about the belief system that governs them.

It's about the burden of action that it places on its followers and the freedom of oppression it grants them over those that disagree.

And this particular argument is about people that don't want to fall victim to that and overreact. 

And the bigger question of why the population of a country have no say in how many and which immigrants are allowed in.

And maybe you should do some research into the treatment of women by Muslims, not in their own countries, but once they've been granted refugee status in the west and are living there. They're  not isolated cases either. It's widespread.

What is confusing you?

Plum these buffoons have no clue whatsoever and are ripe for an islamic takeover. Bob has, in my opinion, always been a good guy but unfortunately he just doesn't get it. Like Mohammed before he had any clout, muslims normally play it cool and act all reasonable. Like Mohammed, once muslims have clout they rise up and slaughter their hosts. These days in the USA with the support of he demonrats and their elite Globalist MSM they feel safe to threaten all and everyone.

Ou roovtwvt goes on about how we are applauding this attack. He of course is once more is lying through his yellow false teeth. The act was that of somebody unhinged but acts of ion or whatever this really was, are bound to happen given the ongoing jihad against kafirs. One can safely predict that should the muslims continue killing kafirs in the kafir countries they will experience as nasty responses.

The whole trouble is the Quoran and its 164 jihad verses. Muslims thus will never cease their attacks and thus it is insanity to have them in any non muslim country. Go and look up what the word Hijira means - jihad through immigration etc.

‘This is Not Who We Are’ – New Zealand Prime Minister Dons Hijab After Mosque Shooting

There has been non-stop media coverage over the shooting, yet when Christians are slaughtered by Islamic terrorists, the media is silent.

New Zealand’s Prime Minister sprung into action immediately and called for stricter gun control laws following the mass shooting.

Now she’s bowing to Sharia law and donning a hijab as she assures the Muslim community that “New Zealand is united in its grief.”

“This is not New Zealand,” Jacinda Ardern said to Muslims on Saturday. 

By the way rooijackass just to remind you - you are not a moderate - you are a far left radical fascist open borders, infanticide loving globalist loon abjectly enslaved to your Globalist masters. Just so you know.

Hahahahaahahahhahaha

Is it 7 or 70 virgins? 

Thought it was 7 but if it's 70 then I'm jumping ship, there's no way I'm going to miss out!

Cloudy

My views are my views. They exist entirely independently of you or your perceived view.  

They are not aimed at you now nor we're they at the start. 

Beeno's views are the same. 

It's not about you personally.

Stop trying to pretend it is.

The Muslim is responsible for a lot of misery across the planet. They have murdered a lot of innocent people in cowardly fashion ... men, women, and children and they've been doing it for a long time.

They've shattered lives in almost every country across the globe. In short, they are a pestilence ... a plague ... and have had some sort of retribution coming for a long time.

Surely they didn't expect their murderous actions to go unanswered. They're like the fcking Palestinians. They throw a stone and when it comes back they cry out ... "but why" ... ?

There is no end to their evil ways ... ask any of the countries in Europe who were foolish enough to open their borders to this filth ... and now that a response has come .. all we hear is their tearful cries ... claiming innocence ... "why did this happen to us" ... "we are a peaceful people" ... and yet these "innocent", "peaceful" people rape, among many other atrocities, as far as they go ... without regard to their hosts feelings.

Muslim lives have been lost in Christchurch ... but it is a piss in the ocean in comparison to the innocent lives they've taken.

You guys have had it coming ... so stop complaining now ... you are not innocent in any of this.

You could have stood up against your murderous brothers and done something other than renounce their cowardly action in the media. What have you done to stop their cowardly attacks on the innocent? 

If I were running the show in this country, I would burn every mosque down to the ground and ban this oppressive religion. 

Dont appologies for me Cloudy, as far as I am concerned these gimps are as every bit as dangerous as a muslim terrorist with their hate filled brain cell . And as such they can carry on fucking off.

What kind of fuckwit attempts to defend such an atrocity?

A white Aussie scumbucket murdered at least 50 men. women & children.

Beano, Plum & CC ........ FUCK YOU,

Everyone thinks that Tarrant is a looney and yes perhaps I'm guilty of believing the same.

But is he really? Let's consider what we know.

Tarrant was very deliberate in flying under the radar. He methodically planned his attack. He knew when the mosque would be occupied by worshippers. He obtained a gun licence and bought the weapons to effectively kill as many as possible. He even deliberately set about videoing his deliberate act.

No, this isn't a looney, this is someone who had a well planned agenda. A looney to me is someone who does the unexplainable, something out of character and in some cases something in a flash, on the spur of the moment.

What Tarrant has done is premeditated and fully explainable.

He is a far right nationalist full of hate and has shown the world the ugliest side of racism.

Blo

It is horrible and I don't condone it. Not at all. 

If you go back to some of my posts from years ago, I  talk about the amount of Iraqis killed...400k(innocent people) and how I believe it was a war crime and the perpetrators escaped justice. The knock on effect of that war, and Libya, was ISIS, and how many people died under them.

The question is whether or not politicians should accept some responsibility for the state things are in now. A state which is only deteriorating.

If a community is unhappy with something, how long is it before someone takes the law into their own hands?

Do you know that Poland is one of the few Eurpean countries to not suffer any terror attacks. Guess what their take on refugees is?

Their stance is that Islam is incompatible with their way of life and they take zero refugees. At the same time they offer support to Islamic nations to assist them in accepting refugees. 

Evidence shows that Poland have the correct approach. 

Why has that evidence been ignored and why is nobody held accountable.

I have zero issues with Pakistanis or Arabs, but their cult is horrible and I refuse to accept that they kill people for apostasy. I refuse to accept that the rape victim is guilty. 

Nothing's gonna change my v iew on that.

Left–right political spectrum - Wikipedia

Rooitwit has been at his most stupid about this whole vs and that means as dumbas a rock. The Chump cant get worse surely!

The World Net Daily reported:

The primary suspect in the massacre Friday of 49 people at two mosques in New Zealand named a prominent British fascist leader who was allied with Italy’s Benito Mussolini in the 1930s as the historical political figure with whom he most identified.

Tarrant wrote that Sir Oswald Mosley “is the person from history closest to my own beliefs.”

Describing himself as a “racist,” Tarrant state’s he’s not a conservative and could be labeled a socialist, “depending on the definition.”

Mosely, who was photographed with Mussolini on a visit to Italy in 1936, was the leader of the British Union of Fascists in the 1930s after serving as a member of Parliament…

…Tarrant says he’s “an actual fascist.”

“I am sure the journalists will love that,” he says, adding he considers himself “an Eco-fascist by nature.”

Tarrant also declares that the “nation with the closest political and social values to my own is the People’s Republic of China.”
Bwahahahahahahaahahahha crash goes poor rooitw it

The shooter left a 74-page manifesto where “Trump” turns up one and only time.
Here is the one Trump reference from the killer’s manifesto:

Were/are you a supporter of Donald Trump?

As a symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose? Sure. As a policy maker and leader? Dear god no.

Despite this the liberal mainstream media has wasted no time blaming President Trump for the horrific attack.

On Sunday FOX News Sunday anti-Trump hack Chris Wallace questioned White House Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney about the mass shooting and tried to pin it on President Trump.

Of course, Chris Wallace edited the killer’s comments on the US president.
Mulvaney destroyed him.

Chris Wallace: “As a symbol of renewed identity and common purpose? sure.” What does the president think of that?

Mick Mulvaney: in fact I’m a little disappointed you didn’t put up the next sentence. The next sentence because I looked at it last night and it said, “What about his policies and as a leader?” And he said, “Dear God, no.” I don’t think it’s fair to cast this person as a supporter of Donald Trump anymore than it is to look at his sort of eco-terrorist passages in that manifesto to align him with Nancy Pelosi or Miss Ocasio-Cortez.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA OH MY ACHING SIDES

Well, except for the little fact that he didn't mention Nancy Pelosi or AOC in his manifesto while he did mention Bozo . . . along with Anders Breivik and Radovan Karadzic.

Are you going to try and convince us that his heroes Anders Breivik and Radovan Karadzic were globalist liberal open border lefties?

Waaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaha!

CNN and poor rooijackass crash yet again

Muslim Doctor Praises Trump and GOP in Live Interview — CNN Quickly Whisks Her Away (VIDEO)

Dr. Qanta Ahmed: You should know this president and this administration is often castigated as Islamophobic, but I move in the Muslim world, in Egypt, in Oman, in Jordan, in Iraqi Kurdistan, where this president is beloved. This president and the Republican Party going back to George Bush is very dearly held.

CNN quickly cut the segment and moved on

Not exactly what very fake news CNN (and rooijackass would have hoped for) was hop ing for

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha

"But actually no.....he was asked:

"Were/are you a supporter of Donald Trump" .....and he answered:"

He was asked?

LMAO!

Moffie thinks it was some kind of interview!

The stupid old fossil hasn't twigged that the entire Manifesto (including the questions) was written by Tarrant!

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahaha!

This is a classic! And the cherry on top is when the hilarious fool talks about a "foot shoot".

"He was asked" LMAO!

Seems the Chump doesn't understand plain English. 

How stupid can you get. The answer is easy look at dumbass rooitwit and his sidekick Cloudy. Big competition developing between these two. Hahahahaha!