ICE Detain the Irish (The American Dream Nightmare..)

So because he is ‘model citizen’ it’s humane to to give him a separate path….vs the simple man who is breaking his back working in gardens and uses all his meagre savings to get legal help.

Disgusting elitism.

I argue that neither he nor the simple man breaking his back working gardens deserves to be treated in such a manner, I'd also consider them both otherwise model citizens contributing to the US in their own way, and overall net benefit. So you can go shove your nonsense elitism claim.

….could ‘have’ said. Irish education is abysmal. Hey maybe this Paddy was just an uneducated Mick.

Oh look, Colonel Kluas Von Mozart Grammar-Nazi Esq is back. Maybe you should get a refund on whatever education you have because it certainly hasn't vaccinated you from the ideology of stupidity.

I argue that neither he nor the simple man breaking his back working gardens deserves to be treated in such a manner, I'd also consider them both otherwise model citizens contributing to the US in their own way, and overall net benefit.

Lets not add dishonesty to your elitism….you specifically said:

Ah so despite being married to an American, owning a company and paying his taxes, having no criminal record for even a minor offense, having a valid work permit and being in the process of obtaining a green card, he deserved to be moved 4,000 miles away from where he was living thrown into a room with 71 other people

in other words own a company a different rules should apply.

It’s Klaus not Kluas you moron. And are you now saying every 2026 Nazi is a German. Bigot….that won’t go down well in the theme park,

in other words own a company a different rules should apply

Yep, what logic is this .... no reasoning behind it whatsoever .... it's a stupid comment to make or even try and argue

Lets not add dishonesty to your elitism….you specifically said:

LOL I'm elitist, you're the most stuck up pompous prat I've ever come across. Your head is so far up your own arse its come back out of your neck and got stuck up it a second time.

Ah so despite being married to an American, owning a company and paying his taxes, having no criminal record for even a minor offense, having a valid work permit and being in the process of obtaining a green card, he deserved to be moved 4,000 miles away from where he was living thrown into a room with 71 other people

I'm pointing out that he's active contributor to American society. The same way your hypothetical gardener is. Neither are in anyway a threat to society, and neither would be scrounging off the state while out of detention.

You know there is a difference between them and say violent criminals who pose a genuine threat to society. There is no need for them to have their human rights violated in such a manner.

Yep, what logic is this .... no reasoning behind it whatsoever .... it's a stupid comment to make or even try and argue

That's because its a strawman argument.

"This guy was in every other way a model immigrant that the US claims it want. Surely there was more humane way of dealing with this case. Once detained they could of said we are processing your deportation, then released him to go home and came back for him when they were ready to deport him. He wasn't considered a flight risk but if he did flee the country hey problem solved for them. If he tried to go into hiding that would of meant he would of permanently jeopardize ever getting a green card."

Except for the part where he stayed in the country illegally for 19 years. The proceeds of crime is forfeit...he broke the law just as much as the poor Hispanics, crossing the Southern border in desperation.

LOL I'm elitist, you're the most stuck up pompous prat I've ever come across. Your head is so far up your own arse its come back out of your neck and got stuck up it a second time.

A 10 year old kid would be too embarrassed to write that. Here’s the truth. You came on here as the ‘superior Irishman’. But the truth is you are just another robot in the woke army with no original ideas, no sense of what is going on in the world and no worldly experience.

But would you have gone to bat for a Frenchman in detention. Nope your outrage is saved for a fellow Mick (I prefer that term).

And in the process you have demonstrated you value his anguish above that of others in the same boat. According to you he shouldn’t even be with them. Whereas in actual fact breaking the law for 18 years is much worse.

An elitist, a hypocrite and a Woke warrior. And totally irrlevant.

He's fortunately wasn't executed by being shot in the face or 5 times in his back while lying defenceless facedown in the snow.

Wow Mozart, you sound so 'Steve Miller' bad .

Achtung Stav !

A 10 year old kid would be too embarrassed to write that. Here’s the truth. You came on here as the ‘superior Irishman’. But the truth is you are just another robot in the woke army with no original ideas, no sense of what is going on in the world and no worldly experience.

Struck a nerve did I. Well I guess that means my posts have a maturity level at least 5 years more than yours. This coming from a man who how many times felt the need to proclaim himself to have schooled a person he's debating with or proclaimed victory with game set and match and from a man who simply won't stop posting in a topic until he gets the last post so he can tell himself he's won. I can't tell what's worse the fact you make some of the most stupid posts imaginable (oh that dumb ass post on Trump being responsible for the Danes apologising to Greenland over forced sterilization was another god tier dozy of a post of ignorance) the insane overestimation of your own intelligence or the mind boggling lack of self awareness. You accuse me of not having an original idea, but practically every post you have made in the last few months is woke this and woke that (mostly it's inept trolling), everything you don't like is woke, tell me did you come up with that on your own or is just a coincidence all the MAGA right wing retards are doing it as well? Hmm I wonder.

But would you have gone to bat for a Frenchman in detention. Nope your outrage is saved for a fellow Mick (I prefer that term).

Did you notice in my very first post on this topic I said " I'm sure there is plenty of other people of different nationalities going through the same." Not once have I brought up the topic of the man's nationality and I went to bat for your hypothetical gardener. Seamus Culleton has been treated appallingly but so have countless other people and nationalities. Instead of condemning his treatment and that of others you of course went back to classic tactic of whatboutism and brought up a nonsense comparison of ICE dentition centres to European prisons (and if anyone can't figure out why it's nonsense go ask any A.I tool you want). And the funny thing is you're even incompetent when it comes to whataboutisms because you don't know what the genuine issues are with the European asylum system.

And in the process you have demonstrated you value his anguish above that of others in the same boat. According to you he shouldn’t even be with them. Whereas in actual fact breaking the law for 18 years is much worse.

Where have I demonstrated I valued his anguish above that of others. Fact is no one should be in that boat, you should be appalled that this is happening , never mind that your defending it. The punishment should reflect the severity of the crime but even then there is limits, your still dealing with human beings who have rights. I wouldn't treat animals like that never mind a human being. Send the man back to his home in Boston, if his green card application is successful, leave him alone, if the deportation flight is ready before that then deport him and he can pursue obtaining a green card again after, don't lock him up in a squalid hell hole for 5 months and this applies to anyone in a similar boat regardless of nationality.

An elitist, a hypocrite and a Woke warrior. And totally irrlevant.

It's irrelevant you moron. Hahaha, schooled, game set and match etc etc

But yeah I'm totally irrelevant, says the man who's appears pretty obsessed with one upping me.

He's fortunately wasn't executed by being shot in the face or 5 times in his back while lying defenceless facedown in the snow.

Careful now, pointing that out is superior-ism and elitism!

Wow Mozart, you sound so 'Steve Miller' bad .

Achtung Stav !

As the German propaganda loudspeaker proclaimed in Saving Private Ryan. The Statue of Liberty ist kaput!

Struck a nerve did I

Nope just confirmed how childish you are.

oh that dumb ass post on Trump being responsible for the Danes apologising to Greenland over forced sterilization was another god tier dozy of a post of ignorance)

Sure the Danes decided by sheer happenstance to apologize after 50 years….Trump raising the issue of Greenland’s fate had nothing to do with it.

Where have I demonstrated I valued his anguish above that of others.

Ah so despite being married to an American, owning a company and paying his taxes, having no criminal record for even a minor offense, having a valid work permit

The obvious interpretation he had rights because he owned a company….why mention that fact otherwise.

As the German propaganda loudspeaker proclaimed in Saving Private Ryan. The Statue of Liberty ist kaput

Yet again the Mick whose country chose not to fight fascism accuses the country that stopped fascism, of fascism. A brave people that blow up horses and old men in boats. And who live off the tax haven proceeds generated by the country he accuses of being fascist.

Stalag 26

In 2020, Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen issued a written apology, stating: "We cannot change what happened. But we can take responsibility and apologize to those we should have cared for but failed to do". In March 2022, after the six remaining survivors launched legal action, the government provided a face-to-face apology and 250,000 Danish kroner ($38,000) in compensation to each survivor.

1. The case first gained public attention in 1996 through a book by Tine Bryld, yet for years, successive Danish governments argued that the events belonged to the past and refused to apologize.

The incident is considered a "dark chapter" in the colonial history between Denmark and Greenland.

:)

DbD ...fyi.

Voluntary Departure: NZ often encourages overstayers to leave voluntarily, which may avoid the need for detention.

:)

luv this place as much as my beloved Cape Town

Donald Trump first publicly expressed interest in purchasing Greenland in

August 2019, during his first presidential term.

NPR +1

1. Initial Interest (2019): Trump discussed the possibility of buying the island with his advisers, describing it as a "large real estate deal" and stating that it would be "strategically nice" for the U.S. to own.
2. Reaction: The proposal was quickly rejected by Danish and Greenlandic officials, with Greenland's Prime Minister calling it an "absurd discussion".
3. Response: Following the rejection, Trump cancelled a planned trip to Denmark in August 2019.

…..Blob you can’t just research what supports your point. But….hahaha…thanks, you absolutely nailed the response to Trump’s initiative.

". . . you're the most stuck up pompous prat I've ever come across. Your head is so far up your own arse its come back out of your neck and got stuck up it a second time."

Be honest now Stav, how long have I been telling you this?

Moffie, just for the record, Stav never came onto this board with a superior attitude.

That would be . . . ummmmm . . . you!

If you feel Stav has some kind of "superior Irishman" attitude it's probably because your self-esteem has been eroded as Stav smashes your pitiful and infantile little arguments every time you're dumb enough to cross swords with him.

I know that's not what you want to hear, but I couldn't think of a nicer way to explain it to you . . . and I'm quite sure you won't appreciate my setting you straight on certain fundamental truths. That's what I get for being a giving person.

The Gimp arrives supporting his Master….so we have the moron who believes the Great Explorers were vaccinated supporting the Mick that believes owning a company gives you special privileges under US Law.

The blind leading the blind

ROFL

Nope just confirmed how childish you are.

Pot Kettle Black.

Sure the Danes decided by sheer happenstance to apologize after 50 years….Trump raising the issue of Greenland’s fate had nothing to do with it.

The Danes opened an investigation into the issue in 2022. You know who wasn't President of the US back then, Donald Trump.

Trump raising the issue of Greenland's sovereignty had nothing to do with. It changed nothing, For a long time the people of Greenland's preferred choice is to be independent country, that independence sentiment has long existed in Greenland well before Trump came along, but its not like Denmark felt compelled to apologize because they feared Greenlanders now had a new option of joining the US and that they were seriously considering it, because its clear as day that the overwhelming majority of Greenlanders have absolutely zero interest in joining the US and never have. Had the Danes not apologised it would not have changed anything, the Greenlanders preference would still have been for independence, with the apology it remains for independence, there path to independence remains the same regardless and their preference to remain part of Denmark over the US if forced to chose is clear. So you're talking absolute shit, as you do 90% of the time. And not only that, but it's fucking insulting to Greenlanders as well, as if it wasn't their decades long campaign in the pursuit of justice that lead to the apology. You talk about me claiming superiority, where you implying only American action's have any consequences and no one else has any agency.

The obvious interpretation he had rights because he owned a company….why mention that fact otherwise.

Did I mention that fact on its own? No I pointed out along with several other facts, that would indicate he he was a model citizen in every other way. My issue isn't that he was detained and faces deportation, its the manner of it.

Yet again the Mick whose country chose not to fight fascism accuses the country that stopped fascism, of fascism. A brave people that blow up horses and old men in boats. And who live off the tax haven proceeds generated by the country he accuses of being fascist.

Holy whataboutry Batman. We have in the event of America doing something shitty and their being called out on it Moz has the emergency break out the whataboutry bingo cards Irish Neutrality...that's a BINGO, IRA... that's a BINGO... Irish Tax Haven that's a BINGO.

…..Blob you can’t just research what supports your point. But….hahaha…thanks, you absolutely nailed the response to Trump’s initiative.

LOL should we credit Truman and Johnson for Denmark's apology, the first US President's who wanted to acquire Greenland. You're an idiot Moz and it's not your education, it's your blind adherence to an ideology that's presently lead by an idiot. Trump isn't some deep outside of the box thinker that ruffles people the wrong way with poor manners, he's not some grand strategic visionary who is concerned about long term Artic security or that he alone has considered the potential economic benefits of Greenland's untapped minerals both of which the US can have without sovereignty of Greenland. The man plain and simply has an ego and wants to go down in history as the American President who expanded American's territory. That's it, all vanity and all ego. The majority of the world can see it, its simply Occam's Razor.

Be honest now Stav, how long have I been telling you this?

I dunno what was the day I first posted on this forum?

If you feel Stav has some kind of "superior Irishman" attitude it's probably because your self-esteem has been eroded as Stav smashes your pitiful and infantile little arguments every time you're dumb enough to cross swords with him.

I know that's not what you want to hear, but I couldn't think of a nicer way to explain it to you . . . and I'm quite sure you won't appreciate my setting you straight on certain fundamental truths. That's what I get for being a giving person.

You see he simply can't admit he's wrong, like ever because if he admits to himself he's wrong even just once then he might have to consider he's been wrong more than once, and then if he's been wrong more than once, maybe he might have consider how's he behaved over the years and then those thoughts get very unpleasant and uncomfortable, it's easier just to not go there.

The Gimp arrives supporting his Master

Hates to break it to you Moz, but you're my bitch. I'll let you out of the dungeon when you say the safe word.

Roo, meet you up at the bar for some Whiskey?

The Danes opened an investigation into the issue in 2022. You know who wasn't President of the US back then, Donald Trump.

You don’t say. Trump put Greenland in play, whether the Greenlanders were enthusiastic or not. The natural response for Denmark was to address long standing grievances. They did that in 2022 and again in 2025.

In January 2025 Trump raised it again and seven months later we had this:

Denmark formally apologized to Greenland regarding the forced contraception scandal (IUD campaign) in 2025 on two key dates:

1. August 27, 2025: The Danish government and Greenland's self-government officially issued a press release apologizing for the systemic discrimination and forced contraception of Inuit women and girls between 1965 and 1991.
2. September 24, 2025: Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen delivered an in-person, formal apology at a ceremony in Nuuk, Greenland, directly to victims of the campaign.
3. AP News +3

Context of the 2025 Apology

The apology addressed a "dark chapter" in which thousands of Greenlandic women and girls—some as young as 12—were fitted with intrauterine devices (coils) without their knowledge or consent to reduce the birth rate.….

Can we prove all that pressure had an effect. Of course not the Danes aren’t going to admit that influenced them. But the timing and the pressure very likely played a role…..the apology itself indicates Denmark had a heightened interest in a positive relationship. Why?

Did I mention that fact on its own? No I pointed out along with several other facts,

No but you clearly mentioned owning a company as one fact which should have helped his case…elitism….case closed

Holy whataboutry Batman. We have in the event of America doing something shitty and their being called out

Agreed it’s whataboutism….when you criticize your own country for it’s disgraceful past, you will have earned the right to be outraged by other countries. Read this Board, every South African on here without exception is critical of their own country…learn from them.

You see he simply can't admit he's wrong, like ever because if he admits to himself he's wrong even just once then he might have to consider he's been wrong more than once

Actually I’m perfectly happy to admit I’m wrong….prove it, just once and I’ll admit it.

Roo, meet you up at the bar for some Whiskey?

Touching but the word is Rooi not Roo if you want go local and the bar is 6000 miles away.

meet you up at the bar for some Whiskey?

dats a longtime Irish blessing

"DbD ...fyi.

Voluntary Departure: NZ often encourages overstayers to leave voluntarily, which may avoid the need for detention."

USA does that too...they even offer to pay them an incentive to self deport... millions did.

But what happen to those in NZ who still refuse?

But what happen to those in NZ who still refuse?

they get put on a plane & sent home

& fyi. we've this bit of neighbourliness downunder

AI Overview

"501s" in New Zealand refers to

individuals deported from Australia under Section 501 of the Migration Act, which allows for visa cancellation on "character grounds" (criminal records). Thousands of New Zealand citizens, many with deep ties to Australia, have been returned, creating social, housing, and support challenges.

No but you clearly mentioned owning a company as one fact which should have helped his case…elitism….case closed

Yep, that's the same message that I got...

Taking issue with a longer than normal term of detention for an illegal emigrant after supporting the party that caused mass illegal emigration and is directly responsible for the backlogs and case turn around times.

"I made the fire but why is it burning?"

Next we'll hear "Trump the evil Nazi spent billions on deportation."

Perhaps it's time that you start admitting that you are slaves to your emotions.

About time you started to listen to your missus ... you fool you.

She doesn't like simps, Blo

BP, you , introduced your missss to the MB & revealed her distaste for your hero DJT & I applauded your transparency.

"Roo, meet you up at the bar for some Whiskey?"

I would enjoy that, Stav, although not much of a whiskey drinker.

I'm pretty sure you would be very enjoyable company . . . unlike a self-important and conceited old fool like Moffie. Poor Saffex ended up going for a lunch some years ago at one of Moffie's pretentious clubs that required a jacket, a jacket that Saffex didn't have because Moffie hadn't told him. Moffie spent the next few months having a laugh at Saffex's expense on this board because he didn't bring a jacket for the lunch, while squealing in every post literally for years that he was actually a quarter of an inch taller than Saffex. I'm not making any of this up.

There are many examples of Moffie slipping on a banana "peal" (sic) and then refusing to admit he was wrong . . . when all the evidence to the contrary is plain to see.

That's when he changes tack and tries to pretend his mistake was on purpose and it was a just a "sting" and even though he's the one with egg all over his stupid face, he starts shrieking "game, set and match" or whatever his current juvenile "gotcha" is, while his Servile Gimps gush and applaud and repair his bruised ego.

A truly hilarious example was when he tried to refer to an Oscar Wilde story and came up with "The Picture of 'Florian' Gray" instead of the more universally recognised 'Dorian' Gray.

When I corrected him he unravelled and ran for his "sting" defence which was quite funny as the word "florian" sounds appropriately like someone with a very red face.

LMAO!

You don’t say. Trump put Greenland in play, whether the Greenlanders were enthusiastic or not. The natural response for Denmark was to address long standing grievances. They did that in 2022 and again in 2025.

Trump did no such thing, the investigation was opened because of pressure by justice campaigners.

Can we prove all that pressure had an effect. Of course not the Danes aren’t going to admit that influenced them. But the timing and the pressure very likely played a role…..the apology itself indicates Denmark had a heightened interest in a positive relationship. Why?

The apology came when it did because 2025 was the year their investigation that began in 2022 when Trump wasn't President into the issue concluded. Denmark issued their apology literally on the same day the investigation published its report. It had nothing to do with Trump.

No but you clearly mentioned owning a company as one fact which should have helped his case…elitism….case closed

Now I said the fact that he had a business in addition to no criminal record, being married to a US citizen, having a valid work permit and was in the process of obtaining a green card indicated he didn't need to treated so appallingly. He's not exactly Ted Bundy now is he.

Agreed it’s whataboutism….when you criticize your own country for it’s disgraceful past, you will have earned the right to be outraged by other countries. Read this Board, every South African on here without exception is critical of their own country…learn from them.

Disgraceful past, LOL what about America's disgraceful present. You go to bat for one of the worlds most disgraceful persons on a near daily basis.

Actually I’m perfectly happy to admit I’m wrong….prove it, just once and I’ll admit it.

I literally already have with the Denmark apology point.

Touching but the word is Rooi not Roo if you want go local and the bar is 6000 miles away

Yes the distance needs pointing out to me because I was clearly being serious.

Yep, that's the same message that I got...

Again it's not that. I have no issue with him being detained at least temporarily and the deportation process being started. It's the conditions of his detention I have the issue with. Look I understand prisons and detention centres are not meant to be the Ritz and that overcrowding in prisons is a common thing. I also understand there is huge backlog in the US deportation process so it faces the same issue. I also understand some people detained for deportation are potentially violent or a flight risk and they need to be detained, but I pointing out all the factors around Culleton's life in America indicate he was none of these things.

Taking issue with a longer than normal term of detention for an illegal emigrant after supporting the party that caused mass illegal emigration and is directly responsible for the backlogs and case turn around times.

"I made the fire but why is it burning?"

Did the Democrats make Trump enact his current deportation policies.? There is no doubt a majority of American's wanted a crack down on illegal immigration into the US, but it's also clear that majority view the current crackdown as excessive.

Next we'll hear "Trump the evil Nazi spent billions on deportation."

Emm has he not actually done that?

Perhaps it's time that you start admitting that you are slaves to your emotions

Again pot kettle black.

I'm pretty sure you would be very enjoyable company . . . unlike a self-important and conceited old fool like Moffie. Poor Saffex ended up going for a lunch some years ago at one of Moffie's pretentious clubs that required a jacket, a jacket that Saffex didn't have because Moffie hadn't told him. Moffie spent the next few months having a laugh at Saffex's expense on this board because he didn't bring a jacket for the lunch, while squealing in every post literally for years that he was actually a quarter of an inch taller than Saffex. I'm not making any of this up.

Good Lord.

Again it's not that. I have no issue with him being detained at least temporarily and the deportation process being started. It's the conditions of his detention I have the issue with. Look I understand prisons and detention centres are not meant to be the Ritz and that overcrowding in prisons is a common thing. I also understand there is huge backlog in the US deportation process so it faces the same issue. I also understand some people detained for deportation are potentially violent or a flight risk and they need to be detained, but I pointing out all the factors around Culleton's life in America indicate he was none of these things.

Just giving you my personal and honest assessment of what you wrote.

Clearly I was not the only one who thought that is what you meant, hence why I referenced that specific point in my very first post after you made yours.

Also, I will repeat my previous comment, given how many people are being held or deported, I cannot see how they can treat each one on it's own merit, the numbers are just too big, and he had 19 years to sort his shit out..... but do I believe that specific case warranted that type of treatment.... no I don't...... and do I sympathise with him..... after already being illegal for 19 years... no..... it was 1000% avoidable... all on his part.

Also, I will repeat my previous comment, given how many people are being held or deported, I cannot see how they can treat each one on it's own merit, the numbers are just too big, and he had 19 years to sort his shit out..... but do I believe that specific case warranted that type of treatment.... no I don't...... and do I sympathise with him..... after already being illegal for 19 years... no..... it was 1000% avoidable... all on his part.

Well they already are being processed individually on their own merits. There is legal process to go through for every person who is to be deported. Would it require additional effort and resources to keep track of people who are let out to live at home while the deportation process is run through, undoubtably, would it slow the process down probably, but it would be respectful of human rights. As a society you got to ask is it really beneficial to treat people like this. As I said its clear most American's wanted a tougher stance on immigration, they wanted more illegals removed. However it's clear at this stage that most American's think the current approach is excessive. There needs to be a middle ground.

As a society you got to ask is it really beneficial to treat people like this

No it isn't, I would be the first person to agree with you here, but I can also honestly say that I don't feel much sympathy for people like this .... I don't see much difference between this guy and any other illegal person crossing over the border ....because that person crossing illegally over the border tomorrow could also be non-violent, owning a company, married, needing a better life to feed his 3 kids etc etc etc....... in my mind, there is no difference at all whatsoever between the two...... the only difference is that the one didn't get caught for 19 years, and the other got caught at the border, but I do agree that it could have been handled far better than it was.

ICE have been vindicated on so many other high profile incidents, where the media's perception or misconceptions made them all out to be absolute monsters, when in fact most of them aren't, but as with any institution, you will always have the bad ones.

As I said its clear most American's wanted a tougher stance on immigration, they wanted more illegals removed. However it's clear at this stage that most American's think the current approach is excessive.

I think this was massively exacerbated by the two unnecessary and avoidable deaths which involved ICE, and if that had not happened, I don't think as many would consider it that aggressive .... but who knows.

I literally already have with the Denmark apology point

Nice that you think you have finally won an exchange with the Denmark point. Pity you can’t cite any others.

But sadly no. If you think having the leader of the world’s most consequential country questioning your suitability to be Greenland’s defense partner didn’t have an effect, you’re (sic) naive.

Trump is highly unpredictable and having the Greenlanders fully on your side in any debate would have been a basic survival instinct. Of course that was a consideration when they finally fully apologized for their 19th century behavior in Greenland.

He influenced Denmark just as he influenced the leaders of the theme park to finally act like adults and start taking responsibility for their own defense. You should be thanking him, Europe was on a dangerous course.

A truly hilarious example was when he tried to refer to an Oscar Wilde story and came up with "The Picture of 'Florian' Gray" instead of the more universally recognised 'Dorian' Gray.

Yes that was a superb sting, I remember your spluttering denials when I dropped it on you. But even your reference above is funny. An Oscar Wilde ‘story’….no, it was an Oscar Wilde book dummy, not a short story. And it isn’t ‘the more universally recognized’ ….it is the actual name of the book. Pomposity up in flames….hahaha.

But I still give you the nod for your One Hundred Years of Solitude gaffe. When 80% of the first season had dropped, you had a hissyfit about them cramming 50% of the book into the last few episodes, not realizing there had to be a second season. That’s how well you knew your favorite book of all time.

Nice that you think you have finally won an exchange with the Denmark point. Pity you can’t cite any others.

How about every other discussion we had. Face Masks, Brexit, Climate Change.

But sadly no. If you think having the leader of the world’s most consequential country questioning your suitability to be Greenland’s defense partner didn’t have an effect, you’re (sic) naive.

Yes it had absolutely nothing to do with Trump. What you think the Danish government was going to ignore the findings of a multi year investigation it initiated if Trump wasn't making an idiot of himself on the world stage trying to acquire Greenland.

What has Denmark's ability to defend Greenland got to do with the topic, zero it's unrelated. And there not Greenland's security at present, because Greenland is Danish territory, America is the security partner.

Trump is highly unpredictable and having the Greenlanders fully on your side in any debate would have been a basic survival instinct. Of course that was a consideration when they finally fully apologized for their 19th century behavior in Greenland.

The Greenlanders can't stand the man, Denmark not apologizing would in no way increase Greenlanders desire to join America.

He influenced Denmark just as he influenced the leaders of the theme park to finally act like adults and start taking responsibility for their own defense. You should be thanking him, Europe was on a dangerous course.

Idiot in the American MAGA sphere deigns to lecture European's on a dangerous course when it's an much further down the path itself. America is becoming the danger.

Do you know why Europe sent forces to Greenland recently, Wasn't to counter the non existent threat from Russia an China, it was in case the American tried some Venezuelan style operation. It's not that Europe thinks they could beat America in the stand up fight, but the purpose was to make sure any such operation cost lives on both sides, to ram it home to the American public the consequences of such an operation. Now it never happened and the odds of it happening where low, but this is the shite Europe has to deal with, instead of focusing on Ukraine they have to constantly watch their backs with man baby in the White House.

But hey maybe Mickanger had something with his Roo appellation. ‘Roonek’ …betcha you often roo(sic) these spats. And voila…we have Ruenek. Thanks for that……hahaha, it’s perfect.