Is Russian Orthodox Church the Devil?

Why is the Sky Blue?

Wow ...the biggest liar of them all.
David Silverman applauded Madalyn O'Hair (previous president) through her work in the movement.
She absconded with a fortune of the movements cash.
Her son became a christian and wanted nothing to do with her,so much for any atheist mentioning theft in religion.

"Religious person “Can you tell me what caused the explosion?”

Stav - "We don't have faith the big bang occurred . We have evidence for it."

Lets put it this way.

A passenger airline takes off on a routine flight and is flying over a remote ocean. It disappears from radar and no communications are made. There is no reports of it landing it anywhere.

A search is conducted and eventually a limited amount of debris are found in the ocean which are later confirmed to be from the missing aircraft.

The bulk of the aircraft nor its black box are ever found.

The evidence overwhelming suggests the plane went down into the ocean but their is insufficient evidence to know the cause of why it went down.

Going by your logic just because we don't know the cause of something, means believing the plane went down into the ocean is an act of faith.

a Believer - I dont understand something, so it must be the work of God

a Thinker - We don t know everything yet, but lets try work it out. 

Moonrover you really need to start fact checking, you will swallow any old piece of horse shit. O'Hare her son and granddaughter were kidnapped and murdered and the kidnappers stole the money from the organisation.

The way you lot post blatant lies just to try and justify your beliefs never ceases to amaze me, but I bet you will just ignore the facts as it is something you have to do to justify your beliefs

My goodness but you guys are a bunch of weasels.

"a Believer - I don't understand something, so it must be the work of God

a Thinker - We don't know everything yet, but lets try work it out."

Allow me...

"A believer - I don't understand something, so it must be the work of God

A 'thinker" - I don't understand something but it is NOT the work of God."

An actual logical thinker...

"All of this may or may not be the work of a God. Nobody knows the answer, so the only reasonable approach is to believe that either may be true."

As soon as you say that it IS or ISN't God, without having proof, you fall into the exact same category as far as I am concerned. Both require faith because the evidence is absent.

Stav, here I was, assuming that wouldn't get tripped up on some very basic philosophical concepts. Is that false equivalency really the best you can do? U p your game.

Stav

Go back to 1953 when the Communist Government in  Russia changed the border of the then Ukraine since they could not trust the Ukraine population  and created a so-called Republic consisting of what was originally Ukraine.   In the process areas which was never in the history of Europe even remotely part of Ukraine was incuded in the Ukraine.  .

That created an artificial country with vastly different cultural and historic backgrounds  - whether you like it or not. It is normal for people to ignore facts when it suits them.   When the Soviet Union collapsed  negotiations left the border of Ukraine intact with real guarantees to in the Ukraine constitution to protect the rights of all residents.

The system collapsed in 2014 when the USA caused the coup engineered by the USA.   The Ukraine constitution went through the window and in a desperate effort to save the situation the Minsk Agreement was signed.

The agreement was never implemented and the Ukraine Government went rogue since 2020 ending up in the present one-party dictatorship.

You can slap me in the face - but it is foolish to ignore what really happened in Ukraine over the last 70 years and accept that murder of thousands of Russian speakers by the famous fascist Asov Battalion did not take place.   It is only fools who ignore historic mistakes of the past and repeat them.   Live in fool's paradise without any facts is real BS.  

Ukraine is a center of corruption in Europe and the US leading politicians were up to their necks in fleecing aid money provided by the USA to Ukraine.   Much of the present situation can be traced back to the Democratic Party in the USA and the role they played in ensuring the Minsk agreement is sabotaged.                    

Can't speak for others but I don't BELIEVE there is a God, there is no evidence to substantiate the claims and until there is I will continue to take this stance.

The big bang has a lot of evidence to support it but even in the scientific world it is not taken as gospel, they know they don't know all the details, all they can do is look at the evidence and draw the conclusions from there.

If tomorrow they come out with a new hypothesis  that the evidence points to  something else so be it I am not going to get all butt hurt because of it. Believers will still shit on any idea that comes along.

Seem strange that you lot demand 100% proof for science but happy to take 0% for your god.

But if a scientific evidence even looks like it can be twisted to fit anything in your bible they all leap on it as proof, for some reason that bit is totally accurate but the 99.99999% contradicting your silly beliefs can just be ignored because the scientists got it wrong. Cherry pickers the lot of you

Crusaderfan, all of the USA knows Madeline the evil witch. Few atheists even mention her. Her survivng child William became a Christian evangelist. You don't even know atheism history and you want talk rubbish all day about religion. You're a joke. God is able to make good from all atheist lies and deceit.

William said his mother was an evil person who hired unrepentant criminals to work in her atheist office. She loves killers. Demon possessed atheist  he described her. She cheated children out of their parents inheritance. 

So tell me the history of Atheism then, interested to hear this.

And no I just don't want a list of bad people that were Atheists, I won't to know all the facts you know

You want to know all the facts I know and you want to know of any good atheists. 

Here is the start:-

Psalm 14:1 The fool says in  his heart, “God does not exist.” They are corrupt; they do vile deeds. There is no one who does good.

Ok so some book written by ignorant goat hearders who had a special insight o the truth should be taken  as truth. Just prove your book of nonsense is fact and I will join your team. I am waiting 

Personally I have done  alot less evil deeds than some believers, never killed 11 million people in concentration camps for a start.

Or put hundreds of thousands to death during the inquisition?

I have never murdered any one but the death toll for your religion is beyond comprehension.

Yeah right us unbelievers are the evil ones bwahahahaha

In fact I am unsure if what evil deeds I have actually done, care to provide a list of my deeds to support your statement?

So many on here that know the real truth amazes me. Guess I will just have to accept I am a insignificant. 

life form from you mighty superior beings that know everything

Does it make you feel superior to know everything?

You seem angry...I get it...doesn't make you right...or wrong...if we keep an open mind we might get there...if there is an universal "truth", it's attainable. If you seek the truth, it will be revealed...if there is no "Truth" it doesn't matter anyway...

Not angry at all just confused by so many telling me they know the truth with no shred of evidence to support their claims.

Wish I was one of the chosen ones to know the truth. Not sure why I am left in darkness like all you lucky pricks.

Guess I will have to accept I am 1 of the unfortunate one that has to burn in hell because your God hates me 

Not angry at all just confused by so many telling me they know the truth with no shred of evidence to support their claims.

Wish I was one of the chosen ones to know the truth. Not sure why I am left in darkness like all you lucky pricks.

Guess I will have to accept I am 1 of the unfortunate one that has to burn in hell because your God hates me 

Not angry at all just confused by so many telling me they know the truth with no shred of evidence to support their claims.

Wish I was one of the chosen ones to know the truth. Not sure why I am left in darkness like all you lucky pricks.

Guess I will have to accept I am 1 of the unfortunate one that has to burn in hell because your God hates me 

Not angry at all just confused by so many telling me they know the truth with no shred of evidence to support their claims.

Wish I was one of the chosen ones to know the truth. Not sure why I am left in darkness like all you lucky pricks.

Guess I will have to accept I am 1 of the unfortunate one that has to burn in hell because your God hates me 

Sorry for the multiple posts but what do you expect from us lowly beings that god hates, 

Wish I was one of the chosen few like you lucky pricks, guess I was destined to be tortured forever because I am just a cunt. Lifes a lottery and I drew the short straw I suppose

"Guess I will have to accept I am 1 of the unfortunate one that has to burn in hell because your God hates me "

You are fortunate that God loves all his children,  even those who rejects Him...He hates sin...the thing that gets in between Him and his children....you will have to actively choose hell and reject Him for Him not to save you...and for some odd reason you seem hell bent...

Your god made me this way, I just can't accept the god of the bible, as to me its just beyond belief. If he has condemned me to am eternity of torture what can a low life like me do?

I choose this heaven you speak of (who would choose an eternity of torture over a gold mansion) but I still can't believe that this god of yours exists, it is his decision to send me there as I have no choice in the matter.

Your god is not a nice god as far as I can see if he wants to punish me for the way he made me

Don't any of you find it strange that the likes of Hitler and Dahma can be in heaven while someone like me that tries to be a moral person has to burn for eternity simply because i couldn't believe in something that never showed one sign he exists to me ?

You seem to forget that your religion preaches the only unforgivable sin is  non belief in your god.

You say the Bible was written by ignorant goat herders. How did you draw this conclusion?

Did you read this somewhere? Did you do one minute if research on the garbage you type. Did you apply one ounce of reason to your crazy statement. Is there any truth that you know of because here you have shown total ignorance of a proportion that begs the question... "are you OK?" 

S tav

So historical FACTS are BS - unbelievable!!!

I never said Ukraine do not have the right to have their own country - what I said and explained was that the Communist Regime created artificial borders to ensure they control the Ukraine.    What followed I also explained.  The fact is that a part of Russia was added to Ukraine for political control purposes.  That is factual as well.

The fact is that if Ukraine was not changed by the Communists and got independence on the basis of actual borders - the vast majority of Ukrainians would have a country with natural borders - not one with borders based on political expediency  of the then Communist Party in the USSR,      

Where do you get that tripe from?   It sounds like propaganda - definitely not dealing with factual issues.     

Start off by asking yourself  something factual.   What percentages of the people of Crimea are actually ethnic Russians, how many are   Tartars and how many Ukrainians.    

In terms of the Ukraine Constitution of 1991 - Ukraine had its own Parliament - obviously run by the majority Russian population.  The Coup in Ukraine in 2014 - caused the Russian controlled Crimea Parliament serious problems - since  it cancelled out totally the Ukraine Constitution and especially the special status Crimea had in the Constitution. 

Realizing they were cancelled out and fearing for the safety of the Russian and Tartar population the Crimea Parliament called for a Referendum in the Crimea as to remaining part of  Ukraine or becoming part of Russia.    The referendum results were not to the liking of new Ukraine Government - but reflected the feeling of the voters on the issue.   This was confirmed by opinion polls conducted by pollsters from EU countries and the USA.    Anybody claiming otherwise is talking propaganda BS - not facts.   Secondly fact is the refere ndum was conducted by the Crimea Parliament - not by the Russian Government.       

But then Democracy is not applicable according to reactionaries on both sides of the political spectrum.   Voters have no rights to vote against them or their beliefs - then they become like Biden says "domestic terrorists"  so the human rights of the people of the Crimea has no Democratic rights according to the BS spreaders.   

Try again - the previous time you came up with the Guardian as a reliable source - now you come up with this?    Unbelieuvable!!!!!                             

When a book is full of contradictions, errors and straight up wrong statements about the natural world it was either written by a not very smart god or it was written by people ignorant of the natural world so they just made shit up.

You are asking me if I research anything I type? bwahahaha coming from the idiot that has made  statements of complete BS that I corrected you on and still couldn't man up and admit he was wrong but continue to try and justify your claims just so you can continue in your own ignorance.

And asks if I am OK, think you need to ask yourself that

Yet the very closed minded religious ones keep telling they know because they have a book.

I will reiterate yet again, I have not discounted there being a creator of the universe but I have discounted there being the Christian God.

Science and logic dispell  the possibility of there being your God as described in your book of fables

ButtPlug, ButtPlug...

Many atheists believe in the "possibility" of the God of Spinoza.
That means that they see "God" as a creation of man, but "if" a creator does exist it is nature - not an individual person. It is not a personified God like in many religions. 

So many atheists believe in the possibility that there is no God or Afterlife, or if there is, then it is not anything that we can comprehend. 

They also believe that people who think that their religion is the salvation into heaven, and all others go to hell are simpletons . 

“But ask the beasts, and they will teach you; the birds of the heavens, and they will tell you; or the bushes of the earth, and they will teach you; and the fish of the sea will declare to you. Who among all these does not know that the hand of the Lord has done this? In his hand is the life of every living thing and the breath of all mankind. Does not the ear test words as the palate tastes food?

Job 7v 12-25

Job 7v12-25 =  Ancient Arabic text converted into English.

Verses out of your book of fables is meaningless unless you can show that the Bible is true.

And no you can't use the Bible to prove the Bible. 

Why dont you explain the nonsense in genesis for example but you can't can you. How in this day and age people swallow this shit

Interestingly the Bible was translated OT into Arabic in the 9th C ......mt Sinai Codex.

NT in 1860.