Jislaaik ... you wouldn't want to be a Venezuelan recreational fisherman

batshittery

Murdered in cold blood........I guess the Puppets will have a plausible reason. The King can do no wrong.

There are two survivors from a recent bombing ..... ons wietie watnie

King Don's gone, mentally anyway.

Ja, he's gone alright, in another one of his flip flops he's pulled the rug from under Zelensky's feet. The so-called negotiations in Belgrade is a farce waiting to happen.

Do you really believe the propaganda shit spread by the Guardian and other shit media using a gangster President to feed them with BS, By the way who does fishing in a mini-sub?

Another thing is that over the last 33 years Venezuela had a thriving ecnomy totally destroyed, So from the richest country on the South America Contnent they became the poorest country in South America and you shoud ask what the Nobel Prize winning lady thinks of that lot. The question reamns - who in Venezuela would have a mini sub used for recreational fishing?

Somehow the recreational fishermen were picked up by the US navy - so the real situation will come up in court cases in the USA, So do not rush overboard on this issue. If there are any truth to the story of recreaional fishing it will come out in court cases.

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Denny

"Ja, he's gone alright, in another one of his flip flops he's pulled the rug from under Zelensky's feet. The so-called negotiations in Belgrade is a farce waiting to happen."

Can you provide any proof on those negotiations. Trump will infom the NATO leades on what is going to be discussed and what the outcome of discussions were, He did it in the Hmas case and got support of 50 countries worldwide inclusive of all the major Muslim countries, That put pressure on Hamas to yield to demands.

He will do the exact same in the case of Ukraine - where tarde sanctions is supported by all EU countries - but half of them undermined it - also by the Autopen Adminsitration in the USA, BY forcing NATO countries to increase their defense budgets - as already happened - a United partnership by the USA and NATO membes ill hav some pressure to force Russia to negotiations without getting all hs demands will be on the cards,

Bit then can you lease confirm from what you get that assumption from. As far as I know not even Zelenskyy made a statement on his Friday meeting with Trump and neher did Trump or Putin. The situation was that Rubio went to Budapest to discuss the agenda of the propoed emeting between Trump and Putin and if there were disagreement on discussion points Trump would not meet with Putin.

If you have any insider sources confriming your statement - please provide it to us.

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The Art of the Deal according to Trump is for Ukraine to concede all of its land now occupied by Putin's army. Just hand it over and there'll be peace. On the flip side, Putin, the invader, doesn't make any concessions.

Nice work Donald.

In the meantime, carry on with your farcical meeting in Belgrade, while your puppets dangle in anticipation of a wonderful celebration.

Denny

The Art of the Deal according to Trump is for Ukraine to concede all of its land now occupied by Putin's army. Just hand it over and there'll be peace. On the flip side, Putin, the invader, doesn't make any concessions.

Source Please.

Was the meeting in Belgrade arranged and when was that decided on? Last news was that if there are progress in the meeting between delegations led by Rubio and Lavrov - who lead in negotiations - will neet tomorrow in Budapest a meeting betwen Trump and Putin will take place at a venue to be arranged,

When was it deccided on to held the meeing in Begrade, The Serbs hate the USA after the Obama Adminsitration bombed Belgrade to force the Serbs to wthdraw from Kosovo. in 2012. S ince then the relationship bewen Serbia and Kossovo is still problematic and there are amed clashes between the wo countries from time to time.

Another problem is that the S erbs are in the mein members of the Serbian Orthodox Church which his reigious ties with both the Ukraine Orthodix Church - banned by Zelenskyy - and the Russian Othodox Church, I would rather think from a Ukraine point of view Budapest would be better as a venue. The Serbs are much more Pro-Rusian and will hand to Trump what will be detrimental to the interests of Ukraine - so Budapest with no negative ties agaisnt the USA would be a better city for the meeting between Trump.and Putin.

Just asl Novak Djokovic abu what hus real feelig as to the USA are with regard to tne air bombing of Belgrade and neotiations brerrn snf te EU membeship - bit Serbia has been unable t get membership becuase of conditions laid down by the EU - but the EU wants Ukraine to become a member of the EU wiothout any conditions keeoing sime batic countries out of membeship. That is why I believe Budapest would be a more neutral city as to security and facilities wpuld be ebtter as a venue for the meeting.

So please aso provide the souce as to eh venue and when will be held, Trump cannot leave he USA until Vance - at present involved with Wrkoff and Kushner ensuring that breaches of the eace agreement are reduced drastically and a stabiization force be deplayed in Gaza and an iternal administaton take over the Governance of Gaza - so as to ensure the flow of food and medicine into Gaza can restart and the war damaged buldigs can be rebuild. As far as I know Vanc is still in Kairo makig it lawfully impossibl e for Trump to leave the USA,

So before I can comment on your post - I obviously need more confirmed info from your sources,

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Source Please.

Sure.

I take it you're talking the everyday type straight off the shelf from the local supermarket hey?

Well, I like Chilli Sauce, why, because it's not as boring as Tomato and Barbecue, I could also grunt it up with some freshly picked Chilli which I grow in my garden. Now that might not be to your taste but it is to mine.....sure you've heard the statement, each to his own. I trust I've given you a satisfactory answer.

OBTW Try posting when you're sober, I'm sure to guarantee you a response.

In the meantime there are still civil wars on the go in Sudan and Libya where his allies in the Muslim world will want Trum to help in stopping the Civil wars - starting when Obama was President that needs to end, Another trouble sport where there has spred to Northern Mozambique wher help is provided to the Mozambqye t stop the Civil war started by Somalia started an attrack on villages where Sith Africans were killed - and the Northern Mpzambique area have USA and South African soldiers deployed to prevent expansion of the civil war in the area,

Incdentally the South Africans murdered there were involved in constriction of storage and refinery activiies for gas coming from ne of the biggest gasfiekd discovered - that resulted in the SA Government sending troops to Mozambique on the request of the said Governemnt.

Anither issue is that within the next two weeks a meeting between Trump and Pesident XI is to take place within the next 14 days, ro settle trade and securty issues,

Then there are the case of Vnezuela where he new Nobel Peace Orize recipient and about 300 000 refig ees living in the USA are trying to force Trump to interven and get rid of te cartel-linked Maduro regme mtoed te stae prisons and sent the criminals to the USA when thw Autopen opened the USA border to acriminals from all over the world,

In the meantime there are crisis poinst in other countries which the Uatopen in part caused and Trump inherited from the corrupt Obama and Autopen regmes Trump now must try and resolve, Fact is a hopeless mess at present b the Obama and Autopen regimes Trump must attend to, Example Palistan is bombing Kabul for using Taliban terrorist to operate in Pakistan and a;so wants help to stabilize he situation. Trump demnded that the USA wnts the biggest base in the world the USA wanted back to prevent terrorsust attacks in Pakistan. Porblem is China took over the base when the US Army fled from Afghanistan in disgrace in 2021.

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Dear Denny

So your comments come from hatred of Trump and is real BS spreading?

By the way - I do not drink alcohol beverages and since January 2025 have not spent a cent on buying alcohol at all. I have no idea about being drunk and has other weaknesses like gambling on horses. By the way - the major race in Melborne must be soon - any news on that one.

Apologies.....I should have said "Sweet' Chilli sauce.

LOL

What about the Melbourne Race?

BB

I find out where that Fisherman story originated - t did not start with Senator van Holler and if it did he was probably drunk - that is in his normal state,

It started with the Bolivian President closely link as a gangster with Maduro. The "innocent fisherman" vessel was taken down in international sea and left from the Venezuela coast and was heading to Puerto Rico - from where drugs are smuggled into the USA . The gagster system was making $35 million a week from drugsmugglig into the USA. When closed of the border drugsmuggling came to a dead stop and smugglrs now had to go though Canada - but they then decided to use the Puerto Rico rout into the the USA/

The smugglers use high speed boats and that became too dangerous since the USA used missiles

that kill all the gangsters on Board - so they switched to mini-subs - but the subs has to surface and that is why the sub got hit by a drone.

Let me just add - there are 150 000 people who die as a result of drug usage and abuse - so lets assume you don't mind that those peple died - you rather support gangsters posing as Communist dicatators in who smuggle drugs into the USA. i this caase?

The figures for Fentanyl death PER YEAR IN THE US I have seen is 100,000.

If memory serves me 54,000 died in the Korean war over 4 years.

So anti American, so vile are these pathetic Demonrats that they object to these boats being blown out of the water. They have been reduced to supporting Cartels.

I do wonder if they get a cut from the Cartels. If you are willing to murder an unborn child there is not much you won't do.

Fentanyl comes from Mexico

Bob, are you saying there's no Venezuelan cartels?

And the fentanyl comes from China and is smuggled in through Mexico...amongst others...recreational fishermen my big fat honkie arse.

It is very funny, liberals hate on humanity. What happened to the two wrongs do not make one right thing? The kind of statement that was used when the absence of justice in South Africa that happened when the transition was made. At that time, liberals on this board were quick to throw in the two wrongs do not make one right... How assassinating drug dealers with no trial is a good thing?

Liberals are funny people in the way they rule themselves out of their treatment. White South Africans should be cautious about praising bad people being killed with no trial on the pretext they are bad people. The Apartheid reconciliation stuff exhibited a lot of bad people in South Africa and following this mantra, black skinned South Africans are softies since they did not kill the bad white people.

And the fentanyl comes from China

No. Precursors come from China. This is a whole different story.

The figures for Fentanyl death PER YEAR IN THE US I have seen is 100,000.

If memory serves me 54,000 died in the Korean war over 4 years.

So anti American, so vile are these pathetic Demonrats that they object to these boats being blown out of the water. They have been reduced to supporting Cartels.

As a reminder, this opioid crisis was brought by US companies that severely mismanaged the addiction of their drugs. They created a large population of addicts and left them on the bum. Stated it many times but liberals have this knack at providing criminals with a less bad part as usual. It is funny. The US created a large population of opioid addicts the US abandoned on the streets and the criminal world stepped in to meet the needs of these addicts, which is somehow a good part since without their dose, addicts would have died faster. It is very funny how liberals work.

Another thing is that over the last 33 years Venezuela had a thriving ecnomy and totally destroyed, So from the richest country on the S outh America Contnent they became the poorest country in South America and you shoud ask what the Nobel Prize winning lady thinks of that lot.

Very funny. The amount of fiction liberals place in the daily life is stunning. Maybe drugs addicts are people who could no longer bear the fiction or are unable to produce the fiction.

recreational fishermen my big fat honkie arse.

So a big fat honkie Yes or No.....is Trump justified in bombing and killing the untried?

& does he categorically know whether all crew members are complicit ?

Ja give Batshit a peace prize.

Most fentanyl enters the US via Mexico Almost all (96%) was intercepted at the south-west border with Mexico.1 Aug 2025

How does fentanyl get into the US? - BBC

BBC

https://www.bbc.com › news › articles

"So a big fat honkie Yes or No.....is Trump justified in bombing and killing the untried?"

I'm no expert in international law, but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have advertised it if it was illegal.

Who are that they? If they are the Trump administration, then it is another example how liberals are addicted to submission and keep making outrageous claims in order to gauge the submission they receive in reaction. The Trump administration do not care about international laws. They do not even care about the US laws, which is by the way a liberal regular behaviour.

It is not possible to discuss anything with liberals as they keep seeking submission.

There was a fentanyl factory discovered and closed down in British Colmbia in Canada - so that is where a lot of fentanyl came from even before Trump closed the border with Mexico, So the only way through which that drug can get into the USA is through using boats to smuggle it in. Canada was read the riot act - especialy after the USA informed Canada the factory mentioned and got it closed down resulting Trump read them the riot act..

The only route now open fr drug smuggling into the USA is now by boats and he roue used was through Puerto Rico and from there to the USA. The main entry is by boats carrying illegal migrants into California and that roue has been insected and the mirants arresed by te S A Coast Guard boats despite protests by the California State Governmnt. so te h only laternive is through the Catibbean sea whre teh USA did not waste time and .used missiles to stop teh trade, This time missiles was not wasted and a drone wwas used - not as effective as misiles and far less expensive - but it allowed two surviving "fisherman to escape with their lives and they know they were not fishermen.

B the way the USA knows that based on sattelite photos cocaine farming became the biggest agricultural induustry in Colombia unde the present gangster President so they have been paid incentive to stop that farming in te past - so all Tump did was to stop te subsidy payments so in a visit to the UN teh President was banned from entry into the USA sicne addressing the Hamas rioters he said Trump should be murdered. Tata to the anit-cocaine subsidies paid by the US Government to the Colombian Governments and even he would nto eb allowed intot eh USA in future even for UN meetings.

So shit reigns supreme and drug smugglers are now called fishermen by the rogues in charge in Venezuela and Colombia who claim they are Communists, - but make millions out of drug smuggling. But for that they are heroes on site

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A druggie - they know the risk. Yes they are addicted and yes they need help, but they chose that path.

A patient - they trust their doctors and big pharma to provide them with medication that will NOT ruin their lives.

We should probably start bombing some Big Pharma...

1. 1995–1996 approval & label. OxyContin (extended-release oxycodone) was approved with labeling that said its delayed absorption was “believed to reduce the abuse liability.” The same label said iatrogenic addiction was “very rare.” PMC
2. 2001 correction. As abuse reports mounted, FDA revised the label (July 2001) to strengthen warnings about misuse/addiction and deleted the sentence claiming delayed absorption reduced abuse liability. U.S. Food and Drug Administration+1
3. Marketing vs. reality. Purdue’s sales messaging leaned into the “less addictive/less abuse” story; in 2007 a Purdue affiliate and three executives pled guilty to misbranding OxyContin for, among other things, promoting it as less addictive and less subject to abuse (1996–2001). U.S. Department of War+1
4. Why slow-release didn’t prevent addiction. Extended-release changes how fast the drug is absorbed, but doesn’t remove addiction risk. Users could crush/chew/snort/inject the tablets to defeat the time-release; Purdue’s own testing in 1995 showed ~68% of oxycodone could be extracted when crushed. PMC
5. Regulatory response (2000s–2010s). FDA added/strengthened warnings, issued a warning letter over misleading promotion, and moved toward risk-management and abuse-deterrent standards; Purdue later launched a reformulated, “abuse-deterrent” OxyContin in 2010 (which still carried addiction risks). GAO+2U.S. Food and Drug Administration+2
6. “They knew”? Beyond the 1995 crush-extraction data, prosecutors and later suits laid out evidence that Purdue continued to push high-risk prescribers and downplayed risks; DOJ resolutions in 2007 and 2020 detail misbranding and other misconduct. U.S. Department of War+2vawd.uscourts.gov+2

Bottom line: FDA initially allowed language that implied lower abuse potential for a slow-release pill; that idea proved wrong in the real world, was removed in 2001, and Purdue ultimately pled guilty to misbranding for promoting OxyContin as less addictive. Extended-release never prevented addiction—and Purdue had evidence early on that tampering could defeat the mechanism.

Plum

You are indeed correct. There are many notable cases wher doctors prescribe addictive drugs to people who died as a result - but it is only the tip of an iceberg. Doctors who are accused of providing dangerous and habitfoming drugs should be banned from practicing in countries worldwide,

Seems to me sone cases make some benefit, I know that doctors in Germany prescribe a quarter-tablet exstacy pill per week to elderly people suffering from severe depression - but those people are under strict control and not taking it on their own.

The fact is that the main problem in the USA are manufacring of drugs by Big Pharma that somehow got aproved on Big Pharma and there have also been coruption involved, Many politicians in the USA gets kickbacks from Big Pharma in the form of election contributions and that sould also be stopped. One of those is Pocahontas Warren scream against such practices yet make millions out of it,

The USA tries to compete in the corruption race worldwide and it is one issue hat are only dealt with in drips from time to time. One such example is retired generals getting lobby jobs in Washington. or become politicians as an example. Recent case was a US Vice-admiral who got a $500 000 per.year lobby job after awarding qestionable contracts to a company. He was found quilty of corruption - but he is a one-in-a- thouand case. Milley is gran ted a pardon by the Autopen is another example - but I doubt whether he could be in his lobby job for much longer.

The biggest fields for large-scale corruptions is Big Pharma. the Arms Industry and Medical services. ,

By the way, when good and bad are introduced, it is relatively to liberal tenets. Relatively to liberal tenets, is it good that people are executed without a trial? Remember, peeps, liberals have been claiming they found the best way of governing. And they have made a business of it. They went out and blamed entire societies for not being properly governed through their natural rights theory. A society disregarding human rights was guilty as charged in the liberal books.

And see how liberals operate to cover their backs. As a reminder, if the assassinated people were drug dealers, it would be make the case worse. Assassinating innocent people is bad by liberal tenets but assassinating guilty people is even worse.

I'm no expert in international law, but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have advertised it if it was illegal.

So that's a Yes.

I'm not an 'expert on international law' is cop out. As a Christian do you believe your master is doing the right thing murdering people?

Since when in policing has killing alleged suspects been the option of first resort?

What happened to due process?

Latest strike, off coast of Colombia, killed two people while seven previous attacks in Caribbean killed at least 34

The US military has attacked and destroyed another boat in its ongoing and controversial fight against what it says are drug-trafficking activities.

The strike for the first time was carried out on the Pacific side of South America. Previous attacks have hit seven vessels in the Caribbean and killed at least 32 people.

The latest strike took place off the coast of Colombia and killed two people, according to a person briefed on the operation. It marked a departure from previous strikes, which have occurred off the coast of Venezuela, where the US has deployed an extraordinary military presence.

In a brief video released by US defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, a small boat, half-filled with brown packages, is seen moving along at sea. Several seconds into the video, the boat explodes and is seen floating motionless in flames.

In his post, Hegseth took the unusual step of equating the alleged drug traffickers to the terror group that conducted the attacks on the US on September 11, 2001.

“Just as al-Qaida waged war on our homeland, these cartels are waging war on our border and our people,” Hegseth said, adding that “there will be no refuge or forgiveness – only justice”.

In striking a boat in the Pacific, the administration widened the scope of its campaign, although the reasons for the expansion were not immediately clear. The White House did not respond to a request for comment and Hegseth gave no additional details other than the video on X.

Donald Trump announced what appears to have been the first strike on a boat on 3 September, releasing a brief video of the attack.

Since then, the Trump administration has detailed more strikes without disclosing many details about the targets other than the number of people killed, and the allegation that the boats carried narcotics. The attacks have prompted widespread condemnation, both from civil liberties groups and South American nations.

On Tuesday the Guardian revealed that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) is providing the bulk of the intelligence used to carry out the airstrikes. Experts say the agency’s central role means much of the evidence used to select the targets will almost certainly remain secret.

The president confirmed last Wednesday that he had authorized covert CIA action in Venezuela, but not what the agency would be doing.

White House officials have tried to justify the increasing number of strikes with a dubious legal theory that claims the boats are affiliated with “designated terrorist organizations” with which the US was now in a “non-international armed conflict”, the Guardian has reported.

Until this month, the administration has referred to Tren de Aragua and other cartels as foreign terrorist organizations, or FTOs. Legal experts suggested that simply characterizing drugs cartels as an FTO did not give the administration any additional authority to use lethal force.

White House officials have also sought to justify the strikes internally and externally by claiming Trump was exercising his article two powers, which allow the president to use military force in self-defense in limited engagements.

The self-defense argument revolves around Trump’s designation of Tren de Aragua as a foreign terrorist organization, a claim advanced by Stephen Miller, Trump’s deputy chief of staff, in order to defend the deportations of dozens of Venezuelans earlier this year under the Alien Enemies Act.

The administration claimed that Tren de Aragua had infiltrated the regime of the Venezuelan president, Nicolás Maduro – and so the presence of the cartel’s members in the US amounted to a “predatory incursion” by a foreign nation, allowing for the deportation of any Venezuelan national.

But the administration has yet to provide concrete evidence that Tren de Aragua has become an instrument of the Venezuelan government, and legal experts contacted for this story said the White House could only justify the strikes if it could make that showing.

The strikes on alleged Venezuelan drug boats have largely been overseen by Miller and Tony Salisbury, his top lieutenant at the White House homeland security council (HSC), the Guardian has previously reported.

Miller empowered the HSC earlier this year to become its own entity in Trump’s second term, a notable departure from previous administrations where it was considered part of the national security council and ultimately reported to the national security adviser.

That was the case, for instance, with the second Venezuelan boat hit with hellfire missiles on 15 September. While the White House was informed the Pentagon had identified the boat as a viable target more than four days before, many top White House officials only learned of the impending strike hours before it happened.

Reuters contributed to this report

Anothe Giardian BS story. cameras identifying anything a Governmnt wants to know. They know where the boats from nd evenw hat they are carrying and drig tafficbk is one thing completely covered by sattelites, So the US Government wold know exactly what is on those boats and who is operating the boats,

The probem is the Autopen allowed over 500 000 people with criminal records in their countries of origin,

So enjoy yourself and batshit reign/

" Querida, my precious marido, langosta is muchas bueno, but it can be so dangerous out there, stay home I make enchiladas for you instead."

My header was in jest , but lo & behold .....................

Updated on: October 22, 2025 / 7:16 AM EDT / CBS/AFP

Alejandro Carranza's loved ones say he left home on Colombia's Caribbean coast to fish in open waters. Days later, he was dead — one of at least 32 alleged drug traffickers killed in U.S. military strikes.

From Santa Marta, northern Colombia, Carranza's family is questioning White House claims that he was carrying narcotics aboard a small vessel targeted last month.

For his wife Katerine Hernandez, the 40-year-old was "a good man" devoted to fishing.

"Why did they just take his life like that?" she asked during an interview Monday with AFP.

She denied he had any link to drug trafficking.

"The fishermen have the right to live. Why didn't they just detain them?"

The Trump administration has said the U.S. is in a "non-international armed conflict" with drug cartels, arguing that the narcotics they smuggle kill tens of thousands of Americans every year, constituting an "armed attack."

Since the United States began bombing boats in the Caribbean in September, critics have accused the Trump administration of carrying out extrajudicial executions.

The White House and Pentagon have produced little evidence to back up their claims that those targeted were involved in trafficking.

Colombia's President Gustavo Petro, a critic of the U.S. military presence in the Caribbean, has also claimed Carranza was innocent.

Petro said his crew suffered a mechanical failure at sea.

"The Colombian boat was adrift with a distress signal, its engine raised," Petro wrote Saturday on X. "He had no ties to drug trafficking. His daily activity was fishing."

However, Colombian media have reported that Carranza had a criminal record for stealing weapons in collusion with gangs.

Prosecutors contacted by AFP refused to confirm or deny the reports.

The U.S. government has released statements and images purporting to show strikes on at least seven boats allegedly carrying drugs, leaving at least 32 dead.

"The days went by and he didn't call"

Before his last trip, Carranza told his father he was heading to a spot "with good fish."

Days passed without contact, until the family learned of the bombing on television.

"The days went by and he didn't call," Hernandez said.

Carmela Medina and Alejandro Carranza, parents of Alejandro Carranza, a Colombian man who allegedly died when the U..S bombed a boat supposedly carrying drugs in the Caribbean, pose for a photo at their house in Santa Marta on October 21, 2025. MARCO PERDOMO/AFP via Getty Images

The deadly strikes have sparked a diplomatic row between the United States and Colombia, historically close partners.

Petro condemned the attack as a violation of Colombian sovereignty and labeled it an "assassination." In a post on X, Petro said the U.S. operation was part of a "failed strategy" to "control Latin America ... and obtain cheap oil from Venezuela."

Mr. Trump later called Petro an "illegal drug leader" and threatened to cut off U.S. aid to the South American country.

Last month, Washington announced it had decertified Colombia as an ally in the fight against drugs. Colombia hit back by halting arms purchases from the United States, its biggest military partner.

Friends interviewed by AFP also insisted Carranza was a fisherman.

"He went offshore to catch sierra, tuna, and snapper, which are found far out at this time of year," said Cesar Henriquez, who has known him since childhood.

"He always came back to Santa Marta, secured his boat, and went home. I never knew him to do anything bad," Henriquez told AFP.

A Colombian and an Ecuadoran are the only survivors so far of U.S. attacks in the Caribbean. A U.S. Navy helicopter transported those survivors of the attack from the semi-submersible to a Navy ship, a source familiar with the matter confirmed to CBS News on Friday.

The Colombian, repatriated in serious condition, will face trial as a "criminal" accused of drug trafficking, according to the government.

The Ecuadoran was released after authorities said he had no pending charges. A government official, who asked not to be identified because they were not authorized to speak on the matter, told The Associated Press that the Ecuadorian man, identified as Andrés Fernando Tufiño, was in good health after medical evaluations.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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So that's a Yes.

I'm not an 'expert on international law' is cop out. As a Christian do you believe your master is doing the right thing murdering people?

I don't like it, but it's not murder...where were you when Obama droned US citizens?

"Since when in policing has killing alleged suspects been the option of first resort?

What happened to due process?"

It's not policing, it's war...different rules.

It's not policing, it's Batshit war...different rules.

Stavanger1 Senior player

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Oct 22, 2025, 20:33

Since when in policing has killing alleged suspects been the option of first resort?

What happened to due process?

On what liberals have not yet declared war? Liberals have not declared war on everything yet.

"What happened to due process?"

Due process is for Americans inside the USA...it does not apply to combat situations...military strikes would be governed by the Geneva Convention. I suppose a case could be made that this is stretching the window of application. I'm not sure about the evidence they have to justify their actions, but if they violate the GC, they can be charged with war crimes, so I'm sure these decisions weren't made lightly.