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Jislaaik ... you wouldn't want to be a Venezuelan recreational fisherman

Started by bobbok...55 REPLIES734 VIEWS· 20 Oct 2025, 07:57
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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
23 Oct 2025, 10:07
#41
23 Oct 2025, 10:07#41

Due process only applies to US citizens within the US... It is very funny. Dehumanisation is an integral part of liberalism. No matter what they do, liberals always fall back to dehumanisation. They can not do otherwise.


This period of time confirms even if unneeded the absence of attachment by liberals to the tenets they have kept pushing around.


Due process only applies to US citizens within the US.... Very funny.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
23 Oct 2025, 11:30
#42
23 Oct 2025, 11:30#42

American laws apply to Americans in the USA...other countries have different laws applying to their citizens...different laws apply in different scenarios. It depends on the jurisdiction...ever heard of it?

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
23 Oct 2025, 11:34
#43
23 Oct 2025, 11:34#43

Of course, of course. Just as a check, what nationality are the miltary who blew up the fishermen or something?


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
23 Oct 2025, 14:43
#44
23 Oct 2025, 14:43#44

Well


If you don't think thatn the U SA Givernment does not have spies all over Venezuela and Colombia you must be nuts, hat is how the smuggled the opposition members hiding in the Argentinian Ebassy in Caracas,


Aside from the sattelite spy system they have enough spies - unhappy wth their crooked regimes in Venezuela that would inform US informants on exactly what is carried in the boats leaving Venezuela and when thea re going to departure, In Colombia there was a civil war against Marxists lasting until 2018 and the present preisident was elected because he was going to stop the civil war. He did and the civil war ended and he did what he did npt promise the people of Colombis, Like happened in Venezuela Colombia the President jined the rebels and is now a Marxist dictator oppressing his won people - same as his ally did in Venezuela, Both regimes thrve with gangsersenruching theseves and the gangstr leadders,


Two countries under dictatorial regimes t he poor people of the countries cannot get rid of hat fisherman was identified as a rebel who broke into a police station in Colombia and ended up beingsentenced to 6 years in ail - but released He was pardoned by the present President and if anyone hink he was on a fishing trip - they must also believe the moon is made of green cheese,



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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
24 Oct 2025, 06:55
#45
24 Oct 2025, 06:55#45

So in conclusion it appears from the above that there are two sets of rules.....one from the Christian Bible(God) and the other from Trump. Don't ask me when the one kicks in and the other kicks out but it seems like some on here conveniently swing between the two.


Lekker!

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Oct 2025, 12:11
#46
24 Oct 2025, 12:11#46

So what so wrong of you lot of criminal- lovers on site, The Trump admisnitration did what is internationally accepted and rightfully put the Mexican cartels and similar criminal operators in Venezuela and Colombia on the terrorist list and the gangsters know it. Countries has the right internationally to fight terrorist organizations whereever they operate, The criminals by their trade kills approcximately 150 000 people in the USA and want them treated as ordinary US citizens>


But there is something you should really cry about it is the fact that Trump approved that the Democrat Party terrorist subsidiary be put on the Terrorist list in the USA. That resuted from strings of murders by Antifa - despite despite the claims of the Democrats that there are no such an organization existing in the USA. Arrest of that organization and the Tom Brown Rifle club - the armed wing of Antifa - is going to start soon and the Democrats screaming level will be unlimited but the scum will be wiped out soon.


In that regard you must borne in mind that according to US opinion polls 72% of he voters in the USA condemn condemn poltical violence in the USA - but 16% of the same group of voters said murder of Trump and other political opponents is justified and a further 12% said circumstances leading to vilence should be borne in mind.when political murders take place.


The above articles was confirmed by a scientific study undertaken by an independent organization. So may I take te oppotunity to congratulate you as supporters of terrorism world wide?




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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
24 Oct 2025, 12:17
#47
24 Oct 2025, 12:17#47

Ag man this one has to be an XL......Shitory XL

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
24 Oct 2025, 20:10
#49
24 Oct 2025, 20:10#49

Denny


Th fact is the gangsters has been designated as terrorists and in their case anything thye do to be regaded as to a certai country has the international right them if they hreatrened the country cncerned.


But two of the so-called dead fishermen was not killed and by now nicely stuck in a jail where they ould be until a firing squad fixed the problem.


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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
25 Oct 2025, 00:35
#50
25 Oct 2025, 00:35#50
Parents of fisherman killed in US strike: ‘We need answers from Trump’

Carmela Medina and Alejandro Carranza say will not accept their son is dead until they have proof — even after their government said he had been ‘murdered’

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Diego Andrés Quintero Hurtado, Santa Marta |

Andrea Blanco

, New York

Friday October 24 2025, 6.01pm BST, The Times

Alejandro Carranza, allegedly killed in a US strike

The family of a Colombian fisherman said to have been killed in an American strike in the Caribbean say they have yet to be contacted by the White House and will not accept that he is dead until they see his remains.

Alejandro Carranza’s parents have lived in a state of anxiety since Gustavo Petro, the Colombian president, said on X last week that their son had died in a strike ordered by the Trump administration.

Petro called Carranza, 40, a “humble fisherman” and accused President Trump of murdering him. In response, Trump, who has ordered a number of strikes on alleged drug boats in the Caribbean, said Petro had been an “illegal drug dealer”.

Alejandro Carranza

Trump has justified the military strikes in the Caribbean by saying the targets were boats carrying drugs to the US. Thirty-two people have been killed in the strikes, according to The New York Times. Critics have accused the Trump administration of carrying out extrajudicial executions.

In Los Cardonales de Gaira, a village near the city of Santa Marta in northern Colombia, Carranza’s family members insisted he was innocent and said they were still holding out hope he was alive.

“[Alejandro] is such a good son. I want answers. He’s been missing for a month already,” Carranza’s mother, Carmela Medina, told The Times from her home. “I want to know where he is. Everybody believes he is dead, but I have a feeling he is alive. A mother’s heart knows.”

Gustavo Petro condemned the attack as a violation of Colombian sovereignty and called it an “assassination”

Carranza was last seen on Sunday, September 14, when he told his mother he planned to go fishing. He often spent days at sea, so the family did not find it unusual when he did not immediately return.

Lizbeth Perez, Carranza’s niece, said: “At the moment, we don’t believe he was the one killed because we haven’t received any proof. The government hasn’t contacted us. We haven’t heard from authorities whether they’ve found a body or not. We won’t believe he is dead until we have proof. If he’s dead, we want them to give us a body.”

Colombian media has reported that Carranza was charged in 2016 with stealing weapons. It has also been reported by local outlets that he committed crimes under the alias “Coroncoro”. His family say the alias was a nickname Carranza was given as a child, in reference to a tropical fish.

Carmela Medina believes her son, the family’s breadwinner, may still be alive

MARCO PERDOMO/AFP/GETTY IMAGES

“He’s a kind, loving person, and the media has tarnished his reputation,” Perez said. “All the reports about him being a criminal are false. He is no drug dealer and we want the world to know that.”

Perez said Carranza had learnt the fishing trade from his father, adding that the family were struggling financially because he had been their main source of income.

US strike on drug-trafficking speedboat ‘may be first of many’

A wooden table in the family’s backyard where Medina scaled the fish her son brought home now lies empty. Perez said: “We’re missing the fish. He brought food to the table. We are overwhelmed by the amount of media that has come here and then reports wrong things about my uncle.”

Carranza’s name made headlines after Petro shared news of his alleged death and demanded answers from the US government on X. “The Colombian boat was drifting and had a distress signal on because one engine was raised,” Petro wrote.

Alejandro Carranza Sr

MARCO PERDOMO/AFP/GETTY IMAGES

Trump snapped back by threatening tariffs and subsidy cuts, which diplomatic experts have said would be disastrous for many industries in Colombia. Petro dismissed the threat of tariffs as “nothing” but said that military aid cuts would cause problems.

Last month, the US decertified Colombia as a drug control partner, accusing the Petro administration of doing too little to curb drug production. On Thursday, Trump called Petro a thug and Colombia a “drug den run by cartels”.

Meanwhile, Carranza’s family say they want answers either from the White House or Petro. “We are tired of speaking out,” Perez said. “We just want to hear from the government.”

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Oct 2025, 03:22
#51
25 Oct 2025, 03:22#51

An apology for ferrying drugs illegally to the USA - what cheek,


Do you love criminals so much that you always take their side? SIES


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
25 Oct 2025, 08:03
#52
25 Oct 2025, 08:03#52

Alejandro Carranza, allegedly killed in a US strike


Most probably propaganda...killed by Maduro to generate sympathy...the boats droned were not fishing boats.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Oct 2025, 10:20
#53
25 Oct 2025, 10:20#53

Draad


Don't bother - the Batashit brains on site will always beleieve anti-Trump propaganda and believe all t e propaganda BS they are fed.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
25 Oct 2025, 10:45
#54
25 Oct 2025, 10:45#54

The criminals by their trade kills approcximately 150 000 people in the USA and want them treated as ordinary US citizens>


The story liberals are willing to deliver. It shows by the way that liberal societies can not teach themselves.


The way US citizens are treated has little to do with them being US citizens and all to do with them being human beings. The liberal political principles were designed before the US came to existence. It went far as it stated that societies must organise in order to enforce the said liberal principles (since all human societies are composed with human beings) and commonly, the US refer to themselves as a unique experiment as they would be the only country in history specifically established to enforce the said principles.



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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
25 Oct 2025, 10:54
#55
25 Oct 2025, 10:54#55

Fisherman, lol!


Liberals work in due. The introduction of the non guilty thing is a trick to divert from the very fact if ever any of the assassinated people could have been sentenced, it would make the things worse.


Killing a person who should not have been tried in the first place is very different from killing a person who should have been tried. It is once again deflection in action and deflection is what liberals do.


No tyranny in the world have even tried all of their population. Liberal societies and tyrannies have in common a segment of population that never faces an institution of justice. The assessment of the value of a tyranny compared to a liberal society can not be achieved through that segment of population.


On the opposite, the difference is established when considering the segment of population that is likely to be subjected to the institution of justice.


Criminals sit in the front row when it comes to this topic.


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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
25 Oct 2025, 11:03
#56
25 Oct 2025, 11:03#56

Do you love criminals so much that you always take their side? SIES



Will try to find time to write a piece about that because an element that told that the democratic party would explode.


It is not about loving criminals. Criminals are a special position. They are the ultimate test to check the validity of liberal claims about their liberal principles.


Refusing due process was qualified by liberals themselves as a hallmark of tyranny in times when liberals were used to saying that fighting tyranny in government is the word of god.


It is big. As so far, no liberal despite their wish for it has ever managed to prove that criminals are not human beings, any time criminals are subjected to tyranny, any time they fight against it, they do the word of god. And leaving the criminals the monopoly of that fight is something that liberals can not afford yet. Criminals can not be the only ones doing the word of god. Liberals must do it to keep the face.

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