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Joe Biden running for president in 2020

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DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
25 Apr 2019, 13:00
#1
25 Apr 2019, 13:00#1

Well Well Well


One president says grab her by the P*#*#*


Then, here we have a presidential hopeful who has been accused by multiple various women of constantly invading people's spaces...… but only women, not men..... and apparently, he really does get close....


Here's the article about Biden running for president


Joe Biden

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
25 Apr 2019, 13:27
#2
25 Apr 2019, 13:27#2
Hahaha. Joe Biden creates an excellent opportunity to fully opening up the Ukraine can of worms. Would be hilarious to see the Dems scrambling to get away from that.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Apr 2019, 13:37
#3
25 Apr 2019, 13:37#3

DA

I think he has some very severe baggage that would cause problems for him in the Democratic Party primaries.   His son apparently has financial interests in the Ukraine and recent newspaper reports link the Ukraine to in the 2016 presidential race.  

Biden is a weak leader with very little principles when it comes to policy principles.   He is like a tree in strong wind - will bent to anything that he thinks will benefit himself in politics.   

Looking at the list of potential candidates it is clear that Trump will have enough on him to knock him out in a general election.   

Maybe he will have the support that will end up him being the DP candidate standing against Trump in 2020 election - but has my doubts that he would win in the primaries and should he do so - in the election.             

DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
25 Apr 2019, 14:34
#4
25 Apr 2019, 14:34#4

Mike, I am also very curious as to where Biden would be getting the funding for this...….

Clearly someone believes he has a chance, and unlike Trump, who does not need to heel to anyone in the way he acts or behaves, because he can fund his own campaign on his own...…... Biden may not be able to do that, and might become someone's puppet

One thing is for damn sure, Trump's team are already digging for dirt...……...  and I seriously doubt there is any other dirt that Biden can dig up about Trump that has not already been uncovered


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
25 Apr 2019, 15:07
#5
25 Apr 2019, 15:07#5
And Obama refuses to endorse the man who helped him get elected and stood by his side for eight years.
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
25 Apr 2019, 15:14
#6
25 Apr 2019, 15:14#6
Bozo responds to this news on Twitter in his usual classy, mature and presidential manner:
Donald J. Trump
Verified account @realDonaldTrump
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Welcome to the race Sleepy Joe. I only hope you have the intelligence, long in doubt, to wage a successful primary campaign. It will be nasty - you will be dealing with people who truly have some very sick & demented ideas. But if you make it, I will see you at the Starting Gate!

5:22 AM - 25 Apr 20199,406 replies7,328 retweets31,304 likesReply 9.4K Retweet 7.3K Like 31K Direct message
What a truly pathetic little human being Bozo is. It really is an indictment of the American people that a classless, self-serving, childish and incompetent fool like Bozo can not only be elected in the first place, but actually be a candidate for a second term.
Lots of very stupid people in America . . . and on this forum!
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Apr 2019, 15:15
#7
25 Apr 2019, 15:15#7

It would not be necessary to dig for dirt against Biden - they have enough on the hundred or so DP House of Representatives who are openly Social Democrats - ie closet Communists.   Even if Biden runs he will be a prisoner of the Democratic Socialist s and  that could lose circa 20% support from the  more conservative Democrats.   

Be it as it may - the Democrats have spent to much time going for Trump.   He is not really in any trouble in that regard,    In the 2016 election the Democrats used the following arguments against Trump:-

*    His inexperience and he would cause havoc in both foreign affairs with foreign wars

*    His racism against African-Americans

*    His attacks on Latino's with his wall and extradiction of illegal migrants

*    His treatment of females.

None of the above actually happened and as a matter of fact most of what he did was more positive for the economy and growth in employment opportunities,   He tried to negotiate - even with North  Korea and is clearly interested in building up the US army - but not interested in foreign military involvement.    He is building the wall and the ordinary citizens are clearly not opposed to that idea.   For the rest  he has done more positive things than negative things.

I think the Democrats have used up all the ammunition that could help them to get rid of Trump.   The 2016 election showed them that they cannot beat him at the polls and they have no real strategy they can use to get him out of the way.     So their main weapon was character assassination and that did not work up to date.   

There is nothing really that the DP can do about the present situation.   They cannot  suggest alternative policies and  what the Democratic Socialists comes up with would cost the Democratic Party dearly.    

The election is just over 18 months away and the primaries is just about 8 months away.   I do not think there would be a Republican candidate that would try and win the Republican Primaries and he will have lots of time to go to the present and new battle ground states to campaign - while the Democrats try and get a candidate.    

There are in fact  three Republicans who would try to be the Republic Party nominations in 2024  and those are Governor DeSantis and  Senators  Rubio and Cruz.   Personally I think DeSantis -only 40 years old with an approval rating of 67% in Florida - would be the frontrunner.   Another 39 year old Senator -  Joss Hawley from Misssouri - can also go forward in 2024 as a candidate,            

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
25 Apr 2019, 15:20
#8
25 Apr 2019, 15:20#8

Joe Biden's dilemmas:

How I got this:

I was reading one of Podesta's emails on WikiLeaks. Do a search for Hunter Biden and it will lead you to a reference to an article in the NYT (New York Times).

These are extracts from the article

"WASHINGTON — When Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. traveled to Kiev , Ukraine, on Sunday for a series of meetings with the country’s leaders, one of the issues on his agenda was to encourage a more aggressive fight against Ukraine’s rampant corruption and stronger efforts to rein in the power of its oligarchs.


But the credibility of the vice president’s anticorruption message may have been undermined by the association of his son, Hunter Biden, with one of Ukraine’s largest natural gas companies, Burisma Holdings, and with its owner, Mykola Zlochevsky, who was Ukraine’s ecology minister under former President Viktor F. Yanukovych before he was forced into exile."

What has Hunter Biden got to do with it?

"Hunter Biden, 45, a former Washington lobbyist, joined the Burisma board in April 2014. That month, as part of an investigation into money laundering, British officials froze London bank accounts containing $23 million that allegedly belonged to Mr. Zlochevsky."

But then, what happened to the money?

"But after Ukrainian prosecutors refused to provide documents needed in the investigation, a British court in January ordered the Serious Fraud Office to unfreeze the assets. "

After the money was "unfrozen", it was moved to Cyprus.

But someone in Ukraine was not happy about the chain of events and kept on digging into the Burisma affair. But then something happened to him. "What happened to him?" you may ask. Joe Biden happened to him:

Joe Biden's 2020 Ukrainian nightmare: A closed probe is revived-(John Sullivan, The Hill)

"Two years after leaving office, Joe Biden couldn’t resist the temptation last year to brag to an audience of foreign policy specialists about the time as vice president that he strong-armed Ukraine into firing its top prosecutor.

In his own words, with video cameras rolling, Biden described how he threatened Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in March 2016 that the Obama administration would pull $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, sending the former Soviet republic toward insolvency, if it didn’t immediately fire Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin."

and...

"“I said, ‘You’re not getting the billion.’ I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: ‘I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,’” Biden recalled telling Poroshenko.

“Well, son of a bitch, he got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time,” Biden told the Council on Foreign Relations event, insisting that President Obama was in on the threat."

and....

"But Ukrainian officials tell me there was one crucial piece of information that Biden must have known but didn’t mention to his audience: The prosecutor he got fired was leading a wide-ranging corruption probe into the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings that employed Biden’s younger son, Hunter, as a board member.

U.S. banking records show Hunter Biden’s American-based firm, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, received regular transfers into one of its accounts — usually more than $166,000 a month — from Burisma from spring 2014 through fall 2015, during a period when Vice President Biden was the main U.S. official dealing with Ukraine and its tense relations with Russia.

The general prosecutor’s official file for the Burisma probe — shared with me by senior Ukrainian officials — shows prosecutors identified Hunter Biden, business partner Devon Archer and their firm, Rosemont Seneca, as potential recipients of money."

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Apr 2019, 15:35
#9
25 Apr 2019, 15:35#9

I saw somewhere an article about an Ukrainian Prosecutor could not understand  why  the US Government is not interested  in investigating Ukrainian meddling in the  2016 IS presidential election.   If  Biden is standing the dirt on that one will be dug up quickly - especially since Ukraine has elected a new President who wants to clean up bribery and corruption in Ukraine.

It could actually come out that both Obama and   Biden were involved in bribery and corruption in Ukraine and that would cause havoc for the DP.         

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Apr 2019, 15:35
#10
25 Apr 2019, 15:35#10

I saw somewhere an article about an Ukrainian Prosecutor could not understand  why  the US Government is not interested  in investigating Ukrainian meddling in the  2016 IS presidential election.   If  Biden is standing the dirt on that one will be dug up quickly - especially since Ukraine has elected a new President who wants to clean up bribery and corruption in Ukraine.

It could actually come out that both Obama and   Biden were involved in bribery and corruption in Ukraine and that would cause havoc for the DP.         

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
25 Apr 2019, 15:47
#11
25 Apr 2019, 15:47#11

"If  Biden is standing the dirt on that one will be dug up quickly - especially since Ukraine has elected a new President who wants to clean up bribery and corruption in Ukraine."

The dirt has already been dug up. It is out in the open and waiting to be used. Wait and see. Remember that Biden, himself, bragged how he had the previous prosecutor fired. 

These are his own words directly from his mouth on stage at the Council on Foreign Relations:

"And I was supposed to announce that there was another billion-dollar loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Poroshenko and from Yatsenyuk that they would take action against the state prosecutor. And they didn’t.

So they said they had—they were walking out to a press conference. I said, nah, I’m not going to—or, we’re not going to give you the billion dollars. They said, you have no authority. You’re not the president. The president said—I said, call him. (Laughter.) I said, I’m telling you, you’re not getting the billion dollars. I said, you’re not getting the billion. I’m going to be leaving here in, I think it was about six hours. I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money. Well, son of a bitch. (Laughter.) He got fired. And they put in place someone who was solid at the time."


CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
25 Apr 2019, 16:15
#12
25 Apr 2019, 16:15#12

And on a lighter note:


DA
Devil's AdvocatePro7,008 posts
25 Apr 2019, 16:17
#13
25 Apr 2019, 16:17#13

Surely Biden and all his current advisors must know what potential damage there is out there that can directly be attributed back to him and his son

At 77 years of age, why would he want to risk being mauled in the upcoming debates and in the media

One thing I do know, he has desperately tried twice already to be president of the USA, so there has to be  something behind this determination...….

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
25 Apr 2019, 17:24
#14
25 Apr 2019, 17:24#14

DA, I wonder if the Dems have not so ran out of ideas and leadership that they are now throwing everything, including the kitchen sink, at the right. I think that they are probably hoping that the average American do not find out what they have been doing for the last 10 years. 

If I was a Dem supporting American right now, I would have been very concerned about my party and the direction they are trying to pull in.

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Apr 2019, 19:06
#15
25 Apr 2019, 19:06#15

Trump will make Biden look like the incompetent fool he is. 

Poor rooijackaSS is now suffering from advanced TDS. 

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
25 Apr 2019, 19:09
#16
25 Apr 2019, 19:09#16

Ceradyne

One of the biggest problems with democracy is that politicians promise the voters the world at election time  and when they get elected they continue with  the normal way of making sure that nothing they promised is in fact implemented,    In many ways what they do is to put in place arrangements that would benefit their sponsors, friends and family members.

This was the case ever since Reagan retired in 1988 and his successors were all the same and even though the Bushes was very rich already when they were Presidents, Clinton and Obama were not.  But both Clinton and Obama today are very rich and one wonders where the money came from.

The normal way was suddenly stopped when Trump turned up - a billionaire himself he had no reason to continue in the old way of politicians in Washington.   Cruz went to see him after he was elected and came out from a meeting saying that Trump  is determined to implement what he promised the voters.   That sent the Democrats and some Republicans into a tail spin and what they wanted to continue was suddenly in jeopardy.  

We now have the case where the Democrats has to develop counter policies to sell to the voters -  not that they would implement the policies when elected,    The Democrats wanted to get rid of Trump before too much damage was done - but they failed in their efforts and Trump is continuing on his merry way,   That explains the -

*    conduct of the Democrats over the past 30 months; and

*    emergence of Democratic Socialists who believe there promises would attract the voters to the Party.

They are now promising the voters everything would be free and to pay they would have exorbitant tax rates on the wealthy that would pay for everything.    But what would happen if the rich take their money elsewhere and agriculture and industry collapse as a result of the 90% tax they want to implement on businesses?   They are stupid to think they would succeed where socialist governments  worldwide have failed.

In the end they have as yet no realistic policies and since they have lost direction totally they are on the same way as socialist and communist governments worldwide has gone - near to total demise as a political party.             

  

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
25 Apr 2019, 19:45
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25 Apr 2019, 19:45#17
I have just started reading Andrew Breitbart’s book Reighteous Indignation. The book was finished before his death and was ready for trade and he launched it literally days before his death in 2012. The first chapter handles his role in the uncovering of the ACORN scandal. ACORN was about the Dems’ voter fraud. The left hated Breitbart and they branded him as a lunatic alt-right lunatic but he was far from that. He was just a liberal turned conservative who declared war on the main stream media and helped uncover their agenda and their part in the deep state. He also played a major role in bringing down Anthony Wiener. His bringing down of Anthony Wiener resulted in Wiener’s laptop being confiscated and that, in turn, was tragic for Hillary Clinton. Wiener was the husband of Clinton aide, Uma Abedeen. When they took Wiener’s laptop, they discovered a large number of Hillary’s “missing” emails that they were searching for following the Benghazi hearings. It is amazing to see what it looks like when you start putting together the pieces of this massive puzzle. Bear in mind that it has just been uncovered that a large number of the most incriminating of Hillary’s emails were found in Obama’s White House, proving that he was covering up Hillary’s shit.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
25 Apr 2019, 21:32
#18
25 Apr 2019, 21:32#18

Yes you are spot on Windomp. 

Joe Di Genova said on Laura Ingraham that these guys involved in the coup, Clinton etc are in huge trouble. He reckons indictments will start in about a months time. 

This is going to be devastating. 

Andrew Breitbart was a patriot. Today Breitbart News carries on the good work.

By the time you have looked at Breitbart News, Gateway Pundit, Daily Caller, Citizen Free Press and Whatfinger you will have picked up a lot of the news. Add in You Tube Clips by Tucker Carlson, Lou Dobbs, Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham and you are off to a good start. Judge Pirrows show Justice is great as well. Dr Turley and Bill Still do great work as does The Next News. 

The American Thinker is interesting and as you travel along you find a huge number of great sites ripping the globalists apart.

Could go on and on. 

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
26 Apr 2019, 11:35
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26 Apr 2019, 11:35#19

"Joe Di Genova said on Laura Ingraham that these guys involved in the coup, Clinton etc are in huge trouble. He reckons indictments will start in about a months time. "

He was probably talking about the IG report coming out soon.


Meanwhile......... we can have some fun with S low Joe


CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
26 Apr 2019, 16:27
#20
26 Apr 2019, 16:27#20

@Mike and Devils Advocate,

Remember when I said that the shyte on Biden was already out....?


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
27 Apr 2019, 11:01
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27 Apr 2019, 11:01#21

I think that the Democrats in Congress are divided as follows:-

*      40%  are Democratic Socialists cum Communists

*      40%  are Liberals

*      20%  will go with either of the factions they think will get the upper hand.

The leadership of the factions are  as follows:-

*      Democratic Socialists  cum Communists  -    Sanders, Warden

*      Liberals   -   Biden and three other Senators

*      Clueless 20%  -  Pelosi,  Waters

How that lot will ever work together in getting a saleable policy beats most people.   The Democratic Socialists are  hell-bent to replace the present capitalist-socialist recipe with a purely socialists one - following the example of the Communists regimes in Europe, Cuba and Venezuela.

Socialists are never champions of democracy - since they try and preserve their ideology even when the populations turn against them.  Dangerous people when it comes to politics, wars, etc.   They preach peace - but only when it serves their narrow political interests.  The shenanigans  of the Obama Administration using non-constitutional and patently illegal  means to undermine the election process will be mild compared what that lot will come up with, 

The fact is there is no purely socialist  country on earth at present.   Even in China economic improvement  only started when Maoism got kicked out and elements of capitalism incorporated in the Government policy.   What the Democratic Socialist wants to implement is total lunacy.              

      

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
27 Apr 2019, 11:53
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27 Apr 2019, 11:53#22

Yes Maaik', Obama might have to go through the humiliation of being pardoned by Trump.

CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
22 May 2019, 13:05
#23
22 May 2019, 13:05#23

Also check after the ad at around 6:00 min in as well.


CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
22 May 2019, 13:45
#24
22 May 2019, 13:45#24

Ceradyne

There are a string of problems coming out of the various investigations and  I think Biden - a man who change his talk according to what suits him at present and with NO principles  at all - is now stating he wants to run for President,

There is a string of investigations that indicate potential illegal conduct that could finger Biden as an accomplice.   The Ukrainian issue is just one - but Biden's son also works for the Chinese Government and that is not at present being used against Biden,   

Be it as t may Biden has a string of skeletons in the cupboard and all will come out after the  Democrat nomination congress.   In the meantime he can stay in the clear and out of jail by running for president and claiming that his legal problems is a election strategy of the Republicans,                                           

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
22 May 2019, 15:00
#25
22 May 2019, 15:00#25

Hunter Biden got 1.6 billion from the Chinese placed into a hedge fund he runs.

Sleepy creepy Joe says the Chinese are no threat to America!

Biden made a big mistake in deciding to run as all these things are coming out and could lead to jail time. 

 I see John Solomon says Trump will start declassify 7 to 8 days time. That will be devastating to the crumbling demonrats. 

Another huge blow to the globalist is going to land with the EU elections tomorrow. 

I see that dumbass rooijackass has run away from the thread tail between legs. 

The mampara says orange man is bad grunt, grunt. Says Trump is self serving. Trump gave up a much more pleasant lifestyle to save America. Heck he donates his salary. As usual rooitwit shows himself to be a hopeless dupe of globalist propaganda. Will he ever break free!


CE
CeradynePro9,374 posts
16 Jun 2019, 00:05
#26
16 Jun 2019, 00:05#26


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MozartCaptain49,914 posts
16 Jun 2019, 04:51
#27
16 Jun 2019, 04:51#27
Apart from all his baggage Biden has no ideas. He is the classical empty politician doing whatever it takes. Best case in a Biden presidency is complete paralysis. Worst case is he seizes on some destructive idea he thinks will make him popular.
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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
16 Jun 2019, 11:05
#28
16 Jun 2019, 11:05#28

Right now Trump is heading for an even bigger victory. 

Seems like we have shut up that buffoon rooijackass for now. Hahahaha he must be, along with sharktwit, the most ignorant gullible twits ever. Hahahaha very funny these two clowns. 

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CeradynePro9,374 posts
28 Jan 2020, 18:54
#29
28 Jan 2020, 18:54#29

Remember when I said the following in April on this very same thread?:

"Ceradyne

Hall Of Fame

8400 posts

Apr 25, 2019, 13:27

Hahaha. Joe Biden creates an excellent opportunity to fully opening up the Ukraine can of worms. Would be hilarious to see the Dems scrambling to get away from that."

Now check this clip from Ted Cruz' podcast during the impeachment trial:


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