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Jon Stewart on Trump’s “Victimless” Fraud & Jordan Klepper on Trump's Bible Grift | The Daily Show
... yess, I listened to it, and I'm sad to say that Jon has become a puppet of the establishment...still funny though.
BB
Sad to say what Stewart said is of zero substance - may sound funny - but it still is BS .
* First of all Trump was nt charged with tax evasion.
* Secondly - Councils appointed experts t value properties for tax purposes - not the owners o properties;
Most thinking people knows the real truth about property evaluations though. Did you do your own evaluation on the home you live in? What owners can do is to objet against valuations and Council consider changes based on proven over-valuation. So what Stewart said is wiose than lying it really be regarded as lible and can lead to claims based on BS .
Bollocks to your shitorical interpretations ................ the clips are the truth, the whole truth & nothing but the truth .
As Mitch Mac said, ffs. 'the man's a property developer' .
I ask you a civil question and you did not respond. Do you do the valuation of your property when it comes to rates charged for your home do you the valuation of yourself? Simple answer really?
On getting the answer to that one I will respond to the issue further.
There's nothing to debate .............. found guilty for civil fraud. End of, finish & klaar.
ouMaaik, its common knowledge, your two political heroes, Tromp & Putin are beyond criticism.
Flawless diamonds ............................... the gangster & the real estate/ tv host.
Evil pair of narcissists.
I ask you a civil question and you did not respond.
Pot....kettle ....black
That decision will be appealed and will not succeed because it was based on BS.made up by James in consultation with the WH. and she and her office will face major cost charges and compensation by Trump. I guess that would run into $800 million paid to Trump.
It is indeed a pity that the WH chose that illegal way to cause interference in the way to try to undermine the Trump election campaign and in teh end th e public will pay for the damge thy caused.
In the end there was nobody defrauded and that shows how desperate the BS really is. Tell me who got frauded and who lost money in the process, It was not the bank and the story about tax is plain and simply BS - that was the reason why Trump was not charged with Tax evasion and simple idiots will believe the BS.
Denny who do the valuation of the House you live in - do you do it or the City Council of Sydney decides on it. I will tell you a story based on f acts. The Municipality valued my House in Tinley Manor beach being R2.3 million. After doing a detailed report submitted to Municipality - they referred it to their Consulting valuers and after inspection of the property they reported to Council a variation to my appeal and the property was valued at R1,8 million. I actually sold the house or R1,7 million - reflecting the real value.
That is he process worldwide - Municipal authorities appoint consultants to value properties for rating purposes and the owners can lodge applications for review - and that is the only thing Trump and his companies can do about evaluations.
Trump has never been charged with Tax Evasion by anybody and the comments of Stewart is total BS based on lies. The fact is the charges were fake and Stewart had to find some excuse to prove anything - so he veered into tax evasion - for which Trump was never charged. Beware of brainwashing - it left people like you and BB to fall for it without really thinking on the value of the BS Stewart spread in this case. He si likely to face a libel charge on that one anyway and that could cost the broadcasters at least $1 billion. The only liar in this is Stewart - so live with it. . .
BB and Denny
Watch the following video about the issue and get a legal opinion for free on the issue.
Trump is NOT selling the Bibles for his financial gain. He is just support the bible sales and he does not sell it himself for profit.
The profane conduct of the USA media is sickening and that is destroying the USA. People can buy the bibles from distributors and that is the end of it. The Democrats have no counter since their whole campaign is based on lies. .
LOL, s hall we look at what actual legal experts had to say on the matter.
https://www.newsweek.com/why-jon-stewart-home-overvaluation-different-donald-trump-1884757
How are Trump and Stewart's situations the same?
Trump has been found guilty of fraud. You have just made up a hypothetical scenario where Stewart's has a committed a crime.
None of this is very difficult to understand...unless you suffer from TDS, plantation syndrome, or live on a muddy island where the most interesting thing to do is to go to sleep.
What's difficult to understand is you don't seem to grasp the concept of something called evidence.
"Trump has been found guilty of fraud. You have just made up a hypothetical scenario where Stewart's has a committed a crime."
Have I?
Or did i simply state the following...
"How are Trump and Stewart's situations the same?
In both instances the bank provides a loan for an asset that has been overvalued. Thus the amount of money the bank provides to the borrower does not match up to the real value of the asset."
I then pointed out what could happen in Stewart's case and why it is illegal to overvalue property beyond reason.
But go on, I'm all ears...school me on how overvaluation of property is actually legal.
Talk me through how misrepresentation, loan fraud, market distortion, tax irregularities and insurance fraud aren't all consequences of overvaluation.
My Spidey sense is telling me to look out for a massive copy and paste form Star in my not-too-distant future,
Stav
There were zero evidence and the case that somebody was defrauded will not get past appeal to the Federal Court. Fraud entails somebody losing money and the Bank who was "defraudxed was the main defense witness in the case and they - \
* was saying that if Trump applied for a loan higher than he did apply for - they would have given him the higher loan than applied for;
* they were repaid in full amount of the loan and the interest; and
* the Trump companies are their favored customers and has been for years and i he applies for a future loan on any project they would supply it based on the business plan submitted.
Nobody lost money and the deathly argument is that James was in contact regularly with the WH about the issue.- so Trump will sue the BSters for plenty of money in compensation and idiots like Stewart for libel. Trump just increased his holdings values to over $6 Billions and the fact is the rest of the BSters - Biden included will - lose much of their looted gains.as a result of fake charges against Trump. The Georgia charges are going nowhere and the Smith charges are not going anywhere either. In all the charges their was collusion between the WH, the Justice Department and the FBI and that is going to cost them plenty in future - andx plenty evidence that the charges was a political attack on Trump which iin fact is in terms of the U JS Constitution illegal..
In fact the other DP strategy was to get Trump off the candidacy list in the November election and the Supreme Court ruled unanimously against the DP - causing Biden to moan about the Supreme Court. So efforts al1 failed and efforts 2, 3 and 4 are all n trouble in the various courts.
The Biden dictatorship cannot get cases through the appeals phase of the court system The tragedy is the BS is going to cost the taxpayers millions and the fact is they arde going to have to pay for the imbecility of the dead head Biden criminal in the WH,
In both instances the bank provides a loan for an asset that has been overvalued
Firstly the property was not overvalued. This was evidenced by the fact that Stewart found a willing buyer at the set price. Do I need to explain how capitalism works?
Secondly Trump overvalued his property to obtain a larger loan. Stewart was the seller and not a purchaser in this situation so he didn't need to obtain a loan. So no its not an apples to apples situation.
And here is the next problem with your argument. We know who Stewart sold the property too, financier Parag Pande and filmmaker Ritu Singh Pande and we know the property was sold on again after sitting on the market for several years at a price tag of $20 million. It was eventually sold for just over $13 million a loss of 26% but still massively above the assessed value that the city did what Stewart owned the property.
What's happened is the people who purchased the property tried to sell it for further profit but failed to do so and after several years took a loss instead. There is zero indication they committed any fraud or defaulted on their debts or any evidence they conspired with Stewart. Zero, zilch, nada, nothing.
Thus the amount of money the bank provides to the borrower does not match up to the real value of the asset."
And you know the real value of New York real estate do you?
As already explained, there can be a marked difference between assessed value and market value.
I then pointed out what could happen in Stewart's case and why it is illegal to overvalue property beyond reason.
But go on, I'm all ears...school me on how overvaluation of property is actually legal.
Go on, I'm all ears...school me on what charges have been filed against Stewart? The deep state, corrupt democrats are not valid answers.
Talk me through how misrepresentation, loan fraud, market distortion,
tax irregularities and insurance fraud aren't all consequences of
overvaluation.
Again if your making a claim that Stewart committed fraud its up to you to prove it, not me to disprove it.
My Spidey sense is telling me to look out for a massive copy and paste form Star in my not-too-distant future,
I'd get your senses checked if I where you.
Stav
The banks do their own assessment and they found the request did not present a claim higher than they thought justified. I think you people know nothing about bank loans for development projects and the Bank manager at the trial burst out laughing when the D A tried to prove that the bank was defrauded.
You are totally ignorant about the procedures followed by -
* the applicant for loan application o development projects; and
* by the banks in dealing with loan applications.
"Secondly Trump overvalued his property to obtain a larger loan. Stewart was the seller and not a purchaser in this situation so he didn't to obtain a loan. So no its not an apples to apples situation. "
BS - the Bank decides on the loan amount - not the applicant. The banks do their own assessment of any applications and based the loan on their own assessment. They would never give a loan based on applicant over-assessment in this case they found the amount of the loan application within their ow n framework of assessment.
Please tell us clearly - who lost money on the Bank loan applicable in this case? The bank who granted he loan got repaid in full and in any fraud case there must be lost of assets or money. There was none and the bank effectively said they look forwardx to further laon applications by Trump - whom they value highly as a dev eloper and loan applicant. So where were actually fraud involved in the Trump case?
Okay, Star
So you see no legal parallels between overvaluing a property or business for purposes of surety and overvaluing a property for purposes of sale?
Like none?
...because...
Common Law Fraud: If a buyer can prove you knowingly listed the property for a significantly inflated price and they relied on that information to purchase it, they could sue you for common law fraud. They'd need to show:
- You made a false statement about the property's value.
- You knew the statement was false or reckless.
- They relied on the statement in good faith.
- They suffered damages due to the misrepresentation (likely the difference between the true value and what they paid).
Okay, Star
So you see no legal parallels between overvaluing a property or business for purposes of surety and overvaluing a property for purposes of sale?
Like none?
Again the property wasn't overvalued. He found a willing buyer on the open market.
That's great. Care to explain why the purchasers of Stewart property didn't sue him under Common Law Fraud? Could it be because they don't believe he did anything wrong per chance?
If someone robs a bank, uses the money & then dumps an equal amount of cash, plus interest, back into the bank a month later, he still robbed the bank.
The fact that Trump may have paid back the loans is completely irrelevant to whether he committed fraud in obtaining them.
don't shout at me ................ watch this instead
Your brain-train left the tracks yonks ago ................ diversify, get away from RTnews.
BS imbecile - what is RT news? I do not know because I never used it. What I do know is that you spent days on trying to find BS to reflect on site and what you came up is indeed lies and incredible twisted distortions.
When Hur had to investigate Biden about the documents he took home - he did not even remember when he was VP under Obama and did not remember the year his son died. Hur could not recommend charging him with a criminal offence because no jury will find him guilty because of his dementia problem. So that his dementia problem came to the fore - the media had to find issues where Trump was saying something they could distort.. You fell for that BS lock stock and barrel.Maybe you should see as shrink yourself - your brain-functioning has been destroyed by brainwashing and BS. So try again - you are indeed in need of help.
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