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Last Stage:Preparing for the great offensive

Started by Beeno154 REPLIES610 VIEWS· 13 May 2023, 11:29
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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
15 May 2023, 09:32
#41
15 May 2023, 09:32#41

There are countless buildings that have been hit on both sides.

All of which could have been avoided had Russia stayed out of Ukraine.

Some intentionally but also some not so...these things happen unfortunately in war.

Stop making excuses for war crimes.

Get off your fat posterior and examine Belgrade (Yugoslavia) in 1999 when NATO, illegally without UN Support decimated the capital by depleted uranium missiles and carpet bombing of civilians, ordered by Bill Clinton or are you completely ignorant of this...there are videos and photographs of this.

The NATO intervention into Yugoslavia was in response and to try to prevent a campaign of ethic cleansing by the Serbs against Albanian's of which there was far more documented and credible evidence of than the fabricated claims Russia has used to justify its attack on Ukraine. 

Yes unfortunately hundreds of civilians died, but NATO did not deliberately attack civilians or show anywhere near the level of carelessness the Russian's are showing in Ukraine. Far more civilians have been killed due to Russian actions than civlians killed by NATO in Yugoslavia. And to claim NATO carpet bombed Yugoslavia that's just a blatant lie. And drop the morale outrage over NATO using depleted uranium something its Russia uses as well.

When you point a finger at others, just remember there are numbers of other fingers pointing back at you.

That works both ways.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
15 May 2023, 10:52
#42
15 May 2023, 10:52#42

taxpayers in USA will be happy no doubt.

There is no taxpayer money involved in this war. The war is funded through emission of USDs.

This is how Russia is in a dead end.

So it is admitted that Russia blew up one warehouse worth 1 billion USDs.

It crippled Russia.

The US are going to emit one or two billion USD that were never circulated before.

The billions will be circulated for any purpose including buying overpriced ammo.

Ultimately, these newly circulated USD will end buying chinese goods, russian resources, SA gold and diamonds.

They are the ones funding the war effort. Not the US tax payer. The US tax payer may foot the bill for the cost of emitting the billions of USDs (peanuts in terms of energy and maybe a 10 millions to cover the cost of so called economical financial experts who are in charge of updating the hardware that hosts the USD digital version)

The more Russia destroys Ukraine, the more the US emit new and uncirculated USDs, new USDs that find value by buying russian, chinese, SA assets.

It is over.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
15 May 2023, 10:57
#43
15 May 2023, 10:57#43

hat's one mystery ...................... another, why do supposed devout Christians wholeheartedly & enthusiastically support this devastating invasion & show absolutely zero empathy for the innocent victims of this murderous incursion.All we get is , blame the USA!

Christianity is somehow 2 millenia old and by now, it is clear that Christianity has found its ways to support war.

There is nothing here.

Thousands of wars have been justified in the eyes of Christians. How it comes they would reject this one and on what ground.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
17 May 2023, 10:50
#44
17 May 2023, 10:50#44

After the USSR fell their was plenty of questions of whether NATO was still needed, but ultimately while the West hoped Russia would become a trusted partner on the world stage, it kept NATO around as an insurance policy, and that decision now looks completely justified.

Plenty of mouth talkings, maybe.

Liberal societes put trade at their center and have a long history of bringing guns to ease trade negotiations.

So NATO or its future version will survive the downfall of Russia.

Over the past decades, there has been a huge disagreement between the West and Russia over the position Russia should hold in a globalized world.

Globalists would prefer a country confined to trading resources and using part of its population to absorb inflation. Russian capital wanted more and still wants more. They do not want to be limited to the position they are pointed to.

Whoever means trade means trade lanes.

Whoever means control over trade means control over trade lanes.

NATO has been used to ensure the control. It will endure beyond the fall of Russia.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
17 May 2023, 12:21
#45
17 May 2023, 12:21#45

Plenty of mouth talkings, maybe.

I'm starting to think you're an alias for Jorden Peterson, with the amount of gobbledygook you talk.

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
17 May 2023, 14:28
#47
17 May 2023, 14:28#47

I never said NATO didn't bomb Ukraine, I said they never used carpet bombing which is saturation bombing, designed to flatten whole area's. Carpet bombing not been used since Vietnam.

Neither of those first video's you posted showed any evidence carpet bombing.

As for the last video and the claims about about cancer numbers in Serbia attributed to depleted uranium that was used in bombing. Where was the guy speaking  (presumably a member of the Chinese government) getting his information from?


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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
17 May 2023, 15:44
#48
17 May 2023, 15:44#48

"I'm starting to think you're an alias for Jorden Peterson, with the amount of gobbledygook you talk."

JP's got 150 IQ on top of Trad...I presume he's not you cup of tea?

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
17 May 2023, 16:06
#49
17 May 2023, 16:06#49

No, he's most certainly not.

Never seen a person try so hard to give complicated answers to simple questions.

If you where to ask Jordan Peterson the time, I'd suspect his response would be...well what is time, why do you want to know what time it is and then add something about lobsters and wokeness.



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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
17 May 2023, 16:57
#50
17 May 2023, 16:57#50

Some answers aren't as simple simple as it seems and need context, so he tends to use a lot of words to make a point...some people need it...but he's still infinitely mor intelligible than Trad.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
19 May 2023, 06:38
#51
19 May 2023, 06:38#51

I'm starting to think you're an alias for Jorden Peterson, with the amount of gobbledygook you talk.

Obviously not.

This guy is a product of liberalism hence his failure to produce thinking.

He is a peddler of ideas who relies on circonvolutions to market books.

He does not provide straigthforward answers in order to promote the sales of his books.

Usually, it follows the pattern: the guy can not answer directly (it is complicated) but lucky luck, he happens to have written a book that reads the answers.

There has been no sales pitch done that way so this should have been an indicator.

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
19 May 2023, 06:55
#52
19 May 2023, 06:55#52

Never seen a person try so hard to give complicated answers to simple questions.

Another liberal trademark feature: things do not exist unless they consent to their existence.

Yet it must be believed they fail to understand what is obvious for simple minded people to see.

First point made

Trade is the ultimate principle for liberal societies. Very hard to understand indeed. And more, it must be believed that liberals do not know the importance they grant to trade.

Second point made:

The war in Ukraine expresses a trade disagreement between Russia and the so called Western world. Another point hard to understand.

While there have been discussions about the integration of Russia into the Western world, they failed as the western world would have preferred Russia to be contained to natural resources trading and a reserve of cheap educated workforce, Russia wanted more and thought they could achieve more.

Another point also very hard to understand: liberals have a long history of bringing guns to the trade negotiation table. Very hard to understand. Hence the point made about NATO.

Yet liberals, as they are hooked on power, deny obvious points.

Things can not be unless they consent them to be.

Liberals ignore that trade is the central principle of their society.

Liberals dismiss the war in Ukraine as a trade dispute.

Liberals does not acknowledge NATO as a tool to ease trade negotiations.

Those can not be unless they consent.

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bobbok...Captain10,129 posts
19 May 2023, 07:56
#53
19 May 2023, 07:56#53

Circonvolutions ...................... ffs. Trad

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
19 May 2023, 08:23
#54
19 May 2023, 08:23#54

"[si?k??v?lysj?? ] plural feminine noun. twists




PS: You actually read all his stuff Blob?

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TheTraditionalistPro4,003 posts
19 May 2023, 10:33
#55
19 May 2023, 10:33#55

Pointless to read stuff like

trade is the ultimate principle for liberals

War in Ukraine is the outcome of a trade dispute between Russia and Western world

NATO is used to ease trade negotiations

There is nothing enlightening in this, statements of basic trivial mundane points that people are aware of.

Especially liberals.

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