Members on site fighting for the rights of Criminals are like the murderous Democrats,

Dehumanisation goes hand in hand with liberalism. It is encapsulated and can not be avoided. Criminals until it is proven otherwise are human beings. Which comes with consequences in liberal tenets.

Especially one is that they are as any other human being entitled to fight for their rights. Remember, peeps, as a rule of the thumb, one key act to test the validity of principles, tenets or whatever, people who profess them are the first ones to bail out of them. And liberals have since 1776 bailed out of their own principles. And they keep doing it.

So here we have a cult ruling in the USA - but there is no such thing, How do you describe why the Reupblican Party happenss to be a cult because they supported Trump in the 2024 election. Trump told the electorate during the campaign exactly what he would do if elected and so far he has done exactly what the voters voted for.

That was what is really weird - in the US A there is a four-yearly hantasy show clalled the USA where they promise s new word and after election do exacrly opposite to what they promised the people. That was the normal routine. Biden was a memtal health problem when he was elected as Presdient - and tha situation deteriorated badly His pokicies got the lower income voters in total and allowed illegal migrants to take theur obs away and subsidise he living through Government grants, It opened the way for scrupelous employers saw a way to making money by paying the migrants extremely low wages. So the result was a major loss of income for poor Black and Hia[nic voters and in opinion polls and in those polls there as a warning clear as daylight. We are suffering or do something or we will vote for Trump. That does not make the voters in those communitiy cult members and suppoters. It was e national reaction against Government ruling through incompetense, corruption and judicial abuse - in other words through constant undermining themselves politically,

Y e Dempcrats fougt te eecyion by suppling fake data about creating jobs and lowering of serious crime in the USA - policing was undermined and by creating 1 350 000 new Federal Government jobs .- an increase of 69% of the number of employees - but it create nothing ne bar in increase in the Federal debt, Since 2021 94% of the Government employees never went to their offices to do any work whatsoever, The only reult was an increase of $10 trillion.in Federal Government debts. Thrown in there were also going corruption in te Govenrment services rendered with teh FBU refusing to deal with it and the Justice Department playing a role in acting in stopping the pestilence, So it is n surprise that the voters would not support contuation f the utterly corrupt system, THAT DOES NOT SUPPORTING A CULT - IT DOES AN REACTRON AGAINST INCOMPETENT AMD CORRUPT G OVERNANCE,

Trump did what he promised the voters he would do what the voters voted for. That does not turn anyybody being part of a cult?

Above he stated that Tump should have acted in March agaisnt Israel. Bit that is not the way anybody with a brain acted. In the case of the ME sitation Trump want t make sure any action would have been prematre and helping Hamas. Tump wanted to have the Muslim Governemnts in the ME before he took action. He vossoted as string of ME countries - his first foreign visits af ter his inauguration - he waited to make sure the majority of ME coubries will back his solution of the crisis in Gaza throgh the using of 21 points of action. That was finalizd in July when he met a string of leaders from ME countries.hoa ttended the UN meetings in July and arrange wth the leaders and insofar as Hamas is concerned Turkey, Egypt and Qatar would handle he negituations with Hamas - while Witkpff and Kusgber would handle the negotiations with Usrael t end the war according to the 21 point peace plan. The result was that within a week the first three points were settled.within 3 days after engotiations started, After Israek without informing the USA they bombed Qatar - Trump read Neranjahu the riot act and he had no option to agree to what he was told to do,

Hamas realized something that if Trump said he will do something he would do it, Putin himself realized it as well and rushed to enhance negotiations to dtop the Ukraine War, On Monday it was announced that Zelenskyy wuld have a "wprkin g lunch" with Trump. on thursday since psoponed to today. I suspectefd there were something diferent was going on. Vance and Rubio together with Witkoff would meet with a similar high level deputation in Budapest next week. If there are progress in the meeting with the meeting next week in Budapest he would meet with Putn within 14 days,

In the meantime Trump informed the NATO leaders of what is happening and sent Hegseff to a meeting of Defense Ministers in Brussels and he did the saber-ratling required. A similar summit like happened in Egypt on Monday would be organized to show Putin he is isolated, - supported only by China and North Korea and perhaps by Brazil and Iran.

That is the way Trump always acted, Isolate countries and force hem to the negotiation table. It is likely that a peace agrement in Ukraine will be signed within the next three weeks. No wonmder Rubio is looking tored at the abinet mmeting last week. He will be even more tired after the next three weeks.

He's indeed an entertainer ... I'll give him that.

Trump did what he promised the voters he would do what the voters voted for. That does not turn anyybody being part of a cult?

Already wrote a piece about that (Donald Trump is the Yugi Moto of the liberal game) People who voted for Trump have now aligned their perceptions on Donald Trump's perception of the situation. They have forsaken their own self, a behaviour that matches cult members.

Trump is excellent, Trump is the GOAT of the liberal times. He may be hated by liberals as he keeps delivering clear-cut situations that do not require discussions or debates. Except people who suffer from huge cognitive deficiencies, every one is supposed to be able to confirm or infirm the correction of a situation. No grey areas liberals are fond of, no requirement for group thinking, for looking over the next person's shoulders to see what they have written on their sheet.

People know whether Trump has delivered on his promise. Liberalism is all about submission and demanding a discussion over knowing whether Trump has delivered over his promise is already a demand for submission.

Yugi Muto and Yami Yugi are the two personalities that share the body of the main character in Yu-Gi-Oh!. Yugi is the timid, kind-hearted boy, while Yami Yugi is the confident, ancient pharaoh Atem, whose spirit was sealed in the Millennium Puzzle. After Yugi solves the puzzle, Yami Yugi's spirit takes residence in his body, taking control when needed.

This video explains the difference between Yugi Muto and Yami Yugi in Yu-Gi-Oh!:

(Donald Trump is the Yugi Moto of the liberal game

ouTrad, reach out, can you call a friend, or a fellow Yugi ??

Agree to disagree, that's a copout

Not it's not, it's me coming to the realisation that you will never alter your opinion on this, so why should I bother to continue the debate and beating the same horse .....

You very conveniently forget that Nancy Pelosi designated that all select committee records be transferred to the Subcommittee .....however on further investigation later, it was determined that 900 interview summaries or transcripts, which amounted to over 1 Terabyte of digital data, and over 100 deleted or encrypted documents were never archived.

If you have nothing to hide, why would you do this...... don't try and convince me that this much missing data was just accidental, because there are just way too many different sources that were overlooked here.

There is already another video out where Pelosi talks badly about Irving and and Sund .... here it is here

Now remember, Paul Irving was appointed to the House Sergeant at Arms, by Nancy Pelosi, back in 2012, which is also why I believe she blames herself for what happened, and which is also why in the video below, she asks for Irving to be ousted, whilst softening the blow in the public eye.... for a failure of leadership.

https://x.com/its_The_Dr/status/1978268214065824045?t=Kt2sj5Hw-Yj8vtPkqeBPkg&s=03

You also forget what directly came out of Pelosi's mouth when she was being escourted from the capitol building, and it was all caught on camera.

"We have totally failed. We have to take some responsibility for not holding the security acccountable for what could have happened"

"Oh my God, I cannot believe the stupidity of this. And I take full responsibility"

She was responsible in some way or capacity with what happened on J6, and of that I am 100% sure.

In my opinion social media is far worse for misinformation the mainstream media which does have significant problems but to various degrees depending on the country can have some degree of accountability and oversight. Social media is just the wild west where near anything goes.

I agree with you, but there is absolutely no doubt in my mind at all, that without social media, so much of what has already come out into the public domain would have been suppressed by the main stream media, and you can't deny that.

ouTrad, reach out, can you call a friend, or a fellow Yugi ??

Better to read or watch the first arc in the anime series.

Donald Trump is the Yugi Moto of the liberal game.

You very conveniently forget that Nancy Pelosi designated that all select committee records be transferred to the Subcommittee .....however on further investigation later, it was determined that 900 interview summaries or transcripts, which amounted to over 1 Terabyte of digital data, and over 100 deleted or encrypted documents were never archived.

If you have nothing to hide, why would you do this...... don't try and convince me that this much missing data was just accidental, because there are just way too many different sources that were overlooked here.

Can't forget something I wasn't aware of.

Well looking into this, your referring to the Republican led investigation (I'm sure they have no reason to be partisan)

Well it does appear to the case that some records where not kept. An unspecified number of video recordings, 900 interview summaries/transcripts amount to over 1TB data appears not to have been kept and that sounds like a lot until you realise that over 1 million records were archived.

But why weren't those other records not kept. Well in the case of unedited video recordings, the committee simply wasn't obligated to do so and instead simply provided transcripts for them. We don't know how many videos were not archived but given that video files tend to be a lot larger in size than text/pdf documents it may well account for the bulk of the 1TB of data. As for the transcripts that were missing, some contained sensitive information such law enforcement details and personal details that could endanger witnesses and they where transferred over to other branches like the White House or Department of Home Security for secure handling rather than public handling.

If you care to look it up the January 6th committee's practices aligned with precedents in archiving records from previous investigations such as the 9/11 commission or the Iran-Contra Select Committees.

There is already another video out where Pelosi talks badly about Irving and and Sund .... here it is here

Now remember, Paul Irving was appointed to the House Sergeant at Arms, by Nancy Pelosi, back in 2012

, which is also why I believe she blames herself for what happened, and which is also why in the video below, she asks for Irving to be ousted, whilst softening the blow in the public eye.... for a failure of leadership.

https://x.com/its_The_Dr/status/1978268214065824045?t=Kt2sj5Hw-Yj8vtPkqeBPkg&s=03

Like f**k he was, he was nominated by then Speaker of the House John Borhner and the house all 435 of them unanimously approved it including all Republicans. .

And again look at the poster comment and look at the heading of that video on X. Part 2 J6 Planned by Democrats, more non partisan sources eh?

You also forget what directly came out of Pelosi's mouth when she was being escourted from the capitol building, and it was all caught on camera.

"We have totally failed. We have to take some responsibility for not holding the security acccountable for what could have happened"

"Oh my God, I cannot believe the stupidity of this. And I take full responsibility"

Not forgetting them, I just understand the proper context of what she said. When she said we have totally failed, she was meaning the political establishment including her in not recognizing the danger that Donald Trump supporters influenced by his repeated claims of voter fraud posed to the Capitol on that day. Her mistake was giving Trump supporters the benefit of the doubt that they wouldn't enact violence that day. They should of saw it coming given what they knew about Trump and how unhinged some of his supporters were.

I mean think about it for a minute, suppose Pelosi was involved in the decision making process regarding the deployment of the national guard on January 6th and that she did delay the deployment of the national guard by 30 or so minutes on purpose, in order for the situation at the capital where she was to get worse (and potentially put herself in danger) to do what? make Trump look bad (again why would they need to do that, they had already won the election),

Why then a few minutes later would this nefarious mastermind suddenly just confess on a camera a few minutes later.

She was responsible in some way or capacity with what happened on J6, and of that I am 100% sure.

Again under law she was not legally required in either the decisions on January 3rd or January 6th to deploy the national guard and there is no documented evidence of her being involved in the decisions.

Here is the facts of the matter. January 6th occurred because a mob of Trump supporters stormed the capital that day in an attempt to stop the certification of the 2019 election in the belief that the election was stolen from Trump. Whether Trump intended it or not his words inspired that riot and whether the rioters intended to riot in advance of January 6th or it was just a spur of the moment thing where they just went along with others, 100% January 6th would not have occurred at all had Trump not falsely claimed election fraud.

Can't forget something I wasn't aware of

That's very strange, because this information was specifically raised by myself, in detail, during previous discussions or debates on this very same topic on this forum, and I am not bothered to check if you were involved in those discussions, but it was definitely raised by myself before.

Like f**k he was

Correct, I just re-checked the course that I used with AI and it has now come back to me with apologies that it got that information wrong, telling me that even AI can make mistakes...

And again look at the poster comment and look at the heading of that video on X. Part 2 J6 Planned by Democrats, more non partisan sources eh?

This is where you limit your "critical thinking"

I don't care if the information comes from a dwarf colony porn site, if the information or video that I see is 100% accurate and undeniable, I really don't care where it is posted...... but you always do.

I do rely a lot on AI these days, as we all do, and even that can get it wrong, as we see above.

When she said we have totally failed, she was meaning the political establishment including her in not recognizing the danger that Donald Trump supporters influenced by his repeated claims of voter fraud posed to the Capitol on that day

Your interpretation... and your opinion..... nothing more, nothing less... just like mine

Why then a few minutes later would this nefarious mastermind suddenly just confess on a camera a few minutes later.

Nancy and her daughter have both been caught saying things on camera that they never ever wanted made public, including her daughter saying on camera that it was never an insurrection.......so no, I don't buy this explanation at all......it's your copout

100% January 6th would not have occurred at all had Trump not falsely claimed election fraud

You never can and never will know this for sure ... it's just much easier for you to blame Trump for everything

That's very strange, because this information was specifically raised by myself, in detail, during previous discussions or debates on this very same topic on this forum, and I am not bothered to check if you were involved in those discussions, but it was definitely raised by myself before.

Maybe you did, I just don't recall it.

This is where you limit your "critical thinking"

I don't care if the information comes from a dwarf colony porn site, if the information or video that I see is 100% accurate and undeniable, I really don't care where it is posted...... but you always do.

I do rely a lot on AI these days, as we all do, and even that can get it wrong, as we see above.

No that is me applying actual critical thinking. I do care where news comes from, if its a source with a very dubious track record when it comes to factuality then I'm not going to trust the source or take its claim's at face value.

Your interpretation... and your opinion..... nothing more, nothing less... just like mine

True but my interpretation is collaborated by the fact that Nancy Pelosi was not responsible for Capitol security on January 6th a fact that is supported by law.

Nancy and her daughter have both been caught saying things on camera that they never ever wanted made public, including her daughter saying on camera that it was never an insurrection.......so no, I don't buy this explanation at all......it's your copout

They weren't caught, they knew the camera was there on both occasions. Her daughter is a film maker and was as she had been in the past recording noteworthy events in her mothers life. And yes her daughter did say she did not believe it was an insurrection but that's just her opinion which is of course entitled too but that's still just one person's opinion.

You never can and never will know this for sure ... it's just much easier for you to blame Trump for everything

So are you going to tell me with a straight face that had Trump said nothing about election fraud and accepted the result of the election, January 6th could still have happened as it did?

Stav

With regards the National Guard, only the President, the Secretary of Defence and the Secretary of the Army can authorize their deployment. Again this is based on several legal basis, such the US Constitution, Article 1 Section 9, the Insurrection Act of 1807 (10 US Code 251-255), Title 10 and Title 32 of the US Code and the Department of Defence Chain of Command.

First of all you do not realize you are dealing here with corrupt shit called Nancy Pelosi, The fact is Trump would not send in the National Guard without her consent becaue she would scream that is an insurrection and the media would go crazy. If you follow what she did as to Jnuary 6 - ou may realize that what she was in line with ehr normal conduct.in dealing with political issues,

Nancy Pelosi was a Houdse member for more than 32 years, In that period she was involved in isnider trading and has accmmulated over $500 million dollar in such trading and other corrupt activities, . She also was involved in corruption in Ukraine - as well as other forms of corrupt conduct. In the end she stabbed Biden in the back and she was excluded fom the Autopen Pardons. I can gove yu 20- examples where she was corupt and where she was involved in insider trading.

For your information the maximum amount she could earn at an annual salary of S154 000 a year 2. was S5 million. To that you can earn per salary as a Speaker would increse her income to $540 000 - meaning she ws earning less than $6 000 000 during the time she was a House member so where did the rest of her fortune came from?

Time for this type of House member to get out in disgrace she deserve. .

.No one failed miserably, Tump was thanks to his wealth merely able to stall the legal process long enough to become President were he has immunity from the charges for the duration of his Presidency. It's still an open question what happens to him after he leaves office.

Trump never at all stopped or delayed thee legal process at all. If here was any evidence that wold stick in a court case - Garland would have charge him with crimnal offenses - but their was zero. It was only after it became clear Trump would campaign for re-election in 2024 that the Democrat National Committee decided on Sepember 2023 to lay charges against Trump in an effort to get him out of the campaign. Fact is that after that meetong said they would reveal their strategy in January 2024. The strategy was to lay criminal charges agaisnt Trump - but Garland feared they h ad zero that would ne uccessful so he appointed Smith as Special Council. The media caimed he was the one person that would get Trump charged and found guilty. He laid one charge against Trump about the FBI raid on Trumps Home. What followed in the court case was a farce - the Judge ordered that Smith and the FBI deliver all the documents for inspection by the defense as they are entiled to do in legal proceedings in the USA, So she also found that two photos the FBI spread to the media was false and not taken at Trump;s home. After 14 days produced nothing - she gave notice to Smith and the FBI if they do not deliver the documents she is going to charge them with undermining the Court. They took 32 boxes of documents from Mar-el-Lago and in terms of her order - only 21 boxes was in fact delivered, She then gave them another 14 days to deliver the rest - but failed to get a response and through out the charges and told Smith he could appeal her ruling

In the case of the January 6 issue he ested ethee vidence and it all collapsed as proof to the contrary emerge and he hen decided to monitor the telephonic discussions of 10 Republican Senators - an issue S mith should have gtten court permission to do - which he failed to get - so he acted illegally as Speocal Council, Smith then decided to run for cover and resigned a Special Council.

If the Justice Department had in fact a provable case - they had 3 years to lay charges against Trump and did not.until it was clear that Trump would campaign for election in 2024. So your quoted paragraph is in fact not of any value in this case. . .

Stav

With regards the National Guard, only the President, the Secretary of Defence and the Secretary of the Army can authorize their deployment. Again this is based on several legal basis, such the US Constitution, Article 1 Section 9, the Insurrection Act of 1807 (10 US Code 251-255), Title 10 and Title 32 of the US Code and the Department of Defence Chain of Command.

First of all you do not realize you are dealing here with corrupt shit called Nancy Pelosi, The fact is Trump would not send in the National Guard without her consent becaue she would scream that is an insurrection and the media would go crazy. If you follow what she did as to Jnuary 6 - ou may realize that what she was in line with ehr normal conduct.in dealing with political issues,

Nancy Pelosi was a Houdse member for more than 32 years, In that period she was involved in isnider trading and has accmmulated over $500 million dollar in such trading and other corrupt activities, . She also was involved in corruption in Ukraine - as well as other forms of corrupt conduct. In the end she stabbed Biden in the back and she was excluded fom the Autopen Pardons. I can gove yu 20- examples where she was corupt and where she was involved in insider trading.

For your information the maximum amount she could earn at an annual salary of S154 000 a year was S5 million. To that you can earn per salary as a Speaker would increse her income to $540 000 - meaning she ws earning less than $6 000 000 during the time she was a House member so where did the rest of her fortune came from?

Time for this type of House member to get out in disgrace she deserve. . .

Maybe you did, I just don't recall it.

I definitely did, in great detail, but fair enough

No that is me applying actual critical thinking. I do care where news comes from, if its a source with a very dubious track record when it comes to factuality then I'm not going to trust the source or take its claim's at face value.

Then apply your critical thinking to what I just posted to you above.....because I very clearly said that if it was 100% accurate and undeniable, then I really don't care who or where it is posted..... and this changed a few years ago when I realised just how much the mainstream media deliberately misinterpreted or misrepresented what happened with so many hot topics, whilst deliberately suppressing certain information on big stories from the public.

This is like you thinking, believing and saying that if it is 100% confirmed and verified that Charlie Kirk was assassinated, you would not believe it because it came from some local back yard newspaper, but you would only believe it from some mainstream media outlet, even though it was verified.....

To me, as long as it is verified, it should not matter if some low budget online website posted it...... that is the point I am making.

Unlike so many others, I don't rely on CNN, MSNBC, CBS News, Facebook etc etc and all these other completely untrustworthy news outlets that have illustrated to the entire world over the last 8 - 10 years that they can never ever be trusted again to broadcast the truth behind any high profile story or incident.

True but my interpretation is collaborated by the fact that Nancy Pelosi was not responsible for Capitol security on January 6th a fact that is supported by law

Not directly responsible for capitol security, yes, but Pelosi was involved and responsible for the timeous response of the national guard to what happened on that day, and she failed miserably.

They weren't caught, they knew the camera was there on both occasions. Her daughter is a film maker and was as she had been in the past recording noteworthy events in her mothers life. And yes her daughter did say she did not believe it was an insurrection but that's just her opinion which is of course entitled too but that's still just one person's opinion.

Wrong, Nancy's daughter was not aware that she was being recorded, hence why she was so honest and outspoken about it not being an insurrection....and you can clearly see the person recording her saying this is concealing the camera from her.... look again and tell me differently.

And as for Nancy, lol, sure, just like all the other hot mic conversations that were never supposed to be made public....

So are you going to tell me with a straight face that had Trump said nothing about election fraud and accepted the result of the election, January 6th could still have happened as it did?

No, I will put on record that Trump definitely had something to do with inflaming the people with the whole election issue, and of that there is no doubt....but to solely blame him for what happened on the day is absolute rubbish.

Then apply your critical thinking to what I just posted to you above.....because I very clearly said that if it was 100% accurate and undeniable, then I really don't care who or where it is posted..... and this changed a few years ago when I realised just how much the mainstream media deliberately misinterpreted or misrepresented what happened with so many hot topics, whilst deliberately suppressing certain information on big stories from the public.

This is like you thinking, believing and saying that if it is 100% confirmed and verified that Charlie Kirk was assassinated, you would not believe it because it came from some local back yard newspaper, but you would only believe it from some mainstream media outlet, even though it was verified.....

To me, as long as it is verified, it should not matter if some low budget online website posted it...... that is the point I am making.

Unlike so many others, I don't rely on CNN, MSNBC, CBS News, Facebook etc etc and all these other completely untrustworthy news outlets that have illustrated to the entire world over the last 8 - 10 years that they can never ever be trusted again to broadcast the truth behind any high profile story

That not I was saying. I'm not saying the video clip wasn't genuine, or that social media or smaller news outlets can't be trusted or are always wrong. It's the framing and presentation of the clip that's the problem, the video indicates nothing of the sort that either the poster of the clip or the video editor claim it does and it clearly shows the political agenda and bias of both. It also doesn't support your argument that Pelosi felt guilty for appointing Irving (which you now know she didn't) and was trying to soften the blow for a failure of leadership. She was merely expecting accountability from those who were in charge. It's a random out of context clip that doesn't prove anything.

Not directly responsible for capitol security, yes, but Pelosi was involved and responsible for the timeous response of the national guard to what happened on that day, and she failed miserably.

But their is no documented evidence to support was she responsible for the response time of the national guard. She was never involved in the decision making process on the day. We have one man Steven Sund's statement that Irving had to take the decision of deploying the national guard up the chain and may genuinely or not have assumed that meant Pelosi but that doesn't make it reality. Irving refuted him stating by up the chain he meant the other two members of the Capitol Police Board, the people who actually handled security for the Capital. Why would he need to have gone to Pelosi when her approval wasn't needed. And again their is no collaborating witnesses or phone records that have Pelosi involved in the decision making process regarding the deployment of the national guard.

Wrong, Nancy's daughter was not aware that she was being recorded, hence why she was so honest and outspoken about it not being an insurrection....and you can clearly see the person recording her saying this is concealing the camera from her.... look again and tell me differently.

And as for Nancy, lol, sure, just like all the other hot mic conversations that were never supposed to be made public....

Look it up, it was her camera, she was recording for her own production. Google, it or ask Grok or whatever A.I you want to ask. They will all tell you that she was recording it for her own documenting purposes. The reason she was so candid speaking while on camera was because she was speaking to people involved in the January 6th riot and was trying to get them to participate in her documentary.

No, I will put on record that Trump definitely had something to do with inflaming the people with the whole election issue, and of that there is no doubt....but to solely blame him for what happened on the day is absolute rubbish.

Something...something...come on he's the man most overwhelming responsible for January 6th and if he's not 100% responsible then he 90% plus. I mean if their was security failures on January 6th it is important to find out who was responsible, hold them accountable and take actions to ensure the failure doesn't occur again but that is secondary by far to finding out who what the actual root cause of the riot was, who was responsible for it and holding them accountable.