Michigan Protestors: Swastikas, Guns & Nooses & Confederate flags
Why have a gun if you have no plans to use it... It is a sign of aggression showing this in public. It is like those steroid bouncers in South Africa that take up as much space as possible when they walk- it is just being aggressive.
I expect America will soon do away with the second amendment - it is outdated. I believe it was originally taken from British law many moons ago.
So here goes again. Obama tried to start a Police State and install a dictatorship in America. Fact the latest documents came to the fore confirmed it. His side-kick to succeed him was colluding with the Russians to mislead the USA voters to support their dictatorship supported by the Globalists and left-wing lot, They even connived with China - who paid them, handsomely to collaborate with China in a World Government controlled by the Chinese Communists and the moneyed elite,
That was the program that was upset by Trump winning the US election. So they had to get rid of him and install a puppet, There was a problem - so start the Russian Collusion Hoax and get the FBI and CIA to provide falsified information that could be used against Trump. The Steele Dossier provided the info, The next move was to appoint the Mueller Special Council with the aged and already dementic Mueller in the chair and his 28 assistants - all with close ties to the Democrats, They tried desperately to get at Trump - but found nothing they could use, It was a fraudulent set-up by the most corrupt President the USA ever had,
Now the outcry about the Second Amendment. You obviously does not know that it is virtually impossible to change the US constitution without universal support by all the states, A large percentage of people lost faith in the Governing elite of the USA and especially the mafia clique that took over the Democratic Party, They wanted to retain their arms to protect them from the criminal police state the DP wants to install on them. So the dropping of the Second Amendment has zero chance to go through.
Even though you would never believe it because you have been brainwashed by the media, the Obama Administration was totally corrupt and an abomination. So why should the people trust them? .
The US government has more arms than any country in the world, so it would be like bringing a water pistol to a gunfight.
All this law allows people to do is wave guns in the street which is a threat to the general public who do not want to carry guns around.
“ Posted by: sharkbok (11523 posts)
May 10, 2020, 18:37So let's go have a picnic in a public park, and suddenly some rednecks show up with automatic weapons. “
Here’s a challenge for you.
Give us the figures reflecting the number of gunslinging rednecks responsible for mass shootings using automatic weapons. Not a few numbers from cherry picked cases/incidences. The percentage of killings by so-called rednecks. Remember your main filters has to be rednecks and automatic weapons. Not AR15s. Automatic weapons.
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Ku Klux Klan - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Ku_Klux_KlanThe Ku Klux Klan commonly called the KKK or the Klan, is an American white supremacist hate group, whose primary target is African Americans. The Klan has ...Political position?: ?Far-rightEspoused religion?: ?Protestantism? (second Klan); ...?Leaders of the Ku Klux Klan · ?Women of the Ku Klux Klan · ?Ku Klux Klan in Canada
These were far-right deeply religious people, much like the AWB. ---------Vernon Dahmer was a business and political leader in Hattiesburg, Mississippi, whose success as a farmer, sawmill operator and merchant had earned him the admiration of black and white residents alike. But his outspoken support of voting rights for blacks earned him the enmity of the violent White Knights of Mississippi. for years, the White Knights stalked Dahmer. When the time was right, they planned to burn his home — or kill him, if possible. After Dahmer offered to pay the poll taxes of blacks too poor to register to vote, the Klan decided to strike. They attacked Dahmer’s home and grocery store with guns and fire bombs. His 10- year-old daughter was hospitalized with third degree burns; Dahmer died from the injuries he suffered in the blaze.
--------------Sensing racial tensions were ripe for an explosion, Wilkinson took his Klan members into the area and held a series of rallies that drew from 3,000 to 10,000 participants. In May 1979, 80 Invisible empire members armed with pistols, shotguns and clubs confronted a “free Tommy Lee Hines” parade in downtown Decatur. Two blacks and two Klansmen were shot in the ensuing battle. Ten Invisible empire members, including Wilkinson’s Alabama grand dragon, were indicted on civil rights violations. (Hines’ conviction was later overturned on appeal, and he was declared mentally incompetent to stand trial.)
--------------n 1986, Miller, his lieutenant Stephen Miller (no relation), and their organization, now renamed the white patriot party, were found guilty of violating the order that banned them from conducting paramilitary training. they were both sentenced to brief prison terms; Stephen Miller’s was suspended. But while they were out on bond waiting for their appeal to be heard, they took their radical strategy to its extreme. dECLARAtion of WAR Several months after his conviction, Stephen Miller and four other white patriots were arrested after they plotted to rob a Fayetteville, north Carolina, restaurant, buy stolen military explosives, blow up the Southern poverty Law Center and kill Law Center Director Morris Dees. (Dees, SpLC’s Legal Director richard Cohen and U.S. attorney Sam Currin had conducted the contempt of court prosecution of the Millers.) two of the conspirators pleaded guilty; Stephen Miller and another were convicted and sentenced to prison. the fifth man was acquitted. in april 1987, Glenn Miller, then in hiding, issued a “declaration of total war” against the government, blacks and Jews. in his declaration, Miller assigned a point system for the assassination of key minority, government and civil rights leaders, with Dees heading the list. ten days later, Miller was captured in Missouri along with three other white patriots and a cache of weapons that included grenades, pipe bombs, automatic rifles, shotguns, pistols and crossbows
There are not websites that list gun crimes by "Red necks", and their weapon of choice.
Many of those random gun killings mass shootings in the US- no doubt most of these are far-right religious nut jobs.
Ah, I was wondering how long before the back pedalling was going to start. For someone as accomplish in using the internet that cannot be that difficult, can it? Fir some reason you suddenly seem quite helpless.
Which is the country where you would normally find gunslinging rednecks? Come on now. Does that help or do need some more help?
SB
For one the army is mostly Republican nd would support the people and not the criminals.
The KKK was actually started by the DEMOCRATS and nurtured by them for nearly 80 years, As they moved from the conservative to the leftist socialists they started a new organization called ANTIFA an organization that is near to be classified as a terrorist organization.
Old habits die hard - I am afraid
There is no doubt the right-wing militant religious are worse, but they left wing also has some nut cases.
There is no doubt the right-wing militant religious are worse, but they left wing also has some nut cases.
All US extremist killings in 2018 had links to right-wing ...
www.businessinsider.com › extremist-killings-links-righ...5 Aug 2019 - A mass shooting in El Paso, Texas, on August 3 has reignited a discussion on violence associated with white nationalism and the far right. The ...https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1?r=US&IR=TA mass shooting in El Paso, Texas, on August 3 has reignited a discussion on violence associated with white nationalism and the far right.
The suspected shooter, a white male, wrote a manifesto containing blatantly xenophobic language. The manifesto cited the "invasion" of immigrants as the reason for the shooting, which left 20 people dead.
Correspondingly, reports in the past year have pointed to unsettling trends surrounding right-wing extremism and violence.
Every extremist killing in the US in 2018 had a link to a right-wing extremism, according to a January 2019 report from the Anti-Defamation League's Center on Extremism.
The report zeroes in on incidents such as the high school shooting in Parkland, Florida, in February 2018, and the mass shooting at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, in October 2018.
There were at least 50 extremist-related killings in the US in 2018, according to the report, making it the fourth-deadliest year on record for domestic extremist-related killings since 1970.
Read more: Right-wing violence has 'accelerated' in the US since Trump took office
"The extremist-related murders in 2018 were overwhelmingly linked to right-wing extremists," the report states. "Every one of the perpetrators had ties to at least one right-wing extremist movement, although one had recently switched to supporting Islamist extremism. White supremacists were responsible for the great majority of the killings, which is typically the case."
The Anti-Defamation League's findings are consistent with other recent research on right-wing extremism in the US, which shows it's on the rise.
"The number of terrorist attacks by far-right perpetrators rose over the past decade, more than quadrupling between 2016 and 2017," the Center for Strategic and International Studies said in a November 2018 report. "The recent pipe bombs and the October 27, 2018, synagogue attack in Pittsburgh are symptomatic of this trend."
Correspondingly, a November 2018 analysis from The Washington Post on global terrorism data showed that far-right violence has been on the rise since President Donald Trump entered the White House.
"Over the past decade, attackers motivated by right-wing political ideologies have committed dozens of shootings, bombings and other acts of violence, far more than any other category of domestic extremist," the report stated.
The report said this has occurred alongside a "decades-long drop-off in violence by left-wing groups," which were considered the top extremist threat in the US three to four decades ago.
Meanwhile, three men and a male high school student were earlier this month charged with plotting to attack a Muslim community in upstate New York with explosives. In a separate incident, a Colorado man was arrested last Saturday after he posted on social media that he planned to kill "as many girls as I see." Police reportedly feared the man planned to target a Women's March event occurring nearby.
Relatedly, FBI data released in early November 2018 showed hate crimes rose 17% in 2017.
The Trump administration has faced criticism over its approach to extremism, as many feel it's exaggerated the threat posed by jihadists while largely ignoring the violence perpetrated by far-right groups.
President Donald Trump sparked a significant amount of backlash over his response to deadly far-right violence in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August 2017. Trump controversially blamed the violence on "many sides." Far-right leaders praised Trump's response to the events in Charlottesville, and have often spoken approvingly of him.
On top of concerns regarding his rhetoric, critics feel Trump isn't taking the issue seriously enough given he cut funding to programs designed to counter violent extremism.
https://www.businessinsider.com/extremist-killings-links-right-wing-extremism-report-2019-1?r=US&IR=T
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VISIT SITEAn October 2018 poll from the Public Religion Research Institute showed a majority of Americans agree that Trump has "encouraged white supremacist groups" with his decisions and behavior.-------------------------------------https://www.businessinsider.com/report-under-trump-far-right-violence-on-the-rise-in-the-us-2018-11?r=US&IR=T
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/07/gun-violence-white-supremacy-right-wing
And there we go. More back pedalling. What is the problem?
Are you worried about what you may found when you start doing research?
Or don’t you know how to do the research?
Or are you already doubting your assertion about having “.... a picnic in a public park, and suddenly some rednecks show up with automatic weapons... “?
Not that a killer is worse if they are left or right-wing, however, the US has had a massive increase in right-wing killers.
Since Trump has got into power, the right-wing killings have increased.
Were you a member of the AWB Ceradunce?
Last question first. Nope. I have never been a member of any far right wing organisation. Never been a member of any political organisation either.
Now how long are you going to keep up your back pedalling.
"Since Trump has got into power, the right-wing killings have increased."
Imagine going to Michigan and you see those red neck protestors in the town centre, or walking through the park nearby where families are having picnics. It is not reasonable for them to have guns. The point is it is getting worse under Trump who is encouraging these demonstrations. The red necks are getting more confrontational.
No back-peddling at all.
Michigan is a state with a Dem Governor, a Dem Lt Governor, two Dem Senators (no Republican senators), 7 House delegates, 6 Republican House delegates and one Libertarian House delegate. I trust that you haven’t forgotten that the USA is a federal republic, have you?
Hey Sharkbok. I was wondering. Don’t you think now is a good time to revisit this thread?
Maybe continue the discussion of the FBI and snipers, etc.
Some of your earlier remarks that could also be revisited:
“ All rednecks should be round up and put in a farm area and they can do as they will- within their own segregated area. This will stop them defeating the purpose of the lockdown. “
“ Imagine going to Michigan and you see those red neck protestors in the town centre, or walking through the park nearby where families are having picnics. It is not reasonable for them to have guns. The point is it is getting worse under Trump who is encouraging these demonstrations. The red necks are getting more confrontational. “
I would round up Antifa and other violent protestors, and put them on a farm with the Republican red necks. They both like violence, so it should be a match made in heaven.Both also like to ignore rules of lockdown- and spread the virus... This way they can spread it too each other. (Then other people around the world are not committing time to a lockdown, while others reject it) .
The difference is that you support the military actions of the alt-right red necks, whereas I do not support the far left in any shape or form.
I don't recall ever doing protests on the street. If I did protest, it certainly would not be for Black Lifes Matter. As far as I can see black people around the world are statistically more likely to be involved in criminal activity.
I would be happy to put Antifa and the red necks on a one-way rocket to Mars.
“ Posted by: sharkbok (11811 posts)
Jun 13, 2020, 14:15Good idea.
I would round up Antifa “
Really? The one minute you worship them. The next minute you want to round them up. Real fair weather friend, aren’t you?
Just because someone does not support the far right, does not mean they support the far left. For the happy clappies there are 2 sides. Good and evil. No less, no more... Abrahamic truth.
In reality, there is a spectrum of ideology - not 2 sides...
“ Posted by: sharkbok (11812 posts)
Jun 13, 2020, 15:09@Ceradunce, you have to lie to keep up the alt-right charade. Create relationships and associations that do not exist. “
What a plonker. You did not even realise I was baiting you to come up with exactly this allegation. I knew that you would expose your true colours sooner or later and you walked straight into it.
You do realise that you have just exposed yourself as the typical leftie luvie that you are. Accuse others of doing exactly what they themselves do. It is exactly how all the lefties operate. One rule for them and another for the rest.
You have been accusing me of being far-right, alt-right and fuck knows what for ages without any shred of evidence. I have exposed your ignorance before and you did not even realise it, but I let go, because I knew that sooner or later you would walk straight into it.
Unless I have missed something, this is the very first time that you have tried to create the impression that you do not condone what has been happening, and you are only doing it to save some face. I am not convinced that you are really all that opposed to what these idiots are doing. You are also nailing only Antifa. What about BLM and the rest of the so-called peaceful protesters? Didn’t the break the lockdown rules as well? Shouldn’t they also be rounded up with Antifa and the “rednecks”. That’s a hell of a lot of people that you will have to round up. Where do you suppose they be kept? Obama’s wire cages, maybe?
You jumped on the Michigan events in a flash, yet you are still to condemn the actions of these rioting, looting fuckers in the USA and the UK. You were pissing yourself day in and day out about social distancing and the dangers of getting the economies going again, yet you have till now not said a word about these protests, rioting and looting and the coronavirus. I am sure that, should there now be a sudden spike in coronavirus cases and fatalities, the very first person that you would blame would be Trump and thereafter Boris Johnson.
You are a freaking fake, man.
The alt right sure burned down Murica violently silencing everyone they disagree with...oh wait...
“ Posted by: sharkbok (11813 posts)
Jun 13, 2020, 15:43There is one more seat for the flight to Mars. I have reserved it for you... Your knowledge of guns should be useful if you have an argument with the other rednecks or far left. “
Hope you reserved a place for yourself. We wil l need the services of someone with a masters in internet trolling up there.
Sharkbok, you have to understand how these tiny little Trumpanzee minds work . . . if you don't like Bozo then you must be a supporter of Antifa.
That's honestly how these brainwashed morons think.
I can't think of a movement more sanctimoniou s, hypocritical and indulgent than this current Black Lives Matter garbage yet we have Baboon-ou claiming I'm a supporter.
Very stupid and very dishonest . . . like all Trumpanzees.
Like clockwork ou Rooies feels the need to jump in lend his little lickspittle some moral support.
Unfortunately the mamparra makes the same mistake as am the rest of the leftie loonies. Accuse those they don’t agree with of exactly what they, themselves, are doing.
Rooinek
The main choice is between Republicans and Democrats in the USA,
It is easy to differentiate between the two parties, In the main the Republicans are basically center-right in approach - some legislation on for instance Prison reform have leftists elements in it, They are insisting to no links with Ultra-rightest and nobody with links to for instance the KKK are allowed to become party members.
On the other hands the Democrats is more complex to evaluate. They claimed to be a center-left party - not there are reservations about that claim. At this stage the Party is left-wing in respect of economic and trade policies. They insists on open borders and is extremely leftwing on most immigrant related aspects. One of the DP problems is that they have three factions within the party - these factions being -
* the Maoists and Extreme Communists and anarchists:
* the modern China Communists
* Socialists.
The DP is also funding and organizing two organizations that can best ne described as verging on terrorism - BLM and Antifa,
The party is closely tied to the Chinese Government. It is suspected that the ties relates to bribery and corruption.
If for some bizarre reason I ever want the opinion of a terminally stupid, tedious and cowardly liar, then rest assured, your name will be right at the very top of my list. I mean that. Not near the top but the very top.
Okay?
Good. Until then, do us both a favour and stop yapping for my attention like a whiny little bitch . . . you're embarrassing yourself and making everyone feel a bit uncomfortable. No-one likes to see someone with no self-respect wheedling and grovelling for little crumbs of attention. It makes people cringe.
Like I said, I hope you take this in the sincere and helpful spirit it is intended. I'm honestly not trying to be mean to you or trying to score a cheap shot and I really went out of my way to say it in the kindest way possible.
Run along now, Cowardunce . . . I'm quite sure some of your pals like Moffie, DumbAss and the Squeaky Toy think that you're interesting or relevant. I unfortunately don't. No hard feelings, I hope.
Ou Maaik, read what I said to Cowardunce. It applies to you as well . . . except I've told you the same thing countless times and it just doesn't seem to register.
“ If for some bizarre reason I ever want the opinion of a terminally stupid, tedious and cowardly liar, then rest assured, your name will be right at the very top of my list. I mean that. Not near the top but the very top. “
Ou Rooies, the number of times you jump in uninvited, would suggest that you are craving attention. I don’t know, but you may have noticed that you were not even mentioned in this conversation at all. I addressed your little love child and as I said, like clockwork, you once again jumped in to defend the poor little baby before his feelings get hurt.
Look, I can understand these tantrums of yours. It has to be difficult when you are this desperate for attention, yet everybody keeps shitting on you for being such an irritating misfit.
yapping for my attention like a whiny little bitch . . . you're embarrassing yourself and making everyone feel a bit uncomfortable.
. Only piss mint, jalepeno and your other personalities feel uncomfortable.
https://mobile.twitter.com/bidenmck/status/1271719907915452416
Amazing the tolerance the legacy corporate media has for "armed citizens" with "assault weapons" now, ain't it? @oliverdarcy
More on Vrottie’s heroes:
I also stated that anyone ignoring the social distancing rules is a CovIdiot. First to do so were the alt-right, only to be outdone by black lives matter. Both protests ignored what the lockdown was meant to accomplish.
I also stated that you would be joining the CovIdiots on a one way trip to Mars.
Define alt right. I don’t want the version that is found by doing a google search. You’re own understanding/interpretation of the term alt right.
Wikipedia explains it in more depth. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt-right
I'm a centrist occasionally gently swaying a wee bit to the left, or right ....... oh lord its hard to be humble...........
“ Posted by: sharkbok (11815 posts)
Jun 14, 2020, 01:03Alt-Right = Religious white conservatives, but with more extreme views. “
Great well done. Thank you for proving what I knew all along. You have no clue what you are talking about. You do not know your arse from your elbow, let alone the difference between conservative and far right, let alone alt right. Now piss off.
Blob, everyone think of themselves as centrists...but I agree with you. I haven't seen any extreme lefty views from you. You seem to be a live and let live kinda guy except for your extreme dislike for Trump...but Trompie as you call him, is a symptom of something seriously wrong with the world.
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