Oh, I didn't say illegals could vote, did I?
You literally just did.
I said the Dems were letting in illegals and they would then vote Dem.
At some point they do become citizens. And when they do, you better believe they'll vote for the guys that let them in.
= Dems subverting democracy by allowing illegals into the USA.
Leaving aside the completely unnuanced claim that dems were letting in illegals and leaving aside the fact that if illegal immigrants become citizens that they are NO LONGER ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND ENTITLED TO VOTE, do illegal immigrants who go on to become citizen tend to vote democrat?
Well two reports published before the 2020 US census, looked into it and found the number of seats gained and lost by both sides was a wash.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/mar/25/more-immigrants-equal-better-odds-for-democrats-af/
LOL you have the gall to accuse the Dems of trying to subvert democracy after Trump's 2020 election result denial and January 6th.
But sure, Star...I obviously believe that illegals can turn up and vote in Federal elections.
You see here is the thing, you have expressed all manner of beliefs here on this forum in the past so it isn't a stretch that you would believe such a thing. Asides from which Republicans from Trump to Musk pushed the narrative that non citizens could vote during the election campaign.
Also I like the way you have in the past expressed support for the idea of election fraud in 2020 but now your saying illegals can't vote in election. I guess they must have some system in place to stop illegals voting right...but they couldn't possibly prevent other types of voting fraud right. LOL
I'd say I'm not sure why you keep pulling this stuff, but I've seen
enough of how you operate to make my conclusions at this point.
I'm not pulling anything. Its clear Republicans had been pushing the narrative that illegal immigrants (not illegal immigrants who want on to becomes citizens though I'm sure that's been pushed too) are voting. You didn't differentiate between the two.
Are illegal immigrants criminals? I'll give you a clue...it's in the
name FFS. People that break US laws by entering the country illegally
are CRIMINALS. Why? Because they have committed a crime.
Shifting the goalposts. Technically people who enter American illegally are committing a criminal act but that's not Trump is talking about when he makes speeches about illegal immigrants. He refers to them as drug dealers,rapists, and murders, criminals out of jail or insane asylums, people who are carrying deadly diseases, people who eat dogs and cats etc. Of course you know this but your choosing to be deliberately obtuse.
But none of this means much because Trump might absolutely despise
illegal immigrants. He might insult them at every turn. But that is not
Nazism.
Insulting or demonizing them at every turn, is what Hitler did to the Jews, it was to condition the population to hate them. Now you could say its just a coincidence that's what Trump is doing with immigrants but when he's refers to certain people as having good genes and immigrants poisoning the blood of the country, that is very Nazi-esque language.
Unless, of course, any person anywhere that is harsh on crime,
doesn't like criminals, speaks out against them, and seeks to follow the
law in dealing with whatever crime they have committed is a Nazi?
Strawman, no one is saying that.
But this exactly the left tactic. Unless people want to accept mass illegal immigration, they are Nazis.
Another strawman. What the left wants is a reasonable debate on immigration where the pro's and con's are discussed governed by facts, laws and human rights consideration.
If they don't want to accept their kids being taught that there are an infinite amount of genders, they are homophobic.
...on and on.
Agree with us or you are the worst of the worst.
Follow our logic, or you're a Nazi.
And that's not dangerous rhetoric at all, right?
Oh FFS you can't even straw man right, as if the Nazi's were pro LGBT. Jesus wept.
Please, don't talk about being programmed, cos you actually sound like a robot.
Herp derp TDS...herp derp...virtue signalling...herp derp
...spouting exactly the type of shit that causes people to attempt to
assassinate presidents, physically attack people for their opinions...on
and on.
It looks like a duck, it quacks like a duck...how dare they call it a duck. Of course everyone should be against violence of any kind when it comes to politics but are you seriously going set their and pretend Trump's rhetoric doesn't result in more hate crimes against immigrants?
Tell me, when Hillary called people deplorables...was that a Nazi dog whistle?
When those late night talk show hosts refer to the "rust belt" and "rednecks", are those Nazi dog whistles?
I mean, they are perpetuating the idea of "others", aren't they?
Hillary didn't bring up bloodlines or genetics and when she used the basket of deplorables comment she specifically called them "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic", all but the latter were traits of Nazism. So I'm not sure how calling out traits that where mostly supported by Nazism is suppose to be a pro Nazi dog whistle.
Leaving that aside Hilary rode back on the comments the next day and unlike Trump it wasn't a reoccurring theme of her campaign.
As for rust belt and rednecks. Rust belt is not a slur, its just a term used for an area that's undergone industrial decline, if you think rust belt is a slur then your just looking for a reason to be offended. Redneck's is a slur and one that shouldn't be used but its mostly used as an insult to imply a person or people are stupid. The democrats are not going round trying to equate rednecks with criminal gangs, drug dealing, rape and murder.
No its not 'othering' because no one is arguing they are not really American or trying to drum up public support to deport them.