President Musk will not be pleased . . .

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0SV_uK

 Tjis is as expected total B S  spreading  again/  Coming  from Politico ir uis exoced to be a repaet of B S  about he Bleach story/  Tump tried to cmfort the panicking people that the matter of Covid and made he mistake o deal with isues in the emdia who he know hated him - he did not know that the criminal he used as chief advisor was involved in the gain -of function research funded by the Government of the USA was the source of the pandemic.     

When Trump became aware of the role of Dr Faucci and that women you quoted now wnt to see him to warn about the catsastrophic  result that could result from the vitus,   In the emntime the advice was floundering around - one daty he said masks don't protect people - a week later  h aid everybody should wear masks.   Meanwhile they banned existing approved drugs from being used - even when Indian doctors used it with successful usage of a drug normally used to treat malaria was sccessfully used in India the Health Department banned usage in the USA.   Trump to take certain measures to protexct the USA -

*    when he found out that both the WHO and President Xi lied to him he tore up the trade agreement with China  and cancel the USA membership of the WHO and banned entry of non-citizens from China entering the USA on 30 January 2020 resulting of him being  accused andf heat botch Pelosi went to the Chinese market  to protest the racist action Trump took by banning entry as racist and it must also be remembered that he effectively closed the border from non citizens people entering the USA;

*     he strongly advised the Pharma industry they  must develop a vaccine to be used to fight Covid and foced the Health Deprtment to expedite approval of he vaccine while Biden and Harris campaigned against the usage of the vaccine and stated   they would not accept the usage and swiore they would not use te vaccine themselves - anothe lie the two were  one of the first people that was vaccinated;

*    knowing that it would hurt the economy and the working class people and expecially the poor he made available grants to help people to te tune of $4,6 trillion in gant funding of people - of which the Auditor General fond that $5,4 illion was effecively stolen and the Wray FBI refuised to investigate;

*     hen he became aware that the virus originated from the Wuhan Lab research and found out how it was funded  by the UA Government in Sptembe 2020 he fired Faucci from the management teama nd appointed a special task team to investigate te origins o the vorus and the role the USA played in teh funding;

*     Trump also know that in terms of the USA Consitution Health wa a State nd no  Fedeal fuction and the only role he Federal Govenment played was to  help the States financially and through whatever else they need help on - but the States  did things that s highly dtrimental to people - for istance they sent infected people to the care eners for the elderly where tens of thousands of the elderly died as a reuslt and the death rate of people dieing from he virus was highe in 2021 - when Biden was president than it was in 2020 when Trump was President.

*      On of Biden's first actions was to close down  the task team Trump apppointed to investigate the origin of he virus and instructed the FBI and CIA to investigate the issue nd rport back the results of their investigation within six months.    After a year the FBI nd CIA found that there were no evidence they could find - another lie since ina House hearing on the issue Wra aid it is common knowledge that he viruse came om the Wuhan Lab.

*      In Democratic States the schools were cloed for two years and no education was provided to children in that peiod.    Although all States closed down business operations and comfimed people to their homes - in Reublican states the closrue of business were stopped within six months since it was totally ineffective and started operating business and othe facilities and lifted  the intial bans.    Unfoirtunately the rules to keep people  from leaving  heir homes was not appi;iicable to the Demoratic Party elitte broke all theiir own rulles  with luxury holildas in Florids sn in luxury restaurants and paries like Obama's birthdy party attended b over 600 people at his home in Martha's Vineyard island,

*     Dr Faucci was aoointed s advisr of Biden as his WH advisor ob Heakth issues, shich was the same as as using a wolf to guard a chicken cage.   He as summoned  a numbe of times to apper in Sen ate and House hearings - especilly about his role in funding the gain-in fuction research in Wuhan and he started a long list of lies about his and other people's role in that funding.  He kept finding new lies eveyime when quartioned and in the end he resigbed from wis Whirtehouse jobn and his bureaicrtic job he held in  Septembe 2023 at the age of 85 years.    He was reported to the Attorney General for prosecution as to lying under oath to  Congress - but was protected by Biden and Garland. 

*      Problems developed as to the compulsory vaccine issue  implemented by the Biden Administration and in the course of evidents 60 000 soldiers and tens of housands of  nutsing staff were fired  a result,   The army member were particulaly badly treated before they were fired,   As a result the army got into trouble when they could not recrute suficient people to serve in  te miitary they offered the 60 000 soldiers a return to the army they turned it down totally = once btten twice shy.  

*     Trumps major problem in the whole issue was to help and promote a vaccine that did not prevent people fom getting infected and did zero to prevent elderly people from dying when they got infected,    What was worse was that the Hospitals got government grants in the case of handling of Covid cases - so they inflate the deaths - so nobody know how mny peple acually died from Covid died fom existing morbidities they suffered from alredy.   For instance in 2020 and 2021 there were no flu deats in the usa - whilst in ordinary years there were about 250 000 such deaths in the USA during ordinary years,

I would rather stop talking about BS diostorted by the media about injecting people with bleach - it as a media lie from the beginning.   What was discussed was the need to clean table tops using bleach as a means to reduce infection of people that way.  What the media came up wit was total BS and ordinary people knew it was political BS.    Nbody eve died s  result of using bleach a an injection ption - it w totl BS d lies spred by the media.

So live ith it lies did in thed not worked nd coninuous B S will not save people from being prosecited for a large numbe of offenses that Biden's FBI nd Justice Departments tried to cover up.    It is bound to be investigted in ful now and  people like Faucci - the above ldoes not include Biden since his mentaal state is so poor o court would fi him guilty of offemces - te res like Pelosi may get wy with it because she became  mental ifiot s well  basically die to be drunk most of the time.   

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The suffering voters knew exactly what Biden did badly and they claimed Trump's election would benefit thema nd the country.   They knew what ahppened when they vted for tTrump in what they generally called "return to the time Trump was President and BS was limited.    people like Rooinek, BB and Denny suffered as a result of worldwide inflation lagely caused by Biden policies that has world wide consequences,   

All theyc an come up with is emdia criticism by hte leftist media which ey publish on site and is 99% factless BS,     Th fact is all the ourt cases collapsed and if Trump was found guilty of anything he could appeal the BS Charges  - even the two New York cases daing abck to 2017 and was part of the BS the D emocrats tried to use to ndermine the Trump election campaiagn

The one case about fraud insofar as Trumps projects in New York has already gone on appeal to the Federal Court and  although he Judges ahs not reached a decision - their questioning indicated tat the whle case was BS supreme.    In the case of the Hush money trial the Judge concerned - fearing the case was BS that could discredit him totally - now refuse o sentence Trump and has not sentenced him on anyhing.   In reality there was no case at all in that case and a string of judicial misconduct and the Judge knew what happened so he tried to cove up the whole issue - no jail time and no fining was imposed - meaning that no appeal would be jusified,    

One woulda ssume that all the silly "felon" BS would stop,    Because no felony was invovled and the Judge knew it - but obeyed his political bosses and his daughter paid $12 million to do work for  VP Harris' office wil becioem a problem - so no sentence,    So the BS is no over and no felony was in fact punished,    But idiots nd stupidity made people believe media BS propaganda and one must accept that the ree was stupid and beleived the S they come up with.    Theys hould rather start thinking and not come up with streams of media BS.   

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"It was a simple question but none of the TDS'ers could provide anything other than "I don't line Trump"

Yep, that's all I saw

"he strongly advised the Pharma industry they  must develop a vaccine to be used to fight Covid and foced the Health Deprtment to expedite approval"

Spot on Mike

I think people all over the world, just don't really understand how many millions of lives Trump saved just with this one directive alone.

That probably does not include all the people who have been thinking that the vaccines killed people.

"That probably does not include all the people who have been thinking that the vaccines killed people"

And to be fair, it did in some cases... many even quite a lot, due to some adverse reaction.

I was not a fan of the vaccine, never have been, but I do know that without it, and without Trump's insistence on getting a vaccine to market......millions and millions more could have possibly died... of that I have no doubt.

For the greater good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But he has the experience to be independent, not just a creature of his advisors

but in a world of Russian expansion and Chinese threats to consume Taiwan, is US interest in protecting Panama and Greenland really that crazy.

It is another liberal trait: the ability to waddle in contradiction. Liberals probably no longer pay attention, their brains are now selected to be immune to contradicitions. Their brains are wired that way.

The very independent Trump is going to expand because others do it, this is how you show independent will. More about it one day as it is very funny.

Since residents in here are supposedly africans, the bit would have been even more convincing if that liberal pundit included the incredible threat of Rwandan expansion in Congo. Which makes the current era a very dangerous era.

And notice the superficy, Canada, Panama canal, the greenland.... peanuts compared to the superficy of Taiwan or any territory eyed by Russia.

It is understood why people are so enamoured with liberal societies: in what other societies could one make a living spitting out such non sense? Liberal societies reward emptiness.

"For the greater good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Lol, people were forced an experimental treatment/vaccine...some died...for the greater good...greater good my fat arse...there is no greater good coming from forced medical procedures...it's a step backwards for human society...all decisions made from fear are most likely the wrong ones...fear is the path to the Dark Side.

Question...why would peoples fear of Covid 19 be any more a path to the Dark Side, then your fear of the vaccines?

Have you not traded one fear for another?

people were forced an experimental treatment/vaccine...

Thank vok it wasn't any of f'wit Trump's daft ideas.

460 × 570

Hysteria here’s the difference. I did say January 6th was a disqualifying event. I have criticized his cabinet picks. I don’t support vilifying  illegal immigrants. Trump was never my candidate.

But Russian collusion was political assassination and he was never given a reasonable chance to govern. He and his team did a brilliant job with the Covid economy, only for it to be screwed up by Biden handing out money exactly when inflation was gathering strength.

Personally I don’t believe anybody could make good on all the campaign promises he made. But the country needs him to be given a fair shot and if he bats 50% it will be way ahead of Biden who has left a mess behind.

Is the penny beginning to drop?

"Question...why would peoples fear of Covid 19 be any more a path to the Dark Side, then your fear of the vaccines?

Have you not traded one fear for another?"

I try not to make decisions based on fear...there's a difference between fear and caution...and I definitely don't force anyone else to do something they don't want to do just to appease my fears...

Regarding the vaccines and their purported positive effect - I wonder what the state of natural immunity was at the time vaccines came in use to any significance. How many people already had natural immunity - I'd venture it was the majority. 

Natural immunity was just tossed out the window during the pandemic by the vaccine peddlers, that's a fact, despite studies showing it was every bit as effective if not more so than vaccines (example Oct 2022 Journal of Clinical Medicine - "this extensive narrative review regarding a vast number of articles highlighted the valuable protection induced by the natural immunity after COVID-19, which seems comparable or superior to the one induced by anti-SARS-CoV-2 vaccination".)

Forcing people who already had natural immunity to be vaccinated was and always will be an absolute nonsense.

Masks are super effective

Wehe You're sure about that, careful now, it's not according to your master. Best you snatch up before it's too late.

The "experts" kinda let us down really.

Yes. Like the 6 feet distancing. Not to mention all the negative talk and blaming of the unvaxxed this, the unvaxxed that, when "unvaccinated" in no way, shape of form meant "without immunity".

But Russian collusion was political assassination and he was never given a reasonable chance to govern. He and his team did a brilliant job with the Covid economy, only for it to be screwed up by Biden handing out money exactly when inflation was gathering strength.

Stop holding up Russian collusion as an excuse for his political assassination, fact is he brought it on himself, he was too dumb and arrogant for his own good, anyone with the smarts plays the media, it's a matter of ends and means, no-one in his right mind takes on the media with the hope of winning. I don't know of anyone who has.As for Biden screwing up the economy....that's a highly debatable subject and I won't take your word on it, the economy might already have been screwed.

I know you, on a different agenda you'd decimate Trump....you have with others who had a lot less of his sins.

So there, I await your name calling and insults.

As an edit there is a stench about when he says he gets on very well with Vladi.....Vladi the murderer.

Got that?

I'd argue that Trump shone a light on just how corrupt and propaganda-filled the media is.

...and it worked out perfectly because since he started calling them out, their influence has only waned. 

Just one more massive win that the Big Don brought.

No?

Okay, fine, then explain this...

You are free to believe the BS youi are fed by he media - but real facts count for nothing and BS reign supreme in your case.  .   

Hysteria….when Plum is saying masks are super effective, he’s being sarcastic….read his post again. And I love your ‘wehe’….such a Pot Pot bunny. Do I take it we can now expect ‘wehe’ rather than the floor beating laughter?

On to the substance. Trump’s whole Presidency was a legal attack, from beginning to end. That robbed him of legitimacy domestically and especially internationally, Russian collusion was just the start.

As for getting on with Putin. Would you prefer he was incapable of talking to him, like Biden? A bit of dialogue and a few smart concessions could have avoided the destruction of the Ukraine. 

The vaccines were over sold. Many people believed they were immune to Covid after getting the shot. It wasn’t  that kind of vaccine. It was like  a flu shot, which protects you if the particular strain that emerges was the target of that generation of the vaccine. But the vaccine  also made getting the disease less radical.

Covid peaked at the beginning of 2022. Vaccinations peaked a few months before that. Death rates dropped dramatically  after that. It looks consistent, but natural immunity played a roll. By now half the world’s pop has probably had covid. It was much less in 2022. So would natural immunity alone have provided protection. It’s very effective if the first infection isn’t too severe. 

Here’s the Lancet:

‘ For someone previously infected with COVID-19, their risk of hospitalization or death is 88% lower for at least 10 months compared to those who had not been previously infected, according to a systematic review and meta-analysis published in The Lancet

(link is external). 

The analysis also suggests that the level and duration of protection against reinfection, symptomatic disease and severe illness is at least on a par with that provided by two doses of the mRNA vaccines (Moderna, Pfizer-BioNtech) for ancestral, Alpha, Delta and Omicron BA.1 variants. The study did not include data on infection from Omicron XBB and its sublineages.

“Vaccination is the safest way to acquire immunity, whereas acquiring natural immunity must be weighed against the risks of severe illness and death associated with the initial infection,” says lead author Dr Stephen Lim from the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) at the University of Washington’s School of Medicine, USA. [1]’

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My conclusion is the vaccine played a significant role in providing protection. And given this virus remains with us and can mutate into nastier variants, I hope they continue to evolve the vaccine. If it turns out the virus follows the path of self preservation and weakens over time..,there is no downside to insurance.

"On to the substance. Trump’s whole Presidency was a legal attack, from beginning to end"

Anyone who thinks differently to this is delusional

And yet Putin never launched his attack on the Ukraine during Trump’s presidency and started it about as early as would have been feasible after Biden became president. You underestimate how much of politics is personal.  I get it, it’s inconvenient to think Trump could have talked Putin out of attacking Ukraine. Hell his sheer unpredictability could have been enough,

You didn't answer my question. What bit of dialogue and smart concessions could Biden have offered that would of prevented Putin from invading?

Its all very well saying Trump could of stopped it had he only been President. How exactly?

"I get it, it’s inconvenient to think Trump could have talked Putin out of attacking Ukraine. Hell his sheer unpredictability could have been enough,"

It was enough for four years all over the globe...no serious new wars and some peace initiatives in the ME...all coincidentally according to the rabid never Trump horde...

It was enough for four years all over the globe...no serio us new wars and some peace initiatives in the ME...all coincidentally according to the rabid never Trump horde...

We don’t know ‘exactly how’….it could have been a private undertaking on the role of NATO or a public demonstration of friendship. There was no over arching need for Russia to invade. It came after many years of Western disrespect towards Russia, most notably at the Sochi  Olympic  games.

Trump would have regarded it as a major failure of diplomacy for Russia to have invaded Ukraine and done his best to resolve the matter. It would have been a challenge to his status as the great negotiator. 

Did Biden make any attempt stop Russia? Public threats should have been private threats and private undertakings need the willingness to actually meet. 

Biden blew the whole thing, this is something Trump would have been well suited to attempt. And while I full endorse the support for Ukraine, their country and so many lives have been destroyed. The cost of incompetency in the White House.

"Did Biden make any attempt stop Russia? Public threats should have been private threats and private undertakings need the willingness to actually meet. "

So inept,  it almost looked deliberate...

We don’t know ‘exactly how’….it could have been a private undertaking on the role of NATO or a public demonstration of friendship.

Exactly you don't know. Its just this combination of a cult like belief that Trump's sheer presence can prevent bad things happening around the world and an American centric view of the world that everything that happens around the world is dependent on America's actions.

As for a private undertaking on the role of NATO, haven't you figured it out by now that Putin's grievances were all just a bullshit excuse to invade. 

And a public demonstration of friendship...so what Putin threatens to invade a country and America's response is to say nice things about Russia, well unless the plan was to try to make Putin die from uncontrollable laughter what an utterly ridiculous weak sauce response.

It came after many years of Western disrespect towards Russia, most notably at the Sochi  Olympic  games.

What is it with you and this Sochi nonsense, some western media criticism of Russia's treatment of LGBT people, along with allegations of cost overruns and corruption, plus a couple of western leaders deciding not to attend the games is zeo justification for a war on Ukraine a country that wasn't involved in the alleged disrespect, and I say alleged because similar criticism's were leveled against Qatar in 2022 and South Africa in 2010. Oh look those countries didn't invade their neighbors how about that.

Trump would have regarded it as a major failure of diplomacy for Russia to have invaded Ukraine and done his best to resolve the matter.

Given Trump's record with Putin, he could just have easily said, not my problem, not America's problem and left Ukraine to fend for itself.

It would have been a challenge to his status as the great negotiator.

Trump is only a great negotiator in his own head and the mind of his supporters.

Did he get NATO allies to spend more on defense. Nope.

Did he negotiate successfully with North Korea. Nope.

Did he force Iran back to the negotiating table after pulling out of the Iran nuclear deal. Nope.

Did his tariffs force China to change his trade policies. Nope

When he pulled out of the INF nuclear missile treaty with Russia, was he able to negotiate a new deal. Nope.

Did his deal of the century between Israel and Palestine get taken up. Nope.

Did Biden make any attempt stop Russia? Public threats should have been private threats and private undertakings need the willingness to actually meet.

Private undertakings and meetings to say what exactly? That America would go to war on Ukraine's behalf if Russia invaded. That might have come as a shock to the American public if war broke out.

Biden blew the whole thing, this is something Trump would have been well suited to attempt. And while I full endorse the support for Ukraine, their country and so many lives have been destroyed. The cost of incompetency in the White House.

Well suited to cave to Putin. Trump was the reason that aid package to Ukraine got delayed for months, costing Ukraine lives and territory...yet you think this is the man to stand up to Putin?

The ironic thing is that Trump's position on Ukraine coupled with the mere possibility that he could win the White House again, likely encouraged Putin not to negotiate for the last year or so. Why negotiate with the west now when you can wait for Trump to come along and give you more favorable terms.

No one in the west wanted Trump anywhere near Ukraine.

The cost of incompetency in the White House.

As for incompetency in the white White House, just wait another 6 days and the clown show will start up all over again.

"Given Trump's record with Putin, he could just have easily said, not my problem, not America's problem and left Ukraine to fend for itself."

LOL!!!

Was it necessary for Trump to criticize Ukraine's missile strike in Russia?

Or Trump now negating any prospects of  Ukraine joining NATO ?

A reminder to Putin .................. 'Vova, I'm on your side' ?

According to The Guardian the games were more politicised than the before, serving as shameless promotion of Putin's Russia.[137] While former world chess champion and Russian opposition figure Garry Kasparov said that game bolstered Putin's cult of personality.[138]

Comedians and satirical newspapers took advantage of the widespread pessimism. On 8 February, The Daily Currant posted a story alleging that a man responsible for operating the Olympic rings during the opening ceremony, which famously suffered a technical glitch, had been "found dead...with multiple stab wounds."[139] The fictional story went viral on social media.[140] On 20 February, luger Kate Hansenposted a well-publicized video on her Twitter account allegedly showing a wolf roaming the hallways of her Sochi hotel; it was later revealed to be a hoax staged by talk show host Jimmy Kimmel and Hansen. USA Luge officials distanced themselves from the incident, with spokesman Sandy Caligiore stating, "I can tell you that our organization is not happy with the incident. That's not USA Luge speaking."[141] Throughout the duration of the Olympics the @SochiProblems Twitter account had nearly 100,000 more followers than the official IOC feed @Sochi2014.[142] The blog GossipSochi.com was later set up to debunk @SochiProblems postings, with many revealed to be fakes.[143][144]

In an interview, IOC supervisor Jean-Claude Killy stated that several hotels intended to house the foreign media were unfinished by the opening of the Olympics because officials realized "too late" that construction had fallen behind.[145] According to David Wallechinsky, president of the International Society of Olympic Historians, many of the incidents early in the Olympics were "standard problems" and were not unique to Sochi. Wallechinsky further noted, "When you mess up with the media before the Games start, you're going to have a problem."[142] In an interview that aired on Russian television on 24 February, Vladimir Putin opined that much of the criticism stemmed from rivalry in international politics, saying "There is a cohort of critics that are far from sport, they are engaged in a competitive struggle in international politics. They used this Olympic project to achieve their own objectives in the field of anti-Russian propaganda."[146]