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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
09 May 2021, 03:42
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09 May 2021, 03:42#1
NZ welcomes US aboard Christchurch Call
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The United States is joining the "Christchurch Call", New Zealand's attempt to rein in extremist and terrorist content on the internet.

Founded by Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and French President Emmanuel Macron in the wake of the 2019 Christchurch mosques terrorist attack, the US previously declined to join the international agreement, citing freedom of speech concerns.

In a statement issued on Saturday morning (AEST), White House press secretary Jen Psaki said it retained some concerns while joining up.

"Countering the use of the internet by terrorists and violent extremists to radicalize and recruit is a significant priority for the United States," she said.

"In joining the Christchurch Call, the United States will not take steps that would violate the freedoms of speech and association protected by the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution."

Signatories to the call will meet virtually next week in the second anniversary summit.

The Call, which counts Australia, the EU, Japan and India among its foundation supporters, is Ms Ardern's flagship foreign policy.

Facebook, Google, Twitter and Microsoft have also signed on.

The Call aims to bring together countries and global tech giants to stop the spread of extremist content online, aiming to prevent similar attacks as the 2019 Christchurch Mosques attack.

The man responsible for that massacre, Australian-born terrorist Brenton Tarrant, was radicalised online and livestreamed his crimes on social media.

Ms Ardern welcomed the United States' reversal.

"This announcement is a formalisation of that relationship and a commitment for us to work even more closely on eliminating terrorist and violent extremist content online," she said.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
09 May 2021, 05:52
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09 May 2021, 05:52#2

So a terrorist incident  by an individual  lunatic is being used as an excuse to censure  all comments based on freedom of speech by ordinary people opposing bribery and corruption as the as is already in practice in the USA;    Any opposition to the regimes in charge becomes unacceptable  and the act is that the ideals may sound ideal - the real  situation  is that it ican easily become a threat  to free speech,

If  elimination of  terrorism  is the objective - fine, bit it has not worked in the past and probably never will,       

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SebPro2,680 posts
09 May 2021, 06:15
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09 May 2021, 06:15#3

Arderne is the West's Weak Woke link...the enemy in disguise, a she wolf in ewe's clothing.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
09 May 2021, 08:43
#4
09 May 2021, 08:43#4

Nice...

Tannie, list for us some extreme views by groups/races that deserve censoring...here, I'll given you the headings...


Whites;

Christians;

Blacks;

BLM;

Muslims;

LGBT;

College professors;


Oooooooooooooooooooooopsie!


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
09 May 2021, 22:17
#5
09 May 2021, 22:17#5

Arderne is the West's Weak Woke link...the enemy in disguise, a she wolf in ewe's mare's clothing.

Fixed 

Haha

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
09 May 2021, 23:14
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09 May 2021, 23:14#6

The mare is a Marxist Globalist loon.

Don't mention free speech, liberty etc to dense it is a hard baked commie who belongs in China with the CCP.

Arderne lives Islam so any actions against Muslims will be merely symbolic.

As for that Globalist rat Macron he has been advised that France is heading towards a civil war. In fact a poll showed 70% of French people thought this is going to hapoen

All because of the Globalist drive for open borders as a key strategy in destroying national identity and the nation state. 

The tide has turned against these scumbags and their agenda is now widely known.

If course the dumbass stinker group have no clue.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 May 2021, 12:25
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10 May 2021, 12:25#7

Please note that this women is also refusing  to work with Australia and other Western Countries when it comes to any spy activity on China.    Obviously thatrefusal flowed from instructions she received from  Beijing,     She obviously will also welcome an effective take-over of New Zealand by China - when she will become a puppet in the China Joe style.          

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
10 May 2021, 13:04
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10 May 2021, 13:04#8
She commands more respect around the world, than any backward redneck. 
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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
10 May 2021, 13:13
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10 May 2021, 13:13#9

Jacinda Ardern always gets the Trumpanzees into a state . . . probably because she's smart, competent, courageous, charming and she serves the people who voted for her rather than herself . . . so pretty much all the things Bozo was not.

Thanks to Ardern, New Zealand has the best record in the world when it comes to controlling Covid-19.

Thanks to Bozo, the USA has the most Covid-19 cases in the world and the most Covid-19 deaths in the world.

Bozo not only thought that Covid-19 was a hoax, not only downplayed it at every opportunity, not only made irresponsible and downright dangerous statements regarding the treatment of Covid-19 (including touting drugs that were ineffective and hazardous and telling his redneck support base to inject themselves with bleach) but when he finally stormed out the White House in a sulky huff after his humiliating loss in the election, he left no vaccine rollout plan to speak of. Absolutely disgraceful behaviour that will probably cost the world millions of lives and trillions of dollars.

Only in the fullness of time will we come to realize just what an unmitigated distaster it was having a stupid, self-serving and conceited fool in the world's most powerful position at a time when the world needed strong leadership more than ever. Had it been Jacinda Ardern in the White House we'd probably all be back to life as normal by now.

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
10 May 2021, 14:04
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10 May 2021, 14:04#10
Covid has exposed how pathetic many of the world's political leaders are. Too many like Trump are not qualified to do the job, and nor do they have the brains or emotional intelligence to be a political leader.
They just enjoy being on TV and are running a big brother reality show presidency. 

Some political leaders like Boris Johnson have made early mistakes with Covid, but at least have improved over time by listening to scientists and experts within various fields.
Others like the Brazil leader and now the Indian leader seemed doomed to failure, by repeating the same mistakes over and over. 

Putin is so corrupt that Russia is the most vaccine-hesitant country in the world. No one trusts him, and it remains to be soon how a gangster can be running a country like Russia. 
His own chief of health stepped down because Putin certified the Russian vaccine as Sputnik, during its phase 2 trials to ensure Russia was the first country to release a vaccine. 
Too many have a dictatorial style of running a country, even if they were elected by hook or by crook. Egomaniacs who run the country like their own personal toy. 

Ardern is easily a better leader than many of the world's political leaders. She has values that people can aspire to and acts as a public servant. The far-right conservatives don't like having a woman in a powerful position, especially as she is doing well. Just like Gretchen Whitmer who was almost kidnapped by the far-right rednecks. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 May 2021, 14:41
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10 May 2021, 14:41#11

The "far right" had Maggie Thatcher long before the female leaders of the political left came along. It's got nothing to do with gender.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
10 May 2021, 15:56
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10 May 2021, 15:56#12

The two brainwashed political illiterates - who know nothing about enything and must follow the leftwing media in the US and claim they are anti-religion are falling for propaganda and that is more than a religion to them then anything else in the world.   The funny part is the useless idiots  has fallen for the crap that is quoted on CNN and that is even more religious to them, than anything they are attacking other people for.  

That is why they believe every disproved lie that ever appeared  on CNN,    They are unable to think for themselves and determine whether the propaganda stories have any substance,   There has been a string of disclosures about what is really going on in the USA and in the world.   

There ne w hero Arden has cut ties with security representatives that spies on countries like China?    Why would a person like that be regarded as a democratically minded supporter.   Fact is she is dependent on the Chinese and they are telling her what to do, - same as their bribed hero  China Joe.    There is no way China Joe cannot listen to this Chinese maters - they have the info that will send him directly to jail  if he disobey their instructions.    In the meantime they publicly shit on him and his administration. and the world has become unstable.  

Look no further than  the China Joe Administration as the most corrupt Government in the world.   They make Jacob Zuma - a real learner - looks like an angel compared to them as real professionals when it comes to wholesale corruption.     The Obama administration showed them the way on how to get away with corruption - capture the FBI and all your shenanigans are covered up totally and  so  as to corrupt the judicial system.                 

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 May 2021, 16:08
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10 May 2021, 16:08#13

So easy to contract TDS yet almost impossible to shake it.

One is so out of it that he compares a 1 billion plus nation of people where many live in ghettos and slums to a place like New Zealand, as regards Covid.

..."but science though."

Hahaha 


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 May 2021, 16:10
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10 May 2021, 16:10#14

Hey VisKop...Please do some memes o f Hunter with the crack pipe and rotting teeth.

Emotional bias?

Lol 

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
10 May 2021, 18:10
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10 May 2021, 18:10#15

To compare Zuma to a competent politician is a joke. 

The criteria for evaluating a political leader is more than just Covid response.
Covid has however made politics much more followed and publicized- and in doing so has exposed how incompetent many political leaders are.
Even just as people they fail and are not presidential - before even then considering capability. 

CNN this, CNN that....Fox News radicalizes simpletons to believe anything and everything... The likes of Dumb Mike can no longer think. 

I am not sure what Biden's son has to do with the discussion. 


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
10 May 2021, 19:11
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10 May 2021, 19:11#16
". . . who know nothing about enything . . ."
Ou Maaik, you're possibly the stupidest person I've ever encountered and you're also a low-life liar, but you do provide some much needed comic relief . . . even if it's always unintentional.
LMAO!
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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
10 May 2021, 20:42
#17
10 May 2021, 20:42#17

"even if it's always unintentional."


Some other unintentional truths are regularly revealed by other posters too...


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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
10 May 2021, 20:44
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10 May 2021, 20:44#18

What kinda parents raise crackheads, is the question, VisKop?

The same kinda parents that use their kids as agents in leveraging political sway into $$$ RE Ukraine, perhaps?

And what kinda media runs cover for these Bozos? Oh, right, the lefty brainwashing type.

You gotta stop with this projecting, ou Vrotus.



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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
10 May 2021, 23:58
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10 May 2021, 23:58#19

Especially for you ButtPlug... 






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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 May 2021, 01:06
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11 May 2021, 01:06#20

SB

You are not aware that when Biden went to China to finalize the Obama abortion of a Trade Deal with China,  he took his son Hunter in Air Force 2  with him.   He claimed he did not know what Hunter negotiated with the Chairman of the Bank of China  - which negotiations  he took part in.   The result  was an investment of $1.5 billion in  Hunter Biden's company to buy shares for them and the shares identified were actually in an armaments  company.   Of that amount of  $1,5  commission amounted  to $150 million was Commission  payable to the Company. and the remainder for the shares to be purchased.     What happened at the factory purchased  by the Chinese was that the day the new Chinese management took over - they sent all the secret designs to Beijing,   That boils down to not only corruption, but also  treason 

Is their proof  of China Joe involved n he crookery?    Sure there is,    Hunter is a druggie fired by the US Navy for being caught with crack,    In his recent book he admitted he still use drugs,    For some reason or other he took his  laptop  to a computer repair workshop  for repairs and never came back to get the repaired laptop.    Before potentially disposing of the computer the workshop owner looked  into the documentation on the computer and was horrified about the content. their were a number of e-mails from China Joe demanding half of the Commission paid.    The Owner duplicated the content and handed the computer to the FBI more than a year ago. because there were prima facie  evidence of criminality on it.   After waiting for 8 months with nothing being heard from the FBI - the owner fearing about potential consequences for him and his family - handed the duplicate he made to the  New York Post.    

After the paper published  some of the content - the newspaper membership of one of the channels were cancelled,    Dead quiet for a while until some members of the RP  ask the FBI about the Hunter Biden Computer and they offered no explanation.  It them came out there are  other duplicates of the contents and the FBI started to search homes to find the  copies.   They found nothing.    The proof of corruption on the computer must essentially be hidden away.

If  you think the Chinese does not know about the above?    They do and that makes Biden their prisoner and puppet.                              .  


                     

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 May 2021, 01:21
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11 May 2021, 01:21#21

To call Biden a competent politician must certainly be a joke    He served as a Senator foe 42 years during which time he produced nothing of value.   The past two months saw the US slipping into chaos  on its southern border,   Ten of thousands lost their jobs and price escalation on a wide range of items started to escalate.    The Chinese and Russian shit on him and his administration and there is nothing he can do about it.    

The stability in the Pacific Rim countries has been disturbed and destabilized  and China is free to do as they please, and that spell danger for countries  that is not under Communist control.                    

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
11 May 2021, 01:53
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11 May 2021, 01:53#22

Most Europeans and many other countries and people, consider Biden to be part of the human race- unlike the con-man Trump. Just as Ronald Regan was respected for being a human being. 

US relations will improve around the world, and this is good for the global economy. Who cares about China and Russia. 

All your stuff about Biden is speculation. Biden Junior appears to have benefited from having a father in politics, but it was not deemed as fraud under past investigations. 

Biden could go down in history as an effective president. It will take at least 2 years to be sure of anything. It will take a while for the Trumpanzees to see this. 



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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
11 May 2021, 03:44
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11 May 2021, 03:44#23

Pearls of wisdom, Sharkbok, you're a breath of fresh air, it's a pleasure reading your posts. Love your contempt for the Murdoch/Trump Rednecks.

PM Jacinda Ardern is class, unassuming and a people person, qualities the hillbilly Redneck Trump doesn't have.

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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
11 May 2021, 07:07
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11 May 2021, 07:07#24

Yea, always a good idea to judge a politician by their "personality" IE their speech writer.

Lol the lefty plankz

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
11 May 2021, 08:24
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11 May 2021, 08:24#25
ButtPlug, I'm not sure if you're just pretending to sound this stupid but it's got nothing to do with Jacinda Ardern's personality or her speechwriter, it's got to so with her accomplishments. She's added 92 000 jobs, reduced poverty, improved education, made medical care more affordable, planted 140 million trees and she's eliminated Covid-19 from New Zealand.
See? Actual achievements . . . and all in stark contrast to your hero Bozo who basically screwed up everything he touched while in office (because he's an incompetent idiot who was conceited enough to think he knew more than his specialist advisors) and who has the personality of a rude, boorish and boastful pig.
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 May 2021, 08:43
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11 May 2021, 08:43#26

Denny

If there is something I hate it is corrupt politicians. irrespective of their political believes,   Take for instance Obama.  When he became Senator in 2004 he declared his total assets he possessed as $100 000,     Four years  in the similar declaration - he declared his total assets as  $3,5 million.  Immediately after his departure from the Presidency he started buying luxury homes to the value of over $32 million  in various  parts of the country.    How do you manage tp accumulate such wealth in twelve years when wealth when his salary in the twelve years he was Senator and President was  less  than  $9 million?    

The media would not even ask questions about the situation and according to then he is a saint,   Biden is equally corrupt - if not more so,   

So how did they do it?    They followed the normal route of corrupting the FBI - who will never investigate what  Obama and Biden was up to,    That is exactly what  happened in the case of Zuma in SA,   He had the Police  and Security on his side - but not the media who exposed corruption, with the previous Public Protector doing an excellent job exposing massive corruption.   In the USA  explicit evidence of corruption  is ignored by the media  when it comes to Democrats.

Biden is a crook - there is no doubt about it.    When his son's company CEO asked him in 2017 how he gets away with it,  his answer was by "plausible denials".    He lied and the media protected him.                          

 You are entitled to your opinion - but I have seen  enough documentary evidence of Biden corruption  to convince me he is crooked as hell.          

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
11 May 2021, 08:48
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11 May 2021, 08:48#27
"If there is something I hate it is corrupt politicians . . ."
Says the blithering idiot who bragged about having dinner with Jacob Zuma and described him as a gentleman and an all round nice guy.
LMAO!
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DennyCaptain12,893 posts
11 May 2021, 08:54
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11 May 2021, 08:54#28

Anyone for a dose of bleach....anyone? "See, I told you I'm smart, they all tell me I should've been a doctor" 



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SebPro2,680 posts
11 May 2021, 09:18
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11 May 2021, 09:18#29

Only 3 politicians I've ever really admired are Churchill (for his courage, ability and wit). Ian Smith (for his courage, integrity and directness) and Maggie Thatcher (for her strength, dignity and basic common sense).

I just don't like any of them...it's a manipulative business and attracts the most dishonest deceits.

Unfortunately that's the way of the world today.

Today I only favour those who have strength and direct action...talk has no value at all.


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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 May 2021, 09:28
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11 May 2021, 09:28#30

I love it when I see totally unsubstantiated evidence of what  the following rubbish you wrote acrtually entail.     

 "Europeans and many other countries and people, consider Biden to be part of the human race- unlike the con-man Trump. Just as Ronald Regan was respected for being a human being."

Let  me be explicit - all the leaders in the world  know that Biden is a corrupt and also stupid idiot - who barely passed his university degree and who they know about how they can use their knowledge to best advantage,     They will play him like a fiddle  - praising him in Public and  extracting benefits for their countries  like they have done to Obama, when the latter's spying on Chancellor Merkel was exposed in 2009;   Merkel dismissed the conduct as childish and nothing else,   She cut the German contribution to NATO to the bone and the USA was forced into funding virtually the whole cost  of NATO.

In terms of the NATO agreement each member country must contribute  3,5% of their total budget to NATO.   When Trump found out that on average the members contribution was less than 1,5% he told the member countries that he will limit the US contribution to  3.5% and that would mean reduction of US troop presence in Europe by 24 000 men.   The NATO members had no option but to comply with the 3.5% clause  - but hated Trump for doing that,

There was a number of other actions Trump  did that was unpopular in Europe - such as putting import duties  on some products while the EU countries  put import duties on US exports,   The leaders of  the EU countries  knew Trump would act if they do things to the detriment of the USA. 

They also know what Biden is up to  and they will use it to their advantage.    Not an iota of respect - rather  knowing Biden is a weakling and corrupt to boot  they will take maximum  advantage of the situation.   A typical example  is the recent sanctions against Russia based on a lie that Russia payed a booty to the Taliban to kill  US troops in Afghanistan,    The secret services in Europe knew that it is a lie and said so in the past.   The EU countries are strengthening trade with Russia and not applying the sanctions  Biden imposed,

So respect  count is ZERO  - disdain is 100%,                        

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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
11 May 2021, 13:03
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11 May 2021, 13:03#31
@CleverWanker, you do not live in the US, so you need to start thinking like that. While you are a Trumpanzee, you are not American. 

The EU would have started blocking US companies if they continued to pay no corporate tax as would other countries. This would have increased trade wars and caused the world economy to decline. 
Biden's global corporate tax will rebuild relations with the EU and other countries. South Africa for example could collect tax on Big Tech companies, instead of it ending up in a tax haven.
It will end the trade wars and create a level playing field to stop tax havens undercutting other countries. 
The US has started more wars, so it makes sense they pay more money to NATO. 
However, the EU should be covering the costs of their own disputes. 
The reality is the far right would not even acknowledge if Biden does a good job. Too much ideological bias. You lot prefer a Trump dictator style of the president as you are similar to the Arabs. 

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Stavanger1Pro4,532 posts
11 May 2021, 13:40
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11 May 2021, 13:40#32

Mike stop projecting your view onto world leaders and go fact check your positions.

Merkel did not dismiss America spying on her as childish. She called it unacceptable and expelled the CIA Berlin station chief.

She cut the German contribution to NATO to the bone and the USA was forced into funding virtually the whole cost  of NATO.

She did not cut Germany's contribution to NATO.

https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/pdf_2019_06/20190625_PR2019-069-EN.pdf

America comes no where close to paying for virtually the whole cost of NATO, it pays around 22% of the cost of it.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-44717074

In terms of the NATO agreement each member country must contribute  3,5% of their total budget to NATO.

Wrong the agreement was that NATO countries would commit to spending 2% of their GDP on defense.

 When Trump found out that on average the members contribution was less than 1,5% he told the member countries that he will limit the US contribution to  3.5% and that would mean reduction of US troop presence in Europe by 24 000 men.   The NATO members had no option but to comply with the 3.5% clause  - but hated Trump for doing that,
You're getting mixed up. The 3.5% you keep referring was American defense spending in total in 2018, not just its NATO commitments. American spends vastly more on defense than other NATO counties but much of that money goes to non NATO deployments like South Korea, Japan and the middle east where as virtually all of the defense spending in European NATO member states goes to NATO. European members of NATO had actually started to increase their defense spending budgets in 2014 in response to Russia aggression in the Ukraine.

Trump exaggerated at the time claiming defense spending in the US was over 4% and was slightly off in his estimation of some European countries defense budgets. It could be argued that he succeed in getting other NATO countries to spend more and to match the US contribution to NATO while America's contribution to NATO would come down. So for example America will contribute 16% of NATO's budget down from 22% while Germany will match them going from 14% to 16%. However it doesn't seem to anything significantly more than what European NATO members previously agreed to do and none of these countries have committed to matching America's GPD expenditure on defense.
As for hating Trump, most European leader strongly disliked the man, the spat over NATO contributions may have contributed to their negative view of him but their was numerous other things they disliked about him.

There was a number of other actions Trump  did that was unpopular in Europe - such as putting import duties  on some products while the EU countries  out import duties on US exports,   The leaders of  the EU countries  knew Trump would act if they do things to the detriment of the USA.

Trump started a trade war with the EU putting tariffs on EU products  and accused them of being currency manipulators.  He reneged on the Iran he signed with several European countries. He withdrew from the Paris climate agreement. He leaned towards the UK side in Brexit negations irking the bulk of EU member states. The UK government laughed at him when he suggested they should sue the EU in the Brexit negotiations. He's ridiculous behavior toward Denmark over them rejecting the idea of the US purchasing Greenland.  His attempts to bully European leaders like May and Merkel in one on one conversations. His ignorance on European affairs, on a meeting with the Irish Prime Minister in comments on border issues in Ireland arising from Brexit he compared the border situation there to the American-Mexican border and commented "I think it will all work out very well, and also for you with your wall, your border," before the rather uncomfortable looking Irish PM had to gently remind him that Ireland did not want a border under any circumstance. Other examples of his ignorance would be him not realizing that the the UK is a nuclear power and that Finland is not part of Russia. Or that bizarre time he was watching cable TV and started tweeting the next day about terrible things that where happening in Sweden to which the Swedes where like what the hell are you talking about?. His buddy buddy act with Putin didn't exactly endear him to European leaders either, Trump praising Putin the man behind the invasion and partial occupation of a European state and who's agents had conducted assassinations in European states via the use of chemical nerve agents.

They also know what Biden is up to  and they will use it to their advantage.    Not an iota of respect - rather  knowing Biden is a weakling and corrupt to boot  they will take maximum  advantage of the situation.   A typical example  us the recent sanctions against Russia based on a lie that Russia payed a booty to the Taliban to kill  US troops in Afghanistan,    The secret services in Europe knew that it is a lie and said so in the past.   The EU countries are strengthening trade with Russia and not applying the sanctions  Biden imposed,
Sorry but most European leaders don't operate on conspiracy theories (Viktor Orban would be an exception) . They have far more respect for Biden than Trump who was just seen as an awful leader and an awful individual. Even quite right wing groups in Europe where not overly fond of Trump as while they may have agreed with some of his policies his bed side manners where consider far too distasteful. 
Care to provide a source on where European intelligence agencies said the Russia bounties on US troops was not true/accurate?
As for EU countries increasing trade with Russia, again can you provide evidence?.  You could argue the German's are with Nord Stream 2 but on the whole all I see is European nations renewing sanctions and actually adding more over the Navalny situation in conjunction with Washington.

So respect  count is ZERO  - disdain is 100%,
The disdain was for Trump. With Biden they can have a working relationship with someone who isn't a temperamental, self aggrandizing idiot who was completely out of his depth on the world stage.
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
11 May 2021, 14:55
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11 May 2021, 14:55#33

Haha RooiTit

What did Trumps job numbers look like?

As i recall, they were pretty stellar, accross a much more complex country and with a population over 60 times the size?

$trangely, you never wanted to talk about those?

Wanna do so now?

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
11 May 2021, 15:15
#34
11 May 2021, 15:15#34
ButtPlug, I was responding to your stupid and childish comment that Jacinda Ardern is judged only on her personality and I presented you with a bunch of facts that contradicted your silly little notion and made you look like the clown you are. Now, instead of wiping all the egg off your face, here you are whining about Bozo's employment numbers as if they have anything to do with the topic or the fact that you made a dick of yourself . . . again!
Before you go off on one of your self-righteous little tantrums and start squealing about the naughty people who don't answer your questions (which are invariably irrelevant and poorly phrased - often not even posed as questions), let me just set you strainght. There are only two numbers that are relevant when it comes to your hero Bozo . . .
One: The number of terms he served.
Two: The number of times he was impeached.
Run along now . . .
PS ButtPlug, you might find this interesting. Here's a short excerpt before the egg blurs your vision:
"That means that Trump will become the first post–World War II president to see employment fall during his presidency. It last occurred when Herbert Hoover left office in 1933 amid the early years of the Great Depression"
LMAO!
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PlumCaptain21,007 posts
11 May 2021, 16:09
#35
11 May 2021, 16:09#35

How'd his job numbers look though, Rooi?

Only because, by your own admission, it appears to be a valuable metric?

Were they;

A) Poor

B) Average

C) Stellar


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SebPro2,680 posts
11 May 2021, 17:55
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11 May 2021, 17:55#36

Storms raging in teacups...patronising the dregs of the world. Sadly pathetic.


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sharkbokCaptain23,205 posts
11 May 2021, 19:01
#37
11 May 2021, 19:01#37

How ButtPlug pictures  Ardern...


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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
11 May 2021, 19:41
#38
11 May 2021, 19:41#38
ButtPlug, slow down. Try to absorb what's been said before shooting your load in another premature ejaculation.
Just to repeat what's already been posted . . . 
That means that Trump will become the first post–World War II president to see employment fall during his presidency. It last occurred when Herbert Hoover left office in 1933 amid the early years of the Great Depression

The first president since the Great Depression to leave office with worse employment than when he started his term. Let that sink in. Digest the information before you start squawking and squealing.
To answer your question, I wouldn't rate that as poor, I'd rate that as terrible or worse.
CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
11 May 2021, 19:57
#39
11 May 2021, 19:57#39

Stav

Do you think it was acceptable that  Obama used to spy on Merkel?    Do not feel alone - they spied on the American  citizens as well,    Remember Edward Snowden - he exposed the whole system and had to flee to Russia to be safe.     However, Mertel in one of her remarks said it was childish and she did take counter-measures that did not benefit the USA at all..   The easiest of those were to cut the budgetary allocation for NATO because the USA would be forced to find the resultant shortfall.         

I  had a look at the document issued  NATO during  the years between   2012 and date  and it was clear that in the years up to 2014  the  European  and Canadian  contribution was way below what it should have been  and the same applied in the years before  2012.    In 2015  Trump threatened to take action of he is selected and  the  graph showed that for the first time in years the contribution was  above the zero level.    Trump did threaten NATO members with  withdrawal of troops   from Europe and the underfunding of  NATO was implemented in 2017.  

In terms of the Agreement and taking into account TMF rules on budgetting the figure of 3,5% of the budget equates to 2% of GDP. 

"European members of NATO had actually started to increase their defense spending budgets in 2014 in response to Russia aggression in the Ukraine." 

Not according to the graph  provided by NATO  -   by 2016  for the first time the contributions went above the  zero level - the war in Ukraine was over by then,

 Trump being unpopular amongst EU leaders  is understandable  because for years the European countries screwed the USA in all possible ways imaginable and got away with it,   But think of the way the USA  had to protect the oil trade if the EU countries with the ME because they and no means to protect it themselves,   Germany and a host of other countries are dependent  on Russia for gas and oil needs and the undermine the sanctions that they want the USA to apply to Russia - while they undermine the sanctions  through the gas and oil trade.

There ere  serious questions about the Paris Climate Agreement and the fact that it in practice produced nothing at all.     Even without the applications of a treaty  emissions in the  USA was drastically reduced from 2016 until 2019 without damaging the US economy.   Some people love treaties of a theoretical nature -  but the countries like China  and India contributing  more to air pollution than  the  West did, will not implement anything to their economic detriment.   The Treaty with  lots of high words and zero in contributing to reduction of air pollution.

As to the Iran Treaty it was worthless for the  signees and Iran benefited from it hugely.   hey started proxy wars in Syria and Yemen and  moved their uranium into army basis and nobody could inspect anything there.     Was it worth anything  to make the world  being safer? NO,   the real beneficiaries were only  Iran that exceeded the enrichment levels and the corrupt US politicians  who got a kickback from it.   

What trade war are you talking about?     There were no such thing.    There were EU country products going into the US without any import duty - bu t the issue was not replicated in the EU - where countries charged import duties on US products.     All that Trump said was no more,    If the EU countries do that so would the USA.    A trade war  goes much wider than the minor issue of import duties.

Trump was the President  of the USA and responsible  for the advancement of the  interests  of all its people - he was not the Godfather of Europe.     If the EU leaders think that is wrong they are welcome to his successor  - the weak and corrupt Biden.                                                  

PL
PlumCaptain21,007 posts
11 May 2021, 20:01
#40
11 May 2021, 20:01#40

This guy.

Trump had the best employment rates since the 60s.

But you give him a "worse than poor" rating on the basis of a shut down economy during Covid. 

It would be really great, however impossible, for someone on your side to make good point once in a while.




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