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So much for the CIA blowing up Nord Stream…it was a Ukranian heroine

Started by Mozart17 REPLIES263 VIEWS· 13 Jun 2026, 17:06
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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
13 Jun 2026, 17:06#1

From the WSJ:


But German prosecutors now allege that Nord Stream was destroyed by Ukrainian civilian divers, who sailed on a small yacht called Andromeda and dove with bombs during a storm.


The sabotage team was just seven people, including a skipper, an explosives expert and four deep-sea divers, according to the findings of German investigators and people who participated in the planning of the attack. The crew obtained forged European IDs and posed as a group of scuba diving enthusiasts on a yachting trip.

A yacht called Andromeda was rented from a company in Rostock, on Germany’s Baltic shore, according to German investigators. It set sail from the German island of Rügen, headed for the middle of the Baltic.

The divers reached their target on the morning of September 11. As the skipper stopped the vessel, the roar of the diesel engine turned into a murmur, according to the Ukrainian military officers, who were in touch with the crew while they were at sea. The group could hear the hissing of the wind

and the creaking of the ropes running down from the mast.

Back on the boat, several divers were seasick.


Rain blurred the horizon into a wall of gray. The skipper wondered whether conditions were too dangerous. Only the female diver was undeterred—once they reached the bottom, it would be easy, a fun ride like always, she said. It was then that she asked the group to let her dive alone.


The men were shamed into action by her boldness, according to those who planned the attack. In the end, they planted eight bombs by Sept. 23.

The blasts came three days later. The event was registered by seismic devices nearly a thousand miles away, as far as Sweden’s polar region, according to the Swedish seismologist Björn Lund.












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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
13 Jun 2026, 18:10#2

It was Greta... Atlhough this is old news.




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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
13 Jun 2026, 18:58#3

"Heroin" is a highly addictive drug.


"Heroine" is a female hero.

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
13 Jun 2026, 19:29#4

Thanks for that, I trust you will now be correcting your mate Stav’s every post, just to be consistent.

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
13 Jun 2026, 20:39#5

Well Stav doesn't run around correcting other people's grammar or spelling all the time, does he?

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
14 Jun 2026, 00:57#6

Ah I see…..got it. He is a Mr Contrary, but not about grammar so that gets him off the hook. Or perhaps you just don’t want to embarrass him because you are both on the same page politically?

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
14 Jun 2026, 01:18#7

Hang on . . . did you just say Stav is the contrary one? Not you?


LMAO!



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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
14 Jun 2026, 02:11#8

Well If you mechanically agree with everything he writes, it’s unlikely you will see his persistent, tedious and generally discredited fact checks as contrary. There is that,


And also the majority of these fact Checks are AI generated, something you claimed to vehemently dislike, except when they come from the Mick.


Are you sure your deep admiration for his woke positions isn’t distorting your views.



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Plum
Captain21,007 posts
14 Jun 2026, 10:08#9

Would be interesting to re-visit some of the posts about this from back then.


I'm guessing there might be a few red faces.


Perhaps there's a lesson in always allowing objective fact to dominate thinking on a matter. In the presence of none, some, the majority or all of the facts, is there ever a better tool than being guided by objectivity and applying it logically?


I can't think of a better way of future proofing opinions. Even if one ends up being incorrect, at least it's possible to show how a logical and unemotional track led you to the wrong answer. Which, one would assume, is the most forgivable of intellectual crimes.


But that is entirely different to simply taking a decision on a matter on the basis of an emotional outcome you'd like to see materialise. Indefensible, and embarrassing, once the truth eventually comes out.


I suppose the trick is in being able to identify when you are merely convincing yourself that you are being objective and logical versus when you actually are being objective and logical.


I suspect that's where most of us fall down.


...and now I'm going to enter this into chat and see what tests it can create for this type of self diagnosis.


There goes my Sunday morning. Damn this forum and damn Ko!

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
14 Jun 2026, 11:49#10

". . . his persistent, tedious and generally discredited fact checks as contrary."


Again, are you not confusing him with you?


As for AI, who was listing all Bozo's alleged achievements just yesterday using AI?


I didn't bother reading it. For the record, I never read any AI copy and pastes. I skip them.

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
14 Jun 2026, 11:50#11

Plum, speaking of Ko, the next book is progressing again (well it was until the World Cup started) but it's going to be a novel length book this time so be patient.

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
14 Jun 2026, 18:47#12

You didn’t bother reading them…..I’m not surprised. Why take in a few facts that might actually contradict your beliefs. I have no problem using AI as a source of information, resisting that is truly ignorant. But it is used so much more effectively if activated by an original thought, something your mate rarely produces.

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
14 Jun 2026, 18:49#13

On the subject of Ko, how are the Amazon sales going?

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Stavanger1
Pro4,532 posts
14 Jun 2026, 19:15#14

I see I'm clearly still living rent free up in that head of yours. It's pretty empty in there though.

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
14 Jun 2026, 20:01#15

That’s a good example of what I’m talking about….probably the third time you have used exactly that phrase. And of course it’s a phrase in common usage. Try ever so hard to come up with something original.


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Stavanger1
Pro4,532 posts
14 Jun 2026, 20:19#16

And of course it’s a phrase in common usage


And a very apt one in your case.

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
14 Jun 2026, 20:34#17

Okay, so tell us about your academic achievements


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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
14 Jun 2026, 21:53#18

C’mon don’t be afraid….anybody who was convinced the French gift to the US was $300 trillion when the value of the country is only $180 trillion has to have had an exceptional academic career,

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