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Speaker McCarthy agrees to see Ashley Babbits mother

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Mar 2023, 10:03
#1
03 Mar 2023, 10:03#1

Ashley Babbits was shot in cold blood a Capitol. POLICE officer. 

Hopefully McCarthy will change his prior stance and justice will.be done. Has McCarthy changed his mind. 


McCarthy to meet Babbits mother.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Mar 2023, 10:33
#2
03 Mar 2023, 10:33#2

George Floyd's killer goes to jail and Ashley Bobbitt's murderer gets a medal...how the world has changed.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
03 Mar 2023, 10:47
#3
03 Mar 2023, 10:47#3

Ashli Babbit was shot in the shoulder by law enforcement officers as she tried to illegally gain entry to the Capitol building. She later died of her injury.

I'm sure she was a decent enough person and probably didn't deserve to die, but she was dumb enough to be part of the frothing horde that was incited by the fat bloated pig, she knew the police were armed and she knew what she was doing was illegal.

Sad and regrettable but only a fool would think she was killed in cold blood or that the policeman who shot her was a murderer.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Mar 2023, 10:54
#4
03 Mar 2023, 10:54#4

I've seen the video...there was no reason to shoot her, she wasn't endangering anyone...breaking and entering shouldn't deserve an instant death sentence. 

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Beeno1Captain40,032 posts
03 Mar 2023, 13:45
#5
03 Mar 2023, 13:45#5

Capitol Police Officer Michael Byrd shot Ashley Babbit in cold blood as the video evidence clearly shows. She is a small woman and was unarmed and hurting NOBODY. 

The evidence grows that the Jan 6th operation was an entrapment scheme.  Video evidence already available is sufficient to prove th is. Doubtless more is on its way.

Oinker plummets new depths! Up your game Oinker. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Mar 2023, 15:02
#6
03 Mar 2023, 15:02#6

"The evidence grows that the Jan 6th operation was an entrapment scheme. "

Who opened the brass doors?

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Mar 2023, 16:52
#7
03 Mar 2023, 16:52#7

So beeenshit you are obviously  anti stand your ground laws that exists in many states.

You know the one, someone is breaking into your home/business and you are entitled to shot to kill even if they haven't physically assaulted you yet. Plenty of examples of this where the defender is applauded and not charged.

Care to point out the difference, can't see where the police couldn't think that they were safe with them being outnumber 100 to one.

Waiting for the mental gymnastics to start, go my score cards ready

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sharkbokCaptain23,201 posts
03 Mar 2023, 18:21
#8
03 Mar 2023, 18:21#8
She should be pitied for being dumb enough to believe Trump's BS. The conservatives with brains knew all along it was BS. 
Perhaps the police officer could have fired a warning shot first of all. That might have deterred people, especially those that were just caught up in the moment (e.g. not members of Proud Boys)
Although she was a former army person, she should know more than anyone that you can't storm congress - a government building, during the legal transfer of power. That is domestic terrorism. 
A police officer had already been crushed to death in a door, there had been shots fired earlier in the building, and politicians at this stage were on the ground hiding from possible bullets. 
A hangman noose with people chanting to hang Mike Pence was on display.

The problem is that it was a mix of people. Some were non-violent people, but others were the likes of Proud Boys. 




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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Mar 2023, 18:35
#9
03 Mar 2023, 18:35#9

If it had been Antifa (who I don't  support either) beenshit would be screaming for a death toll in the thousands and the remainder to be put to death.

Double standards eludes the moron

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Mar 2023, 18:35
#10
03 Mar 2023, 18:35#10

No Snarkhole, you can spin it all you want, there's no excuse for her death...only certain lives matter.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Mar 2023, 18:40
#11
03 Mar 2023, 18:40#11

Actually doesn't beenshit believe it was Antifa dressed up as right wing nut bars that stormed congress?

Maybe she was targeted since she was the only non antifa that didn't  realise she had been conned?

Looks like the whole thing was set up just to get her out the way. 

Wonder what she knew for the globalist to go that far just to get rid of her.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Mar 2023, 18:44
#12
03 Mar 2023, 18:44#12
Not funny Sader...the gir l is dead now...do you really think she deserved it for what she's done?
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AJHPro3,183 posts
03 Mar 2023, 18:46
#13
03 Mar 2023, 18:46#13

Wasting your time talking to a "one- eyed Jack" DbDraad.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Mar 2023, 18:53
#14
03 Mar 2023, 18:53#14

Ja AJ, somehow George Floyd was a hero but Babbitt had it coming...

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Mar 2023, 18:59
#15
03 Mar 2023, 18:59#15

Rooinek

Why are you always wrong on what you write on site.   Always the same uninformed BS is your norm.   Babbit was inside and saw nothing was happening and tried to climb through a window to get out of the building when the guard found her and promptly shot her.  She was unarmed and a threat to nobody at all - so why the shooting?   That would lead to a judicial enquiry in all cases but not in that one because a charge of murder would follow.

We are about to see how the Demcoratic Party BS about the January 6 incident is beginning to unravel and what will follow would be investigated.   Why were the chief inciter of entry into the Capitol; was never arrested and charged - why was the security entry doors to the Capitol unlocked from inside and who gave the instruction to open the doors?    What really happened inside the building will become clear from footage the new Speaker made available to Fox News.   That is just the preparations for real investigations on a judicial basis will start.   It will not be a kangaroo court propaganda BS that was initiated by Pelosi.             

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Mar 2023, 19:17
#16
03 Mar 2023, 19:17#16

No not at all, just pointing out beenshits hypocrisy.

You know I do not condone the taking of a life except in extreme circumstances.

She put herself in that position and even someone as thick as beenshit knew there are risks in that type of behavior.

She didn't deserve to die but she is not blameless in this act of insanity.

Every choice people make has ramifications I find it hard to understand how people think She is blameless for her actions simply because she was on the same side as them.

Stupid is stupid so she is not blameless

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Mar 2023, 19:22
#17
03 Mar 2023, 19:22#17

Getting out?

Video I saw she was not trying to climb back out of an external window.

What video shows this, please provide a link.

From what I saw she was trying to enter an internal room that the cops were defending.

Seriously you are claiming she was shot while exiting the building? You are a one eyed biased moron.

Provide evidence it happened as you said and I will happily support your claims

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Mar 2023, 19:27
#18
03 Mar 2023, 19:27#18

CF

You are now way below the level you normally are.   How would the shooting of one women be enough to not being a threat?    If the 100 to 1 story is correct  there was approximately 600 enterers of the Capitol  - in terms of your story there were only 6 police officers on duty in the Capitol.   Get your facts right and do not spread BS on site.   

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Mar 2023, 19:50
#19
03 Mar 2023, 19:50#19

Your the one claiming she was climbing out an external window to get away when she was shot.

Please provide a link to substantiated your claim.

As usual you are sticking to your normal level of lies and BS.

If you want people to listen to you STOP FUCKIN LYING.

And now your claiming only 100 right wing nutbars stormed tha capital while only one cop was on duty?

Fuck me where are you getting your info from?

Do you not even understand  what 100:1 means.

Will help you out  that means for every cop there was 100 protesters. Simple maths yet way beyond your understanding,  no wonder you post such stupid BS as logic is obviously far beyond you.

Over 7,000 people stormed the capitol, not all entered but do you think the cops defending one room knew how many people entered the capitol. Fuck me next you will state they knew only 600(I will take your word for that number) had entered. In that mayhem you expect to know exact numbers of who was where?.

You are an idiot


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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Mar 2023, 20:02
#20
03 Mar 2023, 20:02#20

I notice you fail to mention the injuries and deaths of the police, why is this. You seem happy to accept that as if they deserved it.

You are just as much a hypocrite as beenshit.

The police did not ask to be put in that situation but as far as your concerned their lives mean shit.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Mar 2023, 20:07
#21
03 Mar 2023, 20:07#21

"She put herself in that position and even someone as thick as beenshit knew there are risks in that type of behavior."

opposed to George Floyd?

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Mar 2023, 20:20
#22
03 Mar 2023, 20:20#22

So because I think she is partly responsible for her death I have to think Floyd got what he deserved?

Damn Draad your thinking is getting as warped  as our resident morons.

Life is a gift and no one deserves to have it taken from them (well I struggle to sympathies with pedos, hey I am not perfect).

So many on here think life is worth nothing, (especially if they have a different  world view)

Did she deserve to die, hell no but she is not blameless.

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Mar 2023, 20:43
#23
03 Mar 2023, 20:43#23

No Sader, how the fck was she partly responsible for her own death? Was George Floyd?

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Mar 2023, 20:44
#24
03 Mar 2023, 20:44#24

"Did she deserve to die, hell no but she is not blameless."

She was blameless for her death...more so than Floyd. 

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Mar 2023, 20:50
#25
03 Mar 2023, 20:50#25

Have to disagree, she put herself in that position, she is not blameless sorry

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
03 Mar 2023, 20:54
#26
03 Mar 2023, 20:54#26

more so than George. 

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Mar 2023, 20:55
#27
03 Mar 2023, 20:55#27

Her decision to to enter congress illegally, she was forced to be there was she?

Let me know who held a gun to her back will you.

People are responsible for their own actions and as such they have to accept the consequences.

As I have stated she did not deserve to die but she made the decision to  enter and paid the the ultimate price.

I strugg to understand why she is totally innocent in this.

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PakieCaptain17,321 posts
03 Mar 2023, 20:56
#28
03 Mar 2023, 20:56#28

Floyd was dying long before the police put him on the ground because he was full of drugs and his body was shutting down. If you watch the entire video of his attempted arrest (in which he resists every effort by some very patient policemen to get him to cooperate with them for 20+ minutes) you'll hear him saying "I can't breathe" long before he ever went to ground. Had he cooperated he might have gotten medical attention and still been alive today. He was a stupid ass drug dealer who just about committed suicide by partaking too much of his own merchandise.

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
03 Mar 2023, 20:57
#29
03 Mar 2023, 20:57#29

If she was a Antifa member would you be taking the same stand, I don't think so.

Why do so many Christians think a life is worthless if they do not agree with their line of thinking.

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
03 Mar 2023, 21:59
#30
03 Mar 2023, 21:59#30
"She was blameless for her death"
Blameless? She heeds a call by a snivelling sore loser to obstruct the democratic and constitutional process, she is part of the mindless horde who storm the Capitol, she ignores the pleas and the warnings of the armed police and tries to break into the building . . . and she is "blameless"?
Seriously now, you'd have to be as brainwashed as Baboon-ou or as stupid as ou Maaik to believe that she is entirely without blame for her own death.
I'll concede she may not be 100% to blame so let's apportion some of that blame where it belongs.
Firstly, Bozo himself. Bozo once famously (and, sadly, correctly) stated that his support base is so dumb he could stand on 5th Ave in New York and shoot someone and he wouldn't lose any voters. He knows his supporters are stupid yet - in a fit of self-pity and embarrassment at losing to the second worst candidate in US election history - he still urged his supporters to put themselves in harm's way and obstruct the certification of the vote count. I'd lay about 20% of the blame on Bozo.
Secondly, her parents. You have to question the upbringing of someone so phenomenally stupid and so easily brainwashed that she would not only support someone as incompetent and repulsive as Bozo but actually obey his call to try and overturn the election results. Some might say her teachers are equally responsible for her ignorance but I believe it's the parents responsibility to raise a child and that is not delegated to teachers. I taught my own kids to read, write and do basic arithmetic before they ever went to school and I always took an active interest in what they were learning at school. Especially when it came to subjects like history and life orientation, I'd firstly make sure they knew what to answer to get the best marks but also explained what was true and what was bullshit. I'd lay 30% of the blame on her parents for allowing her to become an indoctrinated idiot.
As for the police officer who was simply doing the job that he was paid to do so that he could put food on his family's table, I apportion 0% of the blame. Not 0.1%, not 0.00001% . . . zero!
That leaves 50% of the blame on herself.
"Blameless". LMAO!
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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
03 Mar 2023, 23:47
#31
03 Mar 2023, 23:47#31

CF

I read a previous report that she was trying to leave the Capitol through a window when she was shot.   I accept that i was wrong in that if proven by video evidence that it was not the case.   I do not know what video ecvidence you saw - Pelosi never released the security camera videos and what was made available was only things that the Demcorats could use in their propaganda.       

If there were over 7 000 people who "stormed" the Capitol - why was only 600 people arrested on the basis that they entered the Capitol area.   So where did the other 6400 people go and why were they not arrested?    Then there was the chief inciter of the people to enter the Capitol - and there are previous videos evidence proving that he was indeed inciting the people to enter the Capitol - was never arrested.   He was called  in by the Pelosi Kangaroo court and never asked any questions.   Then lastly who opened the security doors into the Capitol from inside and who instructed them to unlock and open the doors to let the rioters in?    Who was the guy who carried the hangman noose purportedly to kill Pence and why was he never arrested and charged by the FBI or the Justice Department.

As to the shooting - why was a judicial enquiry into the shooting never held?

You asked about the Police killed during the invasion.   There was never any legal evidence of any Police killed or injured.   It was a llie of the Democrats,   There were 2 Washington City police who died on the day.   One of them had a stroke and died of natural causes.   the second one was killed by a hit and run accident that had nothing to do with the Capitol - it happened three street blacks away from where the Capitol and it was a normal crime in that lawless city where gun battles between gangsters took place very near to the Capitol  - the one I saw on CNN who previously downplayed crime and never covered it in their news items trying to claim there is no criminal activities in Washington City itself.      There were actually no evidence on the other three deaths provided - and real evidence indicated it was an outright Democratic Party lie.    Find the names of the other three Policemen allegedly killed by the rioters and put it on site.  The two names provided by the Democrats was investigated and found to be lies.   So find the names of the other 3 because nobody has been given their identity so it could be investigated.

The kind of BS you often comes up with  is always based on newspaper and media reports without even thinking of questioning your dubious sources.    The media you believe in is known for lying about things like the Russian Collusion story for which you fell as well.             

 

        

             

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Mar 2023, 00:04
#32
04 Mar 2023, 00:04#32

Rooinek

There was no evidence ever produced that Tr ump incited people to enter the Capitol - he in fact said that if they go into Washington and not riot or cause damage.   Want to listen to his remarks on that issue.     He also contacted your poesface hero Pelosi and said she could get National Guard assistance to ensure things do not get out of hand - Poesface turned that offer down.  

I am not saying anything to justify anything done.   It is normal judicial practice - also in the USA - that if an unarmed civilian is killed by Policemen there would be a judicial investigation as to what actually happened.   Why was that Judicial Investigation never held?    If she was attacking anyone or threatening anyone it would come out in the Judicial Investigation.

The rest of what you wrote is total and stupid BS.   You are a good one to blame other people of being brainwashed - but you are the stooge easily falling for propaganda BS.    In five years you never wrote anything that was not total BS on Russian Collusion - which ultimately was proved to be the result of lies concocted by the Obama Administration, the Democratic Party and the Clinton Election campaign.    That shows total brainwashed idiocy by you.   

         

             

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Mar 2023, 07:39
#33
04 Mar 2023, 07:39#33

Sader, I don't think Floyd had it coming either...or deserved what he got. I used his example to illustrate the hypocrisy of the American system at present...from the media,  politics,  justice system, right through....sickening. 

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DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
04 Mar 2023, 07:42
#34
04 Mar 2023, 07:42#34

Rooi!

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RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
04 Mar 2023, 08:00
#35
04 Mar 2023, 08:00#35
"It is normal judicial practice - also in the USA - that if an unarmed civilian is killed by Policemen there would be a judicial investigation as to what actually happened.   Why was that Judicial Investigation never held?"
"Following the routine process for shootings by Capitol Police officers, the Metropolitan Police Department of the District of Columbia and the United States Department of Justice investigated Babbitt's death and made a determination that the shooting was "lawful and within Department policy".[12][67][68] Upon clearing Byrd, USCP released a press statement saying his action "potentially saved Members and staff from serious injury and possible death".[13]"
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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
04 Mar 2023, 14:02
#36
04 Mar 2023, 14:02#36

Mike, watch this video, it recounts the events of the day and heavily uses videos shot by the protesters.

Day of Rage: How Trump Supporters Took the U.S. Capitol | Visual Investigations - YouTube

at 28 minutes it shows the lead up and shooting of Babbits (filmed by a rioter)

As you can clearly see there were thousands outside the capital (estimated at 8,000) of which an estimated 2,000 entered the capital building.

Please note this is put together by The NY Times and is not pro insurrection so you might want to watch with it muted but you cannot deny the footage as most of it is filmed by the protesters themselves.

You will clearly see

1) Babbit was definetly not climbing out an external window but through a door.

2) Way more than 600 protesters entered the building from multiple points

3) The police were vastly outnumbered

4) It certainly wasn't a peaceful protest nor did the cops instigate the violence

As noted elsewhere most protesters (those that still had part of their brain engaged) started to depart from outside once it turned violent. Why would these people be arrested, the right to a peaceful protest is a given right in the USA. Only those that participated in violence or illegally entered the building itself would be open to be arrested.

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clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Mar 2023, 16:10
#37
04 Mar 2023, 16:10#37

Those videos are total shit - they coulld so a man carrying a hang man nooz to hang Pence - but the man was clearly identified - he was on all TV channels as well - yet he was never arrested and never charged of anything.  The public media also showed clips of a guy inciting people to go into the Capitol - he was not charged either.

So lets get real - the videos that really count was the security cameras in the Capitol and that is the real proof of what happened.

I have four questions for you - though.   

1   The Capitol has strong security doors and a computerized locking system that could only be unlocked internally.    Who using the computer program unlocked the doors and on whose instruction was it unlocked?

2    Why was the main inciter shown on videos and hang man's noose carrier never arrested or charged?

3    Why did the Justice Department broke standard judicial procedures and not formed a Grand Jury investigation when an unarmed  civilian was killed by a policeman?

4    Why were only circa 600 people if there were in fact 2 000 people entering the Capitol - the security cameras inside the Capitol would have identified all people involved.

5    Why are most of the arrested people still in jail for two years after their arrest without being charged of any offence - is that not what is normal in a Police State?       

6    Why the lies about the Policeman killed by rioters?    

There must be a real judicial investigation done to determine what really happened on January 6 - not the propaganda BS we saw during the Pelosi investigation breaking all House and judicial rules in the process.  That would clear the air totally.  If anybody broke the law they should be punished - but due legal process should always be followed. 

You got a video from the New York Times - amazing stuff.   Was that not the same paper who wrote that Putin paid bonuses to the Taliban for killing of American soldiers in Afghanistan?    Was it not the maximum distributor of the Russian Collusion lies from the start.   Was that not the Paper who were sued by Sandmann for damages and had to settle because what they wrote about the schoolboy was a total lie and libelous.   By the way CNN, the Washington Post, the New York Times, MSNBC and a host of other channels all lied and they paid for their lies Sandmann at 20 is an extremely rich youngster - all the media paid up for lies they spread.                  

   

CL
clevermikeCoach57,555 posts
04 Mar 2023, 16:19
#38
04 Mar 2023, 16:19#38

Rooinek 

If you believe that BS you must be a 5 year-old idiot.  The investigation must judicially be done under supervision of a judge - not an internal conco ction like you mentioned.       

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CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
04 Mar 2023, 17:05
#39
04 Mar 2023, 17:05#39

And there we have it, videos are fake.

Next you will be telling us it was all a con job reenactment and cgi.

You are a joke and your insanity is showing.

So none of that was real???

I am done with you crap

CR
CrusadersfanPro3,099 posts
04 Mar 2023, 17:07
#40
04 Mar 2023, 17:07#40

Just out of curiosity did you watch any of it?

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