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Straits closed again . . .

Started by Rooinek115 REPLIES835 VIEWS· 20 Jun 2026, 17:55
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Denny
Captain12,893 posts
24 Jun 2026, 11:00#41

This is not just kicking the can down the road; it is making problems worse for those in the future.


That’s why I pushed for a regime change which was never going to happen, and like I’ve said before, the war was nothing more than a temporary fix.

The toxic regime will regroup and rebuild causing all sorts of problems in the middle east.

With $350B in the kick why wouldn't they!?

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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
24 Jun 2026, 11:55#42

If the whole point is to stop Iran having nukes because they are dangerous, and then threatening to nuke Iran if they dont concede defeat pretty much destroys the whole American argument. And, especially - given America are the only country to have nuked a country (Japan). It seems ironic that they can decide who has nukes, and who does not.


Yes, no one wants Iran with a nuclear bomb, but this disaster by Trump is not helping. He threatened to nuke Iran a few times already, in addition to threats of destroying civil energy and water. If that is not an incentive to get a nuke, then I dont know what is.


This was another war about oil; the nuclear stuff was just a pretext motive. The goal was to somehow increase oil prices for China, or just reduce oil supply.

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Denny
Captain12,893 posts
24 Jun 2026, 12:25#43

The goal was to somehow increase oil prices for China, or just reduce oil supply.


Interesting....I never looked at it from that point of view.


One thing for sure it was never about the Iranian people being liberated from the horror of living under the regime.

"Help is on the way' was just Bullshit. I also wonder how many young Iranians took Trump at his word and then ended up being. executed.

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clevermike
Coach57,555 posts
24 Jun 2026, 12:51#44

When madmen take over the topic and distort it reoponse is not of vallue - it just cost further distorted lunacy by even mentioning things the distoreted minds cannot absorb.

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Denny
Captain12,893 posts
24 Jun 2026, 12:56#45

Tx for your response Mike, you can now head to your room and cry yourself to sleep.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
24 Jun 2026, 17:04#46

"The goal was to somehow increase oil prices for China, or just reduce oil supply. (No, just level the playing field... it's stacked in their favor ATM)


Interesting....I never looked at it from that point of view.


One thing for sure it was never about the Iranian people being liberated from the horror of living under the regime. (Of course that's part of it too.)

"Help is on the way' was just Bullshit. I also wonder how many young Iranians took Trump at his word and then ended up being. executed."


It's a multifacit problem...


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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
24 Jun 2026, 18:23#47

What we know is happening is ships are exiting the Strait of Hormuz and pipelines are being built to bypass Hormuz. It’s not clear ships are going back into the Strait any time soon

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
24 Jun 2026, 19:13#48

The lines have been drawn...the gig is up...their toy has been taken away...they just hasn't realized it yet...

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Denny
Captain12,893 posts
25 Jun 2026, 04:00#49

Don’t get your hopes up—Iran will continue to be a persistent and troubling issue as long as the current regime remains in power, and true stability in the Middle East will remain out of reach.

It's the nature of the beast.

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clevermike
Coach57,555 posts
26 Jun 2026, 05:39#50

Denny


Iran was a real thrat to all ME countries as was pro/ven in Syria, Yemen and Lebanon. There was real fear am/omngst them that all countries azre under threat Knowing that the Autopen Regime was invovled corupt dealings with the Ayatollah Regme - Eqypt, Saido Arabia and the UAE applied fo admission to BRICS at the same time promoted membership of I>ran as well. That way they believe that they may freed from the Iran threat,


However - even before his inauguration the two main negotiators were already active in the ME, As a result the countries that joined BRICS and Turkey, Egypt and Qatar becam involved in negotiations as to ending of the Gaza War, Although Israe still cause sporadic problems the pepace is holdng and a civilian G overnment of experts as been formed Governing Gaza at present until an elected Parliament can take over Governing of the territory, G aza was systematatically destroyed by the wore between Israel and Gaza, - with Iran providuing eaponry ti HAMAS, Successful effort in evidence an even I>srael knows thet must not undermi.ne Trbump's When the treaty was fnalized


In th e case of the Syria Cvivl War with hundreds of thousands died - Iran had 41 000 troops suppoting the Assad Regime and Hezbollah - controlled and funded Iran had their miliary arm protecting Assad, The unsettled situation forced Tu,rkey - the country with the second strongest army in NATO tos top the rot/ They signed a peace agreement with the Kurds and the rebels captured Damascus wqithin days. The I>ran troops withdrew from Syria and with the help of Turrkey On the insitence of he Turlkish President the enw leader of Syria met wit h Trump and oit was agreed op exchange diplomatic ties between S uria and he USA, In fact Obama and Biden did zero to stop th e disaster in Syria - they wo/rsened it. When the Assad Regime used poison gas in the War - Obama stated publicly that it is a red line in the sand but they contrinued usin g gas and Obama dod nothing abou it,


In 2012 Obama withdrew all US troops from Iraq and by 2013 ISIS operatomng .in Northern Syria invaded Iraq and the only troops fighting ag ainst th em were the Kurds. The Iraq armym kept retreating and by 2014 Obama sent in 200 soldiers with th e isntruction that th ey do not get involved in actual fighting - they were purely training the Iraq army. When ISIS advances the result was that th e Iraq armym would flee from the battle areas and elve all equipm,ent behind. By 2-017 whn Trump took over po/wer in Washigton he sent in troops to wipe out ISIS abd they did so in th ree months time. The troops also entered S yria and killed the leader of ISIS - with the medi moaning about how a really good faher was killed by Trump. This refrain was repeated when Trump had Solemeini - the head of the Iran Revolutionary Guard - and also the head of h e Civil wars in Syria Yeman and Lebanon killed Trump was accused of murdering a great man known in Iran oself as the Butcher of Teheran.


When the Houthi's attacked sh ipping in the Red Sea in 2025 the NA YO members pleaded with TNrump to protect their shipping and he did hust that by bombing the Houthi army to near non-existence, and th attacks stopped, No t hank yopu, from the slapgat N ATO countries,


All the above weakened the Iran Regime and provided help to strengthen the ME countries alliance with the USA, In the end the insiustence of Qatar and Pakistan in the rpesent peace negittiations show that Trump is instgrumental a new ME Alliance to protet those countries and help woih rebuilding of hose copuntries and Gaza/


The fact is that even the Aymatollah Regim knows they are u,nder threat and for slef=protection purpo/ses t hey are forced t alow the USA to ensur Uranium enrichment invetigations and tos top their terrorism they were known for in oher ME countries, .


The fact is the e,dia hysteria are also reflectefd on this site, It ignore facts and the dosasters caused by O?bama and ZBiden that cau,sed h e eath of millions of epople in the ME, Af ter th e ceasefire agrement was signed the next phase of the negotiations kicked in. However Ian asked fo a two day delay to ge proposals and omments from the new Regime in Iran, and that delaym was protrayed by the media as an Iran insul of Trump - and the fnal agremeent will be co-sgned by all middle East countries Pakistan and Indonesia.


In the emantime the Ukraine War issue is still amajor difficulty to be so/l, The War has wded downa and some ceasefire agreents have been agreed on. Trump sent three nuclear powered and armed submarines into the Baltic Sea and started to stop the flo/w o/f Russian Oil and gas to NATO countries and once the Iran agreement has been signed the attention will be swithed to settle the Ukraine issue,


Trump used wqo negotiators o deal with issue and he is using Rubio and Vance to deal with the issues involved in the ME and in Ukraine, Si gns are that th e Ukraine War end within the enxt 4 months,


The fact is Obama was a corrupt show pony and Biden an equaly corrupt idiot. The Ukraine civil War started in 2014 when O?bama was President and th e fulkl war when Biden was President, Obama and the DP started the lies about th e Russian Hoax and that amde it very difficult to do something about the Civil War in Eastern Ukraine - bit now tat issue will also receive diec intervention by Trump and his team of expert negotiatiors.


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Denny
Captain12,893 posts
26 Jun 2026, 08:10#51

I couldn’t read your bible reading post, there simply isn’t enough time, I only have one lifetime not two

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bobbok...
Captain10,129 posts
26 Jun 2026, 09:56#52

nogal at 5.39 am


oom I applaud your endurance

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
26 Jun 2026, 15:10#53

WTI Crude 11 mins

69.41 -3.49%Graph down

Brent Crude

72.36 -3.85%Graph down

Murban Crude

66.30 -4.00%Graph up

Natural Gas

3.441 +2.93

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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
26 Jun 2026, 17:33#54

Trump thought he had all the cards, but Iran played a strait.


Apparently military generals in America would have been well aware of this, but many had been fired before and during the start of the Iran campaign.


It was common knowledge that Iran could close the Strait, and bomb American military bases across the middle east.

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
26 Jun 2026, 17:39#55

"Trump thought he had all the cards, but Iran played a strait."


LMAO!

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
26 Jun 2026, 17:57#56

...all the glee and mirth...totally BATSHIT TDS.

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Denny
Captain12,893 posts
26 Jun 2026, 18:03#57

Trump thought he had all the cards, but Iran played a strait.



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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
26 Jun 2026, 18:47#58

The Bafana Bafana team calling the game before it’s over.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
26 Jun 2026, 23:41#59

The Iran regime broke their only toy...they don't know it yet, but by the end of the Trump presidency, they'll be totally irrelevant.

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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
27 Jun 2026, 00:59#60

Looks like the price of oil is going to increase again.


The US military has conducted strikes on Iranian targets after President Donald Trump accused Iran of a "foolish violation" of its truce following an attack on a cargo ship in the Strait of Hormuz.




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