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Straits closed again . . .

Started by Rooinek115 REPLIES834 VIEWS· 20 Jun 2026, 17:55
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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
22 Jun 2026, 22:11#21

Typical self-righteous Trumpanzee squealing.


The world wouldn't be burning if it wasn't for your hero . . . the biggest clown in history.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
23 Jun 2026, 00:36#22

The world isn't burning, the status quo is being upset...not a bad thing necessarily...and you can shove your own self-righteousness. ...and you're wrong Denny, you lot pounce on any possible sign of perceived failure ... difficult problems don't have simple solutions and the Iranian problem has been one of the most difficult for the past half century... there's no easy fix and leaving the current state of things to keep on festering will only make things worse...

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
23 Jun 2026, 00:37#23

Crude still dropping....why the hysteria?...

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
23 Jun 2026, 00:50#24

Good grief . . . of course it's going to drop back to normal levels when the war is over.


It wouldn't have gone up in the first place if the clown hadn't started the war. Now you're trying to give him credit because it's starting to come down . . . months after he promised it would?


I mean really, there's brainwashed and blinkered and then there's this . . .


As for something needed to be done, that may be, but not this. Doing nothing at all was still a heck of a lot better than Operation Epic Fail.


Prices wouldn't have skyrocketed around the globe, the USA would have saved themselves countless billions of dollars, the Iranians wouldn't have a clue how much leverage they have with the Straits of Hormuz, the supreme leader of Iran would be a far more moderate older man who was against building nuclear weapons, billions of dollars of infrastructure damage would have been saved, the Iranian people wouldn't have united behind the regime everyone hates and 150 schoolgirls would still be alive.


Among other negative effects of this stupid, poorly planned and poorly executed war.


Doing nothing would have been a lot better.

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
23 Jun 2026, 03:38#25

The Proposal


Bozo, Bozo give me your answer do

I’m half crazy oh for the love of you

I won’t be a stylish gopher

I have no Gucci loafer

But you’re so great

I’ll trust my fate

To the man with the Orange hue.


The Rejection


Rooinek, Rooinek this is entre nous

There’s no opening here for the likes of you

I have a thousand gophers

Who all have Gucci loafers

But you’re so woke

Now an Andy bloke

That can’t be a surprise to you.




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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
23 Jun 2026, 03:46#26

"Good grief . . . of course it's going to drop back to normal levels when the war is over."



But the war isn't over and the strait is closed and Iran are holding all the cards ..hysteria...and I didn't give Trump credit for anything in that comment...whoosh!...



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TheTraditionalist
Pro4,003 posts
23 Jun 2026, 05:15#27

It is very funny. And mattering a lot.


There is a lot to say about the oil price, especially as the demand is going to be very strong as nations will want to restore their strategical reserves as soon as possible.


This crisis has confirmed much about the markets in general. They do not work as liberals claim them.


The straight is closed which does not change much the current situation since stranded ships have been stranded for time now and this alone is a factor in the price of oil going down, it is a status quo. And Iranian tankers are moving.


It is very funny because liberals' brains are wired in a way they can not assess a situation from various angles.


There is a lot to explain the oil price coming down despite the iranian action, especially as Iranians are behaving rationally. And this should be stated again, in the methodology as designed by liberals themselves, rationality is an asset as it allows to read a course of action over a duration of time. It is predictable..


Remember, peeps, when Trump's declarations were sending the oil price up and down in seconds. That is the point that has lost strength. Trump no longer influenced the situation as he used to.


That is the point. that has changed a lot. Not the Iranian effect.

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Denny
Captain12,893 posts
23 Jun 2026, 08:52#28

and you're wrong Denny


Oh Ok if you say so.......apologies, your hero has never told a lie and is therefor not a serial Liar.

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bobbok...
Captain10,129 posts
23 Jun 2026, 09:06#29

The narcissist supreme,

the strutting, venal Daddy’s boy,

is eighty, it would seem,

a gaseous rage-tweeting blimp,

a bulging bag of bile,

an anti-science charlatan,

a venal crocodile

who wants to be an autocrat,

an orange Putin clone

surrounded by his acolytes,

a king upon his throne.


GGG

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
23 Jun 2026, 13:36#30

The best South African poet in my view, Roy Campbell, describes the Horses of the Camargue:



In the grey wastes of dread,

The haunt of shattered gulls where nothing moves

But in a shroud of silence like the dead,

I heard a sudden harmony of hooves,

And, turning, saw afar

A hundred snowy horses unconfined,

The silver runaways of Neptune's car

Racing, spray-curled, like waves before the wind.

Sons of the Mistral, fleet

As him with whose strong gusts they love to flee,

Who shod the flying thunders on their feet

And plumed them with the snortings of the sea;

Theirs is no earthly breed

Who only haunts the verges of the earth

And only on the sea's salt herbage feed-

Surely the great white breakers gave them birth.

For when for years a slave,

A horse of the Camargue, in alien lands,

Should catch some far-off fragrance of the wave

Carried far inland from this native sands,

Many have told the tale

Of how in fury, foaming at the rein,

He hurls his rider; and with lifted tail,

With coal-red eyes and cataracting mane,

Heading his course for home,

Though sixty foreign leagues before him sweep,

Will never rest until he breathes the foam

And hears the native thunder of the deep.

And when the great gusts rise

And lash their anger on these arid coasts,

When the scared gulls career with mournful cries

And whirl across the waste like driven ghosts;

When hail and fire converge,

The only souls to which they strike no pain

Are the white crested fillies of the surge

And the white horses of the windy plain.

Then in their strength and pride

The stallions of the wilderness rejoice;

They feel their Master's trident in their side,

And high and shrill they answer to his voice.

With white tails smoking free,

Long streaming manes, and arching necks, they show

Their kinship to their sisters of the sea-

And forward hurl their thunderbolts of snow.

Still out of hardship bred,

Spirits of power and beauty and delight

Have ever on such frugal pasture fed

And loved to course with tempests through the night.



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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
23 Jun 2026, 16:08#31

Will the Trumpanzee species ever accept that its master has made a monumental screw-up in Iran?

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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
23 Jun 2026, 16:10#32

No, they're still trying to pretend it wasn't the biggest blunder in living memory.


LMAO!


Funny to see them trying so hard to spin it otherwise.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
23 Jun 2026, 16:56#33

...yet you lot are the hysterical bunch...

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
23 Jun 2026, 17:02#34

... you're the one spinning current affairs into some kind of drama...which it's not, backed up by the fact that crude is still dropping...getting to be more of a drama queen by the day...old age or a result of taking up writing?...keep it up, the fiction and real life take is entertaining.

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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
23 Jun 2026, 22:20#35

And the dollar soars, while shipments of oil through Hormuz almost hit pre war levels. Despite all the set backs, it’s looking more likely the Iran affair will end with the their military being diminished and their nuclear ambitions delayed. And a lower death count than any major engagement I can remember.


It may be expensive, but if it all comes off as anticipated….it’s a new benchmark in avoiding conflict deaths.


If on the other hand Iran plays hardball Trump will have huge leeway to respond having seemingly been very patient with the Iranian zoo.

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clevermike
Coach57,555 posts
23 Jun 2026, 23:00#36

SN


.You, hear something or read something about Iran and you, twist it around beyond recognition and totally qithout pro/o/f and t hen ex[c from us to beiieve yor drivel.


Any objectoive person would undersand that Iran wa a nuclear armed hreat to the orld and that is bpw beeing elminated, Anyoine in the real world will understand that Trump has e[aored the dama ge caused by Autopen Biden in the ME and Trump is successful to solidify them to put a stop to the thread they posed by rerrorism and civi war in the mE and Africa.


Any economist will tell ymou that rogu countries like Iran is bad for the world economy, What Trump has done is reducing terrorism worldwide funded and controlled by Iran. The world will be more stab;e and the negotiators will ave heor hands full to end the Ulkkraine War funded and promoted by the USA.


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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
24 Jun 2026, 02:53#37

America has just relied on long-range strikes from bases in the Middle East. While it may have reduced American soldier deaths, what about the school that was bombed? Long-range strikes will inevitably lead to more civilian deaths. What about the deaths of people of other countries? What about all the damage caused by Iran striking military bases in the Middle East? MAGA do not care if civilians are being blown up. This is not just kicking the can down the road; it is making problems worse for those in the future.


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Mozart
Captain49,914 posts
24 Jun 2026, 05:02#38

What about all the damage caused by Iran striking military bases in the Middle East?


Try imagining what that would look like if the same desperate people down the road did that with nuclear weapons. Allowing Iran that option essentially gives a rogue regime veto power over any international discipline.

Ask yourself this, how many people have died in Ukraine exactly because Russia has that very power. Absent his nuclear shield the risks for him in Ukraine would have been far greater. The same kind of scenario could play out with Iran on a smaller scale.


Yes there have been tragedies in this conflict like any other, notably the school children. That won’t be forgotten. But every reasonable precaution was taken to avoid that.


Trump in his usual manner over stated success….destroy the nuclear material, regime change, Middle East Peace, ending Hamas, minimum casualties, ME states signing the agreement with Israel.


So he is being held to all those goals by nations that weren’t willing to help and domestic opponents who would be delighted with failure. But as the Nato Secretary General said yesterday, he is doing the right thing. And there is a decent chance that will be the non partisan consensus once it ends.


The real villains here are countries who know Iran should be contained but said ‘it’s not our war’ to the greatest benefactor.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
24 Jun 2026, 05:59#39

"Allowing Iran that option essentially gives a rogue regime veto power over any international discipline.



Like they're already doing with the strait....but, yeah, leave them to gain more leverage...good plan.


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Rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
24 Jun 2026, 09:24#40

Ummmmm . . . was Iran closing the Straits before Operation Epic Fail?


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