Straits closed again . . .

The threat has always been there if they didn't get their way. They held the world at ransom until their bluff has been called...blackmail is blackmail, you only make things worse of you give into it...the problem was always their, just dorment.

This absence of thought is so warped. There is nothing, it makes no sense.

It is a work of wonder, it is so contradictory.

And indeed, one may understand why liberals do not want Iran to have nuclear weapons. Because as per liberals' standard, calling a bluff means forcing to execute a threat that is known to be concrete. It is no longer exposing people to reveal the threat does not exist.

Iran will have some fun with Trump in September and October.

"This absence of thought is so warped. There is nothing, it makes no sense."

There is no thought with the Trumpanzees. They're so brainwashed that thinking has become secondary.

Perhaps but with the Woke set thinking was always secondary…let me try and help.

1 Iran is a nation that supports world terrorism.The horrible attack on Israel would never have happened without Iranian support of Hamas and they knew it was going to happen

Advanced Knowledge: Secret Hamas documents recovered by Israeli intelligence and analyzed by outlets like The New York Times indicate that Iranian leadership had advanced knowledge of Hamas’s plans to attack Israel. [1, 2]

2 Iran has clearly been working to enrich Uranium to purposes only suitable for nuclear weapons. Concede the argument they weren’t planning that before Trump blew up the Obama agreement….which is naive….but even if true, after that they were hell bent to enrich uranium.

Now look at N Korea, fundamentally untouchable because of Chinese sponsorship and the fact they have nukes. Imagine a nuclear Iran, which has already attacked its neutral neighbors without provocation. Will that Iran not use nuclear weapons as a threat in future disagreements….would the West risk a nuclear event to stop them.

3 America has never taken assets from any country for its own benefit without paying for them. It doesn’t need Iran’s oil. And companies like SpaceEx are working on technologies to give it a further lead….and beside that if solar and wind work in Europe, how much better would they work in Texas. Taking Iran’s oil is not a motivation.

4 Iran is a police state that tortures and incarcerates its political enemies. The kind of State the League of Nations and the United Nations were formed to prevent. But in the modern world unprincipled countries like Russia and China, police states themselves, are quite happy to support rogue nations

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This is an action the USA took to prevent the primary sponsor of terrorism from going nuclear and it was supported by most countries on both sides of the ME divide.

The argument against it is primarily selfish in the case of those benefitting from Iranian oil and preserving a comfort zone for those in Europe….no rocking of the internal political boat, anger at the cost of doing the right thing. Everything was fine….for the moment.

And the whole issue has been caught up in the Trump resistance. Anything the man does can’t be supported, rather see the Mullahs win. And America has to be taken down a peg.

This is the kind of European thinking that gave the world the disgraceful Boer War and two tragic world wars. Where 110 million people died, not just 180 school children disgracefully housed next to a military target,

The right course was to support the Iranian people’s rights, to prevent a dangerous nuclear proliferation and to stand united as a world based on the principles of democracy, not a brutal theocracy. How soon Europe has washed its hands of their complicity in the Holocaust whether by action or inaction.

I wish you Trumpanzees would stop banging on about nuclear weapons. That wasn't the reason Bozo started this war. Bozo told us around about this time last year that he had "obliterated" Iran's nuclear capabilty. He thought he'd effect regime change with this stupid war based on what his pal Bibi told him. It has nothing at all to do with any kind of nuclear threat. That's just where he arrived after winging it.

Besides, if you haven't worked out yet that the USA uses alleged nuclear threats and claims of "weapons of mass destruction" as an excuse for waging their oil-grabbing wars then you're stupid even by Trumpanzee standards.

The argument of America is a mediator, and the good guys all fall apart when Trump, only just months before, announced he was going to colonise Greenland and Canada. Then he announced the terrorist Donroe Doctrine, which considers the Western Hemisphere American. Then he invaded Venezuela to install a puppet leader, and then there was the Cuba oil blockade. Trump says he will invade Cuba, but that appears to be delayed because of the botched attack on Iran.

America democratically elected Trump, someone with the potential to be the next Hitler. No one believes their stories - the pretext for attacking Iran. This was all about restricting the flow of oil to China and making Iran trade oil in dollars.

America fear China. They know that the average IQ in America is in decline, but China is growing.

They know that capitalism, combined with an effective communist government, is a threat.

Accordingly to Pete Hegseth, America is in a 24-7 ready mode to go to war with China.

The Thucydides Trap: the idea that war becomes more likely when a rising power threatens to displace a dominant one. The term is commonly used for China-US tensions.

A related framework is power transition theory, which makes a similar argument about major war being most likely during a challenger’s rise against a declining hegemon.

Besides, if you haven't worked out yet that the USA uses alleged nuclear threats and claims of "weapons of mass destruction" as an excuse for waging their oil-grabbing wars then you're stupid even by Trumpanzee standards.

Okay document the oil the US has stolen….I wait with bated breath.

Bozo told us around about this time last year that he had "obliterated" Iran's nuclear capabilty (Sic).

Nuclear capability….not historical capability in terms of enriched uranium already in existence. Nor the intent to resume the moment they had the chance.

America fear China. They know that the average IQ in America is in decline, but China is growing.

American IQs are falling but the country keeps building a bigger lead in technology and the sciences,And China keeps copying us…,most recently ….

Chinese AI companies have been accelerating their capabilities by harvesting outputs from advanced U.S. frontier models using a process called "model distillation". By creating thousands of automated, fraudulent accounts, these firms query Western models millions of times to copy their logic, reasoning, and tone, which significantly lowers their own development costs and timelines

And this is the country you think is ready to lead the world, you can’t be serious.

So you agree that Trump's about the worst POTUS in the USA's 250 year history ?

Okay document the oil the US has stolen….I wait with bated breath.

Probably less about that.

https://www.ruckersforum.com/forum/mikes-gripes/trade-and-trade-routes/61265/

Liberals have this deep leaning they can get out of anything by redefining things. Which is very funny.

Stealing oil has never been about stealing oil, it is about stealing the control over oil trade (or any other goods)

It is very funny because the world is in the middle of a crisis that is big.

The US trade offer is crushed by China trade offer on a global scale. The US have nothing to trade.

So the US force trade deals on other nations and they force the dismantling of trade deals contracted with China.

It is happening right now and liberals can not face the very situation they are creating.

They must lie about it.

""This absence of thought is so warped. There is nothing, it makes no sense."

There is no thought with the Trumpanzees. They're so brainwashed that thinking has become secondary."

You're the one not able to think further than your nose into the future...short term short-sightedness will be the end of the West...Trump scrambled your brains 10 years ago and you can't recover...shame, you used to be a bit sharper...

China can't even make proper microchips...lol...Trump got them by the balz.

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Strait still closed?

AAAHHH we know don't we, same old.....your Messiah can do no wrong(sigh)

Sure thing!

And your demon can do nothing good... perspective...