The 20s . . .

I'm pre tty sure our resident feuding fossils Moffie and ou Maaik are the only ones among us with any recollections of the 1920s . . . the roaring 20s . . . but I'm guessing it was a pretty cool decade to live in . . . especially the period between the 1st World War and Prohibition . . . people moving into big cities for the first time, new fashions and dances, the birth of jazz, women getting more rights and a time of social and cultural change to rival another great "renaissance" decade, the 1960s.

All sounds a heck of a lot better than a century later when our new decade begins with the world on the brink of war, Australia burning and Jose Mourinho coaching Tottenham Hotspur.

Bozo's, irresponsible and short-sighted assassination of Iran's top general hus plunged the world into suspense and apprehension . . . all because the fat self-serving clown is trying to win votes and stop the impeachment process.

I find it hard to watch or listen to the disaster in New South Wales where last I heard 70 uncontrolled fires are still blazing and the rain that people were getting all excited about eatrlier had almost zero effect. Some of the footage involving koala bears and other animals is just tragic. I only hope this serves as some kind of wake up call that there are going to be many more catastrophes is we don't start cleaning up this planet.

I find myself wanting my beloved Tottenham Hotspur to lose every game just so we can get rid of the Donald Trump of football . . . the narcissitic, stupid, self-serving and bungling Bozo Mourinho.

Rooinek - not so wonderful - the world was anytime as dangerous a place as it is now.   The fact is that the labour situation world wide was desperately poor,   The great depression started in 1929 with the collapse of economies world wide.   Millions of people were killed by the Communists in Russia.

The Mafia was reigning in New York and Chicago,      

The movies made it out to be a swinging time and the wealthy enjoyed it to the full - the ordinary people did NOT,   

There is no comparison between the 1920's and today,   The working class majority today after being badly treated since 1988 in the USA are now better off vastly as to what it used to be in 2016.   Unemployment is down to the lowest level ever in the USA.   

The fact is there were endless wars between the 1920's and at present and the word became a very dangerous place due to terrorism and the situation remains precarious,  The hotbed of terrorism  was always the ME and was made more difficult by restrictions the Obama and previous administrations introduced by binding the hands of the US military totally and the result was endless wars they in fact started.

Endemic corruption by the political elite in the USA  resulted in total neglect of the working class in the USA,  In the EU countries the ordinary people today are worse off than they were 20 years ago,

There is always the danger of terrorist attacks and that has been the case for years,  The reason is that real action is not taken to root out extremism.  ISIS came about and got huge support from the EU countries through soldiers and money,   There is no way that the situation is totally unsatisfactory as it was for years,

Iran's top general was in charge of proxy terrorist movements operating in many countries.   He was also directly responsible for killing of about 1500 Iranians who rebelled against the religious dictatorship they are subjected to.   Anybody thinking that the monster should not be killed as a top leader of terrorism is sick in the head and the BS above is total idiocy,.  The people  who think that Trump has any problems as to impeachment must be joking.   Schiff, Shumer and Pelosi had a fake whistleblower report compiled and then did a fake investigation leading to two Articles of Impeachment,  They found nothing other than that Trump enquired about endemic corruption of the Biden's and other Democrats in Ukraine.   In any event they are now afraid to send the imaginary Articles of Impeachment to the Senate where an Impeachment Trial has to be held,  The Democrats from before elections in 2016 tried to get Trump impeached and they created the Mueller Investigation and that produced zero evidence to impeach Trump.  They got panicky and the latest sham is the result.  

So you need to get over it - Trump will be re-elected as President in November 2020 and that is what the Democrats was trying desperately to prevent.   They got nowhere and that is a fact as well,  

Great post Mike - really cannot fault you on anything.

Ou rooibozo just got scorched!

Ja the Twenties were Great.....the Great Depression. And the collapse of the Mark and Tambov scourges! Those who never learn from history or maybe those who never learn history ......hahhahaha. Hilarious!

Well ... it's the only decade that was given a nickname ... and that must say something of it's new found freedoms, progress and prosperity.

I was born 50 years too late. I would trade this day in for the 1920's any day.

We are living in terrible times. Man has lost his way. Morality and common decency has been replaced by perversion and the mentally sick promote it at every turn.

Walking to the shop with my wife at night puts us in danger.

Kidnapping people for their organs is a way of life these days. 

Global corruption is at an all time high.

The Muslim threat and their twisted upbringing filled with hate and oppression.

The slaughter of our wildlife for financial gain has brought about the demise of many species.

This is not the world I would choose to live in if I had the choice.

Obviously you do not know what happened in the 1920's and showed total ignorance of the situation,    Mozart and I did not live through the 1920 but my grandparents and those of Mozart did.   

Insofar as  the USA is concerned the position was outlined by me above - and the situation was dire for most of the working class.    In the years 1917 to 1953 the Communist Regime murdered 52 million of their own people.   That equates to about 1,5 million people per year and about  15 million people in the 1920's.   Even Gorbachev's two brothers died of starvation in that period,  Millions of the Tartars from the Crimea was sent to Siberia and of those only 200 000 returned to the Crimea after the death of Stalin.

In Germany the depression of the early 1920's let to the rise of Communism and the Nazi's - leading to virtual warfare between those two ideologies and ultimately to the Nazi dictatorship  and  the second World War.    My grandmother's younger sister married an Englishman who was in the Ruhr Occupation Force in the early 1920's,   He told me that he bought a block of flats  for the equivalent of one weeks salary payed in pounds when the depression reached its peak of 500 000% in 1923,   A very happy situation to be in - not so Rooinek?

In England the situation of the working class was so poor the Labour Party was formed to try and get some help to the desperate people in the UK,   King George V lived in total isolation but the Royal Family realizing what was happening became  more involved in welfare work than ever before,

Now lets get to SA and the following excerpt may help Rooinek waking up from his happy dream about the 1920's:-

"The rebellion started as a strike by white mine workers on 28 December 1921 and shortly thereafter, it became an open rebellion against the state. Subsequently the workers, who had armed themselves, took over the cities of Benoni and Brakpan, and the Johannesburg suburbs of Fordsburg and Jeppe.

The young Communist Party of South Africa (CPSA) took an active part in the uprising on grounds of class struggle whilst reportedly opposing racist aspects of the strike,[3] as did the syndicalists. The racist aspect was typified by the slogan; "Workers of the world, unite and fight for a white South Africa!" and by several pogroms against blacks.[4]

Several Communists and syndicalists, the latter including the strike leaders Percy Fisher and Harry Spendiff, were killed as the rebellion was quelled by state forces.[5] The rebellion was eventually put down by "considerable military firepower and at the cost of over 200 lives".[6]

Prime Minis ter Jan Smuts crushed the rebellion with 20,000 troops, artillery, tanks, and bomber aircraft. By this time the rebels had dug trenches across Fordsburg Square and the air force tried to bomb but missed and hit a local church. However, the army's bombardment finally overcame them.[7]

Smuts' actions caused a political backlash, and in the 1924 elections his South African Party lost to a coalition of the National Party and Labour Party. They introduced the Industrial Conciliation Act 1924, Wage Act 1925 and Mines and Works Amendment Act 1926, which recognised white trade unions and reinforced the colour bar.[8] Under instruction from the Comintern, the CPSA reversed its attitude toward the white working class and adopted a new 'Native Republic' policy.[9][10]"

Still happy Rooinek that the world was an ideal happy place in the 1920's?  

CC

The world today is anytime as bad as it was in the 1920's.  The present chaos results from modern ideologies aimed at enslaving people under vicious dictatorship based on Socialism and  for that the issue of  global warming is exploited,  

Radicalization of for instance Islamic believers have cased a virtual continuous war of attrition in the ME.   China put more than 2 million Muslims in slave camps and hundreds are dying or killed virtually on a daily basis,      

It is also inflamed by racialism and all that goes with it,   Poverty has not been relieved by modern ideology and is a pest that is found also in SA.

My point is that the 1920's was one of the worst decades in world history and romanticizing it is wrong.    It was no better than what is found in the present era.   The difference then was that there was hope for a better future and people thinking of how it could be improved upon.   At present the scene is run by totally corrupt politicians who wants to attain power where they are not in charge and turn the world through brainwashing into a slave state.

I a m clearly also sympathetic to what the Ancient Greek Philosophers really thought of Democracy,  They were against it because it could be used by rascals to gain power and when they get hold of it abuse it and turn it into a dictatorship only operating for their own benefit,

The control of the minds of people through brainwashing is not the way to go and it is clear that there is no real solutions envisaged by the present generation of politicians.    A sad situation with dire consequences for the future,  The 1920 situation let to the Second World War - what is the present sceario leading to?                 

Rooinek 

I know more about past history and present politics than you.  Just one thing - can you prove that what I wrote above is not the truth?   

No Rooinek - modern politics bothers me a lot - it seems is if  all that counts for most politicians are how through bribery and corruption they can enrich themselves.   The Obama administration was probably the most corrupt ever in the history of the USA and that says a lot,  

I am not open to brainwashing and ion that respect differ from you,        

Today’s snowflakes wouldn’t last a day in the 1920s. Their biggest issue is the battery life of their smartphones and the fact that they have to wait five minutes for their Latè at Starbucks where the WiFi connection is crappy. Not to talk about the fact that there is not enough safe spaces for those with hurt feelings. 

Most of all, had it been the 1920s many of us wouldn’t even be around to complain about the shit life of 2020 because we would al be dead or close to death. The maximum life expectancy in the USA was between 53 and 58 for men and between 54 and 58 for women. 

The world has been “on the brink of war” since the 1960s. We were also on the brink of war when Obama killed Osama Bin Laden but he was a hero for doing that. 

Australia’s fires has less to do with global warming and climate change than Gretha Thunberg and her cohorts would like to believe. Yes, that is true and the MSM would not make too much of it. The AUS news do however. 

The two big factors with the fires are arson and the AUS govt under influence of The Greens. Near to two hundred arsonists have already been arrested. The last exact figure I saw was 183. 

Bushfires: Firebugs fuelling crisis as arson arrest toll hits 183

The other issue, as I said is the AUS govt who banned controlled bush clearing during the winter, by farmers, to prevent bush fires. Similar issue with the floods in the UK. The govt was blamed for the flooding in the south west of England a few years ago because of the lack of dredging of the rivers and canals. Meantime, back at the ranch the EU had a ban on certain kinds of dredging due to some shyte the Greens dreamt up. 

So, in other words ... Comrade ... living in the roaring 20's would be preferable to today.

Instead of posting a long winded story, obviously designed to impress us, why not just say that.

Get over yourself.

No CC - it was and in the 1920's and it is as bad at present.   The circumstances in the 1920's was different from what it is today - the disastrous situation is the same.         

“ The present chaos results from modern ideologies aimed at enslaving people under vicious dictatorship based on Socialism and  for that the issue of  global warming is exploited,  ”

I don’t fully agree. I don’t think that the aim of modern socialism is aimed at deliberate enslavement under “vicious dictatorships”. 

This is my opinion. The real problem is that the average supporters of socialism, ie the average person on the street that supports socialism, has not seen socialism in action. Not even from afar like many or probably most of us. 

The convenient defence when confronted with the idea that socialism has never worked and will never work is to parrot the bullshit fed to them by the MSM and the leftist politicians, ie that the reason why it hasn’t worked is because of the interventions by the Western powers. 

They are also convinced that all of the rich got their wealth for free and that everybody is entitled to a share of that wealth, by virtue of the idea of unfair inequality. They do not see the wealthy as being job providers. They do not believe in equal opportunities. They much rather prefer equal outcomes. It takes less effort and skill.

On the other hand, the political advocates for socialism are all career politicians who have hardly ever done a day’s hard work in their lives. 

Jeremy Corbyn has been a backbench career politician his entire life, while adding bugger all. He has been against the UK for his entire life. He has also been one of the biggest Eurosceptics in Labour politics until Momentum, a socialist union, put him at the top of Labour leadership and told him to toe the line. 

Bernie Sanders was a paint salesman for a few years and then became a politician. The irony is that his parents were Polish Jews who fled from the Nazis, a national socialist organisation (hence the acronym NAZI), and now he is a socialist himself, although the modern socialists prefer to call themselves democratic socialists. I prefer to call the bullshitting socialists. He, in typical socialist fashion, became a millionaire as a politician by writing books. 

Nancy Pelosi is a filthy stinking rich politician. She has been a career politician and probably do not even know the end of her fortunes. Bear in mind that a member of Congress earns around $170/180K per annum and both she and her husband were career politicians her entire life. Elizabeth Warren earned a bit of money as a lawyer and law professor but she got that on the back of cultural appropriation, one of the pet hates of the left. 

Nope. Modern socialism has nothing to do with enslavement. Not literally in any case. It has everything to do with money. 

In addition to money, it also has to do with the age old socialist aim of power. 

Yes ,,, Comrade ... things are very different today. We have a lot less freedoms today than they did back in the 1920's. The threat that hangs over our heads today is a lot worse than facing a little poison gas in a trench.

I bet you didn't have filthy Muslims detonating themselves among the innocent. 

I bet you could walk to the shop at night without fearing for your life.

I bet the thought of abducting someone for his organs was never a threat.

I bet that the thought of a world war didn't bring about the fears of total obliteration, like it does today.

I bet you wouldn't have been prosecuted for quoting the Bible back then.

Murderers were executed for the crime ... unlike today.

Sodomy was looked down upon ... unlike today, it's encouraged and the young are taught that it's a normal act of love between men.

There is no comparison between then and now.

Even a simpleton like you should recognize the differences.

Of course the Great Depression started with the Stock Market Crash in 1929......so how Great is a decade that ends with the World Economic order collapsing,  and people losing their life savings?

And how great was a Decade that saw prohibition, the rise of Nazism, the rise of Capone and  organized crime,  terrible abuses by the KKK, the Ponzi scheme collapse, the continuation of the Armenian Genocide.

Those who don't learn from history......er....those that don't know history. But there was the flappers so it had to be great right? Hahaha buffoon!

Oh yes the time you thought a man who was dead against history being a strait- jacket.....wrote ...if you don't learn from history, you are condemned to repeat it. Hahahaha.....what an ignorant tosser you are Peeper.

Hahaha.....another win for moz.  Stay down Peeper.

CC 

If I could have chosen where to live and when it would have been from 1850 to 2000 in Austria and even Russia.    Never in the 20th century and the 21st century thu s far is a man-made disaster as well.    

CC 

If I could have chosen where to live and when it would have been from 1850 to 2000 in Austria and even Russia.    Never in the 20th century and the 21st century thuis far is a man-made disaster as well.    

More freedom in 1920 than 2020?

Did colonialism end in 1919?

I'm not sure people of color would agree with that statement either.

If I went back 100's year in the past, I would be in the middle of a civil war in my country. Russia was in one too, never mind the fact the Spanish flu was still on the go in many countries

Of course modern society is far from perfect with many issues and certain aspects of life have changed and not always for the better, but you really have to have your blinkers on not to acknowledge the enormous strides mankind has made since 1920. The decline in poverty, the improvement in life expectancy, advancement in medical treatment, modern transports and communication infrastructure etc,etc.

Oh and Ceradyne, the EU did not ban dredging!

Slav

I agree in respect of advancement of technology and science and the benefits attached to it - but as you stated it did not mean a better life for all.  

I think back to Vienna in the 1850's when there were enough dance halls to cater for 40% of the Viennese population and everyone of those were packed every night,  One of those dancehalls even had a maternity ward attached to it,    So 40% of the population went dancing  and partying at least every second night.   What enjoyment of life living to its fullest!!!! 

But then as Freud stated once - "Vienna will always be  Vienna - rotten to the core'',                 

Nice to see Boris wiping the floor with these pathetic Remainers and the communist Corbyn. 

Hopefully its heading for a no deal. 

Also great to see Trump facing down the Iranians 

 Winning, winning winning. It's what Trump does!