The Dumb Reason Russia Is Losing The War

Thanks for the above video.   I am always impressed by Russia fleeing in total chaos from Ukraine and the delightful dream of the media of Ukraine occupying Moscow and Russia being dismembered as a country for the benefit of the Woke Culture.  

By the way the US Army is systematically being destroyed by the implementation of Woke Culture and they cannot get recruits from the normal recruit base because preference is given to homosexual, women and race based recruitment.   The US Army has now got less than 50 000 usable troops for warfare and will soon be tackled and obliterated by China in record time under a destructive for Democracy US Presidency.

The other NATO countries are even less usable and the army command in the UK, Germany, Italy, France and the Netherlands know that the US Army Command is in chaos after the Afghanistan debacle and the obvious liaison between the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the US and his counterpart in China.

Are we living in the real world or what?                          

Don' t shoot me, I'm only the messenger

Notice all you pro - Ukrainian gypseys are quiet as Ukraine gets demolished in Bakmut. 

Moonrover

What is really happening in the battle in and around Bakmut?     There is very little in the media on the situation in that battle indicating that the Ukraine forces are collapsing losing between 700 and 1 200 soldiers a day since the start of the war.

The other story we pick up from the media is that to date the USA is not knowing where the arms they provided to Ukraine have gone and are going?    Corruption is the lifeline of the Ukraine President and his cronies,  but equally so amongst the USA political supporters of the War - so only chaos is expected on that score alone.   Where has the FTX money gone?        

Race to get last children out of Bakhmut as city becomes 'hell .....

War breeds euphemism and metaphor. In the battle for the Donbas city of Bakhmut, threatened with a closing encirclement by Russian forces after seven months of bitter fighting, there are “White Angels” and “Dark Angels”, the “road of life” (the Bakhmut-Lysychansk highway, which is anything but) and the “Invincibility Centre”.

The White Angels, a police evacuation group, scour the lethal districts of the shell-ruined city to evacuate children and the elderly.

Their counterparts, the Dark Angels, take out the dead. The Invincibility Centre is where the few thousands of civilians who remain can find water and hot food cooked by the volunteers who have stayed in the city, even as in the past fortnight it has faced an increasing threat of finally being overrun.

In a town to the west of the city, the Observer meets Oleksandra Havrylko, a 30-year-old police major who has recently spent time in Bakhmut and the surrounding villages with the White Angels, trying to persuade those caring for the last few dozen children to let them be evacuated.

It is a search that has led to rumours that police are taking children from parents who refuse to leave, which has prompted some families to hide their sons and daughters, inexplicable as that might seem.

“Unfortunately, it’s true,” she says sadly. “There have been cases of people hiding children because they’ve heard rumours that the police will take their children by force.

And then you have the idiots cheering more weaponry shipped to the warzone to prolong the suffering and escalate the destruction.

As the reasons for the carnage cut
Their meat and lick the gravy
We oil the jaws of the war machine
And feed it with our babies

- Iron Maiden, Two minutes to midnight

Ja Pakie, as Beansht4Brns reminded us, Russia was compelled to invade, it needs to destroy Ukraine to ensure the denazification of this sovereign state.

No he's not, numbnuts, born in Ukraine, lives in Moscow.

He's not what babalaas Blobok?

And the pro - Russian chumps where were  they exactly during the  Russian withdrawal from Kyiv and northern Ukraine, the debacle of the river crossing at Bilohorivka, the Russian rout/withdrawal during the Ukrainian Kharkiv offensive and the Russian withdrawal from Kherson?

Yes Bakhmut will probably be taken by the Russian's soon enough but can you explain to me what is so strategically important about Bakhmut? Care to provide evidence that Ukraine is suffering higher causalities in Bakhmut than Russian is?

*Care to provide evidence that Ukraine is suffering higher causalities in Bakhmut than Russian is?*

You must be talking to Mike. 

Reports say Russians don't have ammo and are using shovels to attack the enemy

Care to verify this?

If they are then it's WW2 for Russia all over again.

Reports say Russians don't have ammo and are using shovels to attack the enemy

Actually I stand partially corrected, the UK MOD is reporting that Russians soldier's are being order to attack entrenched Ukrainian positions with "firearms and shovels". Shovels are common battlefield entrenching tools and have been used in previous conflicts as make shift weapons.

Nothing about Russian's being out of ammo and attacking solely with shovels.

Still various reports on the tactics employed by the Russian's paint a pretty damning picture of the state of the Russian army.

Come on you don't expect anything but made up BS from these fools so you.

If Russia was only using shovels the Ukraine army would be knocking on the Kremlin door.

Then again these morons think since Russia is on God's mission they could be using plastic sporks and ping pong balls and win 

Bakhmut was and has always been a 70% Russian speaking city and the Ukrainians caused flight of that component after the start if the civil war in 2014 and the rest fled in the recent war flare-ups.   If Bakhmut fell the Ukraine army would have to fall back to Kiev.    The next target of Russa will be Odessa - another Russian speaking city where the USA built a biolab and operated it.   By the way there was in 2016 a protest in Ukraine and the Azov Battalion opened fire on the participants - the people fled to the Trade Union hall in Odessa and the Azov Battalion then put the hall on fire and 1 200 people were murdered as a result.    An obvious target for the Russians.

That is what is likely to happen next in Ukraine.   I am against the invasion and war - but the fact is the USA sabotaged peace negotiations and I can only continue to   support peace negotiations as the only solution to the war.             

So the Ukrainians would have to fall back 700km because one city fell?

I am very interested in hearing the reasons for this. I can't wait to hear the reasoning behind this statement. 

Calling more made up fantasy bullshit until you can provide evidence.

So when Kherson fell why didn't the Russians fall back to Moscow if thats the accepted standard in this war?

I suppose they weren't just fighting with shovels at that stage?

The Putinpanzees are the new Trumpanzees.

Always looking for the next big thing leader before replacing "him" with a new one. 

C F 

What evidence do you need - I do not go for media propaganda the way you do.- your only source are lying media reports.    Perhaps I am slightly wrong about the wording - the Ulrainians will retreat towards Kiev and that is a fact as well.  

The Odessa incident was reported to the UN and the Battalion was as a result labeled as a terrorist organization.   The easy solution then was to incorporate the Azov Battalion into  the Ukraine army - so they could get armed assistance from the US Government.     There is no conspiracy theory about the Odessa incident.    It was real fact and happened when the erstwhile dictator of Georgia who fled to Ukraine and was made Governor of Odessa by the Ukraine Government.

I love your conspiracy theory about the major losses of the Russian army.    Kherson was a major offense of the Ukraine army to prove that they are victorious in the war and you fell for the BS.   Ukraine is NOT winning the war and that is for everyone to see - just look at the Ukraine map and where the fighting is taking place.                            

S B

Don't spout total BS on site - you can become part of the BS.     

Ok, from now on everything you post I will understand you didn't post what you meant. 

I am simply asking a question to one of your statements. 

By the way what other direction would they fall back, towards Moscow?

You are just post misinformation left right and centre and expect everyone to be as thick as you and just accept it as fact.

Seriously I am getting a bit sick and tired of calling out your lies you constantly post on here yet being shown up as a liar does not appear to phase you in the slightest you just keep on lying.

Actually surprized you replied this time normally  you just do a Houdini when you get exposed as a liar

We know you don't go for the media, you go for retards hiding in their basements making up complete bullshit, you shown that time and time again.

Who needs facts when when you can make up any old piece of shit you want.

Give it to you retard Mike you have never let a fact stand in your way, got to admire (pity) you for that and the ability to stand proud on your ignorance. 

Keep trying and you might surpass beenshit for the stupidist fuckwit on this forum

Good posts Mike as you clearly have a grasp of the situation. Unlike half-bakes like Blob brain and old crust who are way out of their depth.

I am seeing on You Tube many clips dealing with the fact that the Russians have now got Bakmut surrounded. The Leader of the Wagner Group is offering the Ukrainian soldiers a chance to retreat unharmed out of the city as an act of mercy.

According to McGregor and others Odessa is one of the next strategic goals. Would mean Ukraine becomes landlocked with no port. Odessa again is populated mainly by Russians.

According to McGregor the Russians lose 1 man for every 8 to10 Ukrainians killed.  He estimates rougy 200 odd thousand Ukrainians have been killed and some 4 to 5 hundred casualties. Those are enormous losses. Ukrainian population has dropped down some 37 million to between 18 and 22 million due to people fleeing etc. American losses in the Korean war were 50,000.

The first big mistake old blob brain and poor old crust make is that they think this war started when Russia sent in a SMALL EXPERDITIONARY FORCE of some 150,000 men. At that point Putin thought that would be enough to start peace talks to discuss Russian security concerns. Putin initially appeared to have assessed this correctly when talks between Russia and Ukraine were held and seemed to be bearing fruit according to ex Israeli PM Bennet. But orders came from Washington and Bris Johnston was sent to stop the peace talks.

The second point these two dunces cant grasp is when the war actually started. It started in 2014 when the State Department and CIA engineered a Coup to topple the Russian aligned President. The Minsk Agreement was admitted to be a ploy to buy NATO (USA) time to build up the Ukrainian army which apparently numbered some 650,000 men by the time the war began early last year. The war on the Russians of the Donbass killed some 14,000 people including 500 children. Zelenky's Nazi Asov battalion played a leading role.

Then of course you had the US bio labs, some 46 of them apparently.

The repeated warnings from Russia about moving eastwards were ignored. The Bear was further provoked by suggestions that Ukraine would join NATO. Everything points to this being a NATO instigated war. Its very pleasing to see this is becoming widely acknowledged as huge protest break out in Europe. The peoples of Europe and the USA do not want a war with Russia even if their globalist leaders do.

The Ukrainians have thrown in a lot to hold Bakmut. Now only direct involvement of NATO (USA) troops may be able to stop Russia but given how weak NATO is and how unprepared the USA is for a LAND WAR,  its very doubtful even that could stop Russia.

Had NATO accepted that Ukraine remain neutral and Russian not be treated as second class citizens then all of this would never have happened, Plus of course had Trump not be removed via a COUP  then this war also would not have happened. Trump says he could bring tis war to an end in 24 hours I believe him. It would in any case be very easy to do. 

Keep trying and you might surpass beenshit for the stupidist fuckwit on this forum

LOL the very next post proves that i sn't possible.

Here comes beenshit with his warped views.

One thing we know the complete opposite is true to what this idiot believes. 

Thanks beenshit for showing the world the truth.

Your doing a great job exposing the insanity that some morons swallow.

Keep it up, you stupid twat. You are doing a better job at proving secularism than any of us intelligent ones.

Ole Sad sader stil thinks Ukraine gonna get their land back.... give it up... save some lives... get rid of your Nazi background. 

Bloody hilarious, saying a kiwi is a nazi sympathizer when the Boer militants were open nazis during WW2

It's you lot with the history of being Nazis not us Kiwi's.

Bloody idiots don't even know their own history. Ignorance is certainly bliss to these idiots.

If the British hadn't won the Boer war you lot would have been on the other side kissing Hitlers ass.

Ole Sad Sack Sader

Remember him.... that's you in the army. 

Russia isn't merely winning, they are systematically stripping the West bare. Whilst clowns such as those above perpetuate this nonsense, key NATO members are panicking. Even Macron told Zelensky he needs to start considering negotiations after all his frog-faced chest beating. The writing is on the wall, for anyone who can or will read.  

The re-election of present Governing Parties in the case of future elections seems to be vanishing as the people in the respective countries get tired of neglect of local people and sending off money and other forms of assistance to the most corrupt Government in Europe.   Butr in Ukraine corruption in especially the USA and a desperate effort by the Ukraine upper levels Government representatives  to equal that level of corruption in the USA.   Those elements would love it for the war to last decades.   The longer the more money is laundered to them.       

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Russia isn't merely winning, they are systematically stripping the West bare. Whilst clowns such as those above perpetuate this nonsense, key NATO members are panicking.

CF

The fact is that you brag about a war in which the UK murdered 26 000 women and children in their concentration camps.   They burned down farm homes and killed or stole all animals on farms.     That is the record of the Anglo Boer War.   So keep that out of arguments based on BS.

The fact is that all Afrikaans South Africans hated the English for taking away their families and property leaving them starving and that resulted in more than 30% of the Afrikaans speaking people were left in poverty for the next 30 years.     The Afrikaans population provided the majority of soldiers serving in WW1 and WW2 and in response the English allegedly sabotage the plane their Commanding Officer was flying to SA and the plan fell in lake Tanganyika and was never recovered.   That General was General Pienaar - whose mother and 8 children were held in the Pietermaritzburg Concentration Camp of whom only 3 family members survived.   Pienaar hated the English and treated the English Generals like dirt - he used to say Voertsek General when they gave him instructions to fight because they did not care about how many SA soldiers would die because of their stupidity.      General Pienaar was a cousin of my grandmother.

The Afrikaans people did not admire Hitler - they hated the English more than they hate anybody else.    After the war the SA Government gave England a loan of 80 million pounds delivered in gold and wool to help the English - the loan was never repaid and the SA Government  bought the wool from the farmers at a pitiable price and sent farmers into bankruptcy.   That turned the tables on General Smuts and he lost the election in 1948.   

So you admire murder of innocents in a war started by the English to get hold of the gold mined in the two republics.   And you admire killing of innocents like women and children in a war.    No wonder you like the Ukrainians when they murdered Russian speaking people  in Ukraine.    That is fine according to you.  Sick approach I may say.        

I wasn't bragging I simply stated a fact (The British won) to get across my point.

I am also well aware of what occurred during the Boer war (studied it in High school history quite extensively but that was 40 years ago)

Did not say that all Boers were Nazis but it is common knowledge that SA had a number of Nazis that supported Hitler. I am well aware of SA's contribution to the Allies.

Got to love just because I mentioned it I suddenly admire the murder of the innocent, I have mentioned WW2 multiple times but you haven't accused me of a supporter of the final solution. Why is this? STOP FUCKIN LYING and making up bullshit and stick to the facts.

If you care to reread my post you will notice I mention the Boer Militants (Ossewabrandwag (OB) not every single Boer.

Typical idiot, reads what he wants not what is actually written, 

Fark me have to start calling you Basil "don't mention the war" Fawlty but that would be an insult to Basil,

"If the British hadn't won the Boer war you lot would have been on the other side kissing Hitlers ass."

So the Boer genocide prevented the Afrikaner backing Hitler...noted. What a slap in the face of the Boers who died in WWII fighting for the allies...you do know Jan Smuts was a Boer? Go read up on what Rommel had to say about fighting the South Africans in Nort Africa ....The Yanks had way more Nazi corroborators than the few Ossawa Brandeacht idiots...

That was an uncalled for kick in the face...and wrong on so many levels.

Bollocks Draad, he's simply expressing an opinion.