This answer is pure BS. I have given you historical and other facts repeatedly going back in history to the 13 hundreds
No you go off on historical tangents which are frequently inaccurate and often irrelevant to the topic being discussed, not doubt deliberately as a way of avoiding questions. You claim things as fact but provide no evidence to support the claim.
and there never was an independent country of Ukraine until 1991.
So what...every country came in to assistance at some point in time. Ireland didn't exist till 1921, there never had been an Irish state until that point. All your doing is repeating Russian propaganda that attempts to undermine the existence of the Ukrainian state. Hitler spoke the same way about Poland before he attacked it.
I also indicated that the Communist Regime believed that the Ukrainians betrayed the USSR in WW2
You never said it was what the communist regime believe, your where arguing that point yourself. And its another of example of historical ignorance. Yes there was some collaboration with the Germans in the west of the country at the start of the invasion. It didn't last once the Germans turned out to be so brutal. Far more Ukrainians fought in the Soviet army against the Germans. Hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians where decorated for bravery fighting against the Germans.
That is a FACT as well. I often gave FACTUAL information about
how the Independent State of Ukraine was established in 1991 and made
reference to the Constitution.
Typing fact in capital letters does not make something fact. FACT
The present problems in Ukraine stemmed from the unding and
rganizing the 2014 COUP in Ukraine and referred to a vcideo in which the
then Assistant Secretary of State indicated how the USA decided on who
should be in the Interim Government of Ukraine after the Coup.
Alright Mike, brilliant, here's your chance to prove me wrong and shut me up.Please provide a link to where evidence is providing of the funding and organizing of the 2014 COUP as you call it. I assume this is funding by the US/CIA. Also please provide a link to the video of the assistant secretary of state picking the Interim Government of Ukraine.
Now here's the thing Mike. I don't want a history lesson, I don't need to hear about Russia/Ukraine/Crimea going back to the 13th century. I don't want to hear about the corrupt Democrats unless its specifically in relation the funding and organizing of the coup. I want you to provide evidence to back up those two claims.
Surely there is some evidence like audio recordings or a paper trail for the money.
Whomsoever she suggested got the posts she mentionedHere's the thing you won't be able to post a link to a video because I know what you refer to is actually an audio recording of part of a phone call.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957I already explained this to you in my previous post. Who she referred to was the leader of the main opposition party in Ukraine at the time and always the most likely man to take over once Yanukovych was toppled from power, not someone the American's plucked out of thin air. Its not a case of her choosing anyone, its merely a discussion on who they think is the person bested suited to take over out of the 3 main opposition leaders and Yatseniuk was the guy they thought best suited due to his previous economic and government experience.
You ignore the reasons for breaking out of the Civil War in Ukraine
and the fact that the Crimea had its own Parliament as provided for in
the 1991 Constitution and that Parliament had to deal with the situation
where the total discarding of the 1991 Constitution as a result of the
2014 Coup left a void insofar as the Crimea is concerned.
When did I ignore them?
the resultant decision of the Crimea Parlaiment and referendum was without any proof on your part was illegitimate
Of course it was illegitimate, Russia had illegally seized Crimea and then ran a referendum with their military present. Its farcical to suggest the referendum was legitimate.
I mentioned the factual issue of the banning of using and teaching of Russin in schools in Ukraine
No you misrepresented that.
- the arrest of the Russian speaking members of the Ukraine Parliament - FACTS as well
Another misrepresentation, Zelenskyy himself was primarily a Russian speaker before the war. Many of the current Ukrainian government can also speak Russia. Yes opposition members have indeed been arrested but they where arrested due to their ties to Russia. Now I doubt the if the arrests have merit in each case. But I do no its being done under the rather extreme circumstance of Ukraine being invaded by Russia and no doubt done due to fears these people might work with the invading Russians. You our course conveniently leave out the context of the arrests.
and the general oppression of the 32% Russian speaking citizens living in Ukraine.
They where not being oppressed. Yes there was some unhappiness over Ukrainian language laws, but that's a far cry from warranty an invasion from Russia, and invasion which has killed thousands of Russian speakers. And again you leave out the context of the Ukrainian language laws being a partial by product of Russian stealing Ukrainian territory back in 2014.
I dealt with the 2015 Minsk Agreement on a cease-fire and how the
unconstitutional Regime in Ukraine could be legitimized through a new
Constitution for the country.
Minsk was always a flawed solution, open to different interpretations by both sides. Its 100% dead now anyway thanks to the Russian invasion.
WHAT DID YOU CAME UP WITH - newspaper reports from the propaganda
reports in Ukraine and now a remark made by an ex-President of Russia
that dealt in the main by the effort to somehow get rid of Putin as
President of Russia and made comments on the historical facts about the
existence of Ukraine as a country in Europe ever since the fall of Kiev
to the Mongolian Golden Hoard in the 13 hundreds.
Irrelevant. Ukraine has every right to exist as a sovereign nation as it has done since 1991.
The rest of your post is just rehash of the some nonsense you have posted for years.